Playing 10th Edition & Tactical Pegs

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hi I am peachy hello I'm Patrick hello I'm Jeff and it's just the three of us
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today no no do you feel like they're few and far between these days so we need them I think we need them every night
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yeah yeah you know we can't we can't forget who we once were
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that was amazingly dramatic I've um I've just been listening to a lot of
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black Library um and and you know the night Lords they're kind of you know they're going
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through that phase at the moment being like we've run and we've hidden too much we need to go to this planet and we need
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to excavate a skin pit um and it's yeah it's pretty wild or a flaying pit sounds amazing and and it's
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like their version of not forgetting who they once were is like yeah let's just murder a load of civilians yeah yeah
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keep our hands in you know yeah yeah so excavate a skin pit yes so what do they
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do they did euphemism written over it all day long do they fill it with skin oh dude sorry so I think I think it's a skinning
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pit oh right I believe my apologies for the for the uh
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yeah yeah like there's a doctor who oh no he's not a doctor he's an apothecary my apologies same difference yeah
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um and and he wore like um there was a like a marine he he worked was it the Red Cross says or like
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a chaos chapter or something like that yeah like piracy yeah and and like a marina died on his table
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um and his nickname is everyone calls him the Flair you'll never guess why
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and um and then this Marine dies and then his mates come to like Avengers death
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um and he's like oh I'm disappointed there's only three of you he mustn't have been very well liked and they're like where is he we need to see him and
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he's like oh he's been looking at you the entire time and he turns around and he's got his face oh God like on his
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pauldron um and then they get really the Space Marines get really muddy and then the
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Apothecary just like kills them all right and then he joins the night Lords
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yeah yeah yeah that's speaking to him like yeah what
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was it um oh in Downton Abbey when like there's a fight at some political rally and he's like oh I heard there was quite
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the brouhaha yeah so I'm like these night Lords they really started a brujah
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by the end they were wearing their their mate's faces yes so there we go so you
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know I just I'm at one with the night Lords you know Jeff just be careful you might stop next
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week it'll just be next be next time it'll just be him on his own and might mean your face on each other or your
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face are mine and my face oh yeah yeah yeah just like two mops some skin on
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yeah yeah oh well this took a left at the lights I thought I'd try and be you know a bit
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a bit dramatic and then um but you know that's that's Warhammer isn't it it is it just getsy doesn't it before we're
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dealing more drama yeah not related to anything but uh let's let's see we have a letter we have letters we have some
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letters yeah I feel like it's like one of them 1970s children so we've had a ladder and now we go to Jeff who's
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reading a letter from one of our viewers and it says hi Jack Patton Peach I wanted to reach out from across the
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channel and say thank you for what your guys are doing your podcast has quickly become my favorite part of my Monday
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work day and it helps me through the monotony of a nine to five I've been in in the Hobby in off and on for about 20
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years but feel more connected to it now more than ever I recently moved to the Czech Republic with my girlfriend and as
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you know making friends in your 30s can be difficult however I soon found myself on a local gaming group and this has
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been very welcoming and been has reinforced how many games such as these Bridge Brothers I'm bringing people
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together for the love of little plastic men please accept this gift in the way of thanks for everything that you
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continue to do for the community it doesn't seem like enough for all the hours I've spent watching you guys brackets not like that but I hope you
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enjoy it all the same thanks for the laugh and don't forget to Peg responsibly we always do always
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responsibly without I don't I go enjoy you're just rough yeah I always ask for consent it feels weird
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if I don't I don't yeah I I don't ask for a percent but I always
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make sure to lick the peg first [Applause]
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for the next subscriber celebration I have two proposals Drink Along mini painting stream or kick bashing and
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painting a more time War bandage I'm playing some games nice I'm up for both of those and so and that is from the
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lovely Alex in the checkbook we have bubble wrap and we have bubble wrap can
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I just play with that for the rest of the chat yeah that can be you I just hear you popping you're like my son he likes that oh
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Jeff laughs that means there's something rude yes yeah oh nice
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Peg data sheet oh my God that's amazing one Attack One attack I
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hope it does a lot of damage oh this weapon deals one emotional damage from which there can be no save
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nice love it thank you I like how you you cut through as well it's even cut
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out very nice oh we shall use this in future games oh wouldn't that be a girl if we could throw the throw the the
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Tactical Pages I've got it I've got it I've got it you've got it yeah and now we should try
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and focus on my face we're in Romance cam we're back that is amazing what else as well this
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was on on a personal one because I put out a plea after Tom Hibbert's amazingly successful show yes hundred and one
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thousand is that what we're on now 19 okay wow and by the time that this show
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has gone out will be over 70 000 subscribers as we were like really close
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69 992. Cube away from them real that's how
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close we were Nathan Nathan Nat they are yeah Nathan's pube
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away from them I don't even know if we need this I don't know either we're on it have we done it we're on it
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history being made live on the channel yeah amazing yeah cool congratulations
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congratulations everybody that's amazing fantastic it's amazing a lovely lovely uh so that was the one that didn't have
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spiders in it yes that was the one too it was a chap came into the shop called Ryan Reynolds oh yeah was he dressed up
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as Dead uh about to say dead shot then Deadpool he wasn't because I think that would have made shaving he's had that
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little bit more difficult well you don't need shave his head because he's just like a horrible cancerous no martial
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arts but not this one this is a different Ryan Reynolds and he came in and he kindly gave me
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Servo skull tape measure oh yes yes so a big thank you out to keep Ryan to
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bring my little um it's still sealed My Magazine with the dice well somebody has
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reached out because I said it's my my mission in life now is to complete the the holy relics
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and uh I've been kindly offered um lives my uh holders and it's over
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there and also um someone's offered uh to send on and
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we'll be winging their way to us at this time thanks great for objectives not great for
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Rolling yeah yeah I've been led to believe apparently someone said they've done so much as raw rollers fall out
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your hand if you do that and they just go and land on them start going if I put
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all fives there and then do that right yeah yeah it's like way to dice rather than being waited you know we always use
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dice for wound characters oh absolutely yeah
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uh we've all been there in this room oh we've been hacked we understand yes the
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emotional torment and journey of being hacked and recently sucks unfortunately got hacked by some it's
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bizarre people actually thought she was selling Teslas Teslas and cryptocurrency yeah yeah so uh so sorry that means I'm
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not gonna get that car no I mean I saw a ride in and one driving on one that's nice
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she said on YouTube she was like I don't even know how to drive yeah yeah yeah so she wouldn't be if you have
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bought one oh you're going to be disappointed because Louise won't be delivering it yourself yeah I'm afraid I'm afraid uh yeah so yeah that was it
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but it's terrible because when it happened to us it was absolutely crushing wasn't it and it felt like we all felt so helpless for so many days
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yeah yeah it was like quite um yeah like you can't really do any you're like oh
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it's happened I can't get back into the thing um and you just like do everything you
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can and then we just had to wait like a week yeah um and that was very unpleasant I think that's really telling as well with like
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these social media platforms is there's no real way to contact
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no yeah it's difficult you have to go around all these hoops and hurdles to try and find some human
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to take your case so you can actually get your own account back um and like you you know we found when
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we were doing it it's like we we had to go to you not YouTube Twitter which is now X which confuses me still because I
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keep getting started um that we had to like at the YouTube
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Studio creative team yeah in the hopes that we might might or might not get a
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DM bearing in mind that these guys have like what 11 million followers subscribers or whatever yeah they did we
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did yeah yeah but it was just like what and I think Rob was saying that he knows someone that works for Facebook right
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okay this matter isn't it yes exactly yeah yeah is it or Instagram like yeah yeah so that he was able to find a human
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there that was able to escalate it someone did it was a bit after and came in to say thanks as well but um drop me
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a message to say oh I work for Facebook I can prove it um so I was like oh I'll get back to you
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never like weird flex but okay but yeah I mean a lot of people reached out to me to say did you know Suggs has
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been hacked like yes I did yeah yeah I feel like I have to respond to everyone because it's like a bit rude to ignore
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folks but I yeah yeah I I was at a wedding at the time and um I wasn't aware that uh she'd been hacked and then
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I saw a notification on Instagram and it was like I was I think someone had checked it and then like yeah took a
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screenshot and said she's been hacked yeah like report it yeah but interestingly
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um I had an option it was like a report report account and I had like an option
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at the bottom that said this account I think this account has been hacked yeah um but not everybody had that option I
