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I think there's no real argument in the
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resin printer space right I mean elu are
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owning it right now with so many choices
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of printer size available all solidly
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built around a consistent solid design
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language and all coming in at
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competitive prices why would you not
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choose an eligo printer as your next or
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maybe even your first machine but which
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eligo should you pick and should it be
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this one well that's the point of this
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video and by the end you'll know why you
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should or perhaps more accurately why
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you shouldn't pick the satin 4 but I
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think that mostly depends on when you're
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watching this video hi I'm Ross and this
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is f Hammer videos so yeah look the
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satin 4 does leave me scratching my head
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a little bit it's a great printer don't
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get me wrong I'm about to say a ton of
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good things about it but by the end of
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this like me you'll probably be
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wondering why it even exists this is a
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10-in printer with a 12K display just
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like the satin 3 I'm going to say that a
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lot now I've said in my satin 4 ultra
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video by the way go and watch that video
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and buy that one because it's well worth
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the extra money and then some but as I
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said I think it's smart that eligo have
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stuck with 12K screens in this
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generation of printers because as we've
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proven 14k displays offer no print
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quality benefit at all but they cost
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more so here you get the same print
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quality as any 14k printer for less
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money but this also means you get the
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same print quality as the satin 3 but
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that one's red and this one's green and
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and this may be a hot take but I love
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the green lid I love it so much that I
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wish the satin 5 Ultra had this color
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lid instead am I wrong let me know in
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the comments but I think it's just
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subjective I do like the style of these
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printers the Angles and the stripes give
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it a modern techie Vibe though oddly I
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don't think I'm alone in this the lid
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itself has a minor stress crack on the
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base I've seen a few few people with
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this and it's it's not great but
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regardless it's not really going to
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cause a problem it's just slightly
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unsightly and I love an up and over lid
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it means I can open this machine up
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one-handed and not have to find
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somewhere in my room to put a massive
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lid every time I need to access my
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prints and it's worth noting that just
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like the satin 4 ultra you're going to
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need some extra height and extra depth
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on your workspace just so you can fully
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open this lid IO wise this printer has
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an external power transformer which
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plugs into a socket on the back right
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side of the printer Above This is the
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rocker power switch and then above that
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is the USB port which is just the worst
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most awkward place to put a USB port on
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a printer unless you're counting the
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back the placement is pretty much the
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same as the satin 3 in regard to all the
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sockets and switches but this printer
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has no front power switch and I guess
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that's to keep the costs down a little
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but since there's no Wi-fi function in
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this machine the USB placement is a mild
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annoyance inside we have a not 12K 12K
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screen if you're a total beginner please
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watch my 12K printers are a relevant
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video for more info on this but skip to
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about 7 Minutes in cuz the beginning's
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just a lot of waffling from me yes I
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heard the feedback on that video guys
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sorry for the rest of you this is a
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printer with an AVC of 24 microns build
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volume is 219 by 123 mm with 220 mm
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height that's the same as the satin 4
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ultra but 3 and 4 cm Less in height than
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the satin 3 and satin 3 Ultra
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respectively that loss in height between
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Generations is probably due to this new
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two-tiered build plate and this serves
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the function of Auto leveling but it's
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not Auto leveling though all the brands
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are calling similar systems Auto
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leveling so don't blame elu too much for
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just following soup all this really is
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is a series of struts on the bill plate
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which are spring-loaded in the upper
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housing but if the bed isn't parallel to
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the screen when the plate presses down
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the Lower Side will compress and push up
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the Springs so it is level but it
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doesn't then lock itself in this new
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parallel position because as soon as the
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bed lifts again the Springs will release
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that tension and the bed will go back to
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the same off-kilter position that it was
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in before if yours is unlevel you can
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adjust it geek detour have done a
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fantastic video showing how you'll
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basically need to press the plate down
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on some paper on top of the screen then
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loosen the four inner screws slightly
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until the bed is even Mark the position
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and add some locktite then quickly put
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them back to the mark position so whilst
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it doesn't have Auto leveling per se
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what it does have in the actual Zed arm
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is pressure detection so it can sense
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when the plate presses on the resin
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before a print and from that determines
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if you have enough for the print or in
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my case it told me my resin was above
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the max fill line and it would not allow
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me to continue until I siphon some off I
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mean in my case it was only slightly
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over and it would have been fine but I
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guess this is a useful safety feature I
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just wish I had a larger syringe laying
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around rather than these tiny 5ml pipets
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now the bill plate surface here itself
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is absolutely lovely it's the same laser
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edch design they've used for a while now
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and most of the top brands are doing the
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exact same thing the first time I saw
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this was on the Frozen Mighty 8K and I
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love it so Props to Frozen for giving us
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that one first and thanks everyone for
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copying that design don't know who came
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up with it but I love it it's great
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though I have seen a few people online
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with not just this one but similar star
