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it's not very often I actually cover 3D
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printing accessories but this was one I
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was excited about from the moment I saw
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it and it was over a year ago now I did
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a video talking about the best features
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that I'd love to see in resin printers
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after all since we've pretty much peaked
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on print quality I think now it's mostly
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down to software and convenience
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features where I expect to see
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improvements going forward and when it
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comes to convenience features I actually
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supposed and hoped for a future where a
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company would find a way to make the
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process of replacing release films much
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easier than it is well that day is here
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and not from any specific printer brand
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but from chitu systems who are the guys
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who make chitubox slicer along with some
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of the controller components that go
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into many modern printers the hoop
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product line is just as good as its name
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is stupid so let's have a look at it hi
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I'm Ross and this is fmer videos so yeah
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first up this is a Daft sounding name
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right hoat hoat hoop it's I can only
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imagine this was conceived from the
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metal hoop blch mechanism and the fact
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that it's a vat hoop vat hoop hat yeah I
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can't really critique it that much if I
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was in charge of marketing I'd have
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called it vatti mbat face but regardless
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of its silly name it does exactly what
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we'd all want it to if you've been
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around resin printing for a while you'll
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likely understand the annoyance of
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having to change a release film
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unscrewing the frame from the base of
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the vat unscrewing the bolts from each
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side of the frame placing the new
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release film in having tock Pierce every
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single screw hole as you sequentially
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reinstall each bolt then trim the edge
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and even just having a proper idea of
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knowing how tight the film should be
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it's an arduous process that I know for
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many home users delay on next print to a
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time after we can be asked to actually
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do it now on the website for The Hoop
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hat God I hate saying that name it tell
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me I'm wrong it just sounds so
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ridiculously stupid anyway on the
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website for this thing they say it's a
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20 minute process cut down to 30 seconds
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but honestly that's a level of hyperbole
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even I wouldn't be comfortable with when
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I'm creating a clickbait thumbnail let's
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be honest when it comes to changing
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these films we also need to clean out
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the vat as best we can before we begin
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and we need a decent surface to do the
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job on to prevent the new film from
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getting all scratched up before we even
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use it now I'm sure with practice maybe
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in a print Farm where you have multiple
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printers and you're doing this over and
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over maybe daily the normal process of
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changing a film could be as low as 20
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minutes but be honest for anybody
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watching who has done this already how
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long does it take you because I'd be
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more comfortable saying that this takes
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the best part of an hour if not longer
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and the claim of this new vat taking 30
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seconds well that's just as unrealistic
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it took me longer than that just to peel
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off the backing film but we can all rest
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assured that yeah this is still a much
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faster process because of all of the
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laborious unscrewing and rescrew that we
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no longer have to do with this once
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you've got a clean-ish vat it's a simple
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case of unlatching the Hoops on each
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side of the plate removing a retaining
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frame and peeling out the old release
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film the new film is then put in its
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place and easily Guided by the teeth in
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this Frame now it wasn't clear to me in
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the instructions if I should remove the
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clear backing sheet before or after
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getting this in place but I think I
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found it much easier to remove it after
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it kept everything more rigid until I
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got it in the right place but once this
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is done you just put that frame back
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into the bottom of the Val bring the
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Hoops over the frame and then retighten
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the latches in order to fully tension
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the release film honestly this whole
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process is an absolute Breeze and
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something I think we all want to see on
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all 3D printers going forward and as a
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bonus feature it even has one of the
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best porw spouts I've ever seen so if
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you've been watching a while you know
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that shitty porw spouts are a pet peeve
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of mine this proves it can be done
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better so what's the catch well it's not
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the cheapest accessory at 7 to $75 on
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release depending on which printer you
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use it's about $20 more than the cost of
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a normal eligo vat but over double the
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cost of an any cubic bat though these
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are at least metal but once you've got
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it you can get three ACF or PFA films
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which will cost you $30 when you buy
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them separately or only 20 when it's
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bundled with the vat and at $10 or less
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per film that's still pretty comparable
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to decently branded films without the
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pre-cut holes now I do have a small
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concern that these prices could increase
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later down the line but it is only a
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small concern and to be honest I've only
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really brought it up to cover my ass in
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this video in case that eventually
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happens the one I used is the hoat X4
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which is the model made for the satin 4
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series of printers all of them the satin
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4 the satin 4 ultra and the Saturn 4
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ultra 16k or Plus or whatever you want
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to call it the the new one there's also
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the X3 which is for the satin 2 and
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satin 3 printers also still great
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printers if you can find them and the X5
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is for the ne cubic M5 series which is
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not a range of machines I personally
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loved but I am also surprised to see
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that there's currently no option for the
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M7 series which are honestly some of the
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best printers any cubic have ever made
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however as I said mine was for the satin
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4 Series which I used in my satin 4
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ultra plus the name I'm giving the 16k
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version of that printer because it's
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better it's also not satin M sattin face
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the drawback for me is that now lost the
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heated VAP functionality of that printer
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which yeah gives me a sad face because I
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bloody love having a heated VAP now
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before I conclude speaking of the satin
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4 ultra either of them one of the things
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I moaned about in both of my reviews was
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the lack of a monitoring app considering
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they have Wi-Fi the only function is
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using chitu box to see what the
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printer's doing and if you sat at your
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computer then you can probably check
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your printer but I was recently
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contacted by a guy called Pedro Martinez
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who's actually created created an IOS
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app for us specifically for this purpose
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whilst this only works on your local
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network meaning you can't check it
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outside of your house there's no out of
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home monitoring it is still a handy way
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to check in on your prints without being
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in the same room if you do use a mobile
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slicer like Pica slice which to be
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honest I don't know when that was last
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updated and I don't know if it's even
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compatible with satin 4S but you can
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also send prints remotely to the printer
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too potentially from your phone along
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with monit in and cleaning up the
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internal storage you can also take a
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snapshot and see what's actually
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happening to your print using the camera
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in the printer so yeah since this is a
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short video I just wanted to take a
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chance to shout out an awesome app made
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by a Community member which could be
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very handy for some satin Ultra users as
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for the Hoopa God still can't get over
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that name as for this new vat by chitu
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systems yeah I think it's solid it's
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easily the best resin print of that I've
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ever seen now yeah if you get this you
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are pretty much tied into chitu systems
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release films going forward I suppose
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you could manually cut the holes in your
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own films to save a bit of money but the
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whole point of this is to pay the extra
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money for the convenience you get from
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it so yeah don't see much benefit there
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anyway I probably won't use it for the
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satin Ultra 16k because the heated vat
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just has more value to me but I do hope
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that one day we could find a blend
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between the two if not by chitu systems
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I would at least hope Brands will look
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at this product as something they could
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add to their machines by default maybe
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they should add it yes that would also
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mean we're essentially tied into the
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films that they sell but so long as the
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reasonable this would be a benefit for
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everybody this is the first time in
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probably a whole year now of reviewing
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printers that I've actually seen some
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serious convenience progress so I guess
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thanks chitsu systems please don't screw
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us over on release film price I want to
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