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wonder if it depends on followers yeah like you get more options the more followers you get I don't because you're
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a big dick swinger on Instagram that's why [Music]
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[Laughter] oh no Instagram like uh I think like
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under 20 000 yeah [Music] I don't know if I'm making this up and
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I'm sure someone correct me in the comments but I'm sure if you get to a certain threshold in numbers things change a bit as well like oh right
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because when you start an account you can't go around liking lots of things because it sees you as a Bop so you restrict how many times you can like
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someone how many times you can follow someone um and then when you get to a certain point you get more options
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um for Life me if you were to ask me what those options were I can't remember but I wonder if that might be yeah maybe
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yeah yeah because it seemed like I was asking everybody to do something that they just weren't able to do yeah
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um and then I don't know if it was that helpful but it's nice to try and do something I guess in that situation wow
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and it was all sorted soon yeah well I think she's going back oh we've got the stories out so uh that didn't take long
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at all two weeks like ours which was YouTube thank God and then we still have a um we
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still have a we got like flagged because we asked everybody to report the videos that were on our
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YouTube and then um we got like a red flag against our name and it was like if you get another
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one in six months like you can't post anything for a month I don't understand yeah yeah that's it yeah and and I
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emailed YouTube and I was like hey like can you get rid of this like I went in and deleted the video because you know once we got our account back I I didn't
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want that on there and had to change all of the links in like every video that we've done and all that sort of stuff
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um and nothing and it's since expired but it's like you know it's on our record yeah I said it's like it's
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probably not like at all but it feels the same Vibe as like I'm going to go to the police office and report that I've been burgled I've been burgled yes but
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before you leave you need to be flogged yeah I mean like two uh two two sure
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right like I guess to like a a lesser crime it's it's like elements of like
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you know victim blaming or something along those lines yeah it's like oh you got I mean like it was my fault but um
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yeah I'd be like I've got Burger to be like well did you have good locks you know yeah yeah
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um yeah yeah but so no yeah it sucks but I'm glad it's all it's sorted I think a tick tock is still dead yeah so it
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deleted all the videos off Tick Tock so yeah it's just I don't know threads and
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stuff like that but I know she's she's got it back and she's yeah less distraught than she was but I really
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really don't want to get hacked again um oh there was oh yeah I've got it I've got it here oh
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um an airbrush company message me um I'm so paranoid about it now like an
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airbrush company that I've never really heard of message me and were like we want to send out some airbrushes
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um yeah yeah we've got some mops and buckets we want to send them we're
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diversifying admittedly that was a bit silly of me to
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describe it that way um and um yeah they only I think they only sell on Amazon
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um and they don't really have a website and that kind of thing I think they're a Chinese manufacturer um and they messaged me on Instagram and
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were like yeah like blah blah blah blah here's all this um and they sent me an email and Google was
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like this is Spam like this email has been used to like com people out of stuff yeah don't reply to it and and I
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messaged them back on Instagram and took a screenshot and I was like yeah this is your email like I'm not I'm not gonna click on anything like you're all good
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um but then I was like I really want an airbrush um so I messaged them on Facebook
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um and I was like Hey like are you part of the same thing is this like what's going on blah blah blah blah and like
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um and I was like well I'll give them my address but I'm not going to click on anything and then an average turned up so they
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sent us an airbrush which is awesome so that's that's wow that's the brand yeah it could be a massive sort of uh EPM
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device that when you open it it just shuts down our entire network well I had already opened it
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um that's very Mission Impossible yeah yeah stop talking about the hobby how dare you yeah having fun but yeah it's
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all like wow give it a go yes Hopper sizes as well
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yeah yeah that's it's pretty good um or it looks pretty good and there's a bunch of the different size needles and
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Lube um which I always get a lot of people
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like a boy to be fair I was doing my best
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um but yeah it seems like it's got one of those like um you only get it on the harder and steam back ones that are like
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really really expensive where it has like a stopper so you can't go back yeah yeah like too far which for a beginner
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like they put but for a beginner that's really helpful but they put it on their like premium airbrushes yeah in reality
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it should be on the low on the level it was on the lower ones because I imagine if you're really good your muscle memory
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will just yeah it won't go back too far anyway yeah um and and this is quite a bit cheaper
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so but we haven't tested it yet yeah um or anything like that so this isn't like an endorsement but thank you very much
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we've got a uh a classic GW spray brush oh that needs a video in its own right
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yeah yeah so statework Studio a guy called Marcel sent it to us um and he
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has a Instagram where he just like posts old workshops yeah it's just nice seeing it every now
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and again it would just be like do you recognize these two forces and it'll be like an epic battle from white dwarf they're really good like photos as well
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so I don't know I don't know where he gets them from but um but yeah he just like I've got one I'll send it to you um but we got some bottles so oh yeah
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I've got some bottles yeah fantastic oh then we could do like yeah spray gun versus airbrush yeah and spray gun will
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probably not win but it is good for like undercoating yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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um gifts coming in should we talk about gifts going out oh yeah we have our giveaway don't we yeah yeah we do so
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um well I'll do mine at the end we'll alternate okay
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it's a leviathan box it's a leviathan box these are going to be drawn at the end of April by the way yeah and at the
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end of April what next year oh yeah into August oh
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I am a mess you're the one with a lion August yeah yeah well this is a long-term plan yeah you
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all know this yeah we've got one of them to give away what have you got Mr Pizza party uh reluctantly uh now I've got
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ideas we're gonna give a shatter point away as
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well we've got kindly sent to Two Shots points um so I'll talk more about SharePoint in a minute
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um yeah but yeah so yeah a full shot Point set very nice and that's great because as we found out they ain't cheap
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they ain't cheap and it's a really uh well everything in there you can play a game with you but it's only 16 minutes
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and we also have
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so we have yeah two Leviathan boxes uh the shutter point and then uh very
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kindly from Trish from Futsal Miniatures you get to select a miniature from her
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Harrow Hurst range yes yeah out of any price you can pick the cheapest one or the most expensive one she said go go
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for one of the bigger ones because they're more expensive were her words yeah
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um that's lovely and that's on the internet so you know she has to be I can't remember the name of it now but
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the uh the dragon the sort of bark wood elf yeah yeah is amazing you'd be mad
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not to get that I just want the Frog oh yeah yeah which is sold out so if you want to be in on all of this
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yes sign up to patreon or if you're already in patreon put your finger out and the question was uh the question was
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what was the first range of Miniatures that Trish worked on uh at Games Workshop and uh if you put your comments
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on YouTube you won't get anything so you do need to sign up to patreon but you need to go to the Trish video on patreon
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put your comment in there and what as to what you're thinking oh we have a we have a specific post for the uh for the
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raffle yeah even better yeah but yeah just watch this video and even if you have and go to the Trish video anyway if
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you haven't watched it because it's awesome Yes Yes she'll literally tell you in the first 10 minutes yeah yeah
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she already tells you in the last three seconds of the whole video so you have to watch all of it yeah she tells you
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first then lies and says something different at the end yeah you kind of you kind of have to figure
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out The Da Vinci Code before you can answer the question um and then like go to to Tom Hanks and um
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ask him a bunch of questions but I don't know I didn't bring it with me well I've got it in my bag what uh oh can I
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quickly remove myself and come back yeah two seconds
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um it was busy oh I got recognized yeah yeah uh I I felt like a right
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Goblin um it was on Saturday we were at the Squig no it was it was on Saturday
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morning and I've just gone into a petrol station and depending on which way I'm leaving Nottingham for for work there's
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certain petrol stations that I'll stop at because I know that they do like better food and because I'm usually in a rush I always get food there and there's
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one uh going out the east of Nottingham um and uh they have like a fake Greg's
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and um I came out with friends yeah yeah they came out with oh is it it's like a
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shell garage that has a fake Greg's shakes um and so I came out and I had like a
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meal deal loads of stays like my arms were just like full and I was like toddling back to my car and somebody
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just goes Patrick and I'm like oh no I've been exposed yeah yeah I am I
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follow a Facebook group which is it's all based on sarcasm which is called the door man's club and it's just really
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really people like like you know I'm a big fan of photo photograph and roundabouts that sort of thing
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you know that's so important what's your hobbies and we've never been one to miss an opportunity I um took a screenshot
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from one of our shows yeah and I put I um I paint toy soldiers and play with them and I help run a YouTube channel
