Chewing Fat and Q&A

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hi I'm pachy hello I'm Patrick hello I'm Jeff the fair the fairy back legs over
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there belong to B yes oh there's no dog cam Sor no dog cam sorry but she'll probably get up at
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some point and wander it shot no agenda for today really just uh just going to chew the fat talk about things we've
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been up to uh getting close to Christmas Al know the tree is not quite christmy as yet that will change in the next
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episode maybe maybe maybe see what we see what happens this might go out late I don't know this might be New
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Year who knows if that's the case I hope you had a lovely Christmas what are your wargaming New
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Year's resolutions oh whaty that old classic oh
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oh good God no it's new Army at any time of the year really is it yeah I I I think mine mine will be new year new
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Army that I should have painted last year that the that's new attempt on Army you attempt
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it's same Army same Army New Year have you got plans for new armies
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uh no um I think I'd have plans to maybe Kickstart getting back into well depends
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depends when death guard get the Codex I've got load of death card that need painon but I've sort to put them on the back band until they get the Codex it's
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not been mentioned yet all jeene Steeler has been mentioned for next summer oh cool next summer that's a long time to
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is that how long it's going to be cuz they they released a road map for or some of the next codexes is right the
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the there's a redacted codex which somebody reckons on the Great Vine they found out is emperess children oh is
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that because of all the [Music] porn what Empress children still an ash
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through and through they're into their bondage and painting with feces as well as other bodily
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fluids apparently that's where they're going to announce the when the sles Codex comes out they're going to announce it on PornHub yeah yeah what's
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that Jeff I don't
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know got you yeah I'm wearing my KC Christmas
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jumper I do have a sister battle one by the way uh I might wear that next time I also have an imperial not an imperial
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fist an ultramon one which is at the back of the Wardrobe with the uh the moth balls where it deserves to be uh
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forgotten forgotten I know where it is I just choose not to use it and that's and that's worse that's worse it's not not
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it's not forgotten it's forsaken forsaken yeah absolutely yeah yeah you're going to donate it a charitable
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donation to The Boy CS maybe maybe that's what that's all it deserves yeah that's all it deserves so you've got
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some stuff to talk about stuff yeah stuff yes this is from chroma cut
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Studios this is then it's now a live Kickstarter which we will have a link for and it's the um MDF scenery that all
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comes pre-printed and it only we only got out the box today to have a look at it but it's pretty awesome and it does
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so many different things going on here CU like with this one it's um this is the floor for doing a Nagle infected
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building and it comes with uh it comes with object objective markers and on the
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back if you want to so the sort of chosy well just Imperial skull thing but on
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the other side you can have them as uh adeptus mechanicus ones oh cool I didn't know they were double I mean of course
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they are yeah we're talking about this I don't if we mentioned it on the chat but
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yeah what oh yes barriers yeah you've got some more Kil te I've got some random bits and Bobs here but um I
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remember we were talking about foreground scenery and we didn't realize that they used to use a roller to so
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they paint all the panels with a roller and then it's laser cut so it adds that burn to the side I didn't know that was
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was it you that found that out or was it the guy that told us no it's the guy that told us yeah yeah interesting but I like the cuz that was quite good cuz you
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got cuz MDF comes as either wood have to paint and I've done that many times with like scenery cuz Sissa does that and
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they've got some amazing scenery um then you had like the foreground ones which were like colored panels and you build
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like town houses City buildings and they're like kind of pre-colored to a
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certain degree but you could repaint them this is really nice because you've got all the detail I know it's all flat
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and people like yeah there no detail it's all that but yeah if you're on a budget and you just want to get stuff on the tabletop really quick this looks
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really good and the nice thing is as well is is they have tried to break out of the flat thing cuz they do like um
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little pieces that will jut out to the sides of the building they have computer on on a they they have sent us another
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little taster of this and they had like computer door panels that you can glue on so they give it starts to give out
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the build and start to get a bit of a 3d effect and a bit texture to them so they are pretty good do one you've got there
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isn't the if remember right pachy which has got the um has got a um measurer
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for pop it out little 1 in 2 in and then 3 in which is cool
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is back yeah it's really nice and yeah so they we will put a link on for the
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show that they are now live on Kickstarter so uh yeah so if you want to
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go over and uh you know I suppose it's great if you've got you know if you're a little GL if you especially if you got
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like a little gaming Club it's probably quite handy to be able to have something like this but I think it's great for you know for for for a piece of wood to
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create what it does it's it's really good and and some really lovely little quaky little details on it and it comes
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with ladders which is always cool who doesn't need a ladder I mean everyone needs a ladder I remember a time when
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there was a drought of ladders in wargaming and for Siege gaming that was a nightmare finding ladders I mean you
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have to like there was the Citadel Siege set that had like two metal ladders all right a batom or two batroom Rams and
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some other random bits and it was like quite expensive I was like I just want ladders so you know little wooden
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steerers and lollipop sticks bol of wood was what you use but I was going to say don't don't get me started about the
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great uh wargaming ladder drought of 1994 it was 1994 you weren't there
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man I was it was a terrible years old it was a terrible time there was nothing on the news other than that for weeks yeah
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yeah yeah slow news cycle yes chroma cut Studios I might even as we're chatting I
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might I I want to see way around some of this while we'll have anata but yeah but yeah so they're on Kickstarter go and
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give them a look and uh you know a man building something without instructions that would never happen Jeff yeah know
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I'm just going to see I'm just going to look at my ass pocket and see if I've got me uh Ikea Allen key with
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me nice yeah I mean never leave home without it there's so many people that just want to get G and hassle of paint
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and scenery so the only hassle You' got really is to build it so you are saving
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time and time is a commodity you don't get back no apparently unless you're Time Lord we've seen as well from uh our
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friend who's involved in sorting this out he has sent us some little um sent
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us some images of future future skins and they got a really nice cool array of things that they've got planned and I
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think that's going to be the real the real hook with it is the flexibility of having it printed out in whatever design
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suit your army you know absolutely I mean as much as I am a fan of like necam
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and kill team and things 40K adjacent more time war cry that's what I
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want see too so yeah we SP we spoke to Lee about that already and he's uh he said oh you know there's there is plans
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for it to be able to do whatever you want it to do and that's that's that's good enough for me excellent that would
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be interesting well I'm Keen to see uh what you get built by the end of
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I may well do I'll see what I can and then pachy I believe you want to discuss a certain weapon um but I can't remember
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how it's pronounced BR broad bro I wonder where you going I'm glad
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I'm glad you got it so yeah so I uh recently uh purchased finally purchased
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the new hero Quest box it from Avalon Hill cuz I see I I I from from being on
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the the chat show with you guys and with Bob and and everything and I've heard
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loads about heroquest and I've granted I've never I've never seen the old one like in person but people talk about it
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super fondly and pretty much every gaming shop I go into I've seen the new one and I've always gone oh he request
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other than that never but you've done it I've done it done it I I took full use
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of Amazon's Black Friday uh uh initially I was telling you guys that I I'd put it
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in the basket the the price had fluctuated it dropped out because it changed and this that it was like getting quite frustrated and it's like
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what 100 120 quid normally depending where you get it from it's quite you know quite a chunky amount of money I
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would argue that what you get inside is quite worth the money I I think 120 is still quite pricey um but it dropped
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down to 44 quid so I was like it's amazing s so I was like I'm getting that
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um so I ordered it um because I've got a hero quest in bits and pieces up in the attic scattered around got some of the
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furniture some of the carrots some are half painted some are not painted and I like them either to be all painted or
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not all painted especially okay if they not painted have different colors depending on what you're fighting with and who you're fighting against yeah
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heroquest does that really well so you have like your Heroes which are red plastic your Orcs and green skins which
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are green plastic you're Undead which are white plastic um or like creamy kind of white um so I was excited to give get
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see how different it was from the experiences of 1989 and the fun we used to have at
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Christmas times sitting around the table me playing the dwarf my middle brother James playing the Barbarian my older
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brother being the GM and my sister playing who she thought was a girl but it wasn't it was the elf but we didn't
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tell her any different so she played that it was fun and sometimes my dad will be the GM and then my brother would
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play the wizard he always thought he was a wizard that was great fun times very nostalgic um so I got this opened it up
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really nice very much the same uh I'd say as as a heart of a game it's not
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changed there's no sort of like massive rule changes or anything like that still the same mechanisms mechanics still like
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the same kind of Badges of just updated the figures updated the card yeah every piece of scenery is plastic so you're
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not as fond as we now know I didn't know this at the time was like those plastic bits of scenery of the card we made by
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Dave Andrews and Bob nay Smith yeah um so there's a little bit of sadness there but at the same time they they've kept
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that kind of style yeah uh the same which is good the only thing I don't get so in the old sets you'd have about
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snoring we need to wait the dog up no she'll be fine snoring away so I used to
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get like the scenery I'll turn her microphone on and then everyone else can listen to
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it she be like who's breathing down the microphone this time it's just just snoring away she's had a heavy weekend
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what drinking oh yeah yeah I mean she you went to Liverpool then you she know she's like for Liverpool night life she
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loves her yeah it's all that all those Dockers isn't it yeah yeah she I mean it's good that she's comfy
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yeah yeah she taken to the studio rather well I would say it's her Studio we're just we're just here we're lucky to be
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here look looky to be part of the team yes proud to be part of Bella's team
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Bella's team Studio yeah there's one thing in the her request set which I'm still trying to get my head round
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because in the old days you'd get have like little holes in your scenery oh you have like some skulls and some rats that you can plug into the holes whereas now
