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we just need to start it okay yeah right then should we get going yeah hello I'm
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Jeff hello I'm Patrick this ah this is bad that's there
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go go all right see you some some dog noises in the
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background for our uh Chompy Chomp noises for people to enjoy H how are you
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you all right I'm all right thank you I'm all right yes um what have I been up
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to since I was last here started painting uh some uh arites oh lovely no more I'm
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afraid no now you're just on Camp for no reason oh a reason no she doesn't need a
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reason that's true um yeah so start painting painting some Arbiters arbites
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aretes bees is that the correct I I never know yeah yeah so started painting
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them I was really struggling to figure out how to make them look something interesting okay so um went with what's
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the official like every mail scheme black and gold black black with one gold
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shoulder pad and a white stripe up the top of the helmet okay and that's it
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they're quite they're quite muted and their UND suit is like a very very very dark gray yeah yeah or it might even be
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black but then just highlighted up with Grays yeah so and I thought I wanted to
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do them initially I thought let's go Bonkers on them yeah and um and I thought maybe do that and and so I
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sprayed one like a sort of space Wolf Gray I bought a color Forge can oh yeah and I thought let's try something a bit
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different cheaper and you get more and yeah hasht notsponsored um I I love I
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love col bra oh they're really good if you if you um not unavailable in the US
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I believe really I think so they haven't quite quite branched out into uh I think
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we can get them in Europe now but haven't they don't have the distribution for the US yet oh that's a bit of a
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shame because you know having now uh having now having been to lvo I like to think we've got some American Brothers
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we've got you know know plenty of you already watch the show and you know we've met you know I'm going to say all
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of you by any imagin we' met a few of you maybe we did maybe we did meet of you yeah we met all of our
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uses possibly but yeah cuz it's uh something like an extra 250 Miller Paint
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yeah and for my Reckoning roughly around about 1502 pound cheaper yeah and to be fair
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to them they've got a really good um they've got a really good comparison's
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chart so they show you what paints they're sit next to for Games Workshop color match to GW and they also tell you
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what is the nearest paints for them as well for Vallejo oh really yeah yeah I've seen one that was covered at least two or
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more it might have even been three and I can't remember what the third one was so yeah so the the color I bought was the
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Fang if we're talking Games Workshop oh fantastic it's really interesting with something's just popped into my head um
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paint Drama Oh go on love a pain drama but not really is when we're at lvo people were
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were chatting and that about you know GW sits as the biggest or they sell the
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most miniature paint yes and army painter apparently now number two oh
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right okay um and it's it's it's fascinating chatting to people and seeing why and this that and the other
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so I know Army painter they've really send you um fanatic paint um which seems
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to be having like a good reputation but there people were saying one of the really good things about Army
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painter is their distribution is awesome like yes the good thing about Army painter is it's everywhere yeah and GW
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it's everywhere absolutely um Veo I think is how Google tells me to
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pronounce it because I don't I don't want to um I can't not throw the L's in I'm it's
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valo but but then you don't say Pella do you you say paa is Ito anyway yes do you
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know let us our European European YouTubers seem to always get it right I've noticed yeah yeah um
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is the paint brand that begins with the V yes um well done yeah yeah can't get
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that wrong um is someone AG go it's a silent [Laughter]
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V they it's they're quite hard to buy at the minute their distribution is is not
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quite as good as it used us to be so apparently AK are eating away at their sales ah um so AK their Countryman if I
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remember rightly yeah CU they're both Spanish aren't they and their naming conventions are very similar yeah so
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it's not a big step to go oh well I wanted that one but here's a different
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brand but it's the same name m I'll get that one instead and it's it's Madness
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isn't it because you think and you know and and you know like um my friend Byron
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uh one half of element games you know they they stock everything under the Sun
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but you know you go into the notingham branch and um and AK of a really big
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dent in his shop how much of it there is you know there's plenty over and from
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from chatting to again like this is something I didn't really what people know if they've
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watched the podcast for a while like I love behind the scenes stuff I love how things work and chatting to Sergio blueh
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hair Sergio yes um who works in a hobby store in in the US does they won't stock
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AK because the range is so big yeah and you think well what's what's the issue with that and it's like well we only
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have so much floor space and then you have to buy like the rack that the paint comes on um so that actually puts people
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off stocking it because it just takes so much physical space well didn't um wasn't this a thing when we were in lvo
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that um that Byron actually approached AK and said I think you need to ruce
6:34
some of your range I admire his brutal honesty yeah well he always do you know what I he is if you've if you've not had
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the pleasure of meeting Byron um and and it you don't see it quite as much with
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his videos you do see it to some degree with the arst Opus videos which are exceptionally good but um he's the
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nicest brutally honest man I think I've ever met yeah he literally is he literally is really really genuinely a
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charming and quite un assuming chap while being utterly brutally honest about everything yeah and and you know
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and I think for a man who you know put some pennies in his bank in his bank
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account selling AK paints seems to be quite good to go try to say to can you
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make less of them yeah yeah and I think it might be want some floor space back maybe yeah maybe yeah yeah but I that
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was something that didn't even didn't even cross my mind mind um but yeah like your your hobby where where people's
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hobby dollars go um if if you think you'd be like right I really want to buy
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this and you like valo to me I always thought of as as kind of like the number two MH paint it was like oh you have
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your GW paints well they were for me yeah if you want something a bit different or in a dropper bottle or or
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maybe it's a bit more advanced regardless of whether it is or it isn't like I think that was the perception that I had um um
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and come on brain function um that's now
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if their distribution like isn't incredible like you physically can't buy it then you know someone else might have
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worse paints I'm not like but then go like sell way more just because they're
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available um well you know and the thing is is like um you know I don't know how
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what your local Friendly Gaming store is like but ours being our local one being
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element is I'm hard pushed to go in there and then not sell everything that I'm after
