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Is 3D printing going to destroy games workshop? Or is it too early to tell? To test out if there is any truth to the claim Pat & Geoff have a friendly competition to make the most Black Templar looking Black Templar, who will win? Games Workshop or 3rd party bits?
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this video has been sponsored by
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uniformation check the links in the
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description for all the products we've
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used 3D printing Ted by some to be the
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beginning of the end of Games Workshop
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is there any truth to that or is it just
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too early to tell after trying out some
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3D printed bits that we bought in a
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previous video today we're going to have
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a little competition who can make the
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most black Templar
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black Templar Jeff who can only use
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Games Workshop parts or myself who can
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also use those but I'm also going to
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have access to a 3D printer and anything
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that I can get off of it we don't have
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forever to make this video so we're
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going to try and see what we can do in
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about a day spoiler alert for myself
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takes quite a bit longer the black
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Templars zealots massively long Crusades
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killers of the witch the heretic and the
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mutant but most of all very Snappy
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dresses as Marines go we use the
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Templars as a template for our little
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competition here of 3D printed Parts
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versus Games Workshop Parts they're the
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ideal ones to use they have so many
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interesting things candles tabards
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chains books you name it though the ones
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that we thought would really test what
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we could both do when it came to
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modeling in an effort to keep Games
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Workshop and business their fate rests
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on my shoulders I'm going to attempt to
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make marines that are battle line ready
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using games workshops black Templar
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range some people may say Jeff you're
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cheating cuz you're already starting
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from a Templar base this is true to give
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this a real competition I would really
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be starting with an intercessor but why
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would you when you've already got a
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10-man squad which have got tabards and
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chains on guns all the things you need
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so I got to work I started clipping them
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out and trying to find just the right
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bits to make the perfect looking
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crusading
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Maniac so as you can see the parts are a
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complete mix I've used some pieces from
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the Crusader squad for the main body I
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then went and found a very cool head in
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the sword Brethren kit and then things
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that you must have being your Lantern
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your holy hand grenades of antiock and
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the big fire on his back all came from
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The Sword Brethren kit I had this guy
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ready to hunt B and decapitate a witch
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in than an hour so I'm team Printing and
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if I'm perfectly honest I feel well out
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of my depths here I've been put off 3D
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printing in the past by watching a lot
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of videos and sort of realizing that I
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don't have the time or or drive to get
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into another hobby I want it to be
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easier for me to do but as look would
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have it uniformation got in touch and
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they very kindly sent us the GK 2 which
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which has an incredible reputation for
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being a very accessible printer they
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also sent a washing station and a curing
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box as well so again thank you so much
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for your information for sending this to
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us but before I play with any of these
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cool pieces a kit I'm going to have to
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find something that I can print off of
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it and I also think I'm going to phone a
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friend here to get some
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help because I think I need it for the
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stls I've decided to use the etal
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Pilgrim bits from grow TI Studios
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downloaded them from my manufactory for
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about 60 quid perfect Gothic bits so my
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main questions as I rapidly approach
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having to print
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something what resin is best to use do I
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need to do any test prints calibration
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type stuff generally just how does it
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all work well as I mentioned I phoned a
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friend and they know
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what they're doing it's Ross from fa
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hammer and I think he knows a thing or
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two about 3D printing you can watch his
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full technical really good review of the
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gk2 just up there he very kindly bought
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me some of his wargamer resin from what
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I gather it's been formulated to look
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and feel like GW plastic something as
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wargamers we're all very familiar with
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it cleans up nicely great quality all
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that good stuff and one of the first
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things we did was uh put this sort of
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magnetized air filter on the back of of
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the printer absolutely amazing feature
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keeps all the smells and the fumes away
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so printing in the office amazing and
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then started to level the build plate
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that was surprisingly straight forward
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folded up some Little Bits of Paper a
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couple of times few twists and turns
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with an allen key and you keep playing
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and tweaking until you can't pull them
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out we just followed a YouTube tutorial
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and it was dead easy poured in the resin
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got this great great little feature so
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you know when it's full and you can't
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overfill it I mean I guess you could but
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you'd have to really really want to I
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got chitu box installed on my PC Ross
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sent me this PDF with like the print
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settings for his resin and the gk2 and
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all I had to do was just install that so
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he's done all the testing with the resin
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and this printer he just sent me the
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file fed it in job done this does feel
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almost too easy now it's dragging the
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stls into chitu box which does take a
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little while making sure everything kind
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of overlaps on the bases but not with
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the models you want to fill the plate
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apparently so you got to get it done
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didn't have any software crashes awesome
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and then it's time to see how much all
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of this will cost me in resin okay so
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I've been in chy box for the first time
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and I've loaded up my build plate uh I
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think I've probably put about five or
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six upgrade spru worth of stuff on the
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plate which if I was going to buy that
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from Games Workshop that would be about
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150 quid something like that so I'm
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going to hit this slice button and um
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I'm going to see how much it's going to
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cost me in resin I'm quite excited uh I