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you don't get any holes on the scenery but you get loose rats and loose skulls so you can place them on but they're all
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loose so I was like they're going to just fall off when you move the senior around and stuff but the proud moment of
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a dad was hey Charlie do you want to play heroquest it's aimed for 14 pluses but
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the fact a six-year-old can pick the rules up oh fantastic and play it uh is Testament to the rule system so we ain't
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going to have no trouble game you say that set the bar I be like I don't think
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I don't think I can present uh I play games or present anymore we'll bring know when when does that thing with
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about children I always think of that grou markk when s grou marks always says
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it's so simple a child of five could do it someone find me a child of [Laughter]
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five it was good though we had we played through four scenarios the first four
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yeah um over the weekend so that was good seeing him like pick up the cards so like you can search for Treasure and there's like a deck of treasure cards so
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you pull it up and then it will like have some parchment text and tells you what's goes off so he's there reading it
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again really excited but he played as a Barbarian so we the first few games we just took he took the Barbarian and I
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used the elf now everyone's like but who's the GM so right now I'm playing a character Charlie's playing a character
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who gms's well they've got an app the app plays as the GM of I was I was
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amazing of course there's an app for that now as long as you like move your people in the right place on the on
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because you have like a a digital board and you just move your characters and follow the instruction the only thing you have to do is roll the defense dice
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for the bades when you stroke to kill them and if you kill it you just kill it on the on the app just go dead yeah um
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but the fact that it controls the bad is and tells you where they're going and then reveals the rooms so you don't have
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to worry about what's going off for the scenario because the thing is the GM the games master or as it's known the evil
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sorcerer zagan that's what you play as great name zag that's has to be pronounced
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like that absolutely like so fire of Wrath if anyone's ever seen
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the old advert you need to if you haven't watch it it's great it's so cheesy so bad made Pat watch it the other day I was like we should uh do all
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our adverts like this it's really bad but yeah so the app controls so you don't have to worry about
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um like finding out ahead because when when you play a full game proper game
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when it's like four players in the GM the GM has like a quest book and none of the players are meant to look for the
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quest book all the secrets and this that and the other so it's the GM's job to to use that whereas the app kind of does
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all that for you so you don't have to worry about Secrets being revealed you just go into a room open the door walk
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through done and it tells you what's there wonderful and then you fight it slap it and kill it that seems very so
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is is heroquest um is it kind of like DND D like the D and D combat system is
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it sort of yes and no I mean it is really Bare Bones entry level D and D
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okay um and without like you know going too much into like the mechanisms you you have two actions as a character and
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the order in which you do it is entitled up to you you can move and then do an action and the action could be fight
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cast a spell search for Treasure find traps or whatever or you can do that
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first and then move and the great thing is if you're in combat there is no sort of like disengagement rule or something
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like that so if I'm at a door as a barbarian and I attack the monster on
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the opposite side of the door and and don't kill it and that was my first action I move out the way so one of my
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buddies can get to the door and do the same thing so it's quite quite straightforward there's no sort of like you get attacked if you leave and this
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that and the other there's a few like Nuance rules as as you go on because you might be able to get like special weapons that can fight diagonally cuz
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it's just on like horizontal vertical squares and stuff everything square
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based so you roll two dice how far you move and you just literally move that amount of squares yeah uh so so very
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straightforward from a D and D point of view I think like rules-wise probably not setting environment yes style yes it
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feels like you're playing D and D but really simple rules and the real question I guess is if Charlie was
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playing the Barbarian did you teach him that every time you hit someone or get
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hit you have to be like no I've clearly failed as a father
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and then um and then and then what is it you have to run around going laminate their women laminate the women I might
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have to say Charlie after each time what is best in life and then just teach him teach him the the phrase yeah like make
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sure you laminate the women okay Mass important and they'll be like what does laminate mean Dad it means you get two
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bits of uh like plastic melting together and seal things in yeah seal things in why would you do that I don't know you
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need to stop some running away yeah barbarians need just yeah what is it the
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what what is the act it's the hear the the the lamentation lamentation
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lamentation see your enemies scatter before you crush your enemies see him scatter before you and then hear the
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lamentation lamentation lamentation lamentation the crying I guess the crying of the yeah yeah cuz I think when
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I first watched Conan yeah I was too young to understand what that was and I just heard lamination yeah so I'm just
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like all right okay yeah and I just accepted it the big question for me for for Conan was what was he been in that
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wheel for was it grinding like sort of wheat to make bread or was
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it just like somewhere 100 miles away is one light flickering in a tower and he
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was just the electric guy I mean the power suppli yeah yeah I mean he was a
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big unit wasn't he yeah but it's like there was nothing else around no like in the middle of nowhere and just a random
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wheel maybe I mean I don't know how technologically advanced they were in Conan times Maybe
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um they had a dam yeah and they'd invented like
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hydroelectricity so he was pumping the water back up the dam to then be like
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dropped back down again yeah or or something like that is that how hydr anyone knows what was actually the wheel
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was doing get in touch yeah yeah cuz actually no that doesn't make sense cuz he's like spinning a turbine but then
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the water would drop down and then spin a turn you don't know where that is that could be miles well yeah maybe they just
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hadn't figured out hydroelectricity yet so it was a rudimentary sort of yeah the
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initial the beta test I mean they're all on the opposite side of the camp going he's just put it's not even doing Le to
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it leing to it oh we've made a monster oh no the rest of the guys died but he
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he at them all apparently yeah I don't know what he did he did get abs whatever like maybe he invented CrossFit you know
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it's functional fitness he just pushed a wheel they'd be like oh how did you get so jacked like did you do this with this
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way he's like no I just pushed surely though he'll only have strong legs I don't know though maybe he would
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have strong arms cuz he's got to push the wheel as well has yeah cuz maybe he just got so maybe sometimes he just didn't show it he made him pull
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it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz because then he'd have he'd have
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quite the muscular imbalance really wouldn't he CU if it was all pushing he'd be very very good at pushing stuff
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but then if somebody went uh Conan could you just pull this and he be no sorry
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yeah people like yeah I only go forwards which is why he's a barbarian
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yeah oh talking of that I was so Charlie was playing as the Barbarian right yeah
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and he proper Barbarian tactics no thought whatsoever so you'd open the door there'd be like four enemies in the
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middle I was like are you going to wait at the door for them to come he's like no I'm going I was like you will get attacked by four I can't help you I'm the elf I'm rubbish I can't help you and
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then they'll just go in the middle and just get attacked and then like lose two or three hit points and then uh cuz I my my uh elf has you have four magic powers
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you have fire earth wind and water elements Peach come on and they're like
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they're like a really good funk band yeah I was going to go with that
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guy I forgot about it um but yeah you get the the elements and as a wizard you
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pick three decks the elf gets one deck and I just went with like one of them and it was he you could heal basically
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and he was just like Daddy heal me and in the early games I just kept using the same spells all the time but in a proper
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game you can only use the spell once per Quest so once the spell has been use that's it you can't use it again and I
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was constantly healing him up um but he only like take one hit point like Daddy you need to heal me I'm like dude you've
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got eight hit points I've got four you're fine you'll be fine like no I've lost
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one I was like oh God all right I've got I've got a grumpy child I need to heal I need to heal him to heal has to be full
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health all the time full health like no you need to experience Peril son well stop running into a room full of Orcs
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yeah I guess that's like a yeah it could be like an educational opportunity like you have done this yourself get a Star
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Wars moment in there the only the only thing I'm sad about now and I didn't realize at the time was it was
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kickstarted about two years ago all right um and you could get something called the Mythic tier and the Mythic
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tier would be this the set plus um different genders of the the goodies
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well as the alterate in the now you do get like some
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male Orcs female Orcs male Goin female goblins but in the other se you got like
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Undead like a female skeleton and a male skeleton like how do you know is it the pelvic design I don't know same for the
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zombies and stuff but they did it with the character so you had a male Barbarian a female Barbarian and you had like different cards for them as well
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and there was like some extra quests that you can get in there and I'm just like so you could technically play with two Barbarians in the game then so you
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could have like a male barbari a female Barbarian cuz I'm all about that I mean that would be fun I'm going be red Sonia
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I'm going to go in and just Hammer excuse my French um but yes m m uh
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but yeah no it's it's I'm excited to play it and I'd love to play with you guys yeah I we'll absolutely have to
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have a game yeah I think there might be a riot if we don't play necromunda before well I mean that is one of the
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questions and I think for Christmas doing doing like one or the other cuz we've got the shootout scenario I think
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we should do that first me and Jeff shootout a handful of Dax with a handful
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of vanar doing a weapons exchange that could go well could go well or could be
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really tense and turn into a gun fight imagine if we roll and just good oh the all went well and then the next bit is just like and then it just was D just
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drinking in the pub yeah yeah yeah I mean there's rules for bar games really sure but the thing is it's the T I mean
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I've got plans in case things go well too well yeah too well um but it all
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makes sense later on down the line for the the campaign so feels like a year ago we discussed this yeah probably yeah
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yeah because it was before Christmas where we were like planning on a kunda campaign the fact that people have still
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been going what doing I mean rightly so to policers and you know reminders of our I think it's well I think it's
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impressive that people are still interest people are Keen to see it so definitely yeah yeah no I'm uh I'm eager
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eager for some for some grinding of Corps yeah but yeah I think I think we should definitely play the first
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scenario of um and I want the uh people in the comments viewers watching this to