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and I put it on and just you know just put that out and then about three people went I love your show so we adult we we
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really told people um sarcastic people
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and and it was yeah it was quite funny just because he was like oh yeah like I used to work at Games Workshop didn't
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have a great time here that but yeah I love the show oh it's awesome and I was like cool
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yeah that's it yeah yeah that's what I do yeah no yeah I should have done yeah
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I think I was just like so surprised um to be recognized Dirty Little Secret yeah yeah and eyes
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um Charis told me a really funny story last night um so her brother was staying with us
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and um and she was like oh he's really organized like he's bought like everyone's birthday presents for the
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year already um and he was like oh he went into a gaming shop to get you a present and he
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said to the person behind the counter like I don't know what I'm after but like my sister's boyfriend is like on
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the painting face and the person behind the counter was like oh no way peachy and it was like no
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no like like one of the other ones they're like Jeff
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but then I was like I mean it makes sense and I was saying to Karis I was like you know like we've had loads of
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guests on um and I haven't made it I like I'm filming some painting videos but um obviously I haven't like released
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them or anything like I've been on camera in a couple of months yeah but it's 50 Pat uh September no what day
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29th oh two days before two days after Charlie's nice yeah yeah how old am I
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going to be this year
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yeah yeah so you're gonna be what 30 what 34. oh wow that's the opposite
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numbers for me flip around yeah yeah that's pretty good that's good Dynamic yeah yeah yeah and
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you're ancient yeah oh yeah we've got I like the fact that this show has people in three different decades yeah yeah
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millenniums but sure during decades I mean you were there for the Magna
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carter so I don't know I was looking particularly Dapper yeah oh we made
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jokes about that yeah yeah I was too busy I was too busy taking names to end
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up on the bio tapestry oh yeah they couldn't Stitch fast enough to get me in
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good oh dearly me right then yes what were we going to talk about we're going
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to talk about a point shutter point so well firstly I went to my first tournament for a while oh uh after
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having like Steve on and Rob on his war game is Rob the hottest wargamer as
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Suggs would refer to him which is a good title because it's pretty mildly biased but yeah it's pretty hot it's pretty hot
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um but yeah he invited me over they had a little chat Point tournament uh where was it it was it robs uh so uh the TSN
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Arena which is the uh Sports Network um so that is what they that they're
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basically trying to do an Esports thing but it's very yeah it sounds like it's like a like a sponsored thing yeah yeah
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the TSN Arena it's like literally next to the ice
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arena but he's got like a nice premises with lots of like it's basically set up for tournaments they have like areas where they can do like um top-down
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cameras for streaming and all sorts of streaming stuff but he was like yeah do you want to come to do a SharePoint
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that's fine and then add a couple of weeks to prepare I didn't prepare
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because I looked at the rule book um so there's a lot of things I want to discuss about this so obviously
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the event was amazing really enjoyed myself lots of so my experience in the past with like tournaments have been
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like people that really know what they're doing and then just destroy it and have no emotional
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connection or contact with you they just turn up to win so they're going to the high table so they can yeah be the best
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um and that's the experiences I've always had um I'm just a bit like I don't know all the rules and I'm a bit don't buy minds
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and you say that that it's like you know like um you know like Japanese video fighting games where whenever they beat the other one on the other one just goes
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that's that's my early days of tournament um I I decided my mentality for this
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event was to go in just to have fun yeah just and to learn the rules and I
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literally said to every opponent this is going to be an easy win for you because I don't know what I'm doing uh the first game I had was against the uh the second
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most uh second best yeah second best shot Point uh player in the world I
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don't know if that counts for a lot because it's only been out for a month but still um boy a couple of months but yeah he
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was he was really nice beginner's luck yeah yeah well he taught me the rules as he played I wasn't expecting to so yeah
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so for me normally I you know I didn't want to be having my handheld all the way through the tournament so a lot of it was just like I want to try and work
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this out so give me a minute or two and I like to go so what I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do that so I'll try to assimilate the information that they
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threw at me um and I did and there was a few mistakes I made but the guys were there going oh no you can't do that they're
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like okay cool fantastic so I'll try and do it again no no that's wrong about oh what am I doing wrong then they were
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like oh it's not because you're looking at this rule it's it's this one for this ability or whatever like okay so there
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was a lot of that my brain was mush on the Sunday it was that a bit when you tried to put in the Star Destroyer yeah
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Cruise onto the planet yeah Star Destroyers they don't come in in
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two years later yeah yeah yeah so um so I went in with the mindset of just
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having fun and I had a lot of fun really enjoyed it every game I played was a blast there was lots of different Dynamics as well which again I'll come
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to in a mode but the night before the night before that I'd got the rule book out
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bit dyslexic when there's words of texts like literally comes to text I find it really
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hard to read through yeah um and it's a it reminds me a bit like how like necromondas sometimes set out
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although I can read the necromanda rule book and assimilate most of that information quite well um this was just very it was just too
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much and they all agreed because we're all talking about they're like oh it's a really badly written rule system the rules are great it's just the way it's
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been presented it's a bit all over the place but they'll do things in the rules where
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it'll be like Ahsoka Tano Jedi no more and then in one paragraph you'd have that written five times it's like can
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you not just abbreviate to Ahsoka but it had to be Ahsoka Tano Jedi no more can do this so katano Jenna no more can then
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do this do you think there's going to be in Ahsoka still a Jedi first well there is a model that was an event only which
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is a sokotano Padawan um you could just go you could just people know who you're on about in that
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in that context yeah Jedi some more yeah yeah yeah so it was
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just quite hard to read and it took me a while but now that I've played a few games my brain is now wide so I can
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understand the information a bit better yeah um but it's a really interesting game system because it's very focused heavy
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on objective taking um so you have like nine places on the battlefield and you get these things
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called struggle so it's the best of three uh sorry best of two um so you play three games oh it's the
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best of three isn't it yeah yeah yeah yeah um so you have three games or three struggles um at the moment there's only
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like one Mission card and then I think nine um deployment cards depending on which drug you're answer you get three for
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struggle one three for struggle two three for struggle three and the idea is you have like nine places on your
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tabletop which don't change the nine objective areas and you play through the first struggle and what will happen
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they'll be have is you flip over the um the the objective markers to be active so you know which ones you're claiming
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so when you move then your object you take it you basically move this this Cube along the struggle marker and who
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basically gets this what this clear one onto the black one on their side wins
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the struggle but it's just a marker it seems very complex at the moment the way I'm saying it but there's like a little
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Cube and you move it until you get to your side uh and then you win that struggle and then you go to the next one
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you know play the next struggle I'm a visual learner yeah yeah there's a lot of
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um YouTube videos out there that we'll we'll talk about it but there's a Tracker basically okay yeah if you get
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your track onto your sides or whatever the Black Cube is took a while yeah so yes it's a tug of war and if you win
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that tug of war with like same objectives you then go to the next struggle you don't like redeploy or
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anything like that the character that may be wounded that point uh stay where they are and for Activation you have
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like a deck of cards with all your characters so if I've got like Ahsoka and Anakin Rex
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Boca town and all the others you shuffle them and you just reveal and that's who you get to act it activate you can
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resume put one in reserve you have to spend so we've got a force point to do it and then you have to go with the second card after oh right so it's like
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random activation yeah which is really good so you but as the debt gets lower you start to get a bit of an idea of
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like oh I know I've got two options left and I really need this personification um so you randomize who you're getting
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so you can't just choose who to activate but you've got to wait until all those cards are done before you can that's cool move them again
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um and obviously you're claiming these objectives so if you're halfway through your deck you still continue the next struggle halfway through you dare can
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then continue moving your your dudes but all the objectives change oh what's clever except well they're
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changing it very different way it makes it so that normally there's about six I think six objectives or seven that are
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active um and then when it gets to struggle two only three are active and you have to
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roll each dot each turn each activation which is the most important at that point and that gives you more points all
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right okay so the the the the first game I was just learning this I was like oh my God this is mad the second game I
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kind of got the idea a bit more so where you you deploy your people makes a bit of a difference and when you leave them and there was one game where I had like