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don't think it's going to be 150
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quid
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um I think it will
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be
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30 let's find out it's
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475 close it
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off
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£475 that's
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ridiculous oh my God
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okay I I painted this guy mainly using
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paints from the AK range I went for a
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quite muddy brownish look to the tabard
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for most of the armor I did light gray
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highlighting and metallic chips to give
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it that really warning look to show that
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that Crusade he's been on as really
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taking its toll on me so I went in with
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a couple of different shades of red to
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to make him into a veteran Templar I
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painted this guy in a couple of hours
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whilst I was painting him Pat had to
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have out besides helping trying to show
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him how to use the
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[Music]
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printer time to hit control p and print
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all sliced up just plug the USB into the
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gk2 some of the USBs are kind of
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notorious for being a bit unstable this
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actually has some built-in storage so
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dead safe dead secure get that loaded up
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and just hit print uh the gk2 has its
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own built-in fan heater to get the resin
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up to the perfect temperature for
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printing once it gets the temperature it
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starts printing automatically and it was
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about 6 hours for this
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print so the the uh print's finished I
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can
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see the outline of models through the
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case uh I'm going to open it up and uh
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try and clean them Ross isn't here
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anymore um I feel I feel a bit naked
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without him uh but I'm sure I'll be fine
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and if I mess anything up
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um only cost me a FIV so um maybe 10
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quid isn't isn't too bad uh but yes
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cleaning next first time doing it see
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what happens
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got to wash and cure them rins them off
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first and then it was into the
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Ultrasonic Cleaner seemed easy
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enough and just let them drain for a bit
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into the curing station did that for 10
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15 minutes until they didn't feel tacky
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anymore
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done results of my first print really
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shiny and some loss of detail after
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speaking to Ross he thought they weren't
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in the cleaner for long enough as there
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was some sort of leftover Blobs of resin
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just in the recesses of stuff obscuring
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some of that detail after looking at the
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cleaner I realized that I hadn't taken a
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piece of foam out from under the tray so
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that would have stopped it cleaning
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properly I
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am an idiot even though I made the
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mistake with the Ultrasonic
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Cleaner some of the detail is is still
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actually really really good I think you
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only really notice it when you compare
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them to the second prints that I did
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especially like on the bases the
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recesses that kind of stuff you can you
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can really see how much of a difference
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that's made is just a lot cleaner a lot
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crisper I still wanted to make something
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of these so had a play and stuck a bunch
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of parts on a marine torso first attempt
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at my third party Black Templar I feel
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like I might have overdone it a bit I've
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been let loose with the freedom of 3D
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printing cool bits and I'm not sure this
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quite looks like a Space Marine anymore
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maybe the helmet makes it a bit less
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Warhammer I've also used quite a lot of
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bits I've used eight on here which might
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be too much is less more in this case
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but if I want to use less bits also
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what's the point this printer is awesome
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and after making this first does my kind
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of immediate thoughts are it's like
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being handed the keys to a
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Ferrari and only driveing to the shop
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and back I don't think I'm using the
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printer to its full potential
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I guess is is what I'm trying to say
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right then it's the end of my working
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day I have a school run to go to I've
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got a completed templ you looks great
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he's ready to join his mates he in fact
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he is ready to take the tentacle clean
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off a mutant shoulder this guy looks
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like a black Templar the parts are
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designed to go on a black Templar I have
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a whole range of them at my disposal
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sitting there on spru I can take him to
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a tournament and no one's going to be
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looking at me going what's that thing is
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that off a printer took no time to clean
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up
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a file and a set of Clippers I put this
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guy together got him painted Pat had to
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have a friend around teach him how to do
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it if I'm being honest I think they went
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and had a paint and then he came back
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and carried on staring through the
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little glass window this guy cost
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8159 but he didn't really because who's
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making one Templer we know there's loads
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of them for that amount of money you're
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going to get 15 Miniatures and also the
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ability to upgrade a vehicle and turn a
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generic Marine captain or left tenant
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into something that looks a little bit
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more like he should be in charge of your
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Templar Army this guy's blantantly a
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black Templar he's got a tabard he come
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from a box full of things that are black
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Templar there is no way you confusing
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him as anything else I've got this in
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the bag Games Workshop make him they
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call them black Templar already so my
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Nemesis in this video being Pat I've had
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a look what he was doing and I've got to
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say there is some great stuff there some
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of the 3D parts are really really Gothic
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some of them look a little bit like I
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would know where to start painting them
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cuz there's a lot of detail and a lot of
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it's tiny but to be fair some of it I am
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a bit jealous of I'd like to be having
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in my Templar Army so take two hit
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reprint and time to try
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again cleaned up the second Bunch let
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them dry for a lot longer this time gave
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them a quick dab with a paper towel
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before I put them into the curing
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station and this time it worked way
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better as I as I said so whilst I make
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up my second and third attempts with the
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3D printer I think my thoughts are as
