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as I've said before there's one thing I
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never like to do in dedicated reviews
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and that's invoke the name of other
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brands printers as direct comparators I
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may bring it up occasionally when
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advising specific features are better or
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worse than those on other models but I
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never wanted to create a review saying
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this printer should be considered
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against that particular printer I mean
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it's typically just a bit rude towards
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the brand Who provided the printer for
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this video but this printer is so
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overtly matching so much of the style
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and feature set of the p1p that it's
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almost impossible not to compare them in
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many ways this printer is clearly a
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clone of the p1p whilst providing an
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option for those who want something much
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more open source and for many of you out
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there this is a great thing speaking of
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great things hi I'm Ross and this is f
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Hammer videos so where this most clearly
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matches its competitor is that what
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we've got here is a metal framed corxy
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printer and the build volume is 256 mm
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cubed and whilst we've seen printers
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before with various sizes this is the
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first I've seen which is smack on the
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nose of exactly 256 mm if this isn't two
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trees creating a machine as a direct
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response to Bamboo then why 256 why not
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255 or 257 or 260 this matching of
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volume is the first sign that it is
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asking to be compared and whilst the
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framework of this machine comes across
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as well built with everything neatly
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cabled into place inside the body you
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can tell by the numerous screw holes and
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indents within the frame of the chassis
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that the intent is to release an
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enclosure kit later on and further
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evidence for that is that even within
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the UI you've got options for changing
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the speeds of the currently non-existent
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auxiliary and case fans now on this
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machine specifically the unboxing and
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setup was one of the easiest I've ever
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performed it is literally take it out of
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the box and remove the six retaining
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blocks which hold the X and Y mechanics
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in place during shipping then you just
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need to attach the filament reel holder
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the Wi-Fi antenna and the screen which
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Just Clips into a plastic rail that you
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need to to attach to the printer body
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but that's it just plug it in and turn
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it on without the time I spent filming
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and moving my camera around this setup
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must have taken no more than 20 minutes
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from cutting open the box to turning the
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printer on now with any other similar
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printer I've had recently this is the
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part where you would expect an out of
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box experience on the UI where the
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printer walks you through Wi-Fi
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connection and Performing several self-
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calibration steps for things like
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resonance compensation and bed leveling
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but as per the handy note inside the box
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says the printer was already calibrated
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at the factory and yeah in my case it
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was at least to the point I was able to
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print the provided ventry file straight
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from powering on but I'll come back to
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that point later now in my initial notes
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for this review I was slating this
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machine for its lack of outof box
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experience in the UI now as I was
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initially filming this and making my
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review notes I was actually quite cross
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at the printer and the instruction
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manual for its lack of any useful
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information you're probably not
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surprised and it's not the biggest deal
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but yeah the manual is a poorly
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translated five-page Fe showing you how
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to remove the retaining blocks plug in
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the Wi-Fi antenna attach the filament
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spool holder and finally the screen
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module that whole process took me about
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7 Seconds to show you just now and when
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I say poorly translated I mean things
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like the heading of each page which
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should say something like assembly guide
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instead it says the printer assemble or
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on other Pages the machine ass emble and
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I can already hear the negative comments
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towards me and my content being formed
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in the brain of many a viewer but look
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yeah fair enough this kind of crappy
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stuff has little bearing on the printer
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itself but where this machine is so
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obviously trying to emulate the p1p two
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trees like so many other brands have
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failed to grasp that the reason for
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Bamboo's success is because of their
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focus on user experience and what two
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trees have created here kind of further
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proves that point for me because both
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printers are almost identical in terms
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of core Hardware though with this one
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taking several shortcuts in terms of
