Is Space Marine 2 the BEST Warhammer Game? + More Kill Team Chat

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Ross and I'm dead inside y you you had a good week I mean I'm the
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one who's tired I literally walked in today you're all right like yeah I've had no sleep had no sleep so I've had a
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decent amount of sleep [ __ ] you that's it have we started have we doing it
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yeah like you said recording 10 minutes ago we've just been talking said all out
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ter or in in apart from the nipple bit stay till the end yeah stay till the end
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the nipple bit um brilliant so we are officially today for
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those who waited the normal amount of time we are one week into Space Marine 2
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we are we are it's it was a week ago for those that didn't splash the extra cash
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yeah I didn't no I didn't either um I couldn't even get it on day of relase Paul Ross got dragged around with me
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after our last week's show trying it just was not available in in notan boundaries I had to eventually the day
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after drive to Mansfield 11 miles away to get a physical copy to get a physical copy of I just couldn't get it anywhere
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worked out for me though cuz we went to aser as one of the places we looked and I picked up one of their you know like
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the diy pizzer things I really like them cuz they're cheap I don't know why you get to Domino's and it like the amount
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of time gone such a ripoff it is Domino's and Papa John's now I like them and if I've got nothing in and I'm like
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oh really fancy a pizza maybe but you never pay full price you always go with the offers yeah um but yeah like i' I'd
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much rather just get to I think Morrison's do them and all um but yeah as the the the Pizza Counter put all
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this stuff on it back in 10 minutes cheers but they had the one I have live and they've stopped putting chili oil on
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them they used to be like oh would you like some chili oil garlic oil so I just bought some chili oil I do it myself now and I can put more on and it burns my
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mouth off and it's amazing so sorry Domino's I was disappointed cuz I couldn't get the pizza to fit in the
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slot on the PS5 but yeah we're a weekend we're at
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different stes we're all at different stages and in our household because of there being three children being by two
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children and myself um we're all at different stages as we're all we're all at different stages in one household
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yeah yeah yeah I I've gotten as far as I don't want to spoil it maybe if we do talk about it later we'll we'll say
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spoilers ahead before we do talk about any spoilers but you're just you are I I am I would say 2/3 based on the three
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environments that are presented to you at the beginning I've just got to the I I've just launched to go to the third
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environment I don't know if that means I'm like 2/3 maybe I'm halfway no no you
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you're pretty much you're pretty much bang on what is he playing on PS5 PS5 and you've you've completed it haven't
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you you finished it yes I'm U PC masterace what did you say PC Master yeah have you
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know heard that before no really oh you know I always I never take I never take
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any of that really on board because I was thinking to myself I'm not opening my machine and starting adding other things into it to make it work to be
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fair yeah with your to be fair I would have played it on PC but my PC lately is like rendering a video all the time or
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just sat there or see what what I did with mine I I played the uh played the roulette of I've hit render can I play
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Space Marine at the same time turns out I can really hey that's pretty it's good you get a decent video editing machine
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it doubles up as a great gaming PC because you have a crapload of RAM and a decent graphics card so you finished it
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you've nearly finished it I'm not very far through it at all um and then one of
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my children is playing PVP because it's the least violent option and he's only
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little and my eldest child has completed it and has now really got into PVE so
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that's him playing with randoms with his mates and Stu well just randoms although that does create a really awkward
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situation cuz you all meet up at the Thunderhawk yeah yeah when you're playing PVE yeah you all have to be a
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different class oh that's annoying and then you just get two marines just staring at each other for minutes at a
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time while one going you change and Isaac was Isaac was going well I went
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just going change you went no because I'm trying to level up this gun yeah he said if I change I won't have this bolt
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gun or whatever it was he was using he said I won't have it if I go and get CH if I change I won't be able to level it
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up and I'm desperately tried to level up and you know what I was only half watching I was on my phone but I was
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looking was thinking God this is really awkward just watching there was at one point in time three of them all just
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staring at each other have you I no I've I've exclusively played uh through the
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campaign yeah yeah and then I did one PVE Mission I started one PVE Mission
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like late in the day and I ran out of ammunition and I was trying to kill a floaty thing with a power fist and I was
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like well this is boring and turn it off Isaac is getting annoyed cuz he thinks he seems to be the one pulling all the
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weit oh hilarious yeah and I I I said to him I
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said I said he's I said where are your mates I said if you're playing this as a
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three player you seem to be on your own and he said they're both over there fighting one thing each and as he said
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it he just had a massive hold of Tans and um homans and and and warriors
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chasing him and which he just ran back to his two colleagues went yeah well they can de that now cuz I'm sick of
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space bye so I didn't know like I'm glad I played PV cuz I didn't know in the
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campaign and maybe this is a surprise surprise to you guys but um until I saw
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somebody else in PVE doing it so not only do you get you pickups but a lot of the boxes around if you go and melee
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them they break open and there's there's more ammo and Pickups inside them okay did oh did you not know that not in no I
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haven't no it's in campaign M PVP PV and sorry M PVE so you don't see so I'm glad
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didy used to in the original Space Marine used to just give the boxes a kick to
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remember well I've just um I've just got the original Space Marine and in a bundle just got the original Space
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Marine and bolt gun for 20 quid for the brilliant yeah so that'd be something looking forward to so then you played
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the original though haven't you what Space Marine yes cuz I only 13 years ago when I was about 58 so I bought it on
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Steam I I bought it when it first came out and started playing it and like I've
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said a few times I think that's all right it's just very and there's not much difference between like here and I
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said last week I think like there's not much difference between your bolters actually um the more I play it the more
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the the subtle differences matter and I like the I think it's the bulk carbine the single shot with a zoom it reminds
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me a bit of the Magnum in Halo and I'm very much I know I can't take out hordes with that but I'm melee and I like but
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when I go for the big ones I like to be Precision bang B bang my of the main