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follows Games Workshop obviously own all
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the IP to this sort of stuff bits
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companies can get close but they're
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always going to be an imitation I think
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with these bits the shoulder pads are
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absolutely my favorite the skulls
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candles and capes are all sort of
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secondary to that the they're a great
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addition to a GW kit adding a bit of
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flavor I think I still find myself going
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for the bolters and the flamers and all
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that kind of stuff first over these 3D
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printed arms and guns and that kind of
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thing you start changing too many things
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it does become less sort of Warhammer
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40K less black Templar I think maybe
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doing this with just one or two
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marines maybe was the wrong idea and
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this is better suited over a larger
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number of Miniatures if they've all got
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cool flames on I think that would that
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would look a bit better or if one in 10
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backpacks were different that would look
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better than every single backpack being
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different if that makes sense so Games
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Workshop own black Templars they decide
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what they look like if you want black
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Templars to look
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official Games Workshop are the best
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option or you can just sort of put on a
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few little bits here and there but
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again having all this equipment it it
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feels almost like an improper use of it
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to print off a little candle and stick
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it on someone's backpack or something
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like that but if you are a hobbyist that
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really enjoys 3D printing and you've got
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the time to invest into it then I think
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you know absolutely using the bits on
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your Miniatures and customizing them and
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been able to go wild Is
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Awesome The more I've done this
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The more I've enjoyed it I think I the
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the more I print the more I play the
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more I get out of it have I made better
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black Templars than Games
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Workshop probably not have I had a lot
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of fun and have I made some some cool
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looking Marines yes I think I have so as
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I mentioned previously and with my sort
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of sports car misusing it analogy I feel
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like that's on me for not feeling like
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I'm not using this printer to its full
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potential so whilst I've been building
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up this second lot of Marines I've had
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some full Miniatures printing in the
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background and check out this orc dude
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from mesg and these definitely not
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killer cans this feels like I'm cooking
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with gas now and using all this awesome
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kit to more of its potential I might
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even try and uh start printing busts and
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and painting some of those Games
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Workshop who and again there a bit of a
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shout out to the quality of the printing
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and the resin that I Ross very kindly
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sent me I had a friend over to the
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studio and he picked up one of these
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Miniatures and said oh cool which bits
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are 3D printed cuz the color is quite
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similar the quality is exceptional so at
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first
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glance it's yeah it's really nice
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building
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3D printed bits with Games Workshop bits
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and they look quite similar I'm more
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used to having sort of white resin bits
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that stick on and and you can only sort
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of start to get a feel for the miniature
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after it's been primed with these they
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look amazing straight
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away and I feel like with this sort of
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orc boss with his massive Axe and his
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Gro gunning on the
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top this this really feels like I'm I'm
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I'm getting into it now assembling this
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and and seeing it and all the options
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that they gave you and yeah this is
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great fun I I I feel like I've I'm
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starting to get bitten by the 3D
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printing bug so initially we went into
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this video thinking that it might be
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sort of like a fun dayong competition
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see what we can do with 3D printing
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going to destroy Games Workshop is the
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sky falling down and I think that was
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probably the wrong way to go about it
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this has been really great great fun all
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in of itself I think the wonderful thing
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about the hobby is it's almost whatever
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you want it to be if you want to have
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all of this and use it to print shoulder
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pads awesome definitely recommend it but
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if you want to print your full
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Miniatures as well if you don't even
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want to use it to print Miniatures and
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you want to print door stops you can
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just do whatever you want and I think
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that freedom of having the 3D printer is
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amazing so there we have it the channel
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first foray into 3D printing parts for
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wargaming is the sky falling down for
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Games Workshop for the majority of its
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customers I'm going to say no whilst
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this process has been remarkably
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straightforward it's
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still several extra layers in a whole
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bunch more time if you could just go out
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and buy a plastic kit anyway all that
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being said though I did have an
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incredible time I think this has been
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the closest you can get to hitting
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contrl p and Miniatures come out of the
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other end and it's been a really really
19:06
fun experience to try and get to grips
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with if you love 3D printing I'm sure
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Games Workshop have lost out on some
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amount of money for people that print
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their Miniatures instead of purchasing
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from them is a printer like this how it
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starts how far are we along the curve of
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3D printing taking over additional
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injection mod of plastic I think it's a
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little bit of a way off as easy as this
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was it could potentially still get a
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little bit more user friendly and a bit
19:41
easier but incredible printers like the
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gk2 are definitely pushing people like
19:48
me onto that curve here I am printing my
19:53
first bits of models and having a lot of
19:57
fun in the process if you have thoughts
19:59
on this I'd be really Keen to know I'm
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by no means an expert and I'm just sort
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of verbally diering what my experiences
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have been this video started off as a
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competition and honestly I've got no
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idea um where we're at now a huge thank
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you for watching especially if you've
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made this far and again to our patrons
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who make all of this possible you guys
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are wonderful and thank you very
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much a