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Hardware quality like the LED strip
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being no more more than a cheap LED
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strip here to the visible screws on the
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outside of the case or the cheap metal
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build plate I honestly find it funny
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that Tut trees open their manual with a
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letter to a client it's not sure who the
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client is but probably you and this
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letter States we have always been
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customer oriented and contains phrases
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like so that everyone can have a rich
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experience now they may want to actually
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learn what those words mean because the
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first clear downfall of this printer is
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that it is neither a customer oriented
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or Rich experience in fact much of your
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experience is let down by both poor
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translation and or a lack of information
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for the end user and for many potential
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buyers out there I completely understand
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that you'll look at a company and think
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when they put such little effort into
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the small things like making clearly
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translated user guides where else are
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they cutting Corners in the hardware
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itself well I'll get to that but first
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maybe pause the video and have a look at
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the language used in this three question
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FAQ sheet to see if you can understand
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it because it took my brain more than
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one read to figure out its whole intent
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so anyway that was why I wasn't happy
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with the printer at first because I was
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trying to figure out how to calibrate it
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before my first print because that's
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what other printers have trained me to
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do but in reflection I actually think
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this is a better approach in some regard
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the printer was already calibrated which
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means if I knew this before opening the
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box I could have just started printing
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immediately after setup rather than Tred
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to go through unnecessary calibration
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steps however this approach is a
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double-edged sword due to poor well
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actually the complete lack of user
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instruction and I'm sorry to yet again
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drag out a video but I need to explain
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in everyone cuz I don't know which of my
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videos is the first one you've seen as I
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say with every fdm printer review I'm
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not the 3D printer tech guy I use my
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printers as tools to make models and
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props so what I'm after is a printer
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that provides great results with as
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little input on my part as possible
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there are other people out there like me
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I've got no interest in tweaking or
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tinkering any printer to get the most
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out of it as much as I'm typically happy
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with is performing maintenance when or
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if the printer starts to go wrong
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through General wear and tear and there
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will be a load of people out there who
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believe that I like many others
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shouldn't even own a 3D printer without
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being willing to do hours of calibration
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and tweaking but you know what guys I've
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seen enough comments on my other videos
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to know I am far from alone in my wants
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when it comes to these products it's not
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just a handful of people there are
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thousand thousands of you out there who
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are looking for the exact same thing I
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am a printer that works and works well
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so if you're also in that camp what you
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need to know about this printer is that
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whilst in many ways it has much of the
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same feature set as the p1p it won't
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hold your hand at all once you get it
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out of the box and follow that five-page
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guide on setting it up you are
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completely on your own the UI for
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example isn't the worst I've seen but it
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also isn't the most intuitive either and
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just like the instructions it's also
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poorly translated Within in the basic
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function menus the fan tab is sometimes
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called luter which is the German word
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for fan surely that's an easy fix in a
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firmware update but not already spotting
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this before release is lazy qat and when
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you start a print or one of the
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calibration tests you're locked into
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that function with none of the other
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options being accessible yet you still
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get the visible indication of your
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button press when running a calibration
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there's no indication that anything's
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happening during the nozzle heating step
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there's no readout of current temp so
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that you can see that it's getting
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hotter it just says Heating and you need
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to hope that it's actually doing that
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and should you need to perform any of
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the calibration steps good luck guessing
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what the four different icons mean
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because there are no user guides telling
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you what each one does or how to run
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them I suppose we must be at least
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thankful that they are mostly fully
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automated let me show you here the first