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whoever played original uh heroquest because I can't find the book anywhere and I can't remember I always thought
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the first one was the rescue of sagna you have to go and find a guy um it might be mission to but the first
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scenario in this one is called the trial and literally I think it's a really good intro and I don't remember if it was in
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the original because I can't remember that far back but in this one it introd produces one of every enemy and all the
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furniture in the game so it's almost like pulls you in to the story so yeah
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you get to use everything in the set how cool is this and then the next scenario is like oh there's a few less things to
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use now and you got to do this really complex sort of like find a prisoner kind of job it's a good way of doing it yeah so I do I don't remember that being
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in the original but I could be wrong um so if anyone can remind me and if they've got a copy uh have a quick look
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that' be great and let me know snoring away uh what about you Pat what you been
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up to um what have I minut oh yeah I can I can hear it I can hear it I'm trying to turn up a
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microphon a amazing a that's so adorable how's the building
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going Jeff bad I've got this one which you can uh oh yeah Fant like
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doors fascinating yeah no uh outside
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of like this this has been our sort of first sort of I guess like pre Christmas
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sort of like we're a YouTube channel now um so it's been crazy like with the
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videos and sponsors and stuff like people have probably seen that we've had a few more sponsors than the than usual
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um but it means it's good it means we can do stuff so hopefully it hasn't been too intrusive uh and all that sort of
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stuff but yeah no uh I've I've been spending a lot of my evenings here yeah editing editing away um so so in terms
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of hobby um no I haven't really been doing uh a massive amount of stuff I did
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um uh I really enjoyed using uh 3D black Templar bits yeah um from Archie Forge I
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was I built a black Templar redemptor dreadn um on uh on streaming last week
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and that was hilarious um it's just so much fun like does a Dreadnaught need a
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loin cloth yes yes it does also known as well it's uh the initials a DT
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um T the T the T stands for towel uh and the D you can use your imagination sure
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for Richard yes um so and we were trying to come up with names for um uh the the
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redemp and someone was like oh it has to be like leftenant DT um something else uh yeah cuz that
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was it we were like yes he has to cover up his Robo dong roboo but um yeah and and I um yeah we
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we put lots of effort into the sort of hobby product thing and done really well um yeah and that was really fun I feel
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like I've learned loads about uh Snips yeah is that from all the comments of everyone well yes yeah and and I I I I
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made sure um at the beginning of the video that I was like you know we're using a lot of these things for the first time um you know we might not have
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the uses 100% down and stuff like that but yeah the the the chat between um in
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the comments and stuff like the God Hand clippers and stuff they're oh they're designed for this very specific use and
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if you use them for anything else they will die um like like it's like their
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sentient and as you cut through GW plastic it goes no thank
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you I'm designed specifically for JA knees flat this is made in Nottingham um made
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in England good Lord yeah once it's made out of Pies
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um um so that's been very very interesting um so one I guess my
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takeaway that I've learned is like you don't need necessarily need mega expensive clippers because the godand it
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sort of designed for doing the gunam stuff where you build it and you don't
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paint it because it's it's colored plastic already uh so they're designed
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for the really flush cuts and this that and the other and yeah very you know what surprised me it wasn't until hearing you doing the the voiceovers and
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stuff like that was I didn't realize the AK Clippers were like a tener yeah and the workshop ones are double the price
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yeah well triple now triple for the same thing yeah pretty much I mean unless and
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they're not as good unless they've you know been forged from the blade of Excalibur which I doubt maybe maybe I
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mean we don't know I may I mean I think God hand is probably forward from the Spear of Destiny maybe but that price Ze
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yeah Ze had so much to do with it yeah yeah um but yeah the world of Clippers
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and then people have recom I think we could we could probably do now with everything that's been recommended
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another video um another video just on Clippers yeah um and how it' be an hour
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and a half yeah yeah it'd be an hour and a half and I'll be like um this is the definitive guy
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justy people like this is the definitive guide and I go well it's a very simple
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15-step process and they have a different set of clippers for each stage you could even go down the route of like
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what can these do and what can't they do so you work your way through every Clipper doing every job and then go to
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127 Hours and try and clip off your own arm it's like can it do this no right
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yeah yeah we went out and bought a bould we wanted to see if we could
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remove our own arm with God Hand Clippers oh my gosh yeah that would be amazing um but it was very interesting
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cuz like people are like um they're like you don't want to cut from the sprew with God hands you want to do that with
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any old Clipper leaving a bit of sprew and then use your God hands to cut really flush um or so you don't get the
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little yeah so then um but yeah I think basically like my the the AK ones for 10
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quid um did did a very reasonable job and they're 10 quid like it's fine so
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I've been using the AK ones for Plastics whereas um I've got a load of well I've got two pairs of
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the the the ones that Tom did the sort of like red metallic yeah the pretty
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looking ones but they're still just Clippers I use those for a lot of like heavy duty work now and stuff like that
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so maybe clipping out big chunky bits and then I use like the AK ones for a little bit more cuz they're nice and sharp and it's good for plastic whereas
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I have probably abused my Citadel ones quite a fair yeah I even still got the old old ones
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that give me blisters on my fingers and I don't know why I still use them yeah and and it's interesting metal yes and
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yeah and it it was really interesting like the Citadel ones you don't use them to you don't put them flush with the
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model and I kind of um that's what we've always been told to do yeah yeah you go nice and close to the model snip um but
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with a c ones you don't want to do that um but then with the godam ones you do so and then others it's like everything
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needs its own set of instru instuctions and its own use and yeah I remember once someone did tell me cuz in our
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instruction guides when we were doing the build videos we' use the Clippers you make sure you get the flat Edge as close to the model as possible clip it
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off cuz that's the standard protocol procedure for do that yeah um and then someone's like only you have to do the
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opposite way around and then you have like a nu and I was like you've as much as I love the mold line remover cuz it's
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not sharp but cleans mold lines I ain't getting rid of that massive chunky bit of with that how the hell are you
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expecting me to do that yeah cuz that that was the the point was like you clip them like this then you use the your
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knife or your mold line remover to get rid of the the knbb I was like no that L you know that's like 3 four mil um bling
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EG yeah and um yeah it was it was really interesting reading the comments of that video cuz there was loads of comments on
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Clippers yeah and and then loads of comments on uh the wow stick like the
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the the drill nothing on the Splat at all which I I was there a few on the Splat was one or two yeah SP the one
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that made me laugh was that and and I'm sorry if it was your cell phone I don't mean to be horrible was somebody
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when just used an old toothbrush thought you've not watched the video yeah yeah yeah trust me when she used that
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splatter tool you will not use an old toothbrush yeah yeah I mean I used to use obv just seen the product hang on a
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minute you could just I mean that literally my theory beforehand I was like cuz I I normally use an old brush and a bit of metal or a toothbrush and
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then I I think it was Andrew Gibson yeah it was Andrew Gibson gibon Andrew Gibson Andrew Gibson we did a little one toone
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session and then I was like oh you know I've got this thing oh life changing yeah splatter it's life changing I was I
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actually as I said on the show I I actually was using it at the point I was actually enjoying myself yeah yeah like
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this is quite cool just because you get different spreads different thicknesses and yes you can do that with a toothbrush if you thin it down and off
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and like different pressures and stuff but this removes the thinking yeah yeah I somebody um as as you say someone sent
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me me a a message on Instagram and they were like you could just use an old toothbrush and I was like well well we
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we use a new one um on on the video um and and then they yeah they said well
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you could get different kinds of toothbrushes that are different ages and maybe a kids one and this and I'm like
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I'd rather just spend the money spend the because also depends on
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the toothbrush yeah if you get like a bunch from auddi or little which are what like 30p each or something then
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that's fine that's you know quid cuz the yeah the guys uh guys and girls uh from
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from AK cuz I I put the screenshot in and like Tagg them in it in the stories and stuff and then they yeah they shared
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it and they were like of course it's worth it it's like it's great for different bits of splatter at different
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scales which is one thing cuz I guess everything that kind of we do with Warhammer is is generally a very similar
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scale so that thought didn't enter my mind even like adep as titanicus you can use some of the finest stuff for like
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bit Splat at the the base of the uh the Titans Feats and stuff Feats so I'm Turing to my son feets feets Feats of
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what engineering um so yes that's that's kind of uh yeah hobby products has been
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consuming me uh of late and then uh it will soon be uh infinity and
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Orcs um and a Gundam uh that'll be fun some yeah blizzard related
34:29
content which I'm excited about um I have a whole s of questions from our
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patrons from our speaking of which if you want the opportunity to ask us questions or ask our guest questions
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consider joining our Patron we have different tiers with different benefits some of them from just joining the Discord which is an amazing Community we
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love you all you know who you are um as well as like to one sessions with me and
34:53
feedback and stuff like that I've got a few bits still to do for that some feedback but having fun with my on to On's getting a a good crowd now a few
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regulars uh excellent something to mention as well few people have asked this and I'll have to go back into the
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patron tier and have a bit of a read but a few people are like if I do the onet to one do I have to pay every month but
35:11
only get one session I'm like no it's one session a month and you you can change your tear at any point you don't have to like sorry my belly is going
35:18
mental I I think I heard that my headon through the m i just sound like a dog my
35:24
belly's turning into a dog it's just sympathizing Bella um but yeah so with the one to one sessions if you're like a
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3 Patron um you can upgrade to the py tips tier and then for a month get a
35:35
onet to one session then you can always go back down to three pan it's good as way of just like tapping in for something you if it's a new project
35:41
something you don't know how to do jump in go it and literally um I cater my
35:46
sessions to whatever you need so if you like want to know how to glaze I'll talk about glazing if you want to know how to cuz few people just ask for like
35:52
theories on Army painting so I've just sat for two hours discussing like the things you need to do right notes sharing information with them got a
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document about Army paint and stuff like that so it's literally anything the only thing I won't do is airbrushing because I'm not that good at it so till I get