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figures all over the board um and then if you've managed to get to struggle three it changes the deployment
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again so all the objectives then change around so it's very objective based yeah models rarely die
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um which is really interesting for me for a skimmers game so let's take Anakin for instance he has 11 damage right I
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think it has like a a Bupa symbol like a little heartbeat symbol yeah and he has three of those when he takes 11 damage
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that's him out until you activate him again um and when you activate me and so you can't claim objectives or anything like
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that yeah when you activate it you can remove all your damage markers and then you put like a little Bupa mark because
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he's taking one yeah and if it takes more damage you put another one if he takes more damage you put another one
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and after that he's dead right yeah so technically he's got 33 damage but after that first one you can like you have the
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this pool of force points um and you can do things with them but with
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something that's been wounded it costs more so it becomes more he's getting a bit more drained he's a bit more wounded
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so if you want to like you know do a force jump um or whatever Force Powers he's got um
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it costs him instead of two or cost him three um which is really right reduces your
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amount for the pool for that turn because um with a Soaker and Anakin you only get seven
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so if he's using like three that's like nearly half a year your pool gone just for doing a jump just for doing a jump
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um and they all have their ability it took me ages to like get me around what and there's some nice signages like bow katanga do a thing and if she does a
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thing then one of her uh Death Watch can do his thing and because they've done a thing that gives her then a thing so
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there's lots of signages to do but the thing I like the most and this sounds really weird I played against opponent he had Obi-Wan he had uh Rex and the two
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50 first clone troopers so instead of using Anakin he just went I'm not gonna use Anakin and use everyone because everyone apparently is the best
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character in the game system at the moment you can just do lots of stuff yeah so that was I mean he's he's the
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best character in the in the entire Series so it makes sense so I don't think we have two squads
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um or two units um and that that forms your your force your force is made up of two squads and in that the um depends on
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how many figures you have but he had Obi-Wan Rex and two clone troopers the
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other one which would freaked me out was more gar Saxon and two super Commandos
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and that was his force and I was like but that bad news is like yeah but they're all goodies within that and
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they're all the same within that so I can I can use them both yeah so it doesn't all have to be forced like so you can have goodies and baddies in the
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same team in the same uh I guess uh Force um so what could be separatists one
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could be um Republic oh right within that Squad so I couldn't have Darth Maul and then
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I couldn't have Darth Maul Rex and then to 50 First just within that small Squad
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there's a yeah you've got keywords like Galactic Republic or whatever the super Commandos they're the they're the
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um there are some droids called uh super come out or Commandos they're the black and reds mandalorians
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that join um right okay so I'm thinking of like is it that you get the clone commandos yeah
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Republic Commandos which you can get as a set with a luminari and uh barrisoffi
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yeah but what it threw to me was like so it just gives you different Dynamics in the game it doesn't matter if they're like from different sides of the of the
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background it's just it's about playing with different it's the meta right but I had this notion and I really loved it
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for this I want to do more as a goodie so I want to do Jedi version of mall so give me like cream robes
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lightsaber maybe one of each I don't know yeah yeah oh yeah that'll be fun and then I was gonna do guard Saxon as a
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goodie so he's just another cool looking so glass accent will be in the same kind of colors as Death Watch and then do the two super Commandos in the colors of
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Death Watch and then I could use those yeah so I could have bokeh tan Ahsoka to death watch Maul gas accent and they all
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look like goodies oh yeah yeah so it was just really interesting just seeing like how people built their forces there was
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one though um because you can get Darth Vader there's like a little set which Darth Vader versus uh yeah it's quite
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expensive as I said I thought that in fact 85 quid and you get like a piece of scenery in like two characters oh yes
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yeah yeah but he has I I remember right if I remember I guess the keyword Galactic Republic as well as Galactic
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Empire uh so Darth Vader Darth Vader yes so that's why I was able to use him with
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like Rex and the 501st yeah because of the keyword yeah within that and I guess
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it makes sense because there is a time when Darth Vader and the Clones are still dropping around yeah yeah yeah so
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yeah which is interesting because it is your new Empire uh doesn't quite happen straight away does it no
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um but yes it was really interesting to see how people played with their forces now like they have different Dynamics and stuff which then because I had this
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idea of just doing the entire box as the opposite so do all the the Republic as separatists yeah like bad is and do all
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the separatists as good as the main like Republic sort of thing to do yeah it's like that thing where people do that ultimate
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version of 30k don't they oh yeah yeah yeah well it went the other way yeah yeah
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which is a great idea yeah yeah yeah I think Pete's kit bashed a bunch of stuff yeah Pete leans into it quite a bit oh
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he recently did a nurgle uh sanguineous yeah we did yes yeah yeah it looked
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really cool yeah because a few people will chat into him uh when we went to see Byron and a few people were like saying that
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why didn't you pick corn or why didn't you pick um uh Slash or something like that you
37:18
had a valid reason for life I can't remember sorry Pete uh but it did make sense when he explained to me his reasonings behind picking nergel as
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opposed to yes okay yeah I can't remember because Lots happened on that day when we were looking around at wood
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yeah there's a lot of wood artists to look at which we could talk about in a minute yeah yeah we should wrap up on
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chat points but yeah great uh the rule system took a bit while the the thing I found really interesting as games go is
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very linear so you could replace all the high level yeah detailed
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um scenery and have it like as flat pieces of card because your motion measurements are
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done top down so the the height doesn't really make a difference the only time a hype makes a
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difference is objective so if I had and again you're measuring from the top so if I had like Anakin on an objective and
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yeah like I don't know Darth Maul on an objective together I I've captured it first it's mine Darth
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Maul needs to like kill me or get more people around it because I'm within two inches of it I've got it but if Darth
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Maul if it was on a hot yeah I would always have to put the objective as high up as you can if this if it's near scenery so if it's like oh there's a
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bridge yeah and you you can't put it underneath the bridge you have to put it on top of the bridge right that's gone High base that's the entire height
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really matters um and if Darth mauls were intuitive but it's on the lower level you claim it but
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then if Anakin's on the top level he gets it because it's it's the highest or yeah so that's the only time the height
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really matters everything else is just like you could play on a flat board of flat car so like could you scale a
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building and it you don't have to use any of your Force points to get up there no so you move you have movement values
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and stuff yeah so you have like a different type of if you played star with Legion which you I know you haven't you have like two different different
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sort of movement gauges yeah and there's one which is Dash and one which is Advanced yeah and advanced is the
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longest one um if you get to a ladder then you just scale it um but if you don't have like jump like
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if you've got jump packs yeah you like usually jump but you don't like measured there then measure up the measure there
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you just measure oh right okay yeah yeah right okay um okay so so yeah so there's
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no sort of like let's say for climb as well it's just like you just climb up so how did you do I lost the first game
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because I was against the second greatest player in the world today um which I expected yeah absolutely uh
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the second game I also lost but I won a struggle I want to struggle which uh was
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a struggle uh hence the name uh but he beat me because he it was best of three he got two I got one uh and then this
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the third game I won and I don't know how I think that was all look um so it was generally sort of it went
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really well on the first struggle for me and then the second one I was just in such a good place that I was just like
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claiming objectives with very little effort yeah I was really lucky with the deployment because when with the second car for the second struggle
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um you can pick which two deployments of objectives and I just went well I'm going to pick this one because oh no he
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picked whichever one it was because he won sorry I'd won the thing and then he gets to pick
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um but it just still worked well for me anyway because his forces were close by these ones that he picked but mine were as well and I just battered him a little
40:31
bit more and a lot of people was look and not skill how long's a struggle take would you say so each game was about two
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hours and I think a struggle took about anywhere between a half an hour to 40 minutes the the second one took us ages
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because they took a war thing just kept going on and on and on so he'd like begin it close to here and then I'd be
40:49
pulling it back to me and then he'll be pulling it back to him so I think the second struggle took so long but because I'd already won one well I think we had
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about 20 minutes left of game time anyway yeah and if he'd won that struggle then we would have just seen
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what happened with the the third we wouldn't have got much of a game in but yeah but I was lucky to like this idea of the move engage yeah yeah and also
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what is really interesting again is chucking weird rules and you you start off with like this clear Block in the center and you have like a black box at
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the edge of both of yours because it's like numbered eight to one and if that clear one goes into the opponent's side
41:22
you adjust your Black Cube to seven because it's in theirs and if you kill someone you adjust it to six then if it
41:28
still stays in there you adjust it so the struggle becomes easy for you if you manage to pull that cue back towards you
41:34
because you've been finding it harder and yeah you've killed some stuff but yeah so it does make a difference on