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yeah you know they sell all of the AK range and they have everything for me they have everything for ammo I I went
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in there recently and uh oh I was going to edit to myself to dramatic effect but
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I accidentally cut te um we'll try again we'll try again go oh dog oh oh there's
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someone outside um Beller and guard dog mode Bella o
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o no no no no one there food yes oh um I'll sh up for food
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yeah bit like yourself to be [Laughter] honest so um I went into El the games
9:15
recently and I was searching for Tamia flat white and I I couldn't find it oh do they not hold the Tamia range they do
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oh right but um not all of it I think they they had like a little shelf on on
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like did they have Tam flat white but cter painter coming in B all of it yeah probably yeah yeah it's like the cter
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paint effect I think I've yeah and oh that's something I want to talk about in a minute as well
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first purchase of a website or domain yes but then I went to Hobbycraft
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cuz I remember that they have yeah I was I was just supposed to recommend Hobbycraft to The Tam
11:30
like with the air fixes and the Tam like model kits and stuff like that and they had all of the paints and I was like
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flat white flat white flat white out of stock no so that was out of stock as well and if you go on to Amazon it's £6
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whereas if you get it anywhere else is to oh that's that's blatantly Blum and supply and demand that workers so that
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was really sad but yes I had my I I did get some um some flat white yeah which I
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was in incredibly happy about and and the funniest thing was um like GW they
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they say it's non-toxic you know you could put this in your coffee as I think
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like mid Min has done a video or something like that um the Tamia thinner
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like you look at the warning label and it's just like probably don't be in the same room like put glasses on don't
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sniff it and and like the paints smell lethal I mean I mean the label was like
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don't do this don't do this I'm like it's like smelling salts or
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something along those lines um but but yeah I think you could probably paint
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something with Tamia paint could you not paint again for another year and soone coming and go have you been using paint yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um yeah my um
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my girlfriend came in here recently for the first time in a while and she was like smells really chemically I thought I'm going to open a window
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yeah um but yeah I've been I've been as people known as you do been messing about with an airbrush a bit more
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frequently recently and I had an issue with using inks yes and where I used the
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used the a white ink to do a zenial um and I used the AK one and just got loads
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of like tip drying and and wasn't really getting on with it but I probably didn't thin it enough um cuz you're like IGS
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it's it's it's not paint it's ink it's so liquidy shoot it through an airbrush and and yeah
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at the end of it there's so many euphemisms in airbrushing and my tip was quite dry um
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so I swapped it using a liquitex ink yeah and that worked a treat yes GES
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through the airbrush and it was amazing but and then I sprayed a yellow contrast
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over it yeah but then when I went in for transfers um well I I put like a gloss
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varnish over it went in with a transfer and everything just like melted melted the way it didn't remember it right back
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to the gray wasn't it yeah right back down to the plastic um and I was like oh that's unpleasant you've in andly
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accidentally created your own paint stripper you need to bottle it sell
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it yeah be like here's white in um yeah
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and but a few people in the comments of that video said oh you the issue will be with the inks you have to leave them 24
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hours let them cure and then you'll generally have a better experience with
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them and then I had two marines that I i' prime black did a white zenithal over
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the top with an airbrush with the ink and I'd left them for like three days
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and then I was doing a test model um for like an upcoming
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video and I was painting on dark Angel's green contrast paint and it was still
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reactivated no really I was like this is so annoying um and then this is when
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when I went on my quest to find a flat Tammy a flat white cuz C paint Rave about it and then anyone that I've ever
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spoken to it's like a secret club like you go have you ever used tmy FL white and they go oh my God it's amazing so
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good through an airbrush um and yeah got got a hold of some paid an extortionate
15:17
amount of money uh on Amazon and it's amazing it's it's incredible and it
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doesn't reactivate so I'm going to go I know that it's my
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somehow um because it usually always is um but I'm I'm going to you know I love
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I love standing uh I love having really hard opinions on things that don't matter um like you know like biscuits
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and all that kind of thing so I'm I'm going to be in inks a stupid Club um
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that's going to be the hill that I'm going to die on in a crap I use the um I use an FW um Inc and um it's so
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brilliantly white it's almost like the white highlight for white you know it's it's it's you know it's so really full
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on so I generally if I'm doing a lot of things with white I generally don't use it but if I just want to if you know if
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I say like I really want a red to really punch I'll put a I'll put the ink on as
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a as a as a highlight and then put the red over the top of that cuz it'll really it'll really force a a very
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bright highlight through it cuz it's it's really really really brilliantly white and um cuz I've always been if I'm
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not using that and I want a very strong white white and a pro acol guy yeah you
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know cuz the B Titanium I think is a really really good paint but um yeah I found as well cuz um back to the man
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himself Byron uh a little while ago gift us a load of paints from different ranges yeah lot of scale 75 and I found
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that some some of them don't like being on top of paint some other rangers at
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all within a minute they get on them they just oh interesting they just fall to bits with each other they something
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going on between scale 75 and I can't remember what I put it over the top of
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but a minute I put it over the top of it it just wasn't happy at all and I've had it with and I don't think it's it's
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probably not a problem if you're using proac rol um they're like equivalent of
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like contrast yeah with only proac I would imagine you find but i p a bro a pro pro acol Brown over something and it
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didn't like what was underneath it either and it just went it started to become like well it became like slime
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literally it just really some like reactivation yeah so it wasn't it wasn't happy you know and I
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think Tim foil hat time well no I don't know I don't know I think it's I think it's just I don't you know it's not done
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it's not done on purpose but I think you know yes it is yeah yeah I'm clever
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clever Americans and their reactivation on purpose systems but no I think it's just you know obviously Army painters
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Dutch Scandinavian aren't they are they Danish or are something up there might
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be from up the cold part of the world up there but um yeah so I don't think it's
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I don't think it's I think it's just obviously everyone's running a slightly different chemical compound and then you
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know cuz you obviously you are designing It ultimately to work within your own range aren't you yes and then you know