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good at it uh I won't be doing much related to airush I could do some real bare bone stuff but nothing that's like
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super awesome I'm sure there's more talented people out there that use airbrushes than me but questions yes we
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have a host of questions the first one's from twist it tree uh nice quick one to
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to warm us up to ease Us in the lubrication of the question questions if you if you like
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okay what hobbies do you Lads have outside of painting tiny figures do you feel they relates to and overlaps Tiny
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figures or are they completely unrelated so Patrick Hobbies outside of tiny figures oh
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cranky um CU for the past like year and a half of my life this has quite been like an all consuming thing um which
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kind of happens when uh you're self-employed um but I play guitar hm uh
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so yeah I granted not as much as I should um or feel like I should but um
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yeah yeah always been into music uh and playing electric guitar uh which is good fun uh I do like my uh my metal music my
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Metallica and Trivium and all that kind of stuff so uh the guitars in the old sets used to get a few comments on
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they're like is that a baritone no it's a seven string um so yeah but I mean my
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hobby for the longest time has just been filming stuff um I really really like
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filming stuff you like board games as well don't you kind like to play board games yeah play some board games we we
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got uh brass Birmingham recently which was quite fun brass Birmingham yeah it's it's set in the industrial revolution uh
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cuz Birmingham used to be called the black country which because there was loads of coal mines there um and uh yeah
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and you kind of go oh I'm going to build a canal and then and then you're like it's all about rail now and you're
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so so that's good fun um but yeah yeah
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I've always been to into into music and and videoing stuff um yeah yeah used to
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do a lot of climbing used to work in a climbing wall um but um I don't I haven't done that in in a while I need
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to need to get back into it yeah what about you Jeff uh Cinema really getting
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like some a big film fan trying to get to the cinema as much as I can that takes up a lot of the time and I've got
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to be honest the rest of the time it's it's not really much it's not a hobby as such but probably really my hobby is
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supporting me kids hobbies for fing them around for the things that they do and uh whatnot trying to get a little bit
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more into being outdoors and a bit more sort of not just walking the dog but
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being out walking the dog you know going different places and so on and that but that's it really at the moment I'm a bit
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like P I've been out of 40K for a long time and then it became a hobby again and now with this it's a bit all
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consuming of a I spend me time if I'm not doing 40K or something I'm generally
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thinking about it and some capacity but yeah that's it really walk on the dog go in the cinema bit boring I'm afraid
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yeah while well I used to reenact a lot which I guess is related yeah uh cuz
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it's large Men playing like tiny men hitting each other with large versions
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of tiny weapons um which was fun I've not done it since lockdown so I need to get back into that I've still got the
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armor and stuff um one hobby people refer to it as a hobby I don't really see it as a hobby is as a motorcyclist
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it's for me it's necessary as opposed to a hobby because I learned to ride a motorcycle when I was very young when I
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say very young like teenage years at woulds old enough to ride a motorcycle he was literally commuting to UNI in
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college well uni Les College because on the back end I think when we left College I got me bike um so it was just
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for travel cuz I lived in the middle of nowhere cuz for a time I was in like spondon the first time around in the councelor state and then we mom and dad
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moved to a country area so it's really hard to get anywhere I could my dad uh
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cuz well he's got other things to do as well so I got a got a motorcycle for that and it was just purely for
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commuting but 23 years later um it's like yeah it's
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because sometimes I always get anxiety when I park up at like motorcycle car parking area and there's other
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motorcyclist and and they like come up to you like oh yeah have you seen the new zxr and this and I'm like words numbers don't know what they mean yeah
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yeah you're checking information I have no idea I just ride it it's got two wheels and I know how to ride it yeah um
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but I enjoy it U someone did ask it's a it's a kawazaki versus 1000 and it's just perfect for like all because I ride
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all year round so yeah so it's not really a hobby but it's it's enjoyable I do enjoy riding around and finding
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opportunities if I can to go the long way home or whatever um photography has become like a bit of a hobby for me as
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well so like since being a photography manager seeing what they do and then just making little setup so when I do my
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Instagram posts I have like a little bit of a backdrop using the TV screen behind it getting used to that but just use my
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old phone a lot of people think I've got some high-end camera I don't I have this and I use this this is this is my my
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life of Photography yeah um but yeah like Jeff just like Hobbies with a kid
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yeah or whatever hobby he's into at that time which is hero Quest right now is great uh pench Peno uh more
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brutal than weird when is the next campaign for nakam going to happen uh it's going to happen don't worry but he
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says love the interviews chats painting tutorials Etc love it keep the good work thanks uh interesting question for from
41:38
matt. paints oh is seral is cereal
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soup why or why not okay I mean cuz soup can be hot and cold if you have gacho
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soup soup yeah yeah yeah y struggling to aree on that I mean sometimes like if
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you're doing like tomato soup like cream of tomato soup you're adding milk to it
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or evaporated milk you're adding milk to cereal aren't you so okay so the man makes a strong point
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the the definition of soup is a liquid dish typically Savory so typically but
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not necessarily and made by boiling meat fish or vegetables Etc in stock or water
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so I think it it has to be cooked and then you can do whatever with the
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temperatures so I am firmly uh who who asked the question
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matt. paints matt. paints soup is not a cereal and if you think it is you're wrong fight me just like a boost isn't a
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biscuit boost is the biscuit was that I love Pete War Pete the war Gamers break
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out over that is like existential crisis we broke it just a thing of absolute
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Wonder yeah yeah so I love I think I've talked about this before like like when we talk about how like generally with
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with serious things I'm like okay like I'm not really like a an absolute person
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I'm not a I'm a only the Sith dealing absolute so clear not course yeah but when it comes to things that just don't
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matter yeah um and and then uh so yes I love I love just being like okay I'm
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just going to be on this side because it doesn't matter matter like bread the argument of bread you can just be really
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sort of like Crusade about it CU it doesn't matter CU it doesn't matter so if anyone thinks um soup is a cereal um
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or cereal is a soup yeah yeah I don't know why I'm looking there I should be looking there yeah whatever uh do you
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have any counter argument to that Jeff uh would you have you seen through Pat's logic and it's all lies I'd love to go
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yes you've done your own research
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no um no I've got to believe it to me I know gpio is the exception but soup's
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got to be hot right thing is I I I will put a spin on
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it I wouldn't want to dip buttered bread in a bowl of
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Cheerios no and I think that is that's my defining feature for super I like
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that I like bread with butter yeah yeah unless you got a wheat intolerance crusty crusty bread butter gluten then
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nothing yeah but you know vegans can eat bread not with butter no oh margarine
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fine them is it cuz that's you get you get vegan spread vegan spread you just get vegans melt them down put them into
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spread yes okay that sounds really extreme I buy it from Saints spr
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yes taste the difference taste the difference if you're a vegan we love you
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by the way we love you it's okay that's it's the bread element for me that uh that forces the issue on water soup yeah
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sens how about yourself for this argument I have no opinion
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okay sorry mat that was fantastic interview and then from you for the pair of us because you dragged us into like a
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proper point on it though yourself don't know don't give a toss Dan Spencer Jeff are you playing
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any 40K at the minute and do you think you will play much death guard uh I am playing 40K at the minute I'm playing uh
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a th000 point uh campaign with my pal Tim just to try and um get both of us
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sort of back up to speed of how to play it again so basically uh since the I I was saying I
45:38
was playing the the contents of Leviathan but then after the um did you realize you got the wrong game yeah
45:44
that's right I was saying we were playing the I was playing Leviathan and then um since
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the big points moves and so on um I've now had to I get to add a unit to I've now got a leviath and plus um a team of
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heavy intercessors and my mate has got uh Warriors as well so we're playing a
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little bit of thousand points that just to get used to it and then we'll uh get into it properly death guard are having
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a kip until the get a codex that's my answer nice Fair uh Pat oh if you were
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to start playing a new game what would it be hero Quest like a new miniature
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game I just yeah I've just got game could be anything football soccer soccer oh
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no uh I have no idea I don't have time to start a new game um what was if they
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were all painted for you and someone told you all the rules oh um so I think silver bayet sounds quite fun like oldie timey
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fight against weird stuff um that's like something something Skirmish based um
46:52
nice there is a question related to that which I'll come to in a bit cuz I want want to know so I can work it out uh
46:58
someone saying Peach after hearing you describe your game of blood ball I totally get why you didn't do it what would it take for you to give it another
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go uh playing with these guys and also probably when I get round to it doing the vampire counts team maybe yeah um I
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I it's not really now like because the game's bad it was just because the experience but I've heard so much good
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stuff about the game I just not got time i' got so much other stuff to do it's just like gets in the way really life
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gets in the way of having fun uh Ruby from raw one to explode will you be doing any more paint Army in X time
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speed paint videos well I'm sure we will we always like to do those don't we when the right Army comes along you probably
47:36
be the answer to that well we' got a sort of one that we're going to jam in which is like paint such and such a box
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set in a day uh cuz we've only got a day to film it yeah yeah it's probably more likely yeah probably more than a day but
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yeah it's a bit of fun uh could you do a video explain miniature photography and videography while explaining why each
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setting picked is you there's guides out there but rarely explain why you're doing the things we do not great for neurodivergent folks
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it's interesting like a video about photography and stuff like potentially um yeah I think that would be quite good
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I think like I I'd be apprehensive to say how like I film stuff because I I
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love getting camera bits and lenses and and I've been fortunate enough to have
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worked in videography for like almost 10 years so I've accumulated like I'm like oh here's this fancy lens
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because it's my job um so I'd be very reluctant to be like yeah so you just
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spend thousands of pounds on this and you get this light and then you get this result um so maybe it might be something
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like we look at doing um kind of like phone photography
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or doing it doing it cheaply or if you're looking to start a YouTube channel doing it this way and because I