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guns I've been enjoying is I don't like the heavy bolt rifle but I like the auto bolt rifle oh
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the that's good I think the plasma plasma gun's really good yeah Plasma Pistol I like and the heavy bolt pistol
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I like the fact that they've still got variance of bolters for the mid Space Marine 2 and after they did away with
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them in the actual 40K game yeah us to yeah used to have different variants of Bolt you could take different variance
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of bols I me you showed them by put different types of magazines on them and then they just went all that's get to
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that gone yeah it's gone I didn't know but you can still put cuz the intercessor K yeah it com yeah now it's
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just an aesthetic value so then the question is cuz I can't answer particularly well cuz I'm I'm not very
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far through it as well because I'm obviously trying to rangle my time between with two other human beings who
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are trying to play it as well what did you think of the campaign so I feel like I want to talk about it
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in two different ways go first one as a war game and then the second one as just
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a game yeah in general I think so as a Warhammer fan and a video game fan yes
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yeah yes I think so so I think as a Warhammer game hits all the right beats and stuff
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and I think it's great yeah and like I think one of the criticisms of it was like there's no humor and it's like yeah
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but you know Space Marines especially you know maybe ultramarines especially you just for slapping a thigh and yeah
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they were like right we've got we've got a job to do and let's just get it done there is a couple of jokes yeah yeah
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there is yeah like like the like when normally when you're having a three like the three-person conversation with the I
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don't want to spoil it the man dressed in black with the skull no one will get who I mean from that no
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um you could spoiler really cuz he up right at the beginning yeah up right at
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the begin spoilers um but yeah like when you're having some chats with him like there's
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a few bits where it has been but like yeah there's a little bit of banter between your two Squad mates yeah a
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little bit kind of like here like the call back to the first game yeah when
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they're like the kodex the startis doesn't support this and it like cut a reaction shot and he's like are you are
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you a cloned version of leandros and then it's like but I am looking forward to it like yes um I think like that was
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really humorous and and I think that's really good I think like I played the campaign by myself what I think this
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game would excel at would be playing it with mates I've watched videos of like YouTubers that I like where three of
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them have got together and and they're just like like the core gameplay mechanic is just like fun yeah um and
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the Universe I feel like they've nailed it feels really big um like when you
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when you walk out of a building and you have these massive Scapes like in the first mission well I guess the second
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when you're like an ultramarine and you're like oh you need to get the defense guns online and you look at it
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and you're like that's a massive SC like it it looks yeah like even the opener where it's like you you've got to get
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the the thing launched into bomb and as yeah and as you walk around the corner you're like space McGuffin one yeah yeah
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exactly but I I remember I wrote that thing at Al Towers once space one brilliant yeah they should it down now
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replaced it with Smiler but yeah like you go I remember running through the the jungle and you come out
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and you round the corner you're like oh that's in the distance there's like this weird it looks like half a roller
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coaster thing and then as you play through the level you get closer and you're like oh that's what I'm getting
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to and it's and it's huge and like so yeah the expanse is so incredible in
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that game they really nailed it and in Space Marine 1 it was very quite trenchy for quite a while wasn't it yeah it felt
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trenchy all the way through which is quite funny cuz fire warrior was really trenchy as well at the
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beginning easier to make I guess on a budget I was told a long time ago don't play to and that was to so I like I get
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it um but yeah like yeah Space Marine 2 like maybe not trenchy but it was very I
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mean this is linear what's the way it just felt really enclosed like big Open Spaces but I think it was because of the
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lack of detail back then that you could probably get on screen but it did feel like I'm in a church there was no expans
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over the hill that you were getting to but they've nailed that over the last few years with games like Destiny and
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stuff like that where you're like wow sometimes it's it's it's good are basically putting you in a you're still
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just in a big invisible worldall box but they managed to make the box look more so you liked it as a Warhammer
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player yeah and and also the fact that they it it was made I think for fans of
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Warhammer yeah first and foremost you know they didn't go to great lens to explain anything yeah um good and yeah
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yeah and and it was and that helped sort of ground it in universe and and that
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sort of stuff well I had that the other day one of my clients said to me St I really like the look of that game he says I just don't know the universe and
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I said do you like shooting things and cutting things in off and he went yet and I said we play it and then when you don't know yeah next aircut cuz he's an
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every two weeks guy for a haircut I said just come back in and I'll explain any of the bits to you that you know well he
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seems to be enjoying it's interesting like you say that you do when it's based on a franchise I've noticed this like
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I've spoke to a couple of mates and they're like oh I'm just not interested in Warhammer yeah but it's like hang on a minute before you played Sonic the
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edgehog did you think you know what I'm just I'm not interested in in blue hedgehogs like I don't I don't get the
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background just you were like just tell them you were like turn safe search off and just Google Sonic fan art no do not
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do this we don't recommend this this isn't good for your health or eyes um but yeah like you don't do like who went
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into Gears of War thinking oh I'm just not interested in that Universe you but because it's attached to an IP because
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it's already established and you're not a fan of it I yeah I like that so this
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might this is potentially one of the issues I might talk about is that as a
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but we'll get on to it later but there's no as if if that game has brought someone new in again as we've discussed
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fairly recently what's what's the pathway how do they then get into
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Warhammer and so they' be like oh oh there's a game with Titus in it and
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loads of loads of little tyranids I can get oh you can only get it in the US from that one in Target or whatever it
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is and like oh and he's he sword and Gunner in the wrong hand yeah dumb are they yeah they are
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yeah what was nice on the other day said it's what's really nice on one of the Facebook pages he said was
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said is um it said uh I'll just wait for your dismay to sorry fine I know I know
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me I know I know I'm really trying to be positive
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I'm really trying to be but oh this is so good someone said the other day it's lovely said his finding video game