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one is Zed tilt which will ensure that
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the bed is level across the three
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independent Zed axxis Motors and I'll
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come back to that shortly the second is
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probe calibrate which I presume is for
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you to manually set the nozzle distance
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from the print plate which is
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essentially the Z offset the third
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option is bed mesh which once again is
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not an intuitive word to me but this
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seems to be leveling calibration and
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finally we have shaper calibrate which
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is a feature we've seen in all printers
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since Clipper became popular and this is
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to compensate for vibrations and I'll
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also come back to that shortly my point
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is there you go two trees it took me 30
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seconds to explain what you didn't even
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bother to and still with the UI Beyond
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those winges some fool decided it was a
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good idea to show file names with
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scrolling text and no print images so
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you need to wait for the text to scroll
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a few times to work out what you're
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reading nobody likes scrolling text two
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trees this is a modern printer not a
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website from
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1997 and finally for some ludicrous
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reason the remaining time on a print
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counts down hours from 99 minutes rather
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than 60 meaning that a print with say 4
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hours and 30 minutes remaining shows us
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3 hours and 90 minutes and you might be
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watching this thinking oh my God why is
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he spending this much time going on and
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on about the UI that's got nothing to do
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with how the printer actually works well
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in my view yes it does and at this price
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point and form factor you can buy a
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printer that doesn't have these issues
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and that generally just makes things
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easier for you so why should I not Point
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them out if these things don't bother
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you go and buy the printer that's fine
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I'm not telling you not to buy it I'm
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just showing you all the things I found
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irritating with it that I don't feel
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like we need to have anymore and now
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that I know we don't need to have these
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minor issues why would I choose to have
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them when I can just as easily choose
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not to with a printer from another brand
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so onto something a little more positive
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this is a bit of a double-edged sword
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because most brands would waste their
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time creating a weaker version of either
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curer or prer slicer two trees have just
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given us both of these bass applications
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on the thumb drive that this printer
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comes with none of this custom crap
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which typically results in a more
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limited slicer with less Comm Community
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Support not even a two trees branded
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version just the raw applications
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themselves and this is good however what
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they fail to do is explain to you how to
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set either of them up further cementing
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this product's place that it's not one
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that's beginner friendly now it's
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relatively simple but it's simple if you
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know how to do it so I chose pra slicer
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as it's the more feature Rich and more
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intuitive product and for your benefit
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the initial setup is simply clicking
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file import import config bundle then
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just select the bundle from the prer
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config folder on the USB drive that
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comes with the printer now this machine
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does have a few things I do like as I
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said but just like my earlier complaints
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this is also just minor functional stuff
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I do like that they opted to put the
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filament re holder on the side of the
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printer too many machines have been
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putting this on the back making it
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harder to access than it needs to be so
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thanks for that two trees and as
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mentioned it's got a cheap built-in LED
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light strip at the front which lights up
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your print from the front rather than
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the side like its direct competitor
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again smart considering I look at prints
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from the front and it has built-in Wi-Fi
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and whilst I'm not a fan of the sticky
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out antenna from an aesthetic point of
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view I'm glad it has it the setup on the
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printer is just a case of going to the
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network menu and connecting to your
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Wi-Fi network then you take the IP
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address and enter it into the printer's
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config screen iner which allows you to
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send and start prints remotely if you
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prefer you can even use the ethernet
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socket and the printer also has two USB
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ports one can be used for the USB drive
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if that's your preferred method of
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getting files onto the printer the other
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can be used for a camera which is useful
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as the printer does not come with one
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built in what I'm not so keen on though
11:43
is the build of the hot end once again
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this has pros and cons for anyone who is
11:49
aware you can see clearly from the image
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on the printer's web page and this video