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can literally show you how to get a cboard box get some soil out the garden some rocks some Moss a phone and then
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make a setup yes um yeah and then obviously upgrade it from there onwards
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for different levels and and I don't I don't think of myself as um like you
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know particularly amazing at shooting Miniatures like really um like the guys
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at Workshop that do all the cool stuff and they've got a smoke machine and and like I look at them and I'm like oh hell
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yeah I suppose like when you do it all day you I mean it's that imposter is it yeah yeah I get it yeah I mean I'm not
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even a good painter I'm just a Top Gun actor Top Gun actor Gary have you ever
49:35
seen a man eat his own head no then you have not seen everything we're going to say sorry Jeff
49:42
I was going to say the thing is if we want to do that dramatic thing one of us would have to take up vapon wouldn't we
49:47
oh yeah yes yeah yeah yeah and I I need to ask the landlord in here what the fire alarms are because if they're if
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they're heat based it means can in invest in a smoke machine or something or something along those lines um but
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then also you get that tradeoff with like oh this shot is amazing but like
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are you going to get more views than subscribers just because they're smoking a shot but then also you know it's nice
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to push yourself and do cool things there's a tradeoff I'd like to think our viewers aren't shallow enough to go good
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video but if I don't need a smoke machine yeah let us know in the comments they'll
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all go no no we really want to smoke with yeah yeah do it do it do it do it uh Ruby's asked lots of questions so I'm going to ask ask one more Ruby um and I
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there's one about will we ever do a convention maybe um what is your phas Fest faas Fest I like it I've already
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self-named it phas vest set phases to fun that's the tagline
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underne we just place now we've got the name we've got the tag marketing
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sorted logo there's an old bus depot not a million miles away from here that you
50:59
can host things up oh um yeah there's a chill well um because they they've done
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Arts i' I've been to it uh like there's a bus depot in chill World usually quite often they have like art craft uh things
51:12
um it might just be quite cold like I think it's quite like um rudimentary like a proper Victorian like be in be
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right in July though yes yeah in the summer yeah so apparently we don't know if we're doing one but we know where
51:24
it's going to be what month it's going to be and what the name is and what the tagline is going to be for it but whether we're doing what we don't
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know uh what is your favorite and most hated oh we're going to go with most hated not favorite what is your most hated
51:38
paint oh I don't I don't know if again like I don't know if I have strong enough opinions on on any paint I mean
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like corx White's like an easy one it's a lovely color but then like again like when when we were testing the the the
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Citadel paints and some of them were completely fresh we crack the seal and you're like oh it's just sludge um so so
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kind of like Citadel like fleshy light Rocky colors where I'm just
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like yeah but then you give them a good mix and then they're fine so I like I
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don't yeah this is me because it kind of maybe does matter uh I don't have a strong enough opinion I don't think I I
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hate any paint yeah uh Jeff you got one uh yeah because I love it and it is a pain to sort out when it decides it
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wants to fail and that is um oh God now I forgot the name of it I
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knew that would I the one that H you can use for for uh pale skin palad witch
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palad witch chalk yeah palad witch chalk yeah I do love it's a great color and it
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really works really well especially it's good for things like Dak and stuff like that a nice color but trying to get the
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D things to behave itself is a good alternative to that deep flesh and crime
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as well deepkin flesh is a slightly ever slightly greenier Hue but it's very close to to P wit chalk and it's less
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chalky mine is the same paint I love it and I hate it in equal measure oh which is black Legion I love black Legion cuz
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it covers really well and it's an amazing you have a downside to Black Legion I have to use it in every paint
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job I do and I'm running out of it so I have bought more pots of black Legion
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than any other pain have to use it all the time it's a victim of its own success
53:25
I love it but I have to use it and when it's like no of black even like some of the other amazing companies out there
53:32
that do amazing black colors it's just at the right consistency to like go over anything I don't have to thin it down
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and unless I want something really thick and it's rare I just do a couple of coats of it and it's fine it's just so solid and so well I'm I'm in the um I'm
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in the AK third gen black Camp oh yeah that's a good I I love that but the
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problem with black Legion is it dries the same so it's got a similar finish yeah but it's it's previlege to thin
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down which I suppose you could argue and someone in the comments has already put this it's like yeah but then you get
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more of AK because you don't thin that down you get more in the pop so you are right and it's
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cheaper oh no we should this is a video in its own right let's move
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on we'll we'll put notes that we'll do a SE the one I've got I like which I
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didn't ever intend to own but I'm I've I'm doing a commission for one of my customers is um of a of a
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1980s British army vehicle is AK black rubber no I love that yeah because you
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know what and what I've come to like it for is it's great for the rubber Bend sections and the Marines armor yeah it's
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I like black rubber accidental liable color yeah every I use it for ties so much now anything like rubber like UND
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suits perfect absolutely it's got like a bit of a brownie dirty brownie Hue to it hasn't it yeah I like it it's a good
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color Michael Bobby coming in it's more of a statement but I'm going to read it out anyway
54:56
always interesting there is a question it starts with a question sorry Mich I'm undervaluing you there but it does become a bit more of a statement but
55:02
that's fine do you think wart TV has lost its way I feel it's been all corporate and has moved away from the
55:08
community show that Rob Kerry and Wade helped build an audience for we don't get to chat to anyone anymore I'll be
55:14
honest it came around at exactly right point in my life it wasn't the community even yes sorry if it wasn't for the community even yes pichy generally might
55:21
not still be here now oh that's shocking uh sorry toar that uh I I'm not the only one that uh I'm not I know I'm not the
55:28
only one that uh that show really if and adly helped either it's a shame to see
55:33
it so sterile and corporate do I think it's lost its we absolutely without a doubt um it used to be a really good
55:40
Community engagement tool um you got people from the community would go on to the show as well that would be like B
55:46
reports or chats with like Wade or Carrie or Rob um there were some great
55:52
battle reports that were done on live there was some great like just fun fun activities fun things that were done
55:59
quiz shows we used to do um and then it became like we're going to talk to you
56:04
and this is what I had to do it was so dull and I'm going to say it was dull we're going to sit and talk to you on a Friday about the stuff that you can read
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on warcom that's that but they've already cool so we're just going to resay the
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stuff that's on warcom yes a bit of a shame yeah it's like can we not do something a bit more like
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maybe paint some stuff up and like get excited play a game about some of the stuff that's on warcom Noe just talk
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about what's on there okay cool awesome well let's hope that we've gone some way to replace it without sounding like a
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some sort of bigheaded thing but you know well we we I mean I'm definitely uh
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keep keeping the old capitalize the word question yeah yeah when you were streaming yeah yeah CU it's easy you
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know it's a good Tool uh but yeah so um hopefully as as we get more organized
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well I say organized we are organized but bigger we get the game area sort out we might do some more stuff with live as
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as time goes on in whatever capacity that is maybe you know every every Thursday is hero Quest day and you don't
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get a choice you don't get a choice whether that's remote or not I'm just going to move your figures for you and if you're not there have
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cardboard cut outs of our faces what was that Jeff you want to go into the room okay mate I'm sure I did a cardboard cut
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out for like Duncan or Wade one day because they couldn't make it I'm sure I did I I still remember making my Abad in
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the dis spoiler or um obsidious Malik top knot I don't if you ever saw it no I got a load of like tissue paper cut it
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into strips and then got a kitchen roll um tube great painted it red made it look like it was like wrapped top knot
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and then just got those like strings of tissue and stuck it on my head I used to wear uh I miss those days um but yeah do
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you do you from your experience of War TV I um I I didn't I wasn't in the hobby when
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like it started so I don't don't know how good it was so to speak um I guess
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like I don't know if it's Nest necessarily lost its way cuz I don't know like where it was in the beginning
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I guess like the the live streaming
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um seems like yeah like you say it's it's kind of like the um oh you're
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having a bit of a m with that aren maybe because I'm sat on it's on me knee and I need a a little punch thing put the
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whole should be done on the table I prese yeah I like it um yeah it's it's
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part of a big business that is like I guess it is going to be a bit corporate and stuff and you just yeah maybe it was
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like uh perhaps you know making it all up but was like better like you say like I don't know I don't really have an
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opinion so I'm going to defer to what you said age with thing Jan lock down even before lockdown I think because it
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is a corporation it is a business having that sort of human element yeah and sort
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of friendly face of it was important yeah and removing that I think has made it become that business corporate sort
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of soulless entity again yes that was always the case that people CU because for a long time people were like Games
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Workshop soulless then they did started doing like engagement the community started doing the paint video starting have a Facebook account again it was
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like this is amazing carry on with this it's like yeah people like this let's do this and they did it really well for a few years and then just went H this just
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going to about to being faces and soulless again yes yeah like the faces are back in the uh painting tutorials
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aren't they they they have like a a human human introduction you see and
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human um and then and then it goes to kind of like the the the hands and the painting and this that and the other so
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like I guess the formats Chang but it's it's nice to have a person to connect with and and um and that kind of thing
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uh so like they probably well I guess you know like when when you and Duncan were sort of like at the at the
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Forefront of it you know they would probably sell more if it's a person that they know and they can say I really like
1:00:02
this this is great this is fantastic um or what have you I guess the the key
1:00:07
with that is was not to be too fake with it as well if you liked it you lik it if I didn't like it I just didn't talk about it yeah yeah get get someone else
1:00:14
to say like it because they like pacher we need to go on to talk about adept's titanicus I know nothing about it I don't care for it guess someone that
1:00:20
knows what they're talking about oh we can't well you're not going to get much quality out of the uh
1:00:25
or I guess like CU there could be something to be said for if if it was adep adep titanicus to come out and you
1:00:32
did do a video for it and you were like I've never done this before let's see what it's like and and that I think
1:00:39
would make a really interesting video because somebody watching it that's never done it before will be like I can
1:00:44
connect with that person we've got something in common yeah um both new yeah but then I guess as a company Games
1:00:51
Workshop wouldn't they'd never do that no cuz there's a fear that's might not fully like it like not 100% but if it's
1:00:58
90% that's bad R all it's fine you know they I guess they want to be seen as the industry leaders and the experts
1:01:04
and I mean yeah there was yeah there's a few times I don't know pressing the point now but yeah a few times it's was like yeah your job is to to promote I'm
1:01:11
like yeah but if I can't get behind the thing you probably want to get someone that can yeah because I don't know what I'm talking about uh and that just looks
1:01:18
fake to ask every someone just cuz you work at a company that you can you move your microphone back Jeff sorry to
1:01:25
apologize they accept someone who work there to accept them expect them to be able to do every bit of every hobby it's
1:01:32
just real unrealistic isn't it what we found in retail is like you had like people that were good at like certain systems or certain armies and you get
1:01:38
them to talk to the people oh certain s wants to know about Imperial Guard pachy go and talk to about Imperial Guard okay