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the manyi start you know to use Ghostbusters crossing the streams it all can all go a bit yeah can all be fall
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over you know but um so here's a question like should you just stick to
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one paint range so I think the answer is obviously no no yeah um because like you
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say but I think I think as well safety I think it's not a bad idea but I hear so
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much about scale 75 decayed metal yes is it decay or decayed gold it is and it's
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kind of like that brownie sort of metallic and I nothing but great things I've seen a couple paint guys use it
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it's been recommended from his um I think it was Zach from faith and Dam Zack from Faith examination Facebook
19:08
group they he recommends that he was a big fan was the first the first chap to to say use this it's great um so it's
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kind of like it's interesting using it like um you kind of almost like layering
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so instead of going metal wash metal highlight you build it up from your base
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so you have all of those dark colors I think that's one of my issues with the AK range I don't think there's enough
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metallics it's funny isn't it for a range that has got Byron going maybe you want to cut that back you know maybe cut
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bit back but can we have a a bit more in the metallic side of things I think the thing is to some degree with um AK and
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metallics is maybe because I think although we're probably becoming
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more their main user we're not who AK really would designed themselves around
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I they design themselves around the um the military diarama gang yeah very much
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so and think you know probably in second world war there probably wasn't a lot of requirements to paint anything gold if
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you're doing a second world war diarama you know yeah unless unless obviously you're doing that bit with the the the
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the Nazis are carrying the Ark of the Covenant but other than that there probably isn't a lot of require to P in Gold making Indiana Jones yeah so I
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think do know and I think you know and you know and to be fair they their dark
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Metals aren't bad yeah which again sort of Le cuz they have they have gunmal yes
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and a bunch of silvers do they have like an oily steel they have oily steel which is like iron hand steel which is still
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brighter than like they don't have like a lead beler no or like iron Warriors
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there's no none of those darker sort of like Browner Metals yeah you're right um
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I think so here's a question if we could make like and like looking at the way people go so like AK is very much geared
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towards historical War Gamers yes uh as as you've said I fully agree with that
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because you have like your wine red and you also have brick red and dirty red and they're all similarish those
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potentially could be go down into one paint that just goes
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you know it's it's like corn red you know which I think GW do quite well it's like theist and red what do you want to
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shade that with corn red done yeah AK you could pick from three and you could go what exact tone would I like um but
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he said I wonder with AK is whether it was thing go we need to do that red because in the second world war
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somewhere in France all post boxes were that color you know what I mean or in the Netherlands post boxes were slightly
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a different shade of red you know and what if you want to paint bricks and a bottle of wine in the same diarama you
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know that if like if you're making let's invade France well there's bricks in France and there's wine in France um
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like let's paint that um it's all I know for a France bricks and bricks and wine bricks and wine yeah where's where's
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like Brie white yeah um sort your [ __ ] out AKA
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um so so my my I'm just like the idea now of an entire paint range only based
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around drink and colors of food for all different [Laughter]
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[Laughter] [Music]
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[Laughter]
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in my opinion I think are the the best yeah um I know pril um like bald
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titanium white everyone talks about that their metallics are great and that yes their metallics are absolutely fantastic
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and they're one of the few people out there who do a metallic medium yes yeah yeah yeah um so AKA I think my they
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their paints are exceptional they were designed for for miniature painters in more of the historical sort of sort of
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lean I guess but I guess like ourselves and and plenty of others have gone this
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is great for tabletop War gaming yeah I think the system of which which is
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partially the reason why in my opinion I keep throwing that in there because I'm more than happy to be to be wrong you
24:15
can't be wrong on paint it's such a it's such a personal thing subjective don't you absolutely um I think part of the
24:22
reason GW and army painter are the most successful is because their systems are
24:27
really really EX ible yeah and they have color match sprays to paints whereas if
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you were just in the AK system they have a gold spray yeah that doesn't match any
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of the golds in their range in in the the third gen acrylic range they also
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have dual XO paints which are kind of like colored primers essentially that
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you can use through an airbrush they don't match those colors either they're everything is slightly different so you
25:01
have all of those Reds all your wine Reds and brick Reds and dirty Reds and blood red and this that and the other
25:08
but you have in the spray which is in their like gaming range that's vampire red but you can't I don't think you can
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buy vampire red in a bottle so you're kind of having to yeah mix and match
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your way around match and all that sort of stuff so if you're an airbrush user but then again that's a bit trickier cuz
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AK don't have the most amazing reputation in the world for going through an airbrush yes well as you
25:33
found out recently because they're mega mega matte I think um so if say like GW for example like if
25:41
you're an airbrush user any anything like you prime it black and then or or whatever and then go oh but I want the
25:48
Basse to be doall brown thin it down Chuck it through an airbrush done and you know let's not let's not forget with
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games workshops you don't get a lot of mention allot the time but they do they do a paint as well yeah yeah they do I always buy um cause uh painting up these
26:03
marines I do um that I use a lot of uh calaban green yeah so I always buy it in
26:10
the air a it's a bigger bottle yeah and also when it comes to thinning it I don't have to spend as much time messing
26:16
about with it because it's already partially that thinned out anyway and I've got to be honest there are certain
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paints that like my fist on I always buy my fist on in there because I know I'll use
26:27
a load of it cuz it's the inside of cloak color is red so so I always know I'll be putting that on in big
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SES so I I always buy it in the air as well so Games Workshop have they do
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don't get wrong it's not their entire range but they do a fair about of it yeah and um but you're right though from
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from the little I understand I don't hear many people quibble and say thin and Games Workshop down and sticking
26:51
through and airbrushes a bind it seems to work relatively well and and I think I think to be fair to AK like you
26:56
absolutely can um shove shove AK paints through an airbrush and I've seen it
27:03
done but then I've also seen those people that have done that say they don't go amazingly well through an
27:08
airbrush but I'm just doing this one miniature so it's fine um but then an airbrush is you know an intimidating
27:15
piece of Kit and it's something else that you have to learn it's another expense like buying a can is is is much
27:23
better so with your color Forge sprays yeah they fit in perfectly with g W so
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if anything they're helping push people more towards Games Workshop paints yeah
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yeah if you could spray like I I love using airbrushes for priming now cuz it
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means cuz the weather's always crap at the minute and where we are with the office it's like a wind trap and it you
27:45
could spin around in a 360 being wind wind wind which I think we yeah CU it's
27:51
all bouncing off the air bounc off all the buildings there but yeah like having