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people who've come found this as a video game who've now com to forums and going I'm interested how do I
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find out more and this and then being referred to as brother by other existence
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space it's quite nice and it's a good way to you know yeah treat them well you know what I mean yes that's it and and I
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think like I watched um it's I think the YouTube channel is called node which for
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people that grew up watching YouTubers like I don't know late teenagers early 20s or whatever like there was a chat
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called Freddy W and they used to make um like video game YouTube shorts and that
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kind of stuff and they do D and D podcast now and all that kind of thing and it was like him and his mates playing it and they're all just like
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brother brother brother and that's that that kind of social element of it I think is fantastic and because you can
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clip into each other yeah um they're just like I want I'm I'm so proud of you
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brother I want to occupy the same space as you and and then just like and you know it all gets a bit weird but it's
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that that element of it I think is a real Str strength of the game yeah and the scope and and everything and there's
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a few cool cameos um there's a no spoilers not even
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close to yeah yeah yeah but people that know will know there's like a cinematic cut scene towards the end of the game
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where you think you might die um and it's just like as as fans of like fan
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ultramarine fans were probably knocking one out during that like I haven't got
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this far I'm just I'm just giving you evils at this point because I'm like if you spoil this I will leap over this
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table but Ultram fans they' just be you know full yeah I think I think but
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full the problem is like I don't so I'm saying no spoilers but I
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know because of a audio message earlier in the game that you have to get try to
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get through and there's a thing yeah um I feel I already feel like I know what
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the Cameo is going to be based on that oh very good straight face there Pat um
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so I'm like I'm I'm worried now that you've kind of yeah confirmed that that this might
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happen like even even if that like but yeah PR that like pre whatever happens
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there's just a [ __ ] epic bit which is like the most Space Marine Space Marine
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like just and yeah I'm looking forward to this there is a bit that's spoiled it for because it's a a cool bit like and
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this is why a little bit like I hate the world of shorts right now shorts are good when they're entertaining but my
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God it it spoiled um Deadpool and Wolverine for me in a couple of ways like w within hours
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of the film coming out there were there were there were big cameos in in that
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that movie um spoiled and I'm like right I'm just staying off the internet now and I I like to Deb brain at Night by
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Doom scrolling and just be like likewise yeah and it's probably not the
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healthiest thing to do I should go back to read him but um yeah and already I've had um I'll just say a vehicle encounter
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between the the loyalist and the Heretics or more vehicle based spoiled
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because it it's been shown online in short so many times and I'm like that was spoiled pre cuz they had a um the
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game leaked like a full build of the game leaked before release oh really
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even before yeah early yeah and there's a scene of like a dreadn about two or 3
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weeks if remember rightly yeah there's a scene of a dreadnut and a hell brute um that that was the was just just chatting
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to each other um yeah and and it's again it's really epic and that's like one of
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the cool bits of the game um but that was spoiled so when it actually happens
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I'm like yeah yeah so people who put these up honestly like I I hate spoilers
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like my mate thought it was funny spoilers ahead for Game of Thrones my mate thought it was funny to be like oh yeah I've read online The Daenerys thing
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is that it flies over and gets the D and the dragon gets shot out the sky and then I what like of all of season 8 did
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that was one of the most epic moments and literally like he thought it was funny to tell me before so ever since
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then I've didn't happen to me didn't happened to me but the worst one of them I I ever heard of is a good friend of
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mine who friend and Barber's chap Rick and the day after and I mean literally
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the day after the force Awakenings come out he's cutting the guy's hair and the guy just went to spoilers for a 2016
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movie but anyway he was cutting this guy's hair and um and the guy went yeah
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he said yeah and he said and he said and he wouldn't have thought would you he said I was got to be honest I was quite surprised when he said when Han Solo son
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killed him yeah the following day and my Rick like literally puty went you are
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joking AR here he said he came out yesterday and I put a I literally put a
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sign in the shop window and I went I I said no no Force awaken spoilers for
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those that haven't seen it until the 16th of January so I gave it a month oh right okay yeah and people coming in
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going have you seen the new cuz obviously when first awakens landed we had had Star Wars for a little while so it was quite a big deal yeah you coming
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in going and I was going hang on is anyone here care about Star Wars
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and if you do have you not seen it yeah and you go now we've all seen it and oh I don't care this before so I'd have a
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Shop full of people to go be sure okay go on say what you're going to say all ones we go did you see when everyone
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been oh I haven't been yet sorry mate no you can't say it thanks Jeff you're doing a good job well I I don't like
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spoilers I was the same I by the time I went to see Deadpool I already knew all the cameos were the only thing I buzzed
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off was my wife hadn't didn't know yeah because her Facebook page isn't full of the same nonsense that mine is um so
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then what did you think about it as a video game so as a video game like as as
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we said earlier before we started recording like if this wasn't Space Marine 2 War 4,000 awesomeness and it
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was uh space Soldier genetically engineered space Soldier 3 yeah this
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time chainsaw um you all right yeah um
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in in terms of like I I think it's I think that first cut scene when like you're in a death watch kill team and
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the guy dark girls was trying to get into and everybody's getting in and and he's just like ah creep over the door
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shooting their face uh and you get taken off and then your team's getting killed and you're like I need to do this like I
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think it starts off so strong but I feel like the game play
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is it like like I say it's fun but I feel like it gets quite
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repetitive um that I sort of I don't
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know just got sort of a bit complacent with it I don't want to say bored but it
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doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it ever amps there's no yeah yeah so like I
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think there was a review of it from um like the guys that do is ridiculous and
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and they were saying like you know it's a it's a it's a 2010 third person 2010's third person