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build plates saying it's too hard and
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they can't get the prints off without
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chiseling it if that's the case then
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it's probably either that your base or
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bottom layer exposure times are too high
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or your temperatur is too cold which
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could also explain why your bottom or
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base exposure times are too high because
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you're having to increase it to
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compensate with the low temperature try
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and keep your printers above 20° guys
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this one doesn't have a heater but elegu
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are releasing a heater add-on which
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attaches to the extractor hole on the
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back of your printer and elu have been
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putting these extractor holes on their
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printers for a while now to connect to
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the Mars mate I'm not a big fan of that
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but it's nice that theyve found another
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use for it and it's a good consistent
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design element that they've kept in
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their Machines of late anyway something
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that I like many other people don't love
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is this gap between the upper and lower
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parts of the build plate after a print
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resin is trapped on top of the actual
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build surface so you either need to wait
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a few hours for this to minimize or
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awkwardly scrape it off you can ignore
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it but it's going to drip everywhere and
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just like the satin 4 ultra there isn't
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much grip on the top of this build plate
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either in fact there's no grip on the
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part that connects to The Zed arm these
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are slippery and worse when your gloves
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are a bit resin soaked but I've got to
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say I do love that it connects to the
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arm with a compression latch this is
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much more convenient than a bolt and
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then we've got the vat now I'd prefer
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this to be larger honestly reality did
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one thing right in the Mage s by giving
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us a vat which could hold one liter of
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resin and that just makes sense right
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most resin bottles come in one liter
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capacity it would be great to have a vat
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which holds a liter and then has notches
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up the side showing us 250 mil
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increments so we've got a visual
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representation of remaining quantity
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relative to the bottle volumes that
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we're all aware of and all have the vat
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also has spouts on opposite corners and
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these are an odd shape in the the their
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round why can't brand just make normal
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spouts this is everyone it's not just
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elu the one good one I've seen is on the
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ha gears ultracraft reflex but I doubt
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you're going to buy that just because
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it's got a better spout oh wait no I
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tell a lie I have seen good spouts on
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every Kettle I've ever used ever sorry
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guys but if I had one primary B in my
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Bonet over the last generation of
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printers it was the resolution and how
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that made no sense oh how far we've come
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that my main annoyance now is the spouts
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well it's not it's the actual lack of
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smart software feature res in res
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printers or bamboo like functionality
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but you know until we get anywhere near
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that these spouts are all crap anyway
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another good thing this printer uses
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Crystal Clear release film which keeps
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your print sharp just like the Saturn 3
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but unlike the satin 3 this machine now
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boasts a new UI it's in portrait
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orientation not horizontal and it's nice
8:29
that have tried something different but
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the more I use this and the more I look
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at it the more I just don't like it
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sorry and that's especially true on this
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one unlike the ultra where it's not easy
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to see useful details like remaining
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print time from across the room and
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unlike the ultra this mid print display
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screen doesn't switch over to a larger
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progress wheel after a short timeout it
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just stays with this tiny info on the
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screen for the entire print GH but if it
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matters to you I mean it matters to me
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slightly I've been asking for it for a
8:59
while the UI is more of a visual upgrade
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over the Saturn 3 in that it looks a bit
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sexier and now you can also edit a few
9:08
print settings directly from the machine
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itself if this would be useful to you
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for example should a print fail and you
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know that you just need to up the
9:17
exposure a couple of tenths of a second
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you can now do this from the UI as the
9:22
print starts rather than having to
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reslice the whole file so it is Handy
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and as for print quality this print is
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amazing the flat exposure test alone
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shows that it's right up there with the
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current best of the best and sharpest of
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the sharpest I also printed these
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vampire models from loot Studio Scarlet
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requium set and I did that to show that
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they've got 32 mm 75 mm and bust models
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and this is just one of the characters
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from the dozen or so you get in each
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monthly set along with various terrain
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and large prop likee models I also
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printed some models from their latest
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sci-fi bundle which is steampunk based
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and if I've timed it right these models
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which are this Paladin Guardsman and
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this Iron Man looking Mecca steampunk
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dude should be available this week and
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that last one was printed cuz I'm
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testing how to make glass clear resin on
10:11
my Miniatures so subscribe because that
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linked down in the description but
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overall this printer is a great machine
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just like the satin 3 now it misses out
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on some of the features of its bigger
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brother which I'll cover more in a
10:44
direct comparison video of the two
10:45
machines but right now this is a solid
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printer and a steel of a price and one
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I'd easily recommend over either of the
10:52
Mars five printers just for the
10:55
convenience of its print size 10 in
10:57
really is The Sweet Spot at least when
10:59
when it comes to 3D printers anyway
11:01
right babe babe oh she left so yeah if
11:05
you buy this be happy with it but if you
11:07
haven't bought it already maybe check
11:09
out the prices of the satin 3 right now
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as I record this they're about the same
11:14
price but if you check it later in the
11:17
year or towards Christmas there might be
11:19
a huge discount by the time you're
11:21
looking to actually make your purchase
11:23
so they kind of do the same thing you
11:27
could save yourself a lot of money but
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if you are looking at this and you're
11:30
serious then definitely definitely
11:32
consider the satin 4 ultra because the
11:34
price increase is more than worth it for
11:36
the extra features and speed it offers
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so please check out my review video on
11:41
that printer for more details now as I
11:43
said I'm already planning to do a video
11:45
comparing the satin 4 to the ultra but
11:47
do you also want a video comparing the
11:49
satin 4S to the satin 3s let me know in
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