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here that even shapewise this is all but
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a clone of bamboo p and X series hot
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ends but with the added benefit here
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that you can actually remove the nozzle
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and screw in a new one pretty easily it
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also means they can get the run out
12:08
sensor within the hot end right where it
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should be to avoid wasted filament
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however if you need access to anything
12:14
inside this unit which is a very common
12:16
maintenance activity unlike its
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competitors's unit there's no magnetized
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faser on this one so you will need to
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unscrew a few screws to get access and
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well there's there's more not only do
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you have to take out the for screws you
12:29
also need to remove the big bolt on the
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side I've still got no idea what this is
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for I'm guessing it's an extruder
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tension bolt but again there's no user
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guide that explains this but even when
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you remove that you can't actually pull
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the front faer away because it's trapped
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by both a power cable and the PTFE tube
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a tube you can't remove because the hole
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in the top is too small for fingers and
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there's no provided release tool and
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even if there was two trees saw it
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prudent to put a retaining clip under
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the release latch that you you can't get
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to I genuinely don't have words to
13:02
explain my feelings about this Approach
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at least not in a way that YouTube would
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allow or wouldn't result in me getting
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cancelled they honestly should have sent
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this printer to a poet getting back to
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it these hot-end parts including the
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nozzles are all proprietary so your only
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source of Replacements is two trees now
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I don't mind proprietary nozzles when
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there's a benefit but like many other
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brands that I often refer to as absolute
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crap there are currently no replace
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ments nor other size options available
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for this and finally and back to things
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I do like and yeah it's a small thing
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the Pei plate does have two alignment
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screws on the back so you can easily get
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the sheet in place before slapping it
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down to the magnetized surface it sits
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on and yeah this is only a small thing
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but so many modern Brands don't even
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bother to do this much that it's worth
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praising two trees for the effort now
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when it comes to the print quality I'd
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say this is absolute balls but it's
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probably me I'm not sure how but I
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expect after seeing this many more
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experienced users will tell me that I'm
14:03
doing something wrong now it shocked me
14:06
immediately just how fast this was now I
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say fast but don't pay too much
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attention to the 700 mm a second print
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speed on the website because that's
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movement speed not print speed print
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speed is limited by the Extrusion rate
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of the material you push through it so
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the 16-minute Beni on this printer is no
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faster than any other printer I've
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tested in the last year but with this
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great speed comes great vol volume and
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I'm not sure if it's the rails that this
14:31
hot end runs on but the movement sound
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of the print head reminds me of the were
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from dot matrix printers back in the 80s
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but when printing though using the
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pre-sliced Beni they supplied on the USB
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drive I noticed the door on the side of
14:43
the bench's cabin was clearly warped and
14:46
it was about now that it made sense to
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me that I might need to actually rerun
14:50
the input shaper calibration now all of
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the other pre-calibrated Valu should be
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fine through shipping thanks to it being
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well packed and locked into place but
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I'm sitting this printer on a different
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surface to what two trees would have sat
15:02
it on at their Factory this somewhat
15:04
necessary recalibration is obvious to me
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in hindsight but when I was going
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through the setup I just trusted two
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trees pre-calibration blindly without
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enough thought on my end again if you're
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new to printing how would you even know
15:17
to think about this and another thing I
15:19
noticed when printing my own stuff
15:21
however and yes this is a dumbass
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mistake on my part I started my next
15:26
print remotely before I took the benry
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off the late whoops please feel free to
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add a typical angry YouTube viewer
15:33
comment below like this reviewer's got
15:35
no idea because all the problems and
15:37
mistakes he's made yeah feel free to add
15:39
that comment if you've never made a
15:40
mistake in your life go for it anyway
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the result of my error was that the
15:45
printer just drove the nozzle down into
15:47
the benie so hard that it melted through
15:50
the top and dislodged the whole plate
15:52
out of alignment before I was able to
15:55
dive over and switch the printer off and
15:57
whil yes this bit here was my dumbass
15:59
mistake I have had other printers which
16:02
are clever enough to recognize that the
16:03
print area is not clear and warn me
16:06
before it just pushes its hot nozzle all
16:08
the way down into a part even if not it
16:10
would warn me as it started to connect
16:12
with the part stop the job and warn me
16:15
that there's some kind of obstruction
16:16
due to pressure on the motors but nope
16:19
here your warning is the sound of
16:21
mechanical failure because the plate was
16:23
now out of alignment I hoped that I
16:25
could use the Zed tilt calibration tool
16:27
to realign it but the misalignment was
16:29
so far that the nozzle just scraped into
16:31
the bed and again there was no warning
16:34
and the calibration just ended in a very
16:35
short time with no error so instead I
16:38
had to roughly align it manually by
16:40
turning the motors before running the
16:42
calibration again which ran much longer
16:44
the second go round and that's the only
16:46
indication I had that this time was more
16:49
successful and I then ran all of the
16:51
remaining calibration tests before
16:52
printing another Beni and some models of
16:55
my own and this here is some war game
16:57
scenery from the guys at War scenery.