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shooter but even then like I think not enough changes through the game in a way
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so I like again starts off really cool you learn the the core mechanics of the game play but then nothing really
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changes so if you compare it to gears there's always something changing on the levels
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like gears too I I like gears one and two I really really like and there's like you you got razor hail there's in
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Gears 2 you're riding in razor hail you're riding in those massive Like Elephant trucks and they're they're
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flying in and and you have to kill them and then it's like it's broken down so then you have to get out and defend it
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for a while and this that and the other whereas I feel like Space Marine is kind of like Get to This lift and and I press
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so many lift buttons that I realized pretty quickly that he always presses the same three buttons for every single
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lift well yeah cuz it' be consistent wouldn't it yeah in the Imperium guess Imperium yeah um and that kind of thing
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and it's like go and press this button and like there's a mission where you get flamer for a bit and that's really cool
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I struggled to figure that out I had the flame it's the bit it's the indoor bit isn't it and and there's swarm yeah so
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and I didn't know what I was like was I meant to be walking around flaming everything because then yes so I started
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off walking around flaming everything but then I think you can just walk around and they avoid you yeah but then
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swarms of them come at you and you meant to Flame the otherwise they knock you flame is pretty useless against anything
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else I noticed because I was like when when the when you're then I can't even
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remember them what what are the little what are the ones that always do your heading and they're constantly like up
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against you Hans they put the dou Tans have the
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gun horigans look the same but I just only out yeah these these things that run up against you I wanted to say this for a while are so annoying they put the
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W in horon like they are absolutely took
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me a while to together there we go um they are absolutely doing my heading cuz they're they're everywhere they're every
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direction and it's like you kind of go into an encounter forwards and you're like right I'll pick you off then you
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get swarmed then it's w w and then you're like right okay let's pick off the big ones and that whole in the
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tutorial it's like you can press the left stick to focus on a big enemy haven't used that once cuz there's no point focusing on that big enemy when
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that one's coming at me and that one's coming at me yeah that one's got a gun that one's got two swords and that one's
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got two swords and I'm like ah and and that that is the gameplay Loop throughout even it as far as I think
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even the one time that the enemy
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classes shift yeah in the whole game yeah it's like it's not a spoiler that
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potentially it is but they were shown in the your enemy changes you just put
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changes yeah but that's it it just as fun I prefer fighting the tyranids
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agreed way more um than than anything else because some of them they just
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don't feel as as sort of as a as a unit of
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enemies um yeah they're just not as fun yeah you you've got more balance like
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with the tyranids it's it's you've got that spoil it yeah oh God so then if we
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put it to you cuz uh I think Pat set a good standard there what do you think about it as a Warhammer game and what do
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you think about it as a video game as a Warhammer game it's in my top five easily um it's
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not one of my top two which which are dawn of War and Dawn of War I I knew
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you're going to say that I can't argue with it yeah they were just great dawn of War I sorry I'm going to reverse it
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dawn of War I first then dawn of War um and then then I'd say this um and then
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as Daft as it sounds spacehulk um the computer game really really enjoyed it
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um and I'd put that on there twice cuz had the original 1995 CD ROM that ran on
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Doss yeah um could not figure out how to play that bought it paid for it the the instructions were terrible it taught you
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how to I think it taught you how to move the Space Marine but not how to play the
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game so it was like right you can move and then end your turn I'm like well I don't want to end my turn because I want
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to keep going further up couldn't figure it out so yeah
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definitely a top game I I like it and Space Marine isn't in that top five
29:30
Space Marine 2 is because I I love the I I I love the
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world it's brought me into it it has opened up the story to me visually I did
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care I actually cared about the the Titus and his progress and yeah I it was
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a little bit weird like he's very stoic at the beginning and there is there is a little bit of character growth is there
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is character a sentence of character growth yes there's two there's two two sentences so
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there's the growth so there's the opening scene yeah then one sentence of character growth well so we can talk
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about this as well and um is because we've all done the we all done the first
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mission right we've all done the first mission and spoilers ahead no and no cuz
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everybody knows that he's been primar sized it's in the post that was in the trailers it's in the trailer and you go
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by the poster he wearing armor right receives a if you haven't played it it's
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a spoiler but we've all played it so we're going to talk about it he gets he gets injured grievously mortally wounded
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yeah and the the only way to save him is primar is primz him and then he's lying
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there and he wakes up and then the chaplain goes yeah you're primaris now
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by the way LOL yeah brilliant just like what yeah that and that was and
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obviously this has happened in what days weeks bear in mind this is that process that was sold to us a couple of years
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ago to sell bigger Space Marines I mean to um to given us a couple of years ago like oh it's a very dangerous procedure
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like people die from it and it was literally you're they cut you open from head to toe yeah they like pretty much
31:17
kill you to put in the new orans organs and then cuz they have to do that cuz
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otherwise you'll heal too quickly yeah and they can't put them in so they pretty much kill you and and then you
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lie there and it's like you'll either die or you'll live and and then in this one it's it's it's very much oh you're
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named character primar you know what I love as well is the fact that nobody in the 40K Universe who's been be gone go
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over the go past the Rubicon um whose a character has ever died of the no do me
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you know Kar has been turned into one survived it hre survived it yeah g um
31:57
gal galda survived it The Librarian from miston survived it everyone that's gone
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through it who's a name character survive you know what I'm over it bades primaris was a way to tell us true scale
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I like and I like true SC I don't really I don't care we're the way this was delivered like
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like you said I think last week like could have just like if he just picked up his Space Marine telephone that just
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went hey glad you're awake by the way you're premus now W like that would have been brilliant yeah do you like it as a