41:39
like you know it's a fairly interesting mechanics it's really different it's now in a
41:45
weird way it feels quite narrative because it's very hero driven yeah and I guess that makes sense with like Heroes
41:51
not necessarily dying and there's some really good rules as well uh and that I
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came across a a moment where I had Anakin do a thing but because I was playing against Dooku ah when you do
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that thing I can do this thing before you do that thing which is like um like these quotes from films and stuff like
42:08
that um but yeah so Dooku can then do a thing and then you're like well I can do my thing now you do think oh you've now
42:14
done a trigger with my character where I can do another thing you're like oh my God so my one turn of hitting him with
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like my lightsaber took ages because there was like all these trigger points that were going off which made it quite fun and narrative at the same time it
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did take a little bit of like where are we now yeah what's going on now but as skirmish games go I enjoyed it um I Now
42:33
understand it I think if I play it more um I'll get more of an understanding and but there was a
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lot of information thrown at me on that day in a good way but but I'm on best
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painted army I say Army it was like 16 figures but hey okay so uh so thank you Rob what I do feel good because because
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Suggs went around and like judged people's armies when we weren't paying attention yeah because we got out for
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lunch and it would have been like the YouTube uh video like from yeah I used YouTube stuff yeah absolutely so uh so
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thank you for I owe your fiber Suggs so uh not only do you offer a painting
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guide for Shatter for Shatter points on this channel you offer an award winner
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oh my God I'm going to change the video title right now yeah yeah oh good spot
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yeah yeah it's an award-winning painted army yes there we go yeah paint chatter point to an award-winning standard
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written itself yeah but as as experiences go I really
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enjoyed it and everyone was just super great and super awesome so my my fear of tournaments is has been abated I've got
43:43
to be honest I went on Saturday to go and say hello to Grandma stavala upper Games Workshop and that was Bonkers
43:50
really oh you know where they've been two aside it was two versus two it was Bonkers and I've never seen
43:57
um there was someone's dressed up and they do someone in complete cosplayers sanguineous nice there was a plane as
44:02
well yeah there was people there was people yeah he had wings there was people um with
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like entire hats that were like three-fourths of Highway they had like a Goose's head on top of their own heads
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oh it was just really really odd it was lovely to watch what was the event it was just um two versus 240k so like just
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doubles yeah yeah and it was absolutely Bonkers but it was nice to see and then
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the guy cosplaying is sang anyways sangrinius just playing Black Legion [Laughter]
44:35
was like dressed up or wearing really bizarre hats and it was it was really nice but you know because obviously it's
44:40
like four people around the table that you'd only have two people around the table it was okay yeah yeah it was
44:47
really cool I've done a couple of doubles in the past and that I found doubles quite good because you got and
44:52
it sounds really weird you got someone to riff off and like okay could we just check that route you remember that reminder yeah yeah absolutely right so
44:58
you got back like backup but when you're on your own it's all it's all on your own yeah sort of steam and stuff but doubles tend to back I I I've always
45:05
experienced um encourage friendlier sort of competitive play but then that that's my
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old interpretation of tournaments whereas that's kind of been something
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yeah yeah I I still really enjoyed myself I had a great time no one was there to smash me into the ground I just
45:23
lost through incompetence through being new and being new yeah I did all right you know yeah I've played two games of
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tenth Edition how did you get on
45:36
um one well basically agreed that I probably I've got one in the bag which
45:41
was the first one and then the second one uh it was we were only playing against the contents uh it was just
45:46
content of Leviathan yeah so it's a little bit it's it's very much in favor
45:52
of the Marines the points aren't equal yeah I've heard yeah yeah so we played what we had and
45:59
um and in the second game against uh my good pal Tim we um I think he was a little bit more
46:06
aggressive with the big with the bigger things in the the 200 Army yeah and he brought them forwards he kept the little
46:12
things at the back because he was a bit panicking about the um Terminators coming on and it was it was really good
46:17
and I I know there's plenty of you out there going oh I hate 10th edition and I'm sorry if you're not getting you're
46:23
not getting the best out of it because I know it's sometimes hard with games changing but um I liked it and I liked
46:29
the fact that it's so much quicker to set up in the fact you're not you're not bogged down with like three or four
46:34
bloody books and yeah in fact don't even bog down with a book because you can have other cards just the cards it does
46:40
make things a little bit easier just go no I'm going card three or or you can lay them all out and just go ah that card yeah but um yeah I liked it I I
46:48
liked the fact that it just felt a little bit Slicker in that Army building I know we were playing what was in the
46:53
box but Army building you know takes about 10 minutes because you're playing in fives or tens and all the weapons are
46:58
baked into the price so you know you're not having to go oh angle if I take a multi-melt around many
47:06
you've got some there but what if you were to pick one cool new mechanic what
47:11
do you think I personally really like Battleship okay yeah I really like battle shock I like
47:16
um I like the idea that um if you fail your morale you
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um you you can be an objective and now you you don't have any points to hold it because obviously everybody has an an OC
47:29
but marker being that objective control on how and obviously if there's a load of Marines you add all of them numbers
47:34
together and that's what you've got but if you if you're on there on your own and then you you you fail your battle
47:40
shock yeah it's yeah yeah you're in a bit of a panic because you're now not controlling it any longer and also as
47:46
well as that um if you fall back on like your opponents have fallen back if you fall back you
47:52
you you can have a much more harder time with it if you want to fall back out of combat and things like that but it's
47:58
it's really cool I I know some people are saying it's a little bit over strength I like the Marines have a ram
48:03
the Marines have a skill called um oath of moment which I really like which is
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um and I like it because you know what I like about it it feels like there is a commander on the table is the fact that you pick a unit on your of your
48:16
opponent's side and it's everyone shoots at that it doesn't shoot that yeah you
48:22
pick one unit and you go right that's the oath of moment units and then you re-roll your your hits and your wounds
48:28
but only on that one yeah so I like the idea of like directed fire that a captain's gone that thing's the worry
48:33
yeah yeah yeah killer or whatever it is off the table you know and I quite I quite like that yeah I've I've got to be
48:40
honest I think for me if somebody is a bit like yourself I sometimes when you sit down and eat I just get rules rule book
48:46
blindness yeah I mean you go oh God you know yeah and this this seems much quicker and the fact that you're not
48:53
plowing through a codex you've just got cards out and they're generally everything you need to know is either on the front or the back and it's quite
48:59
easy yeah I just liked it and I thought you know going forwards when I get into playing with my eldest Boy again I think
49:05
from looking out from his point of view without me going well it's not that book son get your other book out and a box
49:11
covered in bloom and Post-it notes yeah you know where you're at I've got to be honest personally for the level that I
49:17
enjoy playing I liked it you know if you're a tournament player it might not have the depth that you want but
49:23
personally for me for one hour I want to do it which is you know with a for fun
49:28
with a capital f you know what I mean then it was nice yeah so yeah my my have
49:33
you played as death card you've played your decade no I'm not I'm I'm until they get the Codex and you know and I
49:40
don't do that thing you're going oh well the rubber show I'm not bothering but I'm in some ways I'm glad they're rubbish because I want to pull my finger
49:45
out and get leather machine steal a cult as well so I'm gonna play them and I'm gonna go to the element games tournament
49:52
which is being run by March of War uh scenery and Winter's SEO oh yeah so
49:59
um they've got a tournament up at element games up in Stockport on the 1st of October I'm gonna go to that it's
50:05
only it's 1100 points so it's quite quick yeah what do you think 15 or 12. yeah yeah so
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yeah so through the list see how we get on you know yeah well Maxwell make the most of it while uh Gene still are cool
50:17
for good yeah yeah yeah I have been seeing some posts from death guard players being like oh yeah one yeah yeah
50:24
yeah like they they're not I don't know all it is is just 700 comments of people going yay yeah are they still yeah
50:33
they're still not great quote unquote bad although Games Workshop have said that when they come round to the next
50:38
meta watch in however many months it is they will probably have a look at something out with them I don't know how
50:44
they got out of the studio that bad but I don't write games so I don't like to point fingers because I wouldn't like the job of trying to make everything
50:49
balanced well I mean you used to like play tested but they don't have them as much in the uh when I was there they didn't get much time to play test during
50:55
that yeah so all the
51:03
[Music] um because all the external protesters were like well not all of them uh so
51:08
over exaggeration but a lot of the leaks were coming from well they say that but
51:13
the leaks are still coming so yeah yeah so I think that it was like they stopped
51:19
it because they thought some of the leaks were coming from them but actually the leaks still continue now they don't have them the funny thing is is that you
51:26
know for all people going oh do you still calls are ridiculously strong and but I think to be fair is I've looked at
51:33
the GC occult list and I think it's you can tell it's good but I know
51:39
that it's still going to take me a reasonable chunk of brain power to figure out how to make those great synergies but I've still got to figure
51:45
out how to make them work it's not just to put them on and these things almost play themselves you've got to yeah you
51:50
still know these guys are only fire and gun very very average guns on very very very poor dice rolls yeah and it's like
51:57
get it you on you aren't playing kill your opponent you're playing capture the objective Fair first and foremost you
52:04
know you play Marines you go right I can play this where I kill my way across the board yeah yeah and other armies do the
52:09
same but Gene steel Cults it's all about having to work out where you can be when you can be and I'm pulling little things
52:15
like that off and I think you know I think that they're doing well in tournament is still attributed to people
52:24
playing well in tournaments it's not just turning up with an army that's just doing it on its own you've still got a
52:29
bit of brain power which is why I'll probably still do really badly with them say so how did you manage to win no
52:37
games for them yeah because it's thick I mean I I once went to a tournament I
52:44
think it was a double zameen Duncan and uh someone left on the Saturday and still did better than us
52:49
so you know just happens you remember because you're talking about data sheets there's a really um with Shadow Point
52:56
there's a really interesting thing because you get like your character cards and stuff and you get like a weapons card or it tells you a dice you
53:01
need for like certain things um and the dice kind of remind me a bit of Legion because you get like hits Critical Hits something called expertise
53:08
which you depending on when you get to tell tell you what kind of things you get from it then you get misses but it
53:14
looks like a civ4 tech tree so you get like uh so you've ever played civilization before you're just like I'm
53:19
going to research this and it gives you this like oh ladder oh yeah yeah yeah yes yeah it's a bit like that so like if
53:24
you've got wrecks and you you I've managed to roll my dice but after all like you know the defenses and the
53:29
blocks and it's not the other I've got I've got four dices worth of hits on you yeah so you go dice number one does the
53:36
first thing dice number two do I go up there or do I go down here so that so it gives you a different Dynamic of so or P
53:42
it might give you more aggression and more wounds but down here might push them away so if they're on an objective
53:48
you can push them off the objective and then you can advance as well because it might be like a little jump thing for you to get closer and stuff so you have
53:54
to be quite clever depending on the situation where yeah you decide to go and then like Jedi have two sides so you
54:01
can go for a defensive stance or more an aggressive stance oh that's quite cool but if you go for a more aggressive stance you can't change that until your
54:07
next Activation so your defense dice are lower so you're more like so you're like you're hitting harder but then you're
54:12
getting less dice to roll when yeah Maul is a fun excuse me is a beast okay and
54:18
we deal with literally like MVP of the games I played he was just running everywhere just smashing stuff to Pieces so yeah you're like I'm gonna go
54:24