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if I was yeah having having color matched sprays and I think Army pain to
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do it exceptionally well and they have a ton of sprays as well they do yeah Games Workshop not as well you only ever have
28:08
what 12 yeah and and and then things sometimes they you know which is a bit of a Games Workshop thing is they they
28:14
dung wr's best than it used to be they they switched them on and off yeah like you know it used to be worse to be fair
28:21
was like um when when a marine Army had a
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had an update yeah they when they got basically when they got a new codec so like round about now yeah Dark Angel
28:33
green might come back spray I know it's called calaban now but the old Dark Angel green spray would suddenly
28:39
reappear yeah and would be around for if you were lucky six months if you were really
28:46
looking maybe up to a year and then it be gone if you should have had all your Dark Angels done by now we're off you
28:51
know is death guard green still available I think death guard green is still um is available yeah I think I
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think because I think that can get used a bit for like guard guards and stuff like that I think that's like sort of I
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think that's their sort of like middle of the road green that they're going for yeah um but uh color Forge do it as well
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yeah death rattle green it's called that's it and the great thing is is like say because they're so closely matched
29:17
yeah is if you do need to go back in and touch up you can find the you can find
29:23
whatever the color is in a bottle in the GW range it's there you know you know yeah that's a very good point but the I
29:30
like color Forge and I don't know and I probably bring this up as well a little bit you know as much as we we really do
29:36
encourage people to get to element games but obviously there's only three of them and if you really do feel the need
29:43
that you joing on a website if you happen to have one of them I don't don't think they're Nationwide but boys b y s
29:51
yeah my one local to me here in Nottingham is cut runs uh
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humro it run it runs humro it runs Vallejo in virtually an entire range of
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valo it runs Games Workshop it's now taking on the entire color Forge range
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of sprays sprays yeah and you think you know it's it you know it's for one for
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one 23ds of an aisle yeah and it sells GW figures uh 20% off as well but you
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think you know for for a for a shop that seems to sell everything Under the Sun yeah it seems to put in a reasonable
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sort of and the other thing it does as well is which you don't always see knocking around everywhere is it does the um the uh valo pre-built uh boxes of
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like if you want to do like how to do Undead skin it's the one where it's got all of the bottles in it of how to do this and how to do that you know so it
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sells a fair chunk of them as well okay and um yeah so it's you know for and then it's drills bone saws Gorilla Glue
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yeah all of that sort all all your paintbrush thers and things like that and so you know you think for a shop
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that's they know the well you know to put it in perspective in my one the
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aisle that does that if you turn around in that aisle it's the socks
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yes I'm not even joking it socks direct if you take from Games Workshop right
31:20
behind you it socks see I was banking on lamp shades I think they're upstairs but um yeah so you know I think
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you know you think you know Fair used to them for you know putting it and I know it's not all of them because I've I went in one in in uh in one of the the uh the
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little sorts of towns near the peak districts up in darbishire and they didn't run didn't run it but you know if
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you are lucky enough they um they you know they're worth they're worth a little bit of a punt especially
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to be doing especially to be when I went in there and they suddenly had the whole color Forge range and I was like wow
31:55
that's really yeah quite impressive you know so I'd be I'd be really interested um so if you're watching if you're
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listening um I'd want to know what people's main ranges are what they have
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the most paints of but then if you own anything else from any other company
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like what what tempts you yeah so I think for me it it was definitely
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initially GW um to begin with still mostly am yeah and and I think the the
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paints the paint quality apart from there's there's if you know they have a reputation for a few colors that are generally a
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bit um and having gone back to it you know a little bit recently um I'm like
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this isn't a Dro a bottle what the hell um and I kind of get more of the dropper bottle arguments now yeah um because I'm
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just so used to them well they did did you know the dropper bottle is just perfect for the airbrusher isn't it it's
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one of the things that stands up really well for like but just I'm I'm so used to just like shake shake shake put a
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little bit on the palette as well um and and all that sort of stuff and that's doing really fun my my question is going
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to be for the viewers um and I would like to see answers to this in the comments is even if you're you know
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mainly in one range what is the paint from another range that you absolutely
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swear by oh that's that you've always got to have that in even if you are only all GW or all all Vallejo or AK or any
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of the other myriads of Rangers what is the what's the
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what's the stepchild in your range that you really like having around have you adopted but prefer yeah what's this
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what's your new favorite child ad which of your adopted children did you prefer over all your other ones oh interesting
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so I think like for me it it was gwgw etc etc
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um o I Think Bold titanium white was like the first one we sort of was was
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one of the first ones where you were like oh wow like cuz and that's maybe
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and like wonderful job from those guys because if you think most people are Workshop the whites it's like they can
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be great colors but when you open a fresh pot and it's just a lump a lump of clay yeah and also not only that but
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black clay yeah yeah yeah on I'm a bit confused it puts it puts you off I think
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so if people on the internet at the right time go oh my God this new white exists and
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it's the most wonderful thing in the world ever and honestly bluming paints can be like bloody training shoes can't
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they you know suddenly you know everyone's painting everyone's wearing these and then suddenly you know yeah
34:41
Nike come out with a new pair of Air Jordans of some description and then everyone's in them and it's the same with paint suddenly Bal bold titanium
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was one of them where it was like I didn't know and as much as I now know
34:55
the range better there's a lot in it already like but I didn't know proac rol
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and I only got to know them because of that white and then I I know you did you
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stuck your foot in the water and bought some more of their stuff I only had that white and then I ended up with two
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metallics yeah I ended up with two sets which was one was like a main color of bold bold pink colors which I got from
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yeah Byron and then also Byron gave me a metallic box of colors and that's how I
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got to start using more more of the proac SL Monument range but if I if I
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hadn't have had that I'd have probably still just been going in and just buying a bottle of old titanium but yeah the
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one for me which is very specific but the one that I really like when I am painting uh death guards which has been
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a little while is AK do I think it might be called white green and it's a very
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very very light green and I use it as like a final highlight on all of the cracked bits of the armor and so on when
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I'm doing death guard plague Marines and so on it to AK it's white green and it's
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a white green it is if I had to be pushed I'd maybe say
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cabbage green or Cabbage White going back to my my colonary range that I'm
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working on oh yes like like cabbage tell is your favorite color iceberg lettuce green
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maybe yeah yeah I've thought i' WR A really lovely
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rich black would just a lovely just hint of brown to it soy sauce black oh lovely