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video game as an actual video game I like it I think I think it's a good video game okay um would I buy it if it
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wasn't Space Marine probably not cuz I don't have time to play games I've still got a backlog of other stuff to play
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yeah if it wasn't called Space Marine I wouldn't probably give it the light of day but if someone said ER borrow this
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AB a go play I'd be like yeah it's all right very generic I'm I'm invested because of the law more than the game
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play I always like to compare it as you've done to gears because I
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think I think if you reskinned gears and turned the Locust into Orcs for the most
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part some of the other creatures into tyranids and turned Marcus Marcus Dom bed and Cole into
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Marines you could pretty it' pretty much be a Space Marine game and everyone's like no but they jump into cover and
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Space Marines don't they're walking tanks and I'm like well how when you're playing the game and you've got all this terrain on your table do you move your
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space mares to there and there behind cover all the time yeah so and then you could even change the mechanic of when
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you um reload instead of doing that it could be a roll of the dice or something like that that to me would be a better
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game because it's more thought out of as a game I actually watched a it was like
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an hour and a half long documentary on YouTube of someone breaking down why the Gears of War campaign is so good and
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it's because everything was thought and everything it's like it UPS the anti right you're in a prison you're learning
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okay here's your first encounter on your own in the courtyard get get on a thing and then you kind of spend the rest of
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the game and everyone um forgets like the lieutenant guy who's with you is pretty much directing you for the
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beginning of the game right up and spoilers for Gears of War um right up until he gets rammed um yeah see uh the
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baddi's called Ram yeah you have to film your
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I'm Noto I was I was going to say only 2000 kids will get this joke um but yeah
34:34
so so the captain um I forget his name you like that one so he he gets killed
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by RAM and then it's like right Marcus you're in charge even though you were in prison yesterday um you're in charge now
34:45
and Rehabilitation of Offenders Act goes quite quickly in um there aren't many other people
34:51
left to be fair and then it's like right okay now you've got to hunt him down seek revenge and it's always up the anti
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up the anti up the anti and throughout that you're like right okay here's a courtyard scene you've got a flank
35:04
here's a long tunnel oh by the way but just before the long tunnel sniper rifles whereas this one's very much like
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there's some sniper rifles there but there were sniper rifles at the last one and then I I which gun do I choose it's
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it's interesting cuz I think like in um in Gears you had all four guns all the
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time did no no you didn't sorry I'm thinking and a grenade I was thinking of Mass Effect where you have all four guns
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all the time yes and you can choose how you want to do each encounter yes gears is two gear is two guns a secondary and
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grenades yes yeah yeah yeah yeah and um I love this sniper rifle so much it was great um but you always had something to
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fall back on whereas Space Marines cuz I think they've they've stuck too close to the lore on this one which has limited
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them Space Marines would only have one primary weapon a sidearm and grenades
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yeah so you can't like is fine it's all right but when you my problem with this is where I don't like it as a game is
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when I go oh I'll take the sniper is it a sniper Bolter some of that stalk bolt rifle something stalker bolt rifle I'm
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like oh I'll take that and then whatever you take it for the next encounter it's good for the first two far away tyranids
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then it's useless and you basically H Malay Malay Malay Malay so so it's kind
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of like why would I take that I have nothing to fall back on I found myself like I I didn't play on a particular hard difficulty so I wanted to enjoy the
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gameplay in the story um I just went close range weapons like all the time yeah I I generally went sword heavy bolt
36:37
pistol cuz I could shoot a few as they were charging at me and then I'd get swarmed and just go stab stab stab stab
36:43
stab until I could see again yeah yeah and that that I think and that in itself is fun like I do like the there's a
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little bit of gamification when you're doing your Malay like if you can if you hold your last attack you do a thing so
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I'm like one two three and stomp one two three and stomp and I feel like it doesn't work quite as well on PC I don't
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think I found it quite tricky to um because I think it was like you have to right click his melee but then to to use
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the um it's like the mouse wheel which is Aim so I I think you have to like
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click both of them at say time or something and it was like was a bit weird I want I need to play around with a controll we need to turn oh this this
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is just R is it R1 for attack yeah we need to turn down the vibration on our PS five pads because Isaac is playing it
37:29
with headphones in and I can be doing something else and you'll just hear the pad when he's like and you look he's
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chewing his way through a warrior he's got the vibration he's have
37:42
carp I think like the the weapons feel really good like they're using the chain swords brilliant sounds is quite good as
37:48
well they sound when you get a power sword I really love the power swords like it's just like and the finishes are
37:55
really cool and feel like a bass like put the turn the power on and off with your controls no oh okay so you can do
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that so if you press and hold attack yeah it's it's probably always off oh right oh so cuz you can like charge it
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can't you you stand in like a position that's it yeah so you can either turn it on or you can or turn it on Mid attack
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but when you turn it on it's slower but more powerful yes but I'm like just yeah do that I I've just been I just kind of
38:21
went for the quick option oh you missed a bit but the bit you you probably missed more than us a lot more than you
38:27
realized is the vibration which is as so as you walk as a Space Marine it's fine
38:32
as you run the pad is left and right left right left right
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I love I love mouse and keyboard for aiming like I I grew up playing um that
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and you put me in a controller and with a sniper rifle and just can't hear anything oh yeah I'm with you on that
38:49
like Mouse and keyboard's better but it isn't more immersive with a game pad AG yeah totally that it it I think it's
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made to be a console game definitely um and some of the features of like the PS
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you can connect your PS5 controller to a PC and it'll work but some of the features like the haptic I don't know
39:07
you'll get the exact no response but the um I think bolt gun was a better if you
39:13
remember like did everyone play that I played it I haven't played it just bought over like Doom yeah it's Doom it is doom
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and the best thing about bolt gun is I kind of learned you can't do this on Console but on PC if you go into your
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menu and instead of hold because it's hold shift to run I think turn it to
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toggle instead of hold to run and then you just turn it on the beginning of the game and the whole game everywhere you
39:37
just Sprint and when you jump you kind of float so it becomes like a really floaty twitch shooter which is perfect
39:43
for mouse and keyboard because it's like um absolutely brilliant I don't think this is meant to be that better
39:50
for aiming and that sort of thing but yeah as a game it's definitely a console game where I'm liking it a bit more but
39:58
not massively as a game cuz they've gone like the hey we're a game but we're a service route is the PVE but should we
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do the PVE talk separately no no go it now yeah I think my general sort of feel
40:11
feelings I guess like the the characters and stuff decent I I feel like I would have preferred a game if it was like the