aggressive I'm gonna go gem Zoe with um well he is famously a big cross he is very cross he is very close uh which is
54:30
what I want to bring the you know the the the light side back to him yeah yeah but yeah I was just thinking when you're
54:36
talking about data sheets just remind me that was like a really interesting Dynamic on the the cards where you have your weapons card and they just have a
54:42
different sort of Avenue you can take depending on the day yeah I also thought it was something to do with data sheets
54:48
um and potentially address a comment I saw on the Steve box van Gogh Tactics video
54:53
about stuff going to Legends we've had even more stuff oh really get moved over
54:59
haven't we so like loads of the firstborn essentially yeah yeah yeah I mean it was honestly it's been a high
55:05
time since they've been retired yeah I'm pardon the pump it's been on the data cards for a while it has been on the
55:12
data cards but the thing is is they move notes Legends but you know the Games Workshop could have when Nick bendy brought the
55:19
box of marine cards out they could have just not put them in uh because they knew they were going to do it but they didn't they still printed cards out for
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them so if you played in The Four Walls of your mates out it doesn't make any date yeah so you can either sometimes
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they won't get they won't get fudge For Better or for Waste yeah on the line because is it now they've kind of blurred the lines between firstborn and
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primaris yeah so like if you have the old bikes you can use the primaris outriders and as like a proxy or
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something you can do the only problem being you've got is that first born Marine bikers could carry weapons
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that's just like that's just a cool looking pose yeah the rules say this I've been thinking on that very same
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thing I've been thinking about because I thought I quite like one for the Army is building out of just primaris Parts is
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um Captain on bike because there's no primaris Captain on bike there's a chaplain on bike but there's no primaris
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Captain on bike yeah and I thought I could build him and then when I put him on the table just go just captain on
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bike it's yeah you know what I mean it doesn't matter you know it doesn't matter and then yeah you know and then I'd be really chuffed with and then game
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Direction I could bring one out so it's far better and I cry and yeah but you were there first yeah I'll be there yeah
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first yeah so there is a so there's an old captain on bike sorry is that there's an old captain on bike yeah but
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there's no so I just thought I'll just build one yes it makes you know visually it makes very little difference does it
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you know yeah yeah but it's a shame to see some of these things go because they were there when I
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first came into the hobby but a lot of tanks are getting rid of no one's playing or using thousands of people
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yeah I love that tank what are you saying yeah I mean the thing to remember is like you know people have invested
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lots of money I always think of those that when primaries were coming out it was evident that they wanted to remove
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all the first yeah the time they were just Marines they weren't called firstborn but they wanted to remove them all and then just revamp the range yeah
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I know that's like a lot of the sculptures that's what that's what their aim was that's what they thought of what was happening because these things have
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been sculpted like two three years before a thing um so they they thought they were
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re-doing the range yeah to a certain point um but when like primaries came out and
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it was like the um Gathering storm books you'd only just had like Stern guard and
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uh devastating squads that have been really redone yeah it was Stone God or Vanguard I can't remember it was one of the two sort of elite squads
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um they'd only just come out so I was like well they've only just come out people are probably painting that's a bit of a weird thing just to now remove
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their more forms yeah from sale and obviously being a hobbyist and having vast collections of stuff you know
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there's so many people out there that have done entire companies entire chapters even using those models you
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suddenly saying you can't use your stuff anymore yeah that's gonna bring the pitch folks out right yeah so it's been a what eight years
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seven years not for primaris I think so yeah yeah because they came out in
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eighth didn't they they did and I'd be like ninth and when I went to 10th and every three years I was in oh yeah
58:28
marketing for five so one more TV yeah for nearly a year and it was over a year
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before I uh well well over a year yeah before I left
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um uh Studio to go to marketing so yeah it's coming up to seven or five over seven I think one of the problems they
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had was when they released primarus it was so tentative the release that you thought yep it's a
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bit who will get off the pot wasn't it it was like sort of like we released them what yeah about that expert I was
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trying to not have to put a bleep in but you know but you know do something or don't and you sort of yeah it was a bit
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half-assed wasn't it oh we've we've done these but you could probably maybe need some of them and next thing they sort of
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left people with this thing of just going you know we haven't give you all of the things that you need to do primaris and
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I think yeah and then I think that to some degree hell though like this bit of Hope for about firstborn players are going well you know they haven't made
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any jump pack Marines in prime or so they have amazing yeah them in primarks they haven't made that taken a long time
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and it was you know especially because Isaac my boy went I don't want to play any of the little ones and I was like
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because you when we bought them we bought it was primaris it was in our companion it was Prime Morris was like I
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don't want to play any of that ones I want to make an army just out of this and it's like you then looked at the range and you
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went you've got your way of course I was a little bit Kidder because it's not it's not covering all of the bases particularly well you know I mean
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there's two reasons for it in my head in reason one is because I was there and experienced it they don't want to upset
1:00:01
too many people too soon yeah so so you're uh you're kind of like jimming them in which is then added to what
1:00:07
already exists yeah but then there's like oh release these you know like spoon feed a little bit at a time and
1:00:14
it's got to the point now where it's like yeah we're gonna be doing Scouts too we're going to be doing a solution and it's like they're all gonna just
1:00:20
it's just the new way space means look like well there's yeah there's my question um 11th Edition
1:00:27
will the Codex have any firstborn I don't think it will no well I mean you know there are so many factions that
1:00:34
have been updated you know that you take dracari when jakaria were redone by jez that would probably have done by Jazz
1:00:40
the first time around as well as Gary Morley but um when he revamped the range
1:00:46
all those dark Elder Warriors the old ones were no longer available on websites yeah and no and no one went oh
1:00:52
no that's really annoying because they're my favorite models ever they were okay and they they served a purpose
1:00:57
for a time because they're of their time yeah but when you start getting cooler new shapes and designs and like convertibility it's just like that's
1:01:04
what they are now oh and then you start buying them for months and you know there'll be something like well I prefer the dark the old Dark Eldar that's how
1:01:10
I've always liked them and that's how I always want to build them that's cool but you know you've only got limited time to get them off the show because why make these things that no one's
1:01:17
gonna buy anymore well it's like same as me go well do you know what I want to go it's like going I want to go into my car
1:01:22
local car Ford showroom and go I once not the Ford Focus this one or the last
1:01:28
one but the Ford Focus before that one and I want it brand new get me one and you go but we can't because we've updated it twice instead you know yeah
1:01:35
yeah you know yeah let's get updated and people go well it's an expensive hobby it is expensive but you know my first my
1:01:43
first team of Marines back in third edition I could still feel them now yeah and I
1:01:50
got into Hobby in 19 now the first time I'm going to was 1998. I could still if I was playing firstborn Marines I could
1:01:56
still feel that Squad of Marines now yeah and you think that's not a bad run
1:02:01
on a hobby is it how many blooming Wheels chains and sprockets and Blum and mountain bike frames would you have been
1:02:08
through in 20 something plus years if you oh like threw yourself down a hill every weekend yeah yeah you know I mean
1:02:14
a few mountain bikes as often as some people game how many blooming things have you bought for your bike and I know I'm probably annoying so many people are
1:02:20
watching I'm sorry but I mean it's like I'm a guard player right so for a long time it was only metals yeah you
1:02:27
couldn't get the old plastic guard and that no longer you know they're really old classic yeah so it was all metal and
1:02:33
then they brought out the catch hands was like Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah rambos from the the death world you can get those in
1:02:38
plastic now I'm like cool yeah which were a different scale to the actual metal ones though slightly different scales yeah everything and then they
1:02:45
brought out the cadians which was very different to and again the Plastics at that time so they in the Cadence until
1:02:52
very recently until they've been redone we're slightly taller than all the metals anyway so you've lost that scale
1:02:57
and now they brought out the new Canadians which are even taller than the last ones so someone like me who's got
1:03:03
old Metals the Canadians which have kick bash to to have it back and then the new
1:03:08
Canadians everything's a different scale yeah so I'm used to that different scale
1:03:13
thing but I'd like them all to be the same so I'm just like well going forward now I might as well just keep just using the new cadians and they sound the other
1:03:19
and yeah made my piece with that and I think Marines being the vast majority of what people get into and buy yeah
1:03:25
they've had a longer run yes to what yeah right people collected and the
1:03:30
weapon's been pretty good yeah so so daru players or orc players uh they they
1:03:36
that their turnarounds on scales have been a lot quicker yeah because it's like well not many people as in
1:03:41
comparison Colette them in comparison to the Marines so yeah I'd say very generous with their time scale for
1:03:46
Marines well if you look if you look at the new um if the rumors are to build which I think they probably are that the
1:03:52
next kill Team box when the next season a kill team be in death Wales the rumor is that it's going to be a Space Marine
1:03:58
primary sized Scouts versus uh cat a chance
1:04:04
yeah this is stroking scorpions you think how long is it since the Striking so yeah I mean that was just crazy there
1:04:10
was a time they were talking about doing two for kits for um the aspect Warriors so like you're I think it was like
1:04:15
striking scorpions and Howling benches because they have similar poses of running you just have different torsos and heads yeah and then I think it was
1:04:22
warp spiders and dark Reapers um because they have similar kind of like little spiders are kicking on
1:04:28
aren't they Jesus Christ they're well over 20 something years old it's interesting like when when I read the uh
1:04:34
article about the the firstborn bikes like getting taken out and you're saying 1998 that was so I was either eight or
1:04:43
nine at the time thanks Pat and um and I bought a set of those bikes
1:04:49
yeah and that seems like so long ago to think that I could still field them yeah um I guess like as a proxy or whatever
1:04:57
but I mean how many how many Tellies PlayStations Xboxes how how many phones
1:05:02
how many things in your life have you gone yeah cause an avalanche how many things have you gone through with you
1:05:08
that you you know which you have as a recreational thing in your life yeah yeah that you've gone through quite a
1:05:13
few prison sentences
1:05:29
I think I heard it at one of the weekends it was like something about oh and the best life sentence of all
1:05:35
marriage did you assault the person who said it
1:05:41
no I did not um my least favorite thing that I hear at weddings and I think it's only
1:05:47
because I've heard it like a lot um well no it's not I've heard it a lot
1:05:52
and I don't like it um is they say okay like if it's a
1:05:58
traditional heterosexual couple they'll say okay wife put your hand on the table this is during the best man speech the
1:06:03
best man will be like wife put your hand on the table um and then from looking around going what what's going on and they're like
1:06:09
groom put your hand over the top and it's like that's the last time you'll have the upper hand because it's like
1:06:15
you married in your life's over um and then what's the other one oh they