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yeah yeah excellent if you drag it it goes light on the EDG it goes lighter out on the
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edges yeah white green your death card sorry from me death God yeah know it's it's an absolute blinding color for me
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for as a go-to for just that last that last highlight yeah I really like so yeah so I think maybe yeah speciality
36:53
paints definitely pull me away like um uh dirty down rust yes and and that one
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I think the oh I opened dirty down I was painting with the youngest last night yeah cuz he's H he's doing me a favor
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which is he's painting on my because I can't be bothered with them and I don't really mind how they look because they're in such big numbers he's
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painting on me poxwalkers oh okay yeah and he went he was funny though I'll get to this other bit he went he went I want
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to paint this some sort of rudimentary spanner I want to paint it in Rust and I went oh watch this my boy and I got out
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the um I got out the dirty down rust uh it's probably been in my not very well
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tendered Big Tub of paints yeah and I think it's been living upside down it
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had about a 2 and 1/2 in thick mud top to it is that one of the ones where you
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shake it and you're like oh this must be one of the ones without the metal ball in and you're shaking it and you're
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shaking it and you're shaking it and you're like oh no wait it does yeah and you get there eventually oh it's
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literally caked at the top I was like oh this might be Master best might need to give in and get another one but um fine
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but anyway so I put eventually got enough of the the the chemical in it
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that does that I manag to get enough of it to to to join the the you know the
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the liquid that carries it basically I managed to get enough of it and we hit it with a hair dryer and he was suitably
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wild and then um It's Magic and then and then and then he went oh now I want to do this one of them's got a cybernetic
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arm you went I want to do rust on that one as well I went let's try the other one so I went go and get that and come
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back with AK streak and grime oh yeah that may too well have been loving upside down cuz that was like about oh
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right know streak and grime separat the rust deposits yeah it was the rust deposit sorry it wasn't streak and grime
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sorry it was the crusted rust crusted rust to the absolute Max it was literally crusted rust at the top of it
38:49
like so I got through it with a hammer and then we put that on and then he U and then he went well I like the idea of
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it being rusted but what I'm after there I'm I'm thinking that maybe even the rust even the rusty arm may start to
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show little bits of signs of plague and he went so what green could I put it and I thought five minutes ago you could
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barely figure out what your way to all the brush and now you're bloody richy gray out thatly happen I really want to
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yeah elements of the narrative to come across in my painting father um honestly
39:19
I was like what but you know to be fair I thought you know what though um you know for 10 I thought he's not doing too
39:26
bad a job at them play Walkers the great thing you f them in 20s just just a seea of mashes of colors
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and stuff so you know that's cool no that's cool I try to think I don't know if I mentioned it a couple of minutes
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ago but um uh Veo uh metallic air paints
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yes but for painting by hand yes um I think it was probably Richard Gray but
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then um yeah model air is the range isn't it painon coach always used chrome model he loves he loves is metallics um
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and I I bought a bunch of those you get them in the big pots yes and those were kind of some of the first ones where I
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was like o I'm using that big is it the gun metal one yeah I that's just like my go it's my go-to metal now all the time
40:14
cuz it's especially cuz it's just so accessible you go you never have to search for it cuz it's in a bottle that's obviously bigger it's got a
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really good consistency and then and it's and it's got an agitator in it and it works really well and bang it's you
40:26
have to give it a bit of a St cuz sometimes when it lands you go oh it's just black and go oh no no go yeah yeah
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but it's decent I used some exhaust manifold recently and that was really good oh I haven't tried that yet but I've had good things about exhaust I've
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got the go I've got a bunch of them I used the gold recently and I enjoyed that you just got to be careful
40:44
generally I'm like put them on a dry palet yeah and DB yeah they don't like they don't like fluid near them at all
40:50
no no and sort of dab them off on a like do the first dab on a on a piece of kitchen towel or something like that and
40:55
that seems to you are quite runny yeah oh yeah super yeah the um the one that I've always loved is um which got I've
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got to take home I've got two bottles with there the uh the black metal yeah black Metal's great because if you
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really want to be Mega lazy painting like bulk guns and things like that you just paint them in that and then just
41:12
put highlights stra and you don't have to shade them it will do all of it for you I made a bit of a a a conjur at the
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minute with shading metallics um and I say a bit of a quandry like I've just
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what I've done previously like occasionally is used quite matte Shades
41:31
yeah and then if they if they like have cuz sometimes I've done like an all over streaking Grime like wash and then
41:37
taking it off but it that's super M so for the armor and stuff it looks great for metallics I'm a bit like it's kind
41:44
of just makes it in them look a bit like dirty which obviously is the point but
41:50
just matte and dirty so instead of this kind of like shiny metallic you just kind of end up with with just a bit of a
41:57
looking like gray yeah it looks like she just carrying a bit of an engine yeah yeah and then you stick a highlight on
42:02
and you're like oh yeah that's metallic again but I'm not incredibly happy with it um and I used some of the is it dark
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black knight I think one of the AK like deep Shades um used that recently and
42:15
that's super matte so I'm like o I haven't used nor oil in flipping forever
42:20
so I need to go back and and decide like I did watch infernal brush and he says
42:26
he prefers like thin down like black Templar yeah black Templar or which is
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almost as well if you thin down black Templar you end up pretty much the one I was going to say which I quite like over
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which I spoilers for the video we've done but um is uh basilicum oh basilon
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and gray yeah and if you thin that even more than it already is over metal I think that does it doesn't push it too
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far into the black so the metal sort of still it still exposes the metal 3 yeah
42:57
but I have this because obviously like everybody and even obviously the gwa is that BS are metal
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with a colorful casing yeah some some not but mostly have some sort of
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colorful casing but the thing is is I always get drawn back to is my previous
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military life is the fact guns when guns are never metal guns are black you know
43:23
or guns were black guns were black and you know they were just black or they were black with you know with my own
43:30
personal assault rifle with green bits on them you know and you're going and
43:35
now why why have none of them and the problem being is as well if you paint and I've tried it if you paint a gun on
43:42
a Marine in Black it just doesn't read very well yeah and I can see why GW have
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and you know they must have they must have figured it out because initially when they started making Marines they must have gone well guns are black and
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they've tried it and gone doesn't read right just something about it doesn't and you know and then it would look
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really weird if you imagine having a a black gun next to a black Templar yeah you know it starts to and then you know
44:07
all right and go well you can have a lead Bela gun next to a lead Bela Marine you go you can there's not that many lead Bela color Marines and also then
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the cas carries it you'll go well they have a black Cas or they have a red Cas or something but and then the really
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funny thing is now after saying go L this now if you look at like uh increasingly for a lot of especially
44:26
Western armies um assault rifles aren't black anymore assault rifles like are like this greeny
44:33
greeny cream color now oh right okay which now looks really really weird with
44:38
um with the King's Guard CU they now they're all in you know in their lovely traditional red
44:44
gear and a Black Rifle you know as it was and uh and now they've got these
44:50