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death uh the company uh uh like kill team stuff from the beginning and you
40:23
might meet inquisitors and and a bit more rather than Space Marine Space Marine Space Marine and and you meet
40:30
some of Space Marines but like not for very long and you only know that they're great because R you um which one oh I do
40:39
find it funny though that very forgettable I do find it funny that they have literally just gone let's just look
40:45
through the space between catalog of Miniatures for when we're designing anybody yeah they've just gone because the main your sort of your your mission
40:54
Giver if you will the uh the ultramarine ser really Scottish ultramarine oh and
40:59
and and that's hilarious cuz it's like Titus is like hey um you know we've got
41:05
this battle barge and and everyone's like really busy but this is actually really really important I can spare
41:14
three men um I like he's literally just the model yeah and the chaplain is just
41:21
the model yes and but you think they already done you think they did differently with and you know what the really nice thing is is I've got Minag
41:27
yet to paint so I think which one the chap no the the captain Oh yeah so like
41:33
ginger beard for you matey get I was going to go Gray beard but not now now that played SP I think he's like other
41:40
than Titus he's my favorite character in the game like really well done the other thing as well that I noticed I want to
41:45
say this is so there was a guy and I actually interviewed him if anybody wants to see a good interview with a
41:51
famous Hollywood actor oh I interviewed rul Coy after gone and nobody watched it
41:59
John nus does it and everyone's like that's amazing I can't why don't I get views so I'm like and I don't know how I
42:06
looked like we would we just I think I I chatted on something I he he was asking
42:11
about um hobby storage on Twitter back when he was on Twitter and I was like oh mate check these out they're really good
42:17
um and then we got to talking then on Instagram and then a few other bits then I ended up doing an interview with him
42:22
really great guy down to work and he did the voice of um and I said calus who is it Ka kaido Kyo
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yeah yeah KO malam Kido kaido whatever he told me as well um but he did the
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voice maybe he should watch your interview maybe I should it's been over a year now anyway um and I even tried to
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resurge it with some shorts didn't work um but yeah and he was great in Fall of
42:50
the House of Usher you'll see brilliant it excellent television I originally saw
42:55
him in the uh the zombie ey zombie zie Absol brilliant and then he's he's a
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sheriff in on like a little island I watch that one by the same which is by
43:06
the same guy that's on for House of Russia and he's really good yeah I think they're mates cuz they kind of he's got
43:12
like a central a core of people that he always uses um Mike oh I'm going to have to look as you do that um but yeah so
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anyway I did an interview with him and he does the voice of malam Koo which is basically you'll only know if you you
43:25
press the taunt button but um I was like oh he's not going to be in this that might have been I don't know if there's
43:31
like thousands of years between them could have been a good thing might not had the budget might not have had the budget um but it' have been nice to see
43:38
him back and like another Cameo or something like that like however um CU I
43:44
think they're under the same I think they're both Focus interactive anyway the point I'm making is like his voice
43:50
isn't in it but there are so many other generic Space Marine voices that sound
43:55
like they could so easy be him because they're all doing like he obviously
44:01
projects a lot more and puts a lot more into it I think maybe than than some others but yeah like Space Marines sound
44:07
very Space Marine and I've listened to a few voices I'm like is that is that Rahul Coley doing that voice or maybe
44:13
they just nicked some recordings the series that he's in of
44:19
that type are all made by a guy called Mike Flanigan that's it yeah absolutely brilliant and um that one where he's the
44:26
he's the um he's on that island of people who are all quite religious is called Midnight
44:31
mkks that's it he was in The Haunting of blind Mana man was fantastic really
44:37
enjoyed that the best I think the best one is the Fall of the House of user
44:42
fall of House of phenomenal the um it's it's quite interesting with like obviously Space Marine takes itself very
44:48
seriously yeah um B gun doesn't at all no b no like Bol gun my favorite bit in
44:54
Bol gun I like fact that Bol gun has got taunt option as yes Miss that whole conversation sorry
45:01
if you um if you stand still and don't do anything he just breaks out a copy of the Codex aartis and starts oh brilliant
45:08
it's it's brilliant um I I I listen to the most recent kav SK novel like I
45:13
think I've completed all the books oh well well done so I need I need to go on to I I don't want to buy the anthologies though because they're the price of a
45:20
normal book but they're only like an hour long um when you listen to them so I'm like no so I got EMP EMP uh the
45:27
emperor spear Spears of the emperor Spear of the emperor so I'm listening to that at the minute how far into that are you not very maybe about an hour what do
45:34
you think of it I really like it you know I like about it is the fact that the Space Marine hero of the book is just massively unlikable he's a complete
45:41
Bend yes just treats everybody really badly yeah is that who she works works
45:48
for yeah yeah um so in the k k novel like I've just been playing Space Marine
45:54
2 everything's like Captain Kuran we need to inform Manus calgar Titus
46:01
gladel um he meets uh a space Marine from the reclaimers chapter first name
46:09
Toba second name Mory so Tober Mori which is just a place
46:14
in Scotland like kids TV series as well yes I think so and then so they um he just
46:20
calls him like Sergeant Mory which sounds quite normal but and then he's just like oh yes and this is borei and
46:27
he just like and and then you carry on it's brilliant that go over my head I
46:33
don't know anywhere in Scotland apart from the main ones I'd never get it but
46:38
the um it's kind of like Dragon Ball IE name like Vegeta and like all the names
46:44
are named after like instruments or vegetables and stuff yeah yeah like I I
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just [ __ ] love kyus Kane I love all the book I'll give it a go I'll give it a go I'll try one um so but yeah so I
46:59
enjoyed it I enjoyed it as a game I thought it was good um I'd be happy to say I didn't if I didn't uh but it's not
47:07
one of those where I for an online service game because the PVE is good the bit that did annoy me was like because I
47:14
got the I think it was the Gold Edition it's like you get such and such DLC and unless I've got it wrong in my head you
47:20
go into it and you like oh cool I get to wear this no you get to then pay for that with credits with like the ingame
47:25
currency got to earn credits to actually to to use the DLC that you've paid for with real money and the um is it am I
47:34
right in thinking like I I've only done one PVE Mission but am I right in thinking that to pay for the upgrades
47:41
like your cosmetic upgrades is the same currency as your weapon upgrades so you're either like I get better guns or
47:47
I look cooler a lot of grind your weapons upgrade on their own like as you
47:54
level them up so as you go through oh yeah that's true fight I think you fight if my son's to be believed you fight
48:01
your way through your guns getting better oh so you level up and your weapon levels up you can unlock perks
48:07
for yourself and I think perks for the weapons or the weapons have just got two or three levels but then the Cosmetic
48:13
upgrades I believe are the ones you purchase and when I say cosmetic I mean like um I think you unlock the certain
48:21
Styles maybe but like if you want to unlock run Fang steel or something like
48:26
that you've got to go right Ru Fang steel it's part of this kit for this Army but as you unlock say mist and red
48:34
you unlock meist and red for all of the chapters and sub chapters okay there so I can make a space Wolf at the moment
48:41
because I could afford to get um the the emblem rust gray something else and
48:48
something else however I've got to paint it myself cuz I haven't unlocked the last thing I can't just go make him a
48:54
space Wolf so I've currently got a Bri yellow even though I've got the right color a bright yellow thing a bright red
49:01
puldon rust gray for the rest of it an emblem on that shoulder but not on that shoulder because I haven't got one all
49:08
I've got is like assault but not but it's got like is it seventh Legion is
49:14
ultramarines so it's got a VI VII on it and I'm like that's not none of this is right so I've got to unlock one more
49:21
thing to make a space so you're kind of like currently doing a um hey can we we
49:26
have a space Wolf no we've got Space Wolves at home yeah that's of thing and I've got so instead I just went well
49:32
I've got most of the colors for death guard so I went death God got P you got a pan theola Space Marine yeah it's so
49:39
it's it's a bit mad but once you get your head round it it makes sense and I do like that and I'm kind of it keeps you engaged keeps you going back it
49:45
gives you a reason to keep playing cuz you unlock things but like the colors are wrong like they are wrong so like
49:52
you get basic stuff like red orange yellow and yeah I'm anal about this
49:57
weirdly I like paint and I like color but there's one of them I so I did my
50:02
own chapter years ago which was like a really gray space green I did it on a it was called impcat oh yeah yeah still use
50:10
that now yeah yeah and I wrote an article about it and and things like that so I did that where can people find that uh on F hammer.com Well they can
50:17
find it um on the internet just search impcat like impact but in cat weirdly um
50:23
every time you search for it Google will say did you mean in in packed and I'll be like no um and then it'll go did you
50:29
mean that thing from Ted 2
50:35