1:06:20
say like look into each other's eyes and it's like you're now looking at the person who statistically most likely to
1:06:26
kill you yeah um and I'm like oh my God does it look like yeah so I've never been I've never
1:06:33
been a best man but I've wrote some people I've mainly when they come into the shop I'm going oh I'm best man and I
1:06:38
don't know what to write and I have some little bits that I've sort of bounced around me I didn't go use this one you know and I was one oh yeah it's one of
1:06:44
the ones I see for best man it's so much better than the last so much better than the last one I attended where the bride
1:06:50
and the cake were wearing the same outfit quite inoffensive yeah yeah that's good
1:06:56
I've yet to do the one if you've got um you know have you got any keys for the apartment can you have you had that I've
1:07:02
seen that once I saw it on TV once I was like wow that's horrific and then I've seen it at a wedding before yeah where
1:07:09
it's like was it like um is it like oh if you you know they they're married now
1:07:14
so they're and they're essentially saying that they're going to keep it between the two of them so if you have a
1:07:20
key and you previously went around and sought Services of of nature uh and then
1:07:27
people get up and drop keys off and it's like like some like an uncle got up
1:07:33
that's weird yeah yeah I'm gonna edit to your face there we go close up
1:07:42
I mean it's like I mean yeah it's so yeah like there's some that are just
1:07:47
a bit iffy yeah um and others that you just hear like I've heard so many times that they're just not funny anymore to
1:07:54
that the what the best one my um the best one that I thought because it was a really good uh Icebreaker was my cousin
1:08:00
is like me Liverpool lad and he's my Mary's A really lovely person called
1:08:06
Claire and she's from down south and we had this very very Posh wedding in a place called Farnham castle and my
1:08:13
cousin got up and he said uh when he was doing the groom speech he said right he said I know you have all watched Jeremy
1:08:19
Kyle and I know you all have stereotypes of what people are like from different parts of the country it's obviously one
1:08:25
half of the results Scouts is the other half the room so people from South and he goes but I want to put them for years
1:08:31
to rest right now he went I've lived in the south of England for like about seven or eight years now and I don't
1:08:36
think they are thieves or robbers and it was really funny it was just pure
1:08:43
coincidence I think she was going to get some and my cousin's mum reached down and got a handbag and put it on the
1:08:48
table I think he's just gonna get like you know tissue or something like and he quick as a pleasure no Ma I've told you it's all right leave it on the floor
1:08:55
they won't touch you really it's a great such a great
1:09:01
Icebreaker you know what I mean yeah but you must see oh I I feel for you because you must stand there go oh what this
1:09:07
again yeah yeah but then like when it gets a big laugh I'm sort of like oh yeah like like that's everyone's first
1:09:13
time that's up here yeah oh yeah like I stopped counting weddings
1:09:19
after I did over 300. like I've lost count now yeah I suppose as well like from your point of view it's profession
1:09:25
you do it every day where it's like yeah I remember someone said to me when we were getting married it's like everyone's there to support you yes so
1:09:31
no matter what happens if you screw it up and whatever they're just there to support you yeah yeah obviously you're looking at it from more of a business
1:09:36
point of view that joke again it's the 77th time I think yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know it's different you
1:09:43
don't have that emotional connection I suppose I had a crack investment speech over the
1:09:49
weekend that was that was good because it was more like a few gentle jibes but you read the room you know this
1:09:54
Grandma's around and and keep it relatively firm but it was just quite nice but I think that's like I like it
1:10:00
when people are nice and all that sort of stuff whereas you know I guess I'm not the target audience like like other
1:10:06
people would be like oh yeah tell that story about when he was naked it fell into a canal and and like yeah because
1:10:13
everyone wants to hear that yeah yeah yeah and then the old um what's the one
1:10:19
I hear it all the time took me a while to hear it somebody told me about it I've never had that one it's like Bingo
1:10:24
uh and it's like oh and like the honeymoon in Wales oh right going to Bangor for two weeks
1:10:31
[Music] before I'm already grown
1:10:37
yeah isn't there isn't anyone in Ireland as well a banger
1:10:57
yeah yeah so someone could make that joke and then nobody would get it yeah or well less less people oh two
1:11:04
audiences will get it yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah they were like having a week
1:11:09
in Wales and a week in Northern Ireland you have to explain the joke yeah um but apologies are derailed that uh I mean I
1:11:17
was gonna scoot onto a small subject which is along the lines of the firstborn being retired
1:11:23
um it saddened me to say this but it feels that the ventrily Nobles will no longer be a thing because also I'm not
1:11:29
God man I know I know I'm bracing for it and I do need to order some but the feather on my hat my truth the free
1:11:36
Guild range has been retired outriders yeah the outrider stroke pistol here I I imagine they'll come
1:11:43
back when old will kicks in let's hope so so oh it'll be nice oh yeah because they're bringing about the Tony and
1:11:48
stuff oh yeah so yeah they probably currently are they having a Hiatus well
1:11:53
because of all the new sick um citizen Sigma stuff that's coming out which is Mega
1:11:58
is awesome which is Mega and we were I can't remember what we were talking about but we're looking at the new sort
1:12:04
of I think it was probably on live stream there's the new set it's got some Hounds in it some dogs oh yeah it's like
1:12:10
also a war cry set dog Squad yeah so someone said that's also Paw Patrol londenberg friend of the show yeah did
1:12:18
you know that's for Warcraft as well and I went over the article and it's like yeah this is awesome so it's a unit for
1:12:24
um age Sigma ball so yeah a war band for war cry which is quite cool I still think we should do a video where I mean
1:12:30
we need to do a video where we paint every miniature version of Sean Bean we can we do that is that can't not not
1:12:36
happen yeah and we also have to do a video where we paint like every Warhammer dog yeah yeah
1:12:44
because you've got the rotten dogs the direwolves yeah the scary dogs the uh the warhounds yeah some reason walls we
1:12:51
count Squig squiggounds squigs I don't know I don't know yeah the word Hound is in the title but it's yeah
1:12:57
wolves they're kind of doggy yeah are they yeah but or do we yeah how
1:13:04
strict do you keep it like because you have like the Cyber Mastiff and yeah like you know like I think of like a dog
1:13:10
as in smaller than a human yeah um yeah we'll talk about before but you know our
1:13:15
confrontation game I used to play yes it had um there's a city called cadwalan which is
1:13:21
the city of Thieves yeah and you could play that as well yeah yeah which was always what confrontation did it weave
1:13:28
the games that they could all be played in and out of each other and um cadwalan was the city of Thieves and you could
1:13:33
play as a role-playing game but it all had like different guilds like the assassins guild the thieves guilds and
1:13:39
all these but then you had the cadwallan um militia and they had a guy in it which was really cool they had this tall
1:13:45
guy and he's got literally like in his hand out stretch he's got like a partial warrant oh cool yeah I'm two really two
1:13:53
big um two big like pit bulls on a lead and then another one off the lead with big colors on it was such a lovely model
1:14:00
that's cool you know what I looked as well what are the Cadwell members was it um was a dwarf who had a crossbow so
1:14:06
he's obviously like you know crack shot of possibly big glasses
1:14:12
I just thought it was such a great bag oh that's a good character maybe you can
1:14:17
like see 40 meters in the distance but anything closer than that is like a chef as well yeah I mean he still had like
1:14:23
swords and shields and but he had like the pans and everything that was on his gear and his uh well the rest of them had like cross swords and stuff on it he
1:14:30
had like a massive big fork and a massive big ladles so European in styling guys lovely range
1:14:38
really really lovely so yeah so but truly Noble sorry at this moment in time dead well I don't know why they're in
1:14:44
the rules you can't get the models well if they've
1:14:52
been taking off you you can probably go to bit sites and all yeah look I've got like a white a lot left in me yeah you made
1:14:59
your Sigma bag but and then when they come when the old book comes back out again we'll be like oh no update
1:15:04
eventually a noble video I'm surprised well I'm not surprised I'm
1:15:11
surprised they've lasted that long yeah I mean how old are they well they they could because they removed the
1:15:17
plutonians quite early days with age of Sigma it was it was a surprise they kept a lot of the Empire but yeah they made
1:15:22
the rules of the free Guild the free gun cities and stuff I would have thought they would have done the free Guild stuff a lot earlier
1:15:28
um yeah but you know it's up to this point now where citizen Sigma are quite popular so then I guess that's why it's
1:15:33
been revamped but um sad but also excited to see what I could do with other conversions yeah
1:15:41
it's just it was just more of a sort of get your creative juices flowing like
1:15:46
you don't just have to use them to come in the set do a head swap and that's really what the eventually enables started off as was that it's just a
1:15:51
heads up on a color Choice yeah change yeah so there's so many different kits out there you can still do that with
1:15:57
yeah make your own regiments make update eventually enables give them a
1:16:03
different vibe I mean I I uh popped Cherry I um I did my first uh kit bash I
1:16:11
guess oh yeah well I've obviously done the stupid joke once um well you guys oh yes of course the uh
1:16:18
the Mighty Ducks yeah yeah this charity project that I'm uh oh I watched you already I watched your interview as well
1:16:23
yeah um and the all these are is a head swap
1:16:29
um and you put a pointy um pointy beak on for the space Ducks
1:16:34
there's like a community uh painting project um and yeah it was quite funny because it was like I took took the uh
1:16:41
Terminator heads from um oh mine is why is my brain makes gray
1:16:47
nights definitely spares by the way because I want to do one yes yeah I do yeah I've I've opened the box so um yeah
1:16:53
and and it was like oh no it doesn't fit because these are like flat uh the body says it's like a flat and then the head
1:16:59
is like quite round and that's oh my God yeah get my clippers I am Pete the wargamer
1:17:07
well it's like you're able to walk in but you put inaccessible pouches on it just to wire me up no I did this it's
1:17:13
almost almost confessed to the day that was a thing he was doing just yeah yeah yeah I think when we when we raided him on
1:17:20
Twitch he was it was like he was because he's making some Raptors so yeah I think
1:17:25
that was mentioned um but yeah like something super simple and um like yes surprisingly not like it's
1:17:33
super difficult it's such an interesting thing to to behold when people were like oh I can't do kit bashing I can't do
1:17:38
converting it's too complicated it's not my cup of tea and when you show like you can just literally swap her head and
1:17:44
then they do it then they go down it's that weird thing where they go down the rabbit hole after that because like oh maybe I'll swap a hand yeah I'll swap a
1:17:50
weapon maybe yeah swap torsos yeah and you don't have to have green stuff in skill you don't have to be like a 3D
1:17:56
sculptor you can just swap parts as long as they're fittings and even if the fittings aren't the same
1:18:01
chisel away until ill yeah maybe you can be in your case and decide you're taking all our macrillos off your Terminators
1:18:06
oh yeah how's that going all right actually I've done three out of five of them so far I don't know what I'm gonna do I'll either do all of them or because
1:18:13
we're going to get another box of Terminators I might leave a chest yeah yeah I might leave some of them where they've got somehow wearing them and
1:18:19
some arms I can't quite make them use it to clip and muff um I initially use just a normal set of
1:18:27
Clippers just take the bulk off and then I go in with a scalpel and then I go in with some uh wet and dry something have
1:18:33
you not got like a little rotary hobby tool is there quite good I have but the one that I have seems to be like is it's
1:18:39
a really good one from Aldi but it's like a rotary hobby tool on on steroids you know it's put a hole right through
1:18:45
the Terminator through my thumb from Hobbycraft years ago it has like
1:18:51
three settings which is slow slightly faster than slow and then sort of like
1:18:57
I've got a bit of effort oh you see myself I got very fast at all it just goes
1:19:03
so cool maybe I think he's on retirement you know my like the slowest one is like sound barrier speed of light you know
1:19:11
I've seen I've seen that I've seen your tool yeah um
1:19:18
Jesus yeah I've gone through this I've gone through
1:19:24
this through the table but he's perhaps better for the job
1:19:29
for the right job mine's on retirement and it's tiny cool
1:19:35
mine's too big and it does too much damage yeah yeah rotary tools people yeah because like a rotary tool from
1:19:44
Aldi is is like rating is about 15 quid being a builder or something yeah it was about 15 quid from Aldi and it's really
1:19:50
good and it comes to the whole route but you know what I on reflect it's like keep it for you scenery Don't Go Near me
1:19:56
it's just too it's just too full-on yeah you know but um yeah so I've been scraping them off just by hand basically
1:20:03
and it's worked out okay and I've done all of them have a small Temple across the middle on one side they have the the
1:20:10
icon for being uh Elite that's that big chunky cross the flat topped one I've
1:20:16
got that on one side and then on the other side which came from our friends in Japan sander Oh Yeah from
1:20:22
uh scumbag and he uh did uh come by custom sorry he did he does uh some nice
1:20:29
Temple tackles so on this side they've all got a bit of script cool which has got to win it starts with a Templar star
1:20:36
or something where the Templar across yeah so they've got three different things I want them to almost be like
1:20:41
walking Billboards of how fanatical they are about what they're into you know I mean I've just literally wearing all of
1:20:48
their their details across the chest about it you know yeah okay they look okay when the finished Squadron yeah
1:20:54
yeah oh no awesome um yeah so I'm gonna
1:21:00
if I'm gonna round up I'm gonna paint some more Shadow Point stuff I'm excited yeah oh I mean I'm in the I'm in the