things that are built purely to be a combat thing yeah and then now this weird sort of very very light off green
44:58
sort of cream color it looks a bit odd you know and especially as well as that they you know
45:03
they they're now covered other or bits for putting attachments of lights and yeah you know laser pointers and things
45:10
on them so they haven't you know you've got to be careful of them not ripping bits off their uniform when they move them about their body so it's like funny
45:17
cuz you think but there is no Reas there's no need to make a camouflage colored gun no when you're aaring bright
45:24
red armor or bright yellow armor he going make sure the guns c yeah yeah you
45:29
know it's all about like it is nights in space is yeah and it's all about how they and it's and it's all ultimately be
45:36
about how they read as repainting them yeah but you do think I'm painting this gun and it Sur it should be black you
45:41
know although what I did do is um when I did The Eliminator snipers I did them in
45:47
that new NATO color of gun oh right okay I just thought I'll I'll go with that for them but um yeah but it it is odd
45:54
trying to get metal to look like metal but not just look like a
46:01
gun but without just looking like a lump of metal isn't it it's trying to get that you know and also the problem as
46:06
well is that if we're talking as because it's what we are generally is we are
46:12
people who paint for AR paint for armies or or examples of things or examples
46:17
examples of army painting yeah is you don't want to be sitting there putting like nine layers on a gun you know what
46:24
I mean no you want to move on don't you know me yeah you know color wash
46:29
highlight bang that should be you know what I mean that's really where you want to be you don't want to be going and then if I just you know because I've
46:36
started going you know I go down stupid rabit holes yes um I've started doing it
46:42
with I've starts doing it with vehicles again now and I don't know it's like what am I doing is um if you think of
46:48
the standard Marine Bolter yeah it has that it has the barrel and then it has that little flat plate underneath it
46:54
which I assume is meant to be what we would call a bayut lug it's meant to be for sticking a knife to the but eyes I
46:59
think that's the plan of it you know somebody may know better than me and then they have that small little thin rod above the top yes on the tanks that
47:07
I've been painting cuz obviously the the the bols are on that are a bit bigger I've started I've started turn cuz me
47:15
there's not enough going on in me life obviously Pat I've started turning them into
47:20
lenses why I don't know I'm sure at one point back and
47:25
someone please tell me that I'm I'm not going mad I'm sure at some point back in the back in day of Games Workshop they
47:31
used to paint them as they painted them as a lens and cuz they're just a bit bigger yeah I've now gone I'm sitting
47:37
there thinking I've got so much to paint and I'm turning these things into a lens into a blue lens with a white highlights
47:43
and he go what am I doing but so that's been my latest thing of just going and don't get me wrong when you see all of
47:49
that just big clump of two big chunky barrels and then just two little dots of a bright color above them it it sets
47:55
them off but you're going it's not necessary and it's a LGE I need to talk myself away from I don't know
48:01
why I keep doing it but you know It's Tricky isn't it cuz you know if you put that out on a table and someone was like
48:06
oh I love how you've done all those as lenses you turn away and go yeah oh yeah
48:12
yeah just s of tapped them in yeah well you know I had I you know I had the bottle open so I thought you know yeah
48:19
yeah I just you know I looked across saw the blue why not yeah um it's like you know like cuz the other ones as well
48:25
like is if you open it you know the hatches on a space marine vehicle when you open them on one side they have the
48:31
two locking mechanisms you can see and on the other side they have like four buttons yeah and I always paint them in
48:36
and then I always paint them into every button's a different color yeah you can't have two red
48:41
buttons someone says brother hit the red button and they hit the wrong red button yeah it's either fire in the heavy bolts
48:47
or it's the ejector seat yeah yeah exactly it's like Jing your barrels like how are they imagine new bullets going
48:52
to get out we all know oh I seen someone the other day that even GW weighed in on this recently they did a community
48:59
article about it and what did they decide um they they just had Arguments for arguments against and didn't draw
49:05
you can do whatever you want it's your hobby I think someone I see a guy the other day painted the life out of
49:10
something I can't remember what it was it was some it was a Terminator but really really high level
49:16
painting and he hadn't drilled his barrels he'd done them as black sploders
49:22
black circles yeah but then did a really bright metallic highlight around
49:29
partially around the edge of one of the black ones to the point that they they were so good they looked drilled they
49:35
look drilled and so's like have you drilled your barrels or have you painted them he said I've painted them in and I said and I said I wouldn't even ask him
49:41
what he's done with his barrels if I could paint that well you know me what he does with his barrels when he paints that well is his own Bloody Business you
49:48
know what I mean really really really exceptionally good paintting anything and you think oh you know that's a
49:53
that's a whole other one is um I don't think barrels on I don't think barrels
50:00
on on Marines and things that small hugely that bothers me I think it
50:06
bothers me like when they're really don't get wrong like on vehicles yeah but generally on most Vehicles nowadays
50:12
heavy bolters use them as an example of a big barrel thing they generally are
50:17
built in such a way the barrels pre-drilled for you but you remember um uh County Council heavy Bolter
50:25
trailer that was in oh in the in Kill team and had massive big heavy BS with but they W they were flat yeah it's the
50:32
same with the um the guns on the votan like vehicle this sagur or whatever it's
50:39
called I can't remember but like I remember yeah Peach painting it and yeah it's just like a big flat like thing it
50:45
just looks yeah like a bit wrong and don't get wrong I always agreed with the argument to some degree of I paid for
50:50
that plastic why would to take it out but then you have to then say but does that mean you don't throw any sprws away
50:57
like what you do but um I think personally when they get that big if they're not drilled out I'd have to go
51:03
in and drill them out although I do think um I am possibly the world's worst
51:09
Barrel driller I I'm so bad at it I'm not incredible like I mean I I drilled one for you the other day and I was like
51:15
nope that's ruined um that can only ever be in an army never on a video yes yeah
51:21
yeah that's it cuz I cuz yeah and cuz I couldn't find the knife that I wanted to and I was like okay I'll try and go straight in with the drill worked
51:27
perfectly on the first one second one slipped and do you know what if you're a three if you if you are a 3D printing
51:35
company for doing little goons for for gamees work for 40K if you can print just a whole rack
51:43
of just replacement bol of barrels just the barrels the go right slice that off and put that
51:50
one on yeah and if you can print them with the hole already in that would be awesome thanks very much yeah that's it
51:56
yeah yeah yeah cuz that like that's what I would want or if you can't put it in can you just put a dent so I know
52:02
exactly where I'm putting the drill yeah yeah so yeah oh Cy so business idea yeah
52:09
we just sell stls of of just Balter barrels yeah um of of like really
52:16
obscure sizes yeah they go like hotcakes they go yeah well the wonderful thing I guess with the printing is I wonder if
52:23
they use the same dimensions cuz then you could just sell one but then you could scale up yeah it up and down say
52:28
oh if you wanted to use this for a heavy Bolter on this it's 150% or whatever um
52:34
but yeah sell it sell it with right here's your it's got a pilot hole you can drill it if you want to or not but
52:41
it'll be perfect and then do like you know half drilled fully drilled um
52:46
here's a cylinder one of my favorite ones now forgetting my my favorite uh pilot drill hole is CA I still a lot of
52:53
the time use the traditional Games Workshop thin needles polymer glue yeah
52:58
well you know that always dries in the thing so I always have a lighter handy so what I do a lot of the time now for
53:04
pilot holes I just heat up the end of a paper clip and just just B it in it
53:09
raises so it it does that because of the heat but then when you well you're going to drill through it bigger anyway so it
53:15
gets rid of it oh so it slightly does it slightly Peaks up because of you've gone
53:20
into it with the plastic that rises around the around the heated elements and then pull it out and then I just
53:26
either slight place that just take it with the edge of hobby knife or I just drill it bigger anyway and it does that
53:31
so that's [Music] interesting I mean you can always tell how good a GW product is if you have to
53:39
have like a separate third party product to make it work um the amount you know
53:44
I'd love to just fill a table with the amount of things that you have to use to to you know from paintbrushes all of the
53:51
other things that you go I need all of these weird little bits and bobs I think I was chatting with uh with ro and
53:58
everyone's got their own I think nearly every one of us has got our own little unique one that yeah cuz I haven't used
54:03
GW glue in ages I've been like on either Tamia or AK extra thin thin yeah um and
54:09
I accidentally bought just the thin recently and I was just like oh it's so thick
54:15
um and I I think it's great and then I couldn't find it recently or whatever
54:21
cuz I'm a mess and um found the GW one and just like with the Apple Ator you're
54:27
like right turn it upside down oh I've used too much of it so it doesn't quite work so you have to adjust where the applicator is and then and it's just a
54:35
faf like I I get the applicator is interesting like like I it
54:42
works it's extremely accurate yes it can be very accurate but it is just like
54:48
it's just not quite there whereas I think the Tammy exra th stuff is is perfectly well my best he he he swears
54:56
by it and the other and it was quite funny you know when you know someone's just better than you are the other week
55:01
he was helping me build yeah he was helping me the day build the or the um
55:07
Arbiters oh right and I could blly tell all the ones that he done and all the ones that I done because a they were
55:13
just scraped off but all the mold lines and lugs were all done much much better but also because Tim swears by it is um
55:22