1:01:44
yeah like reading reading off forom is a very safe thing to do and that's I guess
1:01:50
has its own merits for the business and I think the problem being is though I think as well is the fact devil Advocate by the way is that but customers aren't
1:01:57
idiots no and if they think you don't play it or don't know it they can tell a mile away yeah yeah yeah that's
1:02:02
something I've definitely discovered early on is like you you might be able to persuade like some people here and
1:02:08
there with like your opinions but there's a lot of people out there that are F more intelligent and can see right through it and just like no yeah it's
1:02:14
like the whole curs city thing yeah Workshop thought it would been clever to not talk about it everyone saw through
1:02:19
it everyone saw it was just like a stupid move just just be honest we'll be fine just explain going off so just talk
1:02:25
about it that was the thing it was like if you just explained yeah we'd know but it was like no we're not going to engage
1:02:30
we're not going to talk not going to talk like with with Tom explaining fine cast and stuff like that like that was
1:02:36
just engage of it yeah if it had said like oh tough times load of people are losing their jobs we trying to do this
1:02:41
like that that would have been like people would have been a lot more understanding I would imagine more
1:02:46
people would appreciate whether they agreed or not cuz some people I mean even me I still don't like it I think it
1:02:52
was a stupid move and that's what I'm glad it happened like I said in the previous chat because I got into kit bashing a lot more and I'm thankful for
1:02:58
that um and a few others have mentioned it as well that like yeah they got them into kit bashing chat some people on
1:03:04
Instagram in the weekend they're like yeah thank God for fine cast I want have Kit bashed plastic kits if it wasn't for that so uh speaking of which um thank
1:03:13
you Tyler mangle Tyler mangle mangle Miniatures works for Army painter now I didn't know this until recently he was
1:03:19
saying because we're talking about Lord of the Rings figures um they're all fine cast he managed to go to the shop recently and some of them are still in
1:03:25
metal so I'm going to make a redaction on my comment saying everything's fine cast it's not there are some metal kits
1:03:31
but I don't know what they are I don't know I don't know if it's a gamble if it's like old stock before it's fine
1:03:36
casted or not but would would you have to go in person and shake the Box you would be able to feel it you'll be a to feel the weight there's a difference in
1:03:42
weight yeah so um but you have to find one that is find cast and one that isn't but but yeah so there are still some
1:03:49
metal kits out there uh Sam is asking what's the best way to introduce a friend to the Hobby
1:03:54
any thoughts um I think I think go to the school of peach prepare and paint
1:04:01
everything um and then say oh just just come along and we'll do this and then
1:04:06
and then if they have fun and they go oh I really enjoyed that what would I need to do this and you be like oh well I've
1:04:12
got these teams maybe or or like like with necromunda like you just like pick the one that you think looks the coolest
1:04:17
yeah um and and that kind of thing I think I think that's probably if you want to be a gateway drug to get your
1:04:23
friends into to uh tabletop gaming something nice and straightforward like if somebody plays a board game You' be
1:04:29
like this is a board game but the tokens are like barbarians um then that's it's kind of you know you want like a bridge
1:04:36
not a bridge game yeah a bridge game yeah I think yeah I think sometimes as well especially Games Workshop because
1:04:41
one of the the big parts of it is so how iconic and and interesting is the the
1:04:48
imagery yeah you go look how cool them guys are and you go oh they look really good you go you can play them as a team
1:04:56
army whatever it is you know I think it's is a quite you know I think it's quite a cool way of doing it isn't it I
1:05:01
think you know yeah yeah definitely think like yeah if you if you you are the person wants to get a friend in if you got both sides painted or just both
1:05:08
sides built on the different colors um and you just teach them the rules and have fun that's great yeah um a few
1:05:14
people keep asking me like don't crush them no don't crush them yeah let make it fun yeah absolutely and that's the
1:05:20
reason why we used to do the intros and make them win because it feels fun if you Christmas it's like puts you off
1:05:25
playing the game whereas if you won the game I know it sounds really sort of like like psychologically bad it's it's
1:05:31
not it just gets people into it but as long as this and I guess for like new
1:05:36
people coming to the Hobby they don't know you they don't they're not aware of the world so you give them the win
1:05:41
because then it feels good but when you're playing with matze you don't really care about who wins it as long as you're telling the story and a bit of
1:05:47
fun yeah but yeah a lot of people have been asking me lately like what's the best way to get in war cry and I'm like
1:05:52
the star sets aren't as good as the original Star sets but they're a bit more accessible in cost like crypto blood is like you get four figures on
1:05:59
either side and a handful of scenery but you get all the instructions and rules that's a good thing and I keep forgetting oh the rules are free on
1:06:05
warcom the companions are free on warcom what do you like the look of just pick an on you like the look off because you
1:06:10
can literally do anything because all the rules and all the fighter cards are free so um so if you can if it's war cry
1:06:17
get them into war cry uh
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uh MC floss which non-games Workshop games are you most interested in and who
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smells the nicest in the group that's two questions MC floss it's naughty
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cheeky cheeky non Games Workshop game uh most interested in currently AO request
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oh very good yeah see uh oh I don't know maybe like yeah I've mentioned uh
1:06:44
earlier that a game I'd like to try would would have been Silver B so I guess I'll stick to that yeah
1:06:51
yeah what you being for a treat um I don't know if it was n Games Workshop I
1:06:57
do you know I left it and I've always still constantly found me keeping me eye on it is if I had to go back into
1:07:03
another game it' probably go back to Infinity again I think I've always know one I I sto all the rest but one of
1:07:11
those ones every time a miniature new miniature release s get you know scans past me I I have to go back and have a
1:07:17
bit of a look to see where it's all at so I must be interested and it's still on some level such a good game yeah yeah
1:07:23
yeah yeah interesting good uh who smells the best Bella oh yeah good sh
1:07:29
especially sh came back from the groomers On th he smells quite nice I mean we all smell like yeah yeah
1:07:35
yeah yeah it's it's quite funny I smell like the one who takes a dump in the Park yeah oh the Christmas Market it was the
1:07:42
Christmas Market in sponding at the weekend right and there was like a dog stand for like dog treats and I'm sure it smell of dog poo and I was like is it
1:07:49
just like was they TR cuz certain like dog foods just hum yeah they like py as
1:07:55
heck um and I was like it might be a dog treat but it sounds like someone's just taking a dump in the corner sounds
1:08:02
sounds like it my six sense be really bad um yeah yeah yeah yeah Bella always
1:08:09
Bella yeah good CH diplomatic answer what M about Jer told you does Jeff and
1:08:15
Patrick have won or have rode one before have you ever ridden motorcycle before yeah I used Tri motor quite a lot when
1:08:20
was in the milry what what was it my own personal was the bike that used to ride in the military do you remember oh well
1:08:26
we had a I oh the actual name of it I don't know but our military bike was uh
1:08:32
Harley davson oh right that's cool cuz we used to have um just going like chilling out low rider into into the the
1:08:40
British army motorbike used to be something called an Armstrong and eventually apparently the
1:08:45
parts were becoming more and more difficult for them to source so in the end they just did away with it and they
1:08:50
um took on the American Army bike being the Harley Dav bike kind of thing yeah
1:08:56
yeah yeah like a cross country bike yeah I just imagine um it does look like a Harley davidon yeah I just imagine a
1:09:02
chopper with like Min guns attached to this would be good as long as you
1:09:07
didn't have to take it off tarmac You' be all right with they're all there with like the sleeveless leather waist coat Cally I am which was cool is I um keep
1:09:15
up on my um on thing activities that my regiment are doing and at the moment
1:09:21
they're triing for the reconnaissance team they're trialing um electric cross
1:09:27
country bikes cuz they don't make any noise so the idea able to get Clos to the ad have a bit of a look at what's
1:09:32
going on and you can hear what's going off as well you it's quite cool so yeah I can ride the motorbike yeah I haven't
1:09:38
many a year the only time I've ever written a ridden a motorbike uh was when
1:09:45
I was in six form uh one of my friends at the time had one and uh he lived in
1:09:50
like a tiny village uh somewhere near penrith in cumber if anyone knows where that is um and he was like oh just go on
1:09:58
and have a have a go like you'll figure it out and and I I'll say I didn't I didn't I didn't crash it I I'll start
1:10:05
the story by saying that but um I tell you because I spent my entire Childs uh
1:10:10
riding push bikes and being like these are both breakes yeah one one being a
1:10:15
clutch just like really threw me off um and I hopefully not literally no no and
1:10:21
I got started and I wobbled around like nobody's business turned around came back and went yeah I don't like that I'm
1:10:27
never doing it again I once got Liz on my old my first bike don't worry Liz I'm not going to embarrass you uh but I
1:10:34
remember uh she she she's ping been on the B loads of times but I remember
1:10:39
first going on it and all I can hear is a squealing all the up the
1:10:45
road don't think she enjoyed the process very much uh but she came back she didn't drop it good job go start isn't
1:10:52
it uh I'll come back to that one in a second Tim at puzzled care we've seen riam and Peach what would Jeff and
1:10:59
Patrick's neonic alter egos be cuz this could influence what I paint up for
1:11:04
silver bayet I would um I would be one of those little drummer boys at the front who would just get
1:11:12
shot yeah we are we talking French British Austrian Russian Spanish You're
1:11:18
British probably you're British okay so being yellow just s out like s just be yeah there oh there's one to wait for
1:11:25
bang oh he was as useless as he was at drumming like I don't know probably
1:11:31
electric guitar wasn't invented then laughing youve not seen sharp oh yeah
1:11:37
thank you very much that's a famous documentary of the time yes yeah true
1:11:43
forgot about that yeah the theme song is being being played by the the the military band just off
1:11:52
camera with their electric guitars come on Jeff get your history I forgot about
1:11:57
that so I would I would be a terrible Bard who would die a terrible Bard who would die what about you Jeff would I
1:12:03
quite like the idea of being a very heavy mustachioed um Prussian oh yeah
1:12:09
you know where a really big on a fancy pipe yeah yeah yeah would you be Cavalry infantry artillery well I've got to be
1:12:15
honest I don't know what you know more than me on this but um I've always been quite fond of a Cavalry jacket okay yeah
1:12:22
yeah you know worn off the shoulder yeah yeah so that that would be the H and You' be a h police and that and the uh
1:12:27
always the uh cuz they I know because of the sitting position on the horse but was the uh the cool thing wasn't it was
1:12:34
the where the Cavalry was a a Lo a l lung sword yeah yeah little carine as
1:12:42
over Only Over Me shoulders yeah I think that's me yeah although dread think to size the horse but yeah I think that I
1:12:48
now know what silver bayet faction I'm making for Jeff which is the prussians and I'll do like a big beardy
1:12:54
uh hust officer with a pipe yeah I could a hack and cough if for
1:13:02
going near tobacco amazing so you're going to be a
1:13:08
drummer boy and you're going to be a Cav officer for the prussians I it uh
1:13:13
recream wraith also name as Matt what's your best theories on the missing
1:13:18
primarch well one is I Mike can I chuck mine in I think both of mine are in the same universe which is the universe of
1:13:26
Conan called hiboria one is known as red Sonia and one is known as Conan they are
1:13:31
the missing primarch the missing primar Primark oh that's contentious well that's where all the female Marines have
1:13:36
gone oh that makes sense yeah that's why they the emperor's like oh I've lost all my daughters oh no red Sonia I'm not
1:13:44
going to mess with her Cu uh she's quite a feisty feisty daughter and daddy knows
1:13:50
best so I'll leave her to just you know do her thing and Conan he's just an idiot so I leave him to do his thing as
1:13:56
well Sonia can sort him out uh so uh that's that's where they went in my mind
1:14:02
to hiboria which was a small Rift in warp that took to a different realm okay
1:14:09
okay have you any opinions on this um no not really where are they um where are
1:14:15
they they're sitting in the back of a cupboard waiting for a new way for Games Workshop to make money he's cic but probably
1:14:25
true that's that's very true yeah yeah I think that's the most realistic option
1:14:31
um I when are we going to release that game that's just called Primark oh yeah I mean maybe you think
1:14:38
that's yeah it could be well that's what the redacted uh thing is but probably not um I think it has to be because half
1:14:46
of them fell to chaos but we still know about them so it has to be something more horrific than chaos so I reckon two
1:14:53
of them were like Father father cereal is a soup and then he killed them I actually
1:15:00
have a real Theory oh right I uh I think they're clones of the emperor
1:15:06
Ah that's what I think interesting which is why they're redacted so no one knows
1:15:12
but no one knows where they are so they can't replace him cuz he did it in Cas for an event cuz he could see into the
1:15:17
future couldn't he he had the gift of forite I believe so I could be making this up but um sure he was able to CU
1:15:25
that's why he did certain things but then yeah maybe he could because chaos is trickery and obviously gave the wrong
1:15:30
impression this I'm sure he had like the gift of for or something like that I like the idea that maybe they just went what he hoped where one said father I
1:15:37
think the best way for us to beat chaos is through interpretive modern Dan
1:15:44
yeah yeah I've had enough of your Arts pick up this gun
1:15:52
yeah um yeah oh just like failed failed
1:15:57
experiments yeah just Abominations yeah yeah one of them out there looks like uh
1:16:03
I can't remember his name but remember the big the big uh the big fell in Goonies oh sloth yeah there's one of
1:16:09
them like one of them still knocking around in a dungeon somewhere yeah oh right okay yeah from the the Deep South
1:16:15
yeah with a he's got a Bolter and a chainsaw but they already made out of wood he's like um he's like um do you
1:16:23
Steve Martin's uh Steve Martin's uh fake character in um dirty Bon Scoundrels r
1:16:32
no where they had to Michael Kane's character is trying to coax this woman
1:16:37
into giving him loads of money but then the idea was she the idea is that she once he's got got her he'll get rid of
1:16:43
by introducing her his brother who's meant to have serious like um mental
1:16:49
health problems and he's like he's going she's like why is he got a why is is eating with a a Coke on the end of his
1:16:54
fork and Steve B just puts it in his eye goes with a great line he says excuse me
1:17:00
he says may I goes to the toilet and Michael King goes yes of course and he goes thank
1:17:06
you maybe that's what one of the the other some you don't take to parties
1:17:12
yeah nice uh mael is asking when are we releasing the next neck on video or did
1:17:17
that campaign die already we played it all behind closed doors yeah we just we played it it
1:17:23
teasing you uh we had a great time question for all ooh oh question for all
1:17:29
this is from Rich mcferson so myself been somewhat of a burger officio I've worked for a multi a multi award winning
1:17:36
both domestic and abroad and current UK best burger 2023 you're just pitching yourself
1:17:42
there said this in Richard mcferson so this is uh I think I think this is on on
1:17:48
Twitch is spindle shank because when we were streaming on Wednesday uh yeah we
1:17:53
were chatting about burgers and about where he works yeah he's asking what is your ideal Burger Pat the floor is open okay I'm
1:18:01
going I'm going straight in I'm a simple man um with simple tastes yeah uh Burger
1:18:09
blue cheese oh and you know you can kind of that has to be the staple put
1:18:15
whatever bread don't care like bit of lettuce whatever but Burger blue cheese
1:18:20
nice done love it Jeffrey I called
1:18:25
Jeffrey for me um just building it myself from the ingredients of Five Guys
1:18:34
is for me just have the options to just put some just some bacon on it some nice cheese eight patties eight eight patties
1:18:43
of course you know oh yeah lunch time yeah bacon on Burger is great bacon burger I just like the Simplicity I this
1:18:51
thing you know I I sometimes you ends up stuck at McDonald's and I go oh my wife went and drive-thru for like going back
1:18:56
to Liverpool or coming back and she'll go what do you want I go oh whatever beg with the month is and I'm always disappointed I think just being able to
1:19:03
make just a nice cheese and bacon burger out of out of five guys that does me
1:19:09
that was good I think for me it will be had too many flavors sorry you had too many flavors you just lose them yeah
1:19:16
that's true that's true I mean I'm going to be selfish in M of all the flavors uh only CU I can break it up into smaller
1:19:22
bit yeah um so my uh my my ideal Burger cuz I like egg right is to have bash bun I
1:19:29
like bash bun yeah base Burger egg fried egg yeah burger fried egg burger fried
1:19:37
egg so three burgers three fried eggs burger cheese top K Wow I like egg it would look like
1:19:46
a like to follow you inant L with that many eggs in you I love egg I mean yeah
1:19:52
um so I think I think I'd eat any Burger anything that I have to disassemble to
1:19:58
eat annoys me with a burger that's failed begger in my opinion yeah so if I can pick it up and take a bite out of it
1:20:05
I think that for me is like a minimum I will tell you an extra reason for that and this is a this is a problem we both
1:20:11
share is once your beger gets too big and you're reasonbly beaded yeah it
1:20:16
becomes a bit of a Horror Story yeah oh yeah just saving it for later yeah yeah
1:20:21
well it's a store cover is it that's what I always thought beards were yeah yeah it's stalker yeah flavor I
1:20:27
call mine the flavor saver I I've got to be honest I hate if
1:20:33
anything ends up in I know you go we just don't have a big beard then you maniac but anything with a G ends up on
1:20:38
me beard I got a be freaked out by it CU it's like CU yours is a three story sori isn't it three
1:20:47
story might might be the name of me sexy oh God
1:20:54
oh no oh speaking of Wich oh that's the next question de um the painting phase
1:21:00
erotic fanfiction would comprise mostly of what and how many instances of sharp camos would there
1:21:07
be fanction fanfiction erotica I'm not even going to go I tell you what that's for that's for the fans to if you write
1:21:14
your own then self we can't we we we would never assume to know what the fans
1:21:20
like the most so they have to put that drop it drop it in the comments yeah
1:21:27
yeah Moss for some reason I can't load the rest it's still loading but Brent M has come in with which guard regimen
1:21:33
would each of you belong to and how would you die in the 41st Millennium
1:21:39
well obviously I'd be a ventrillian noble uh of course and ventrillian Noble is are renowned for their ability to do
1:21:45
glorious close combat with swords their high class fences uh not as in like
1:21:50
building wooden fences for people's Gardens that's a different kind of high class fencer uh but they they will you
1:21:56
know Jewel the're jewelist they're good with as Vander as well as a sword as well as a Rapier as as a dagger um I
1:22:02
will be killed by melting myself on a plasma gun that's how I die yeah cuz I I just
1:22:07
overcharged it classic just be two smoking boots I I would be um I don't
1:22:14
specifically know what regiment so um pick a color that you like the look of
1:22:20
yeah because I don't want to be like oh because I I just think of myself as as generally useless I'm trying to think of
1:22:26
the drummer boy version of I I would be well it be a pay player and the tanith
1:22:31
thing cuz the tanith are really cool and I'm not that cool so I I would be the
1:22:37
comm's operator um and and they not like Guy the one the one that has the stuff
1:22:45
all over him you know there's a joy toy of that they Rel s or you I literally like
1:22:52
come on um I'd I'd be that guy um so like they
1:22:57
don't really trust me with a gun yeah um just be like right just just wear this
1:23:02
and stand out the way and then um so I'd be I'd be like receiving a
1:23:08
transmission uh which would be like keep your head down boys the Orcs are sending a volley and I'd be like I I terrible
1:23:15
reception let me St bang and I'd stand up and get my head blown off yeah so when the said they're
1:23:22
equipped and you have a cannon you were expecting something very different you just got an old 3D printer
1:23:28
yeah uh what about you Jeff what would you do I would be uh again because of the facial hair I'd be a vran yes yeah
1:23:34
yeah and I would be killed because I wouldn't realize that when I was squatting be behind a low wall to have a
1:23:40
crap my really large hat was still seen above it which is where your brain is yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah shot whilst
1:23:47
having a poo sh worst way worst way yeah oh go yeah I her horrific quick if I do
1:23:54
tell her when I was in the Army story a quick horrific when I was in the Army story we were under we were under
1:24:01
nuclear biological chemical condition so I'm wearing my special suit that you wear over your ordinary clothes yeah
1:24:08
yeah okay and it has a really it's almost like clown trousers the waist of them are enormous so they can fit anyone
1:24:15
what you do is you fold them in on themselves and then they have like a belt that goes around and so one size basically fits all oh right cuz you we
1:24:22
in your normal cloths underneath it and one day I had to go for a poo while wearing army gear and I went to where we
1:24:28
have the pit and I pull my trousers down I pull my Nuclear me NBC trousers down
1:24:33
give the short name I pull them down and I have my poo and then I pick the Spade
1:24:39
up to cover the Poo for the next person there's no poo to be seen and then realized that poo in the back of the
1:24:47
NBC which I immediately then just took off and buried
1:24:54
and the problem being is unlike now unlike now they used to be green so they
1:24:59
went camouflage they were like this weird green car so when I went running back to my trench and jumped into it me
1:25:06
mate went where's your trousers cuz I'm now in camouflage trousers my my normal
1:25:11
trousers and I went just past me cuz you got multiples of it it's like vacuum packed like just passed me another pair
1:25:17
of trousers and never asked
1:25:23
oh no oh soy and d and having a poo I think it's probably fitting for I love
1:25:28
that I love that uh so a few more how how many more should we should we ask a
1:25:33
handful more yeah yeah do a few more few more so Reay Bellion as YouTubers gain influence and importance they run an
1:25:39
increasing risk become corrupted by the power they yield when do you expect it
1:25:45
when do you expect it to happen to you and to which chaos God will you succumb at that point I hope it never happens
1:25:51
but I'll be sles it ever happens but I'll be really
1:25:57
quickly yes uh no I mean yeah that's my answer yeah okay I think I'm going to go
1:26:04
with what I think would be the worst um version of it um so I think once we
1:26:12
hit 100,000 subscribers yes that's when soon please that's when I'm going to I'm
1:26:18
never going to introduce myself to anyone again okay because they should know I am yes yeah um and and then I'll
1:26:26
be like and I'll say cuz I think I hate it I utterly utterly hate it um if people have enough of an ego that
1:26:33
they're like don't you know who I am I've experienced that a few times yeah and and I would just like well the real
1:26:39
question is are you worth knowing like like if you don't know you don't know yeah so um I'm going to I'm going to to
1:26:47
truly become what I hate I'm going to become one of those people so I'm don't you know who I am um what God would that
1:26:53
be um oh uh that probably be sles SL AR sles yeah like Emperor be an your backup
1:27:01
one would be to cuz you then you could um you could come in a KNE B gear and You' never have to take it off cuz you'd just be sand inside
1:27:08
yeah yeah all is dust yeah all dust make sure you keep your bu then think of all
1:27:13
that basing material you got for free yeah amazing he took his helmet off yeah
1:27:20
just part of all our model from now on yeah yeah yeah I mean they they do you
1:27:25
know who I am think I've had a couple of times where I've like done a couple of on to ones which is really bizarre so like Scott from Alaska and he was like I
1:27:32
had no idea who you were before I I joined the painting phase te I was like why did you you you don't know who I am
1:27:38
which is fine by the way and you randomly want this guy you don't know to teach you how to paint and you prepared to pay money for that you're mad yeah
1:27:44
that's brilliant that shows you how much you how good you thought your videos were maybe yeah absolutely I think for
1:27:50
me um I have some a absolutely godamn awful road rage I'm terrible for it so I
1:27:57
think um I think behind the wheel I'm definitely corn yeah yeah yeah yeah I I
1:28:04
just I'll just get my head would get swell too much well maybe it's nurgle mixing with slanesh here cuz the
1:28:11
arrogance but then all the swelling but then that's also slanesh thing all the swelling
1:28:17
is yeah Road road rage so for me My slogan would be if I was Cor corn would
1:28:23
be um mobility scooters for the mobility scooter Throne there we
1:28:28
go like it you should make a electric scooters for the electric scooter yeah
1:28:35
yeah that needs to be a new uh Kickstarter pack that you need to make absolutely right yeah definitely that's
1:28:41
what I'm going to do with me car for G if I get around to playing gas lands it's just going to have little electric bad than it fantastic road rage
1:28:50
uh oh okay right so random dude uh your hair is always looking good working under the assumption that you don't run
1:28:56
around like a hobo outside of podcast filming how long do you guys spend on your hair daily that includes facial
1:29:01
hair peachy I don't spend any time on my hair I used to have hair Believe It or Not we've seen the photos we' seen
1:29:08
photos yeah you seen the uh the weird sort of like the one that you've G given to the brush lickers uh thanks for that
1:29:14
oh you're going to have you're going to have a good evening cuz they're great I can't wait but it's like one I don't
1:29:19
know who took the photo two why does like it's from a catalog it's an amazing photo I think it's brilliant it is from
1:29:26
a catalog did you not know no it must be like showcasing the new play plaid what you want to call it but yeah I used to
1:29:32
spend a bit of time on my hair and then I'd put me motorcycle helmet get to College University or work then go crap
1:29:38
cuz it's like just B weird contortion so I'm glad I don't have to do anything it's great yeah your your routine for
1:29:46
well for me because obviously it's my job I can um I can get my hair looking quite reasonable in about 5 6 minutes
1:29:55
the key for those who need to know the key to getting your hairstyle to look cool it's not the product it's using the
1:30:01
hair dryer well the product just seals the work that see I do
1:30:07
that that's what you're going wrong bruise on one side of your head
1:30:12
yeah using the haird dryer well when your hair's damp blast it into the shape you want the product's only there to seal the work not to create the work
1:30:21
yeah cuz I I use I I generally use a hairspray and I I I left mine in a
1:30:26
Travel Lodge last week oh no um so I need to buy some more which is kind of I've used these headphones to style my
1:30:33
hair to like keep it back well the problem I have is Monday is the only day for me to go and get a haircut oh and
1:30:40
because it's when we record it's it's very kind of you to
1:30:46
offer yeah it's a thought that counts it's the same haircut I give my son so you'll be fine yeah
1:30:52
um so but now we've moved I'm quite far away from me barber so I don't never know when I'm going to get another hair that's I'm going a cap today cuz hair
1:31:00
past its best yeah yeah what's what's your beard routine um my beard routine
1:31:06
is when it gets round and I'm thinking I'm skipping dangerously close to looking like Santa I shave the sides
1:31:12
down short and then I take the bottom off it yeah and that's it yeah cuz I I I um I guess yeah similar to yourself like
1:31:18
I'm currently commuting if the if the traffic's good uh half an hour each way uh and then
1:31:25
you're closer to yeah my flat where I live but then I'm going to be moving closer to the studio very soon uh so I'm
1:31:32
like oh he SP so people are like oh Pat you're growing your beard really long and it's like not through Choice um I'm
1:31:38
surrounded by Civil War generals right now um and it's mainly my my floppy
1:31:44
usually my rule is if my my hair comes over my ears uh then that's when I need
1:31:50
to go in and that was like oh well over a month ago like told you told me I'll just bring the gear here put give you
1:31:56
airut while you're at work but the um I saw at uh a wedding um the because
1:32:03
usually I go to like Bridal prep and usually it's just ladies getting ready uh like traditionally but they had a
1:32:09
bride's man um and he had a very straight cut like beard and he had a
1:32:14
heated beard comb and I was like oh I love that so I bought one recently um
1:32:21
and I think they're great yeah but then if I'm using that and then I'm like oh I don't want to damage like my hair with
1:32:28
heat so do I have to put beard oil on it now or like some kind of moisturizer or something stop it getting heat damaged
1:32:34
what a recipe for just more products I don't really want to get into that so uh I don't know five minutes hair dryer
1:32:41
hairspray done yeah there we go uh big blue Luke like the idea of
1:32:46
monthly or quarterly Q&A thanks Jin would you guys ever consider doing a painting phase live show at a venue so I
1:32:53
went to Griffon last year and they suggested potentially doing something like that next year whenever that is
1:32:59
being April time May time um they like Banning the idea of like it be cool to do like a live chat show kind of thing
1:33:05
at their venue so to do that um I guess yeah I mean we can organize that ourselves at some point an event phon
1:33:13
face Fest face Fest sorry F con is when we go to the states yeah F con is when
1:33:18
we go to the states yeah yeah but yeah definitely be $100 a
1:33:25
ticket this is a tough one uh I have to think about this Keith winkvist uh win
1:33:32
wiist I always get your name wrong I'm so sorry uh favorite Christmas present you ever received everyone my wife
1:33:40
buys good I've got mine immediately actually um it was and I remember cuz I
1:33:48
like my my mom loves the outdoors U I should have said that earlier with like oh what your hobbies like I enjoy
1:33:54
walking and and being outside I grew up like in the Lake District or very close to the Lake District I say late District
1:34:00
because everyone knows where it is um but in Cumbria uh which is like the boob the boob of England at the top um so
1:34:09
yeah love walking um and I at the time cuz my friends were getting like gaming
1:34:15
consoles and stuff like that uh I and I had to like really beg for it and I was like no it is really good exercise for
1:34:21
you thumbs um and I got an N64 with golden eye like all packaged together
1:34:29
wow um and uh yeah I I love the N64 I
1:34:34
still think it's it's amazing and I'm I'm still really good at Mario Kart oh that's good to know got it for I have a
1:34:40
switch now me and my girlfriend play yeah three star all 150 cc races
1:34:46
yeah uh I quickly CH my give you a bit more time I'm going to go pre uh
1:34:52
wife just so there's no offense at all throwing there she won't be offended I'm just just in case you know I get the
1:34:58
wrong present um she I didn't buy you that oh maybe I bought it myself uh I'd
1:35:04
say zero I know we I've mentioned it before and War Daddy was like oh my God zero I had that for Christmas when I was
1:35:09
a kid and I played that to death for a decade even when I was like 16 I shouldn't be playing with TOS like that
1:35:15
it was amazing a Zer hour was a big box set they they did lots of um little
1:35:20
upgrade sets basically Toy Soldiers okay um and you had different branches of the army there was the bad is called the bad
1:35:27
Brigade nice and simple oh remember you tell me about didn't they drive didn't you say they drove like ice cream trucks with guns there was all sorts there was
1:35:33
a school bus uh and the windows flopped down and guns came out there was a hearse which had
1:35:39
a motorcycle in the back of it there was a pizza delivery bike trike which then flapped out and had Rockets there was
1:35:46
loads of those which I can't remember um but yeah the they are different color plastic for the different forces so the
1:35:52
BG were purple and then you had like the Rangers which were like green the Army which were like tan then you had the Air
1:35:58
Force the Navy um there was all sorts but the set I had had a monor rail and
1:36:04
it was like an AA or two AA batteries wow and it would just go around and you can just stop it at things and load it up and stuff like that but you got like
1:36:11
I think nine or 10 figures uh was like a bunch then like three Heroes but you
1:36:16
have like sitting down poses so you can put some in the vehicles and all the vehicles have those little like spring loaded shooter things each other so good
1:36:25
used to play that I'm going to look that up cuz great yeah only from I've never seen it but I know it from when you've
1:36:31
mentioned it previously and I think what um inspired me to get into scenery making was they in the book they had
1:36:36
like a diarama setup of all the things painted oh brilliant and there was like a sort of a mountain lake with like a
1:36:43
waterfall with all the bases added around it and it was all like moss and like I guess um cork bark and stuff like
1:36:50
that but it was just modeled and I used to look at that for years going I want to paint like that I want to make boards like that it was so good I think that
1:36:56
inspired me to do what I did so that's me uh I think for me it
1:37:03
was my Star Wars atat ooh from the original figures I think was probably
1:37:09
mine yeah that was pretty special because as a smaller child it was a
1:37:15
really big toy you know it was bigger than the dog we owned at the time so that was probably yeah that was probably
1:37:22
mine I think yeah the original uh the original the original would that have been Kenna it would have been wouldn't
1:37:27
it the original Kenna I think would probably been mine yeah my brothers threw theirs on the bonfire
1:37:34
no I was still playing with it was until we moved I was like where's that gun oh it melted we watched it melt insane
1:37:42
idiots never for probably worth a few Bob that oh quite a
1:37:47
few and it been and I know it was it's a very different toy book it did make me
1:37:52
very slightly weep when uh a couple of Christmases ago me and me and Haley were in uh in London for my 50th birthday and
1:37:59
uh I went into the Lego shop and they had the new Lego at and it was so amazing and it was the thing that most
1:38:06
made me feel like getting the original one when I looked at but I thought 750 quids a bit Rich for my
1:38:14
blood if you leave it leave it unboxed and manage and if you manage to sell it before like the next one comes out in
1:38:20
like six years time you could double your money you I think they actually get more expensive when the new sets come out oh really yeah they're not making it
1:38:27
any all Lego is limited so as far as an investment opportunity goes it's really good yeah I remember reading about it it
1:38:34
quite surprised cool uh we have uh one about uh primarch alterate timeline in
1:38:41
40K the hary never happened no primar ever felt to cows in all 18 are still kicking around with their Legions the emperor has been has still been mortally
1:38:47
wounded how I don't know and is upon the Golden Throne a sign roles to each primar regarding the overall
1:38:53
responsibilities within the Imperium who's running things dayto day who's looking after admin who's running the military and why is K you're head of law
1:39:00
enforcement any any thoughts as to who you'd assign what job I definitely think um forgrim should be assigned to a head
1:39:06
of parties yeah yeah office office parties office parties get a bit rockus
1:39:12
yeah yeah yeah even though he's not falling into chaos I I reckon he's still got a little bit of like like a bit of P
1:39:18
yeah like a bit of fun yeah m I'm not sure I'd make Minister for health No
1:39:24
Maybe not maybe he's in charge of like um all the utilities maybe have to be
1:39:29
yeah yeah it's very good shout very good shout uh uh KH like Transportation
1:39:35
Minister oh yeah that's cool for a minute I was thinking corn and I was like oh no that's that's not
1:39:43
that's not yeah you're like what about buses no it's all bikes yeah bikes yeah yeah
1:39:50
draon angron is in charge of angry management anger management lessons for uh bad Road users yeah maybe he he deals
1:39:58
with like yeah the he he has like he oh I've been caught speeding oh I've got this meeting on Zoom who is it KH don't
1:40:05
speed again angry Rod yeah that would be quite
1:40:11
funny though if you think about it for a second that like if they they were given jobs to do you
1:40:17
think cuz you sure they're all basically designed to just be in charge of kill armies aren't they thinking going no you
1:40:24
are actually meant to be the guys that take the human race on as a civilization to then go yeah you've got a really dull
1:40:31
job it' be really bad to be I wonder can I do that job with me sword no because
1:40:37
if chaos wasn't around then warp wouldn't exist so there'll be no warp travel yeah oh yeah of course so um at
1:40:44
least if that's the route we're going down maybe walk travel is a thing but there's no demons um but think the
1:40:51
expansion would continue because uh McCary and he got so far and there was like oh you know he died just at the end
1:40:58
of where I think it was the ghoul stars or whatever maybe not the ghoul Stars it's the other side um but yeah so I
1:41:04
wonder if they're just carrying expanding and maybe have to deal with a threat and head on with the old Tyran so when CU I um I don't know a lot of that
1:41:11
time period when the Great Crusades were going on and that was pre
1:41:16
them discovering warp how was it just really long slog Journeys to go from
1:41:22
planet to planet though I think so yeah wow yeah like gener and like that's one thing in the books like sometimes like
1:41:29
the warp travel is it eisenh horn one they're like oh yeah we've got this oh it's going to take us like 38 weeks of
1:41:35
warp travel to get from this bit to this bit yeah I like the fact that even though even though they have they're
1:41:41
less about it being fast as AO in fast as in like hypers speed if we go with
1:41:46
that sort of thing it's more about just Roots isn't it it's like the sh cut through space supposed to you get it and
1:41:53
you go Mega fast like you you know like Star Wars or or um Star Trek deals with it it's a it's it's not so much the V
1:42:00
it's not so much the ship does it it's just the the route is what does the
1:42:06
speed is i supp that's why the ships are so big cuz they're almost like entire like yeah you're going to be on them for
1:42:12
you're going to be on them for a long time and the chaos guys like know the shortcuts and and stuff like that cuz
1:42:18
they know the war better so like yeah it's interesting well I loveing that that um Spear of the emperor book I was
1:42:25
reading the um the G field goes down and it causes absolute Mayhem and it's only
1:42:31
down for like 1.8 of a second and it causes that level of chaos on the ship
1:42:36
it's just madness out it's literally that long sort of thing and it creates Mayhem I think it's really cool it's
1:42:42
quite interesting to realize how dangerous the warp is yeah cuz they even tell non-space Marines uh working on a
1:42:49
ship that's going through the war that you should never look the windows yes yeah they won't be able to cope with it
1:42:54
the windows is co emperium emperion uh IM materium no that's the warp yeah War
1:43:03
but I'm sure like there's another term they use for like the colors and stuff like that it's not Imperium it's like
1:43:10
emperion or emper yeah I suppose next week when we have let us arbit can tell us all about it yeah
1:43:18
um I'm not going to read the last part of this Leist uh cuz that's crazy um if you uh could
1:43:25
reset the clock which edition of 40K and or fantasy would you bring back um 3.5
1:43:32
for him uh so if you had an addition I would I never got around to play in it I
1:43:38
would like to have had a go at not second edition Third Edition um I
1:43:43
think it's Third Edition uh warmer fantasy which is the goblins and the elves correct me if I'm wrong if that's maybe fourth um that's one I'd like to
1:43:51
do the goblins and the El you this one isn't there uh yeah I uh nothing is
1:43:57
anyone that you you've seen when you've been talking going that would have been fun to play I have no idea because all I
1:44:03
all I really know is soort like you know artworks and stuff like you know the black Templars are from Third Edition so
1:44:11
that one why not yeah yeah I don't know uh no that's a good entry level for a
1:44:16
lot of people that came in like when I was in retail was that Edition and that's the Edition really got into yeah
1:44:22
so yeah that's fourth edition isn't it the black temp templers third third is
1:44:28
it third I think it was third yeah second edition is the Marines and Gretchen isn't it Third Edition was
1:44:34
black and dark purely just because on the front of it there's that castellan
1:44:39
with like the axe oh from johnan yeah from the and then they made it into a miniature and then loads of people were
1:44:46
like is this first born now promeris and GW just went yes
1:44:52
nice me though yeah um I think I'd be I think uh I think I'd probably I don't
1:44:58
know maybe it's you you gravitate to what you know I think I'd probably go back to third because I was just found
1:45:03
it a very robust yeah rule system and don't get me wrong I don't hate uh people like I don't hate tenth by any
1:45:11
stretched imagination I find 10th is the easiest it's got to is a lot easier to
1:45:18
try and encourage someone into playing with because is not going oh and then don't forget you've got to add the price of your Plasma Pistol and then you've
1:45:24
got to I know people hate the point system as it now is from based on the power rating but um yeah but I like I
1:45:32
had a real soft spot for third and I still I I like things that now that I
1:45:37
know now it makes it the game more fluid but you know back then where tank face and had a you had to turn a tank then
1:45:44
you turned to tank yeah if you turned a tank to shoot it then exposed certain armors
1:45:51
armor side armor and back armor were different levels of strength uh were different levels of toughness so and you
1:45:58
know so you go I turn the tank to get that shop or I pay the price for it because now I've exposed my side armor
1:46:04
to that unit over there and I like the I like the yeah the balance of I think that's the rule system for 40K I play
1:46:10
the most yeah of all the 40K uh editions third is one I played the most and some
1:46:15
of that was because I worked in retail granted um but that was I don't count the intro games in that I count games
1:46:22
with friends and like you know games houses and stuff so yeah definitely the one I played the most uh good good
1:46:28
system that one uh Dave Jones or daav Jones maybe maybe he is under sea this
1:46:36
is for all of us Dear Santa for Christmas this year I would like blank
1:46:41
I've been good this year because blank fill in the blanks Pat what would you
1:46:46
like for Christmas and why do you deserve it um um I would like uh to be able to
1:46:53
freeze time but still work [Music] um because there's just not enough time
1:47:00
in the day um and I deserve that because I'm a good little boy nice you been a
1:47:06
busy little boy already yeah yeah but I'm good first okay well going to be
1:47:12
really materialist but first I want dear Sant I want Pat to get what he wants weird question uh uh uh Anakin
1:47:21
Skywalker want scale figure please I've been good this year because um uh I
1:47:27
haven't been a naughty boy uh I don't think I've been a naughty boy have I been a naughty boy I don't think I've been a naughty boy I'm going to not turn
1:47:33
this into like a weirdly sexual thing yeah you've been very good yeah yeah no well CU you've been a very naughty one
1:47:40
right I was like what what did we do remind me uh and Jeff uh what would
1:47:47
you like what was I like for Christmas um
1:47:53
I don't know um I don't know um I don't know a nice new pair of Nikes I like me
1:47:58
boots oh yeah there we go I'm a simple I'm a simple man yeah on a lot of levels nice and then I think we're probably
1:48:05
getting towards our last question I will this is from gunwitch then last question from gunwitch uh fish finger butties yay
1:48:11
or nay it's a yay from me can I add a caveat oh caveat or
1:48:18
cavat maybe both maybe both yeah my caveat has to have caveat no CU I I
1:48:23
ordered a fish finger buty like your basic you know two slices of bread butter fish fingers yes I had one that
1:48:32
was just over complicated it had another slice of bread in and then um so it went
1:48:37
bread fish fingers bread peas that's one I had at your that place you took me I
1:48:42
like that one see I didn't oh uh so no peas I'm not really a fan of yeah over
1:48:48
complicating it is is bad the the basic one yes anything else no uh yes for me
1:48:56
substantially sturdy bread to deal with the what's about to come is
1:49:02
um Obviously good good helping of butter fish fingers obviously but a nice
1:49:09
thick layer of TARTA sauce oh yeah tartar sauce M yeah he asked a lot more
1:49:15
questions but um uh one for Patrick have you ever considered doing the heavy voice for film trailers
1:49:20
the what what voice your dramatic voice your dramatic voice oh um no it's just
1:49:26
not dramatic enough somebody said that now whenever they watch the show they they go off and just copy your voice all
1:49:31
day your at work maybe they do what is that like when I was reading comments
1:49:36
on yeah I do enjoy that he good fun yeah uh Jeff do you think Wolf Gang was
1:49:43
actually a Russian spy because he would find anyone and everyone on X in geminy
1:49:50
does that make sense to you no G I don't know oh am I now really missing
1:49:55
something that I know and now I'm having a brain fart uh maybe also what necam mini would he be he'll be a delac if
1:50:03
he's a spy yeah that's what he would be a sneaky spy you got to be a you Sor G wi you don't have to ask me any
1:50:08
questions it's fine lastly will all of you please uh for the fracking love of the Wolf Gang
1:50:16
Wolf Gang no I know who Wolf Gang is Wolf Gang was oh Wolf Gang Amadeus no
1:50:23
amadas Amadeus no Wolf Gang was took me a while there when we used to go on big exercis
1:50:30
there was an area in Germany called salow and it was like um just CL it just
1:50:37
a quagmire of just it was just tracked Vehicles you can imagine the state this ground was in it was horrendously big
1:50:44
open environment for move and mechanized Vehicles about so it's a lot of track vehicles the ground was was
1:50:50
horrendous and you would be struggling to get these bluming things through if be armored personnel carriers through
1:50:57
and then no matter what Wolf Gang would turn up in his big blue Mercedes van and
1:51:04
save beggers and hot dogs and he go how's he managing it with his tracked vehicle just managing to get through and
1:51:11
we always felt he was spying on us somewhere on the radio on the radio frequency we don't know how because no
1:51:17
matter where you were he managed to find you oh turn now do I think he was a
1:51:24
Soviet spy yes but he could cook yeah he moment to get that then but yes you know
1:51:30
what he actually did was the first time he arrived was just look and he had little sort of like GPS traces in all
1:51:35
the food maybe and then he just followed you on satav I mean obviously I don't know if that obviously Buried one of his
1:51:41
GPS trads and he keeps going there to they
1:51:47
day no one why you be back here sorry what yeah I mean there's
1:51:54
loads more questions uh we didn't get around to all of them so save them for the next time CU I'm sure we'll do this again um so if you didn't get asked
1:52:00
bring it back and we'll try bring it back yeah so but yeah I guess we'll bring proceedings to a close yes uh
1:52:06
people have to go places we've got more people coming on very soon it needs it's got little brackets that I couldn't put on because it needs of things to poke
1:52:11
them out but look at that three stories of Nagle goodness three stories of sori
1:52:17
is what we're going to call St saori yeah you can knock the windows out and put them back in and knock the door out
1:52:22
and everything yes so good job oh there we go do up Jeff
1:52:29
you did that without instructions and and you told me you can't do flat pack only just about Li tell me why can't
1:52:36
flat back that's should I say lies Li deception save the dream I always want s
1:52:44
Guerrera to swallow that bread that's stuck in his throat yeah I really do just drink a glass of water s that's to
1:52:50
do po lad I want to know where he s in his mask yeah
1:52:55
yeah really nice like oil oh so oh
1:53:00
before we go yeah Ence of when using OB oil if if no one knows what obis oil is it's like a weird minty sort of thing
1:53:06
that you pour on a hany and it helps clear sinuses I once accidentally spilled a load on my hany and then it
1:53:12
splashed everywhere and I was like oh no and I was like oh it's all on my fingers and I had an itchy eyed later on I went ah
1:53:18
was cuz it really burned uh so yeah don't don't do a peach and be an idiot
1:53:24
hello Bella just just a time for the end of the show yeah you say goodbye to the audience they're over there say goodbye
1:53:29
so yeah one bark forbye for those of you that have lasted this long there you go you get rewarded with dog with with W
1:53:34
awake dog yeah yeah oh we're fighting now we're fighting this is a car park
1:53:40
fight she's going to win she's going to win yeah I heard you were xgw and
1:53:46
talking dare you how apparently she's on the Brinker getting the GW marketing job
1:53:52
oh is oh fantastic
1:53:58
salty fantastic well thank you very much for watching everybody thank you very much fling we will see you in the next
1:54:06
one Bye Bye Bye Bye say bye Bella say bye bye if we could get you to bark on
1:54:12
command that would be great wouldn't it w

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