1:21:06
mood in the zone I tell you I'm struggling with at the moment I'm uh red on you read on your custodies yes
1:21:14
well because I I you're procrastinating yeah I am procrastinating by like
1:21:20
painting a space duck because you know what though you can Grime looks great doesn't it when you look at the ones that have Ministry to completely to the
1:21:26
ones that have it looks really good yeah yeah I'm super into uh I'm going through my streaking ground phase at the moment
1:21:33
as a painter I could appreciate the the difficult yeah yeah yeah I'm going
1:21:38
through the phase of like using talent in a bottle paints rather than developing my own skill I've been there
1:21:45
for years yeah it does the job that didn't it yeah I think I think that's it like I'm getting results that I like yeah yeah uh and I did want to go for
1:21:52
like a grimy look but yeah these custodians just to say if Dave Andrews was here are you happy with the paint
1:21:57
jobs yes yes yeah I think that's it but yeah I'm
1:22:02
I'm I'm I'm making progress with my custards oh that's my test model
1:22:07
um but yeah I've just like um just got so wrapped up in in how to
1:22:14
paint a Red Cloak and then I was looking at like every metal recipe so I'm like why am I don't do that this is
1:22:20
ridiculous eat your brain yeah yeah um I mean could you not just start off with just because I know you've unlike
1:22:26
several figures now doing different red recipes just get a mid-tone red and yeah and leave it at that for the moment yeah until everything's done yeah yeah no
1:22:34
one's going to take them off you so you can always go back to many years time yeah yeah when you've got around them I
1:22:39
want them like done for a video that's the only thing um and then I've got other video ideas I want to move on to uh like doing some
1:22:46
space joke ones I can't paint all them off camera yeah oh yeah I'll be like here's my space dog video they're all
1:22:53
done yeah um so yeah anyway we go but yeah next week yeah I think I need to
1:22:58
I've I've put these off for a little while I think you know maybe a break was good I've been Mega busy as well but yeah yeah I think that is it what was I
1:23:05
talking to about that sometimes you just have to put things to the side that was Scott one of the one twins I was doing
1:23:11
because he's struggled to do armies and units and now that he's had like a
1:23:16
finish unit near he can keep looking at him and going oh yeah I can do this I can do it yeah and I was and sometimes
1:23:21
like because when he'd first done them it was a bit like I'm not happy with them he had all these like thoughts because he was still into like the
1:23:28
minutia was staring at him yeah I was like yeah it's a standard like mentality Army painters get it all the time like
1:23:33
yeah I'm doing a unit at 40. I'm like halfway through I'm not happy I go off
1:23:39
get a cup of tea come back and you can spot what it is that's not making you happen it just could be like the tone of gold or yeah I the red just needs to
1:23:46
finish in or whatever yeah um and then sometimes like you go away for the weekend come back carry on with the unit and again fresh eyes it's
1:23:52
always a fresh icing but having a unit finished that's Army painted or to a certain level that's just in front of you remind you of what you can get to if
1:23:59
you push through yeah yeah and I think as well it's been quite a good um like experience with painting these
1:24:07
is is like pre streaking Grime um like they are just like Mega bright
1:24:15
um quite flat yeah like very flat I mean and this is with the pink and white
1:24:21
um primer as well it's made the yellow go on really well yeah yeah and and I feel like I am super happy like kind of
1:24:28
like with how it looks but then but then you put the streaking Grime on and you're like yeah and that's quite an easy win early on yeah which is quite
1:24:34
nice and then like from the Richard Gray chat that we've had um when he was like oh I'll paint up a
1:24:42
hand because I want to see what that looks like done otherwise I'll just like use yeah yeah motivation right with him
1:24:48
painting Dante and stuff and doing it section it's interesting because that's how they do their test models because
1:24:53
for me I do a whole model for an army whereas like if you're heavy metal or you're doing exhibition painting you have to do like an arm and you can see
1:25:00
the end result yeah it's such a like because I was always how how do they test do they test it on a whole figure
1:25:06
but yeah it made sense when he was like yeah I just do an arm and then I'm happy yeah yeah I bitten Bob if I'm getting
1:25:12
bored of doing something like I've been doing 10 meters now for a few days and I just got balls of another and I bought it all the way back at salute and I went
1:25:19
right and putting them down and I just built I built which again building I think clears the brain a little yeah and
1:25:25
then I just did uh it's not quite finished yet but I've been doing the Invictus wall suit it's still still
1:25:31
metal still greens like the Terminators but it's such a big much bigger thing it's a bit more tactile to work on and
1:25:37
it was also because the plates were big it's good the armor plates are bigger to give me a chance to crack out um the uh
1:25:44
the Byron brushes and do some dry brushing oh yeah oh yeah we didn't talk about uh visiting isops
1:25:50
we'll talk about that before we finish that was great last Monday wasn't it it
1:25:55
was yeah so well luckily we had a few chats in the bag yeah but yeah
1:26:01
um I love seeing like factories and things being done and like practical
1:26:07
things been created yeah and it's just seeing like all the the tools and equipment they've got and I know Mrs
1:26:12
Peach would love it as well because they had like all the presses that the handmade presses yeah yeah because when he was on the the chat talking about
1:26:18
like they look for old tools as well because they're really hard to get older but they're easy to you know to fix and
1:26:24
replace and stuff but oh the smell of wood Oh see now it was a nice smell but for me it was the smell of
1:26:29
disappointment because I was awful to work at school oh really I just went in there went oh yeah the smell of failure
1:26:36
smell smells such a weird like thing isn't it yeah you can just take you back somewhere like immediately I find that
1:26:42
quite a lot but it was awesome wasn't it yeah it was really cool this whole sort of like
1:26:47
um product line of you know using the CNC machine to cut like bits of like nothing was wasted so when they do like
1:26:54
the different size shelving units yeah within the the panel of wood that they use to layer they just do the smaller
1:27:00
size in the middle yeah and then the next size and the next size and the next I say it's very little that gets wasted and it that that extra then gets 10 it's
1:27:07
like bits of sawdust and stuff yeah yeah but you've seen that being done and the box has been made
1:27:13
um was amazing but like the testing to do for the brushes like most like Byron would say most places have like like one
1:27:19
or two tests some brushes they like test theirs four times yeah like the quality control is really high yeah so they
1:27:24
never picked a bomb was like why are our brush sleeves clear as opposed to like slightly opaque or foggy
1:27:31
um and he was explaining that most of the time people will like look I'm going oh that's not very good I can't really
1:27:37
tell if that's like a good point to it whereas if they're really super clear you can tell
1:27:49
there just like looking at them checking every Point damping them getting to a nice Point putting the sleeve on it's
1:27:55
like yeah and everything making sure it's a good point makes decent quality so yeah everything was getting checked over and over and as usual he was
1:28:02
extraordinarily generous which was very nice some yeah very lovely man yeah we should have hopefully at some stage well
1:28:08
we don't currently have them so we can't show you but uh yeah some some painting phase like dry palettes and yeah yeah
1:28:15
that's gonna be all like texture palettes I guess they're called yeah yeah but yeah it's really fun and then
1:28:21
we went to element games yeah their main element games which was just so ridiculously jealous that it isn't down
1:28:27
the road from my home it's like it's so good yeah it's like going into Willy Wonka's chocolate factory I think it's all the painters now yeah like
1:28:33
everything yeah yeah yeah how many paints all the paintings if I change
1:28:38
another Corner in there and they've just been a Dulux section I wouldn't have been shocked because yeah yeah there's a
1:28:44
section I think I think um the company is now but um that's Mig um they do something called
1:28:51
ammo um yeah ammo by Meg yeah yeah and they um they've got dry paints and both me and Byron are just like oh these are
1:28:57
interesting and I've not used these before and I was like I'm gonna get one as well yeah so I like to use bone as like a nice mid-tone I say mid-tone
1:29:04
there's a nice highlight for scenery just it just hides everything together um and I've had a bit of a play of it it
1:29:09
it's a bit thick and goopy in comparison to like normal acrylics but it covers quite smoothly but then you know Byron's
1:29:16
probably more educated when it comes to like the high-end side of like drivers and like what you can get from it but I
1:29:22
found it quite useful the gaming environment was awesome it's
1:29:27
huge it is a ton of massive massive bar with literal pumps yeah yeah which was
1:29:32
cool and then on the other side um painting areas to the point that you know whoever's looking after that place
1:29:38
really does the fact that even the painting areas for people to come in and just sit and paint add hair dryers plugged in oh brilliant
1:29:45
yeah and then two full walls of scenery yeah and then on over the other side I
1:29:51
was thinking what's what are them cardboard tubes over there and I thought Curry they even have a whole range of
1:29:56
variety of neoprene match for you to put out to change your scenery for oh cool and I was a as gaming environments go I
1:30:02
was really really really impressed yeah you know because and I thought well I thought you know why am I this impressed
1:30:08
when I've got Warhammer World up the the road and you're going but because this I can choose my own scenery yeah oh yeah
1:30:14
instead of having to choose a table at a most like I can actually choose my own scene and go well I don't want to do Hoth I'm going to take all that off put
1:30:20
it over there yeah yeah yeah in the world yeah it was I was really jealous
1:30:26
of that it was all the way up in Stockport because I thought it was really really good yeah and you couldn't want for anything in there you know
1:30:33
that's a Wonder section was really well stocked all the bit all of the games workshopets were really well stocked and
1:30:38
all the other ranges of Miniatures they had as well yeah I mean there was a bit of everything I was like looking for him some of the Mantic treasure crate stuff
1:30:45
and I couldn't find well oh No Just Around Here Yeah Yeah Yeah I left with some oil
1:30:50
paints because you've got good self-control you didn't spend much money there at all did you well like no one
1:30:58
I was like yeah I did all right I only bought you oh no what did I buy I bought uh two oil paints some odorless spirits
1:31:04
and then uh zombie side other zombies yeah yeah which we need to play yeah I
1:31:09
was looking at the Miniatures last night and they're really good yeah so we've got uh necromonda to finish at
1:31:15
some point in the future yeah we've got zombicide to play more time yeah war cry shatter point oh yeah so much we were
1:31:23
talking about having to get a game of um Glorious Day in the chords and we've Marines forever aliens oh yes yeah yeah
1:31:28
yeah yeah oh cool yeah that was good so there's so much out there yeah so much to do let's
1:31:34
not commit to any of it hold us to account I'm not saying we should maybe you know we'll just see yeah we're just
1:31:41
saying that these miniature games exist yeah exactly we're pleased with the two it's yeah
1:31:46
yeah no it is like I guess yeah we've been talking about chat point a lot and all that sort of stuff because it's just
1:31:52
good that they exist yes this is a suggestion not this is not how
1:31:59
could happen I mean we do streaming now and if we have a premises we could get set up and we'd do some games there oh
1:32:06
live stream and gaming would be good yeah yeah but we're learning as we're playing so you know people can just watch and hang out yeah they can look at
1:32:12
the chat and go oh by the way uh monkey Fiddler says that we're using the tracker rule wrong so we just quickly
1:32:19
give it a little thank you monkey Fiddler yeah I want to meet monkey Fiddler though I'll have to hit up uh uh
1:32:26
Mr Vanguard tactics and uh see see what his setup is like for his um editors
1:32:32
hopefully Jeff by accident just gonna leave what I've received said more time possessed so um we talked about doing a
1:32:40
more time game yeah potentially using this new citizen Sigma stuff as well yeah um but yeah I don't want to play Fantasy
1:32:46
goddamn bloody City so Sigma Miniatures are lovely right did you see on
1:32:51
Instagram someone said that there was a day one of them had a little companion with them that looked a lot like you no
1:33:04
yeah I mean I look like most bold people at head office to be fair because so was it a message on Instagram or something
1:33:10
or someone tags us in a story and they were like Oh I thought peachy retired from Games Workshop and it was like
1:33:16
a model with bold man Goblin friends something like that old man Goblin
1:33:22
friend well I mean like so I'm now like it's like hunched over like mutant about
1:33:28
these guys pretty much um was what was what they were saying
1:33:33
you look like um yeah I I can't remember who sent it or offended or both either yeah yeah so
1:33:41
I love looking me yeah I'll look when I get off yeah yeah I'll see if I can find it and stick a picture over your actual
1:33:47
face yeah side by side yeah yeah Photoshop my face have you seen this man wanted yeah yeah
1:33:55
Wicked well I think we've covered most of those bits and Bobs we were going to tournament good enjoyed excellent point
1:34:02
great yeah amazing 10th good yep yeah all right soap is good all right soap is
1:34:08
good yeah everything good yeah giveaway good don't put your comments there in
1:34:13
the YouTube comments because you won't go or do say it's for the help for the
1:34:18
help yeah yeah I'm not gonna say you can't do it just means we won't put you in the drawers yeah yeah join the patreon you have to
1:34:25
be a big draw for them to fit in yeah really big draw like an IQ bottom drawer oh right yeah that is big yeah oh
1:34:34
it's now we've just dropped into nonsense yeah we just we're fading we're fading here we are we need this is how
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we still yeah it takes us a while to warm up but we
1:34:47
cool down rapidly yeah yeah well I think we could everything now turnips well yeah all right yeah hit a
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