when he goes over a mold when he scrapes a mold line he then puts the T thing to smooth it back out and I was kept
55:28
picking going why his got all weird shiny bit and going oh cuz he's he's extra thin and and honestly he was like
55:35
I was looking at mine and go I'm such a lite compared to these ones so yeah I've heard I've heard it's
55:41
great for um yeah the extra thin you can't do it with the thin because it it just is it's too thick even though yeah
55:49
but extra thin yeah it's great yeah for just taking all of them yeah like the heresy Marines with the two-part bumpy
55:54
shoulder pads um using like running it down the middle to try and like blend blend them together a
56:02
bit was was pretty good um where you couldn't do that with a GW plastic glue I don't think no I don't think no no no
56:08
you really couldn't though it's still even though you know it's very thin to be able to get through that Blum and needle sized hole but it's still too
56:14
thick for that sorts of stuff I think but yeah I said everyone must have their own little weird little yeah thing that
56:21
they they that they've sort of come into contact with you and you know what part you know come good perenties are
56:27
probably marketable yeah yeah we should we should make like a we should just buy
56:33
a load of unbranded Lighters and and then go to a sticky manufacturer and just be like this isn't just any lighter
56:39
this is the Games Workshop ajacent plastic cement applicator glue melter
56:46
lighter absolutely right and you know it's Warhammer because it's got a flame I often wonder whether my news agents
56:52
wonder what goes on that I come in and buy cuz I have losing them I come wonder why I come in and keep buying lighters
56:58
but they've never seen me comeing and buy anything I can smoke yeah yeah yeah what he do cuz don't I didn't know was
57:05
it so people like ask you like if you just if you're just buying lighters then it's just like you must be on drugs you
57:11
need to buy cigarettes to be able to buy that yeah um so yeah You' be like somewhere I have got cuz they just seem
57:17
to disappear somewhere that I have got my own like little mountain of like of Lighters that I haven't got around to
57:23
using or or one side of it and then managed to lose it but yeah it must be the amount of quy little
57:29
things we all must hold on to to do stuff with I think is quite it's quite funny isn't it you know you know I think
57:35
when that when suddenly when because they must have been there was that turning point when it became a thing for
57:42
became more of a thing in the hobby for you know and there some of the experts have known if for ages when suddenly went makeup brushes for dry brushing and
57:50
I go suddenly seems to be a lot of men in Boots buy makeup brushes no you buy
57:55
ons it yeah comes in discreet packaging nobody needs to know and it's
58:02
fine oh I'm gone are you are are you talking about makeup brushes or you talking about them other things that you can use for mixing your paints
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yeah yes either or yes it's a massage gun Jeff I already bought it for mixing
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my paint for all the sport I do it's for my back and shoulders and
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legs so ju just thinking on then do you think think um do you think color Forge will
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do you think color Forge will expand out in into the bottle no I don't think they
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would because they're just then too close to Games Workshop because they've got a little they've got this Niche pretty much tied up haven't they really
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oh I you know that because you have started making some other stuff they do they do basing materials and stuff like that don't they color
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Forge you're going to you're going to Poole it which is Patrick Googling it yeah see me Googling it is just um
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Googling it yeah yeah um so let's have a look so gaggling
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game because they obviously do what they currently do very
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well yes they do very sucess and and they and I think I've bumped into them and I thought I'm sure they were lovely
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yeah oh yeah they're great think bumped into some Birmingham game they do their zenithal packs and um all that sort of
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stuff okay so larger product range um oh yeah so i' I've got some of these like the basing like cork things
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they've done those for ages um but they do various different colors and bits and Bobs now so I think they're kind of like
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an ancillary is that word ancillary like on the peripheries of yes they're slightly
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further down the hobby trumpet AR they so thought they're far enough down it that they're hopefully not upsetting anybody yeah yeah well no I say but like
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because again they're still do you know you talk about this before it happens on a lot of different things but they're still doing Games Workshop a favor
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aren't they yeah somewhere big Games Workshop will be like hang on a minute we do that pink and you stop selling it but they can't do they can't do anything
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about it but still ball bearings dropper bottles that kind of thing like empty dropper bottles so you can transfer
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things over um and then we're into the into the sprays so the sprays I think
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it's interesting because I wonder if people like they'll
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always be known for their sprays yes um like like when we were at lvo like
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there's a the paint miniature paint Market is certainly getting more saturated I think there there's still
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probably room for for stuff but maybe it would have to be more Niche and this that and the other but then also you
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know somebody watched this chat show and we said well you need this that and the other and you need you your sprays to
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match in with your colors and so on and so forth but like color Forge realized that but somebody already makes the
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paints yeah so they don't have to worry so they so why would they make the paints themselves and have all hle yeah
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true um so I think what they're doing is brilliant maybe I wonder if they would
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yeah if they were like here's what was it the Fang no that's the Games Workshop yeah it's called um
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oh it's called wolf something wolf gray or something like yeah so we're like oh if they did a wolf gray pop but then
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it's also Games Workshop yeah you go oh I got it but you just basically buy but then saying that Duncan I think what
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they've done like with the Duncan roads Ranger paints Co yeah is is really good
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because they've taken Workshop colors but then like someone was explained it
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to me recently they've made all the just they all cover really really well so there's no this is a base this is a
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layer and this is whatever um it's just everything everything is very very
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similar and I think that's like AK do the same like they have the single pigment paints which is like really good for mixing and this that and the other
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but generally everything works the same you don't have to think oh this is a layer but I need to do a base coat with
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it and you're there putting like seven coats on or something and then you've got your other then you've got your other um train of thought of here which
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is the um which is I'm not a bright enough man to deal and is the Chimera paints which is oh I haven't even
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touched them small number of paints isn't it but um but all designed to mix and yeah and you think you know but then
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you start thinking to yourself I I'm I I'd have to have a notebook next to me if I started messing around with chir
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paintting going seven drops of this because i' never remember that or i'
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have to find it like it and then start putting them in dropper bottles pre and keep hold of it CU otherwise yeah i' I'd
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never keep up no I I wouldn't either um like someone was saying like the Army painter paints that's over 200 the ftic
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paints I think it's over 200 bottles wow um and every every color has six Paints in it
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um so like like say Duncan has his Triads yes um so you have we hate having
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a bunch of uh a bunch of gangsters working for him no wonder this company's doing so well yeah yeah you stock this
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paint okay just put the machetes
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away that's it yeah that's done that's how that's how you make a successful Paint Company violence um yeah he has
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midtone shade highlight three works of Wonder Army painter have gone with six
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and then on the bottles they'll say where in the six it is and it's a very
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well thought out range um but they've it's it's a pricey way of it's a p pricey way of painting though isn't it
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yeah yeah but then again who you you know you're not going to go I need six different yellows unless you work in
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yellows you know what I mean and and I think well because a criticism of the new arip range that I've seen I can't