no who brush stroke um uh yeah he uh he then painted it and
50:43
that got a lot of views and stuff oh cool um but yeah so but yeah it was
50:48
really good and that's good and I tried to use that but the gray which I used it
50:54
or he used to paint it is in the game but it's a blue gray it's not gray and
51:00
it's very blue it's almost Space Wolves blue even though it should be neutral gray so I'm like it just looks crap and
51:07
I can't choose orange for the shoulder pad you can only pick like metallics for your shoulder pad trim not all of the
51:14
colors because it doesn't exist as one of the sub chapter what are they called
51:21
sub chapters successor chapters or none of the chapters or successor chapters
51:26
has an orange Rim shoulder pad so you just can't have that even though you can unlock that orange so it's kind of
51:32
justice for space walls yeah absolutely R yeah so that's start here so it's good
51:38
long story short I do enjoy it I think it's a good game yeah um but again there
51:44
there are bits where it it I wish it was better I wish it ramped up and I wish there was more enemy variety and I wish
51:50
the second type of enemies were actually fun to fight but they're not they just
51:56
they're bit more frustrating aren't they they are very like you've got your annoying guys running around you then you've got your bigger guys who are just
52:02
like everywhere and and that changes teleport out the way all the time yeah
52:07
whereas gears is for example as a good game is very right I've got a you you
52:13
come up with like I've got a strategy for dealing with that enemy type and that enemy type and that enemy type
52:19
whereas this one's just like [ __ ] s just get through it yeah yeah yeah I I think I'm I'm super Keen to play it online
52:27
with people that I know and have fun and I think I'd get a lot more out of it but I think it's as a Warhammer game it's
52:33
dead solid it's really fun it sticks to the law like the gameplay core gameplay mechanics are fun so I think generally
52:40
like it's only a good thing yeah for Warhammer you know I think for me because um I I wouldn't haven't watched
52:48
the trailers for gameplay I wouldn't have bought this if it hadn't been
52:54
Warhammer I just wouldn't have bought it because I know it's shooting but I'll
52:59
use the term hack and slash cuz it's a takes up a lot of the game isn't isn't
53:04
my game my game is uh blman whole envir
53:10
open world environment City environment full of full of chaos cultists and the
53:16
special character SP chaos Marines who are in charge of them which is the way chaos Marines work a lot of the time in
53:22
the in the law they send them down individually to get cultist into to and me being a thre man me being part of
53:30
like a three or a fourman uh Space Marine Eliminator team or in in cases I
53:36
like real open world games because I like my own ability to sit and figure
53:41
the tactics out an example of this is I used to play online with a friend of mine we play Ghost Recon yeah uh
53:48
breakpoint Isaac my eldest had also played this game and would sometimes see me and him playing it and would go you
53:55
are literally turning this into the most boring game in the world cuz we would sit on a hillside looking at a base that
54:02
we've got to go in and steal a laptop or do something and we would sit there and
54:07
count how long it would take for uh a soldier to do a perimeter of a thing and
54:13
count it and then my mate wouldn't come in I would go in he would have a sniper rifle and would go stay behind that
54:20
crate I would move into the thing come back out and then also we would also be
54:26
going hasn't your child has your kid moved up to a year now how's he getting on and we would have like the we call
54:31
the really violent telephone call so but but you know and that's I but I want I
54:37
want to be in charge of my parameters yeah of how I how I decide this is
54:43
getting done or how me and a friend decid getting done and this is fun because it's it's Warhammer but it's
54:49
just like you really speaking where you stand doesn't even really have a massive
54:55
effect on on on on how you the game tactically works you go well I'll stand over here and it gives me an angle for
55:02
that because you can only shoot so far and then they're all on you and you go yeah there's no you know I think I'm
55:08
more I think you know for me I'm more Ghost Recon uh The Last of Us uh
55:15
Uncharted and Jedi Survivor where you can fight things but you can go I'm
55:21
going to hide on this rock jump down with a lightsaber nail him nail that one force him off as opposed
55:27
to make a plan of action yeah make a plan of action and you know sometimes one through repetition of going well
55:33
that didn't work let's try that you know but this is just You' be like I'm going
55:39
to swing more yeah you know and I was trying to do this thing of like right aim shots aim shots aim shots oh and now
55:45
eventually that doesn't work that's it and it's cool because that's exactly how IDs are meant to play yeah yes but it's
55:52
um yeah if it I'm I'm having loads of fun cuz of the world when I go along and
55:57
go oh look B out Leman Russ oh look a k you know it's nice but yeah it's I I
56:03
yeah if it if it if it it's not even the fact they go off this was called space
56:08
Soldier you know space Soldier Revenge I wouldn't be interested in it because it's not war hammer I just wouldn't I'm
56:15
literally Clinging On to playing it because the fact I love the university in other than that it wouldn't be my
56:21
game but I it is making me smile cuz it is ly seeing my little 32 mm guys bigger
56:27
yeah running around having conversations and killing things yeah well so but I can know it's past two million
56:34
players now and I'm really pleased really nice and you know what and big and who's what's the name of the company
56:40
of made it the focus of focus of the publisher it's uh saber yeah saber sa
56:46
and you know what hands hands uh hands down are they of what's gone on in the
56:51
last month Sabre when it comes to Warhammer have produced probably the the best road map I've
56:59
seen wrong you know what I especially liked about the sa road map was at the first half of it wasn't reminded me what
57:06
I did in Space Marine 1 yes yeah 10 10 years ago Space Marine One happened yeah
57:11
you know I I haven't seen the road maps their Road map's really good and it does if they can put their money where their
57:17
mouth is if they can sustain the road map to be what they claiming it's going to be and that sounds like I'm being
57:24
really negative by saying claiming but if match oh wow what they're saying I'll be really pleased I think I haven't seen
57:31
it I'm looking at it now so is it just like more cosmetic well I'm I'm flipping
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through Games Radar at the moment so apparently jump to season 1 Season 2 Season 3 and season four so they've
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obviously got I'm going to assume yeah like a fouryear plan every what is it or is it every quarter they might do
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another season um it might be quar I'm I'm not sure but like I've got a September is is the ultramarine yeah so
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skins is oh hang on so free updates in in September this is part of season one
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I hope there's more than this in season one cuz I paid for a season pass which I hope gets me more than this because this
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is free update oh hang on so free updates and season pass updates so September is season one um which is
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ultra wide support private PV lobbies battle barge sparring area and an
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ultramarines cosmetic pack which is a load of success access of chapters and a load of extra bits and colors um season
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2 is up to the end of 2024 which will give us uh for free new
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PVE missions cool uh lethal difficulty and the Neo volite pistol oh I like
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pistol cool design that's it the season and that's angels as well isn't it yeah
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will be Dark Angels Champions pack cosmetic pack and weapon skin pack and then Seasons uh three and four which are
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across 2025 season 3 new PVE Mission singular there's no s yeah uh
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new PVP game modes new PvP Arenas new
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enemy um but that's an interesting way of saying Enemy enemy can mean an entire race or just one let's be fair we know
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it means one um oh and and now an ads uh
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a full screen ads popped up and I can't see uh let me just go back and forth
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yeah there were a couple of other interesting bits um It's s be super interesting but yeah it it's it's got a
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good come on maybe that's why there's no more go 40K releases cuz they're all coming out in Space Marine yeah had a
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Warhammer they announced something for September and then something else look reading into the rest of the end of the year have you seen um we talked about
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this last week joy toy like as soon as I went home last week I was like BL there's a Titus and his cohorts oh
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fantastic the only annoy thing is all all of the the the addon bits that you can change the hands it's exactly same
1:00:04
for each bit but they um but yeah like joy toy have done so much to catch up
1:00:09
with like every Space Marine and model that's out there we the we can definitely I don't know if they've done
1:00:14
enough chaos they've done a few um were their night Lords anyway we've got to be
1:00:19
able to play like a scaled up kill Team game would really fun
1:00:26
expensive so about 80 quid a mini now AR the something stupid really so yeah so
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we've got touch with joy five people might watch this can we have free toys please I tried years ago they so hard to
1:00:39
communicate with um so yeah so we've got a new enemy PVP Prestige ranks uh battle
1:00:45
barge expansion because it's you don't already have to run far enough to change your outfit or class between thing is uh
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your chapter pass uh your season pass stuff in season 3 will we one chapter
1:00:57
will receive Champion pack cosmetic pack skin pack another chapter will receive
1:01:04
Champion pack so they're not saying oh so they're doing a couple of chapters yep and then season four hord mode
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another new enemy oh hard mode would be fun yeah hard mode I think would be pretty good cuz that's just like wave
1:01:17
after wave isn't it if if the Arenas are set up right I think and and the levels are done hord mode new Enemy new weapon
1:01:25
uh one chapter to be dis cled will'll get a champion pack cosmetic pack and skin pack and again another chap uh
1:01:31
chapter will get a champion pack um I don't think that's bad a video game to be that much is on the way so far I
1:01:38
think I'm quite impressed with that exciting stuff to come uh I hope there's I hope that new enemy means new enemy as
1:01:46
a race as a race but I don't think it does if they did because it would I guess it might be quite a big ask to um
1:01:56
make loads of different Orcs if they're only gonna be available in like H mode or something like that and because they'
1:02:02
have to make a bunch of different models voice them yeah which would be hilarious so I think they totally should do it but
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that might be quite a big ask it might be another tyranid model a new enemy
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yeah and that's what I'm expecting it'll be it'll be a bigger oh there's a bit later in fact yeah can
1:02:22
we just quickly talk about it's it's story it's not a spoiler so
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at the end of the second third of the game there is a enemy type that is
1:02:35
described to you and oh you've got to take it out to to take out all of the all of the and you're like oh cool I get
1:02:41
to go and take this out no you don't no you don't you don't that's a PVE Mission yeah yeah yeah so it's like this is
1:02:49
going to be so good and then it's like oh yeah it's just done now but the but the battle that happens whilst that's happening in the PVE mission
1:02:56
um is pretty good cuz it's like oh I've just taken this out and so I say it doesn't ramp up but there are small bits
1:03:04
yeah um but yeah that bit where it's like take this out oh I'm just taking that out and then three of them come at you and you're like oh my God and yeah
1:03:12
it's crazy that so that that's one good bit that I felt the pressure in but and I do like that the PVE Mode's connected
1:03:18
to the yeah single player mode which is nice so it's good it's good I do like it I'm really excited about it yeah right
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then talking about being excited by the time this goes out uh we
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will have uh the pre-orders for the new kill team will be up oh are the pre-orders up
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tomorrow uh they come up what is this coming Saturday but by the time this goes out to uh our lovely people out
1:03:44
there it will be um they'll be up yeah so new kill team and from a number of different sources one of them being uh
1:03:52
Mr oec tactics himself and the other one being the lovely gentleman I think whose
1:03:57
name is Andy who's at glass half dead uh I've con I've pretty much looked at the
1:04:02
same rumor that it's going to be 145 o which is a big which is a big oo
1:04:09
you are right but then at the same point in time um glass half dead also broke
1:04:14
down and he and he he low balled as well um the prices of the things in it at
1:04:22
their individual costs and it seems like the saving on it is generally pretty damn good it's a lot of terrain
1:04:28
isn't there it's a lot of terrain which is uh it's good for a a starter box load terrain yeah loads of terrain um then
1:04:35
you've got your Battlefield scenery is which has now become uh Battlefield uh add-on scenei which has
1:04:42
now become part of the game of being able to buy ladders and being able to buy these bits and Bobs and things like
1:04:48
that what mid game so you know you you pick them at the start of the game they're like equipment that you decide
1:04:53
you're going to use in the game so you can pick certain things and attach it to your scenery or something yeah you will
1:04:59
land in the game go well I can put a lad or instead of trying to do such and such a movement I can put a ladder in I can
1:05:05
throw a smoke grenade I can plant a mine how are these visually represented by being actual no no they are actual oh
1:05:12
okay right down to smoke so you have barricades and have physical smoke grenades and so they're all there like
1:05:18
barricades heavy barricades and they they're there at the beginning of the Skirmish yeah you'll plant you'll put
1:05:23
them in right okay um and just imagine like yeah I'm going to buy a ladder and then two of your Space Marines are
1:05:29
reserved because they're holding like to you to me across the battlefield with this ladder yeah it's just which which
1:05:36
which to when we used to do uh fibra fighting in a builtup area or CQB Close
1:05:43
Quarter battle I know that from Metal Gear side three you actually do run up with a ladder you do have a ladder so
1:05:49
you know um so it sounds ridiculous but is actually there but um so the pric is
1:05:55
a bit of an intake of breath as you did and I do agree with you but also as well I think it breaks down to being quite a
1:06:01
lot of it's it's really quite quite quite a comprehensive bot I think I'm
1:06:08
personally really looking forward to it I think um the fact that they've thrown everything in it is good I think it's a
1:06:14
little bit naughty that which is something I'll go into in a minute but I'll mention sort of now is that they're
1:06:20
going to start releasing data sleep cards for them the same way as they do for 40K so instead of have I'm to open
1:06:26
your book have your book open m at and keep changing it to see what which different type of troop does what you
1:06:32
can have cards and you can lay them out across your board which is what they have for 40K is that good well yeah
1:06:38
because instead of going all right this guy's going to shoot and then watch this gu and then watch this gu back so youve
1:06:44
got you back and forth book you can have them along your table Edge oh and you only need eight you need yeah or yeah
1:06:51
depends on what Specialties you take you're going to take somewhere between six and 10 depending on what you're
1:06:57
playing then so they're going to release them uh in which I'll talk about in a
1:07:02
minute but I think if I am being a bit greedy I'd maybe lik them to have been for both the armies be in the Box as
1:07:09
well the armies you both sorry both the kill teams do apologize both the kill
1:07:14
teams that are in the start in this new starter box don't have them cards on in there oh no you sure yeah yeah they're
1:07:20
not in there which is a bit of a shame yeah um but you you get but you get the book which has the so so they are
1:07:28
covered yes you still get the rules but you don't get the convenience of the and also the fact that they are going to bring out a uh kill Team app which will
1:07:36
give everybody access to the equivalent of the cards but on the app do you need to pay for that uh I don't know no one
1:07:43
nothing's been announced yet but it's Games Workshop probably I'm going to say yes quite possibly but Poss hopefully
1:07:49
for me where if I take my own greed into consideration and my own uh my own
1:07:54
well-being hopefully it's going to be covered in my um Warhammer plus Subs I would have thought def yeah like I would
1:08:00
imagine if you do got to pay for it you open it and it goes oh to access this you need paper War the great thing about
1:08:06
this version of kill team is I think like say with the um the kill
1:08:12
teams that in a year's time won't be supported competitively anymore and all that sort of stuff yeah like they've
1:08:19
given a warning to people which is good rather than the 40K stuff where it's
1:08:24
sort of like blood angels coming out you can't use these models anymore long um so they they've given people like a fair
1:08:30
warning and they only they're not even getting rid of them getting rid of them they really just getting rid them out out of the tournament it's just too much
1:08:36
I think it's a real shame that uh C and commando's going yeah because I think
1:08:42
they're like they started off this kind of new era of kill team and I feel like they're really really iconic wait so
1:08:48
they're taking kill C and or Commandos out of competitive kill team in a year's
1:08:53
time in a year's time in right so this but they'll still get balance updates and bits and bobs for a
1:08:59
while but they will be retired okay so I need to ask the dumb question so this is kill team three yeah yeah so there's
1:09:05
third gen 3.0 Third Edition and this version that comes out
1:09:12
yeah will come out supporting the or Commandos but they'll be removed from
1:09:18
competitive play in about a year time in a year's time yeah why uh I would say
1:09:23
one of the main reasons for it is is the fact that uh if we bake it down to the real core answer I think it's because
1:09:29
the kill team shelf and Shel in the shops can only support so much because the thing
1:09:36
is as we talked about this previous episode a lot of kill teams kill teams coming out constantly and I think they
1:09:44
just I think a lot of it is is they just can't maintain the shop space for them anymore no I don't know what what happens to the Commandos um I know I'm
1:09:51
repeat myself on previous episodes I don't know what happens to the Commandos but the isn't too much of a worry cuz
1:09:57
they're just going to get filtered into their own Army in the Imperial Guard bit of the shop yeah that's in the road map
1:10:03
isn't it yeah but I don't know what will happen to the Commandos and will it be a case of if you didn't buy them when they were out they're gone or will the
1:10:10
Commandos get boxed into being in just an orc box and they'll move over into the orc section because I think the main
1:10:16
problem is is I think the