16:59
comom I actually met these guys at lvo
17:01
as they were in the booth next 2 hours
17:03
and I really like the scenery they make
17:04
there's no sponsorship here they haven't
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paid me I just like the files and asked
17:08
for them so I could show them off now
17:10
I'm a huge fan of Warhammer and video
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games so this stronghold building really
17:14
is something that I just love and ticks
17:16
both of those boxes and 10 internet
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points goes to anyone out there who can
17:21
tell me what video game inspired this
17:23
now whilst this was printing I noticed
17:25
some undere Extrusion causing gaps in
17:27
the infill I didn't expect this
17:29
considering I'm using two trees filament
17:31
and their printing profile also when I
17:33
printed the first part I noticed some
17:36
terrible wobbles and ghosting up the
17:38
whole piece so before printing the back
17:40
part of this model I ran the input
17:41
shaper calibration again but the back
17:44
part also has very clear wobbles in it
17:46
what's odd that these wobbles lined up
17:48
perfectly with the front part suggesting
17:50
this is how the printer has somehow
17:52
interpreted it should be printing these
17:54
parts and as I said before it also did
17:56
this with the Beni which was slic by two
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trees however they did it and again in
18:01
the parts that I sliced myself so it's
18:03
not a problem in the slicing or the
18:05
slicer it's something from the printer
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itself I know that much and I'm sure
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there's somebody out there watching
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probably screaming that's obvious you
18:13
just need to tighten the widget flange
18:14
while Saturn is in retrograde and then
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it'll print perfectly but from all the
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Googling I've done and the other
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creators I've spoken to I'm consistently
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told that this is an input shaper thing
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well as I said I've run the only
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calibration available a bunch of times
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it's mostly unattended so I have no idea
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what else I can do it's also sat on the
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exact same surface that all of my other
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printers have been tested on and they
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were all fine so forgive me I'm going to
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wait until a profile for the printer is
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available in Orca slicer before I even
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bother with trying to fix it instead I
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printed this same model on my p1p using
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the cheapest pla filament I could find
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from eligo and using outof boox settings
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and I was able to get this sharp and
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detailed result and yeah look I do feel
18:56
bad by turning this review of the SK K1
18:58
into a you should probably get a p1p
19:01
instead video but sorry Tut trees you
19:03
invited this by creating a poorer
19:05
quality clone and having the audacity to
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charge the same price for it in
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conclusion there's some stuff to like
19:11
about this printer but like many of its
19:13
features the whole thing appears to me
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like a very sharp knife with no handle
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it'll cut as it was designed to but
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unless you're prepared to do a little
19:21
makeshift work to yourself then it'll
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cut you just as easily as anything else
19:25
and it's a bit blunt I think it's
19:27
obvious that this is so desperately
19:29
trying to be an option for those people
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who want to get something exactly like a
19:33
p1p but for whatever reason just don't
19:35
agree with or want to invest in Bamboo's
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more lockedown ecosystem now obviously
19:40
Bamboo's approach is one I personally
19:43
prefer but even I have to reiterate
19:45
nothing has ever suggested my opinion is
19:48
right for everyone even to the negative
19:50
commenters out there who are poised to
19:52
put a horrible comment on this video I
19:54
Know Who I Am guys I'm little more than
19:56
a person that most of my viewers watch
19:58
whilst they're sat on the toilet but I'm
20:00
also a guy who wants a printer to be
20:01
more like a modern SLA camera I want it
20:04
to give me half decent results out of
20:06
the box and have the option to tweak
20:08
options and settings to potentially get
20:10
better results in the few small hours I
20:12
have spare each week to try something
20:13
new but I want to always have the option
20:16
to go back to default mode when I want
20:17
to just get something printed now or
20:20
when I've ballsed up the settings trying
20:22
to make things better and it should be
20:24
okay to say I don't want to learn a
20:26
whole new hobby just to make a half
20:28
decent or even quar a decent building
20:30
for my Space Marines to stand next to on
20:32
my shelf and I expect most of my typical
20:35
audience are of the same opinion but if
20:37
you do then what you get here is the
20:39
closest thing we've seen yet to a bamboo
20:41
p1p but with Clipper open to you out of
20:44
the box but this is also a poorer
20:47
quality version too in terms of its
20:49
build I'm sure many people out there
20:51
will want this printer will buy this
20:52
printer and love this printer all I'm
20:55
saying with this review is I think two
20:57
trees could have won over much more of
20:59
the Everyman printer crowd if they'
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bothered with some more basic stuff like
21:04
translation user guides made key spares
21:07
available from the get-go and directly
21:09
integrated with things like Orca slicer
21:11
out of the box and I mean directly
21:14
integrated not leave you to set it up
21:16
yourself with no instructions on how to
21:18
do it but they didn't which to the
21:20
consumer is either lazy daed or
21:24
intentional and I don't know which of
21:26
these would be the better excuse
21:28
I hope my video has at least shown you
21:30
what this is so you can properly
21:32
consider it amongst your buying choices
21:34
and if you do intend buying it please
21:36
click our links in the descriptions
21:37
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our members for continuing to support us
21:41
they do get early access to all of our
21:43
content and more I'd like to thank you
21:45
for watching and if this video was
21:47
helpful in any way positively or
21:49
negatively please hit like and drop me a
21:52
comment until next time life is like a
21:54
box of chocolates faux hammer out
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