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say whether um it's correct or not because I'm not intelligent enough and
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I've never tried them but you could take uh they they've got like their base color and then they just go brighter and
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brighter and brighter um adding white into it yeah so you could buy you know
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the the top two yeah or the the the bottom one and the top one or the bottom
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one and a white and mix the others yeah but I'm I'm definitely in kind of a a
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position at the minute where I can't really be ask mixing paints oh no I would I think feels like a hassle I
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definitely quite happy Dent my wallet out of laziness yeah yeah you yeah I
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think I think I'm in the same boat and I think whilst people might be going a you lazy boogers like you're not wrong
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you're not wrong at all we know the we know the fault lies with us yes um but I
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I think an army painter knows the fault lies for exactly yeah so I want to buy
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300 paints because I'm never going to have to mix anything ever again and it's going to be wonderful um but yes so I I
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think you know mixing stuff fine if you're doing it over an army I think
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that could be quite like difficult to replicate that on on a certain volume
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and I was I was chatting to um to Warick from harder and steam backck and and he
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would they were chatting about mixing paints but from like an airbrush sort of perspective yeah um so he said you know
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if you're doing an army you don't want to pre thin your paints and have it sit
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there for ages because it starts to degrade like it yeah the airbrush
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thinner starts to break apart like the you know the certain bonds within the paint and this that and the other but apparently there's a sweet spot whereas
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if you mix your paint and let it sit there for like half an hour and then it's like perfect was really really
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interesting um so I kind of like I guess slows the process down you'll be like right I've made my mix i' thinned it but
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if it's a base coat and you need you want that to be amazing then then you could
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just right I love four cups of tea yeah um and then we'll go yeah um but cuz
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I've when I see people um put GW paints
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into dropper bottles and they mix maybe it's different if it if maybe airbrush thinner breaks it
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down if you doing like if you're putting the specific medium of the paint to
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dilute it maybe that's fine like if you're putting Lami and medium into GW paints because that's just the
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medium isn't it um so maybe that's that's not a problem but yeah there we
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go food for THS so anyway you were painting your I was P for paint me rbes
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yeah yeah what colors are you doing and then we'll finish yes uh yes so if you
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if you are interested they are um they the one that I've painted is up on um is
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up on my Instagram page which is just my name Jeff saori and yeah so I decided
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having looked at them and I thought oh you know I want to do I really like the
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the idea of doing them something different so I painted them in uh basically color forgers version of the
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Fang which I can't remember the name of yeah and uh Wolfie something and um oh
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and they just didn't look right just just I looked at I went oh and now then I went oh now what and then I thought
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hang on a minute cuz it was literally out I thought I just slathered it in DUI violet yeah and it ended up with that
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really dark very very dark blue yeah and it's funny cuz after sprayed one went
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I've now bought an 1150 can that unless I suddenly Start playing See spce wolves i w never have any use for yeah and then
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then realized I thought oh now I've got to this is now me B this is now be prime
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for these guys that I'm not going to so ultimately what I come down to is it's it's not original those people have done
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them and they've done them for as long as there's been Ares models but I've done them as um as like a judge red
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style sort of thing red visor uh red visor loads of black two gold shoulder pads and knees knees
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elbows and boots and everything on the belt in like a green okay and so it's
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got a bit of a Judge Dread feel to it but so I stuck it up on Instagram and I went is either law or a bit of a bore uh
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most people came back and went and I went it's not original done was just dread and uh somebody somebody came back
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and went that's the only color to paint R by is doing the M CH dread and I was like yeah absolutely that'll that's the
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one so I think we'll finish up there and so look forward to our uh culinary based
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paint range coming out yes which we'll be working on the Yakuza system of they go it comes in the Yakuza system
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but how many paint is in that oh it's not nut to they just come in and make sure you stock
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it yeah it's only going to be five paints so everyone has space for it in
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their local hobby uh friendly friendly friendly local gaming store yeah I'm loving the idea of uh I'm loving the
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idea of people going I'm I want it in know in not not the hind but have you
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got it in the alone tomato sauce red it's just not quite as what what
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like like Mr Mr Pepe or what is Professor Pepe professor professor Pepe
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Brown yes exactly oh it's going to fly off the shelves yeah yeah oh yeah it's just Ali names yeah that's it that's it
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we we got it sused we'll have we'll have this market corner in no time maybe maybe it could just be all
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Browns like like what is what's their caterpillar Cubit yeah Cubit yeah cubber
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Brown yeah that's slightly different to Professor pep well I like the idea that you know you've got you know whatever
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color oven ready chips are next to chicken nuggets you know they're very close but just different enough yeah
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yeah yeah different all all the different shades of beige yeah I want I want I want um I want Bean soaked chip
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color it's like the brown but it's had like a been sitting under been sitting
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under the beans for you know 5 minutes yeah oh there's a whole range there we'll have to figure out well you could
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maybe that could that could be it You' be like well I started off with chip and then I went in with a glaze of Al's own
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beam um you're back to kir paint yeah you're like somewhere somewhere in
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between a glaz and a was anyway I think that's more than enough of that nonsense yes I think so
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um I'm not even going to talk about why I've been painting oh we never got there um well just working on videos in it um
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I did a I did a c of paint thing which should hopefully be out by the time this
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is so um I like now that's being painted is now just lives on that sh 10 what was
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it was that it was um um yeah I brought um some guys in here over the weekend
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and they were like where's Greg um I was like oh he hasn't come out the box since we moved so so Greg's back on the sh as
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he should be um yeah pride of pride of place um still get comments Greg all this time later about once a week there
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is it there still a Greg comment someone came up me yeah first
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said of you guys like when you painted that really terrible space Mar I'm like nice yeah like if that's good starting
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point yeah if that's my YouTube Legacy who am I to complain absolutely right yeah I'll take it I'll take it wonderful
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great stuff then let get a in there yeah so bye-bye everyone Thanks for tuning in yeah and thank you to our wonderful patrons as ever you guys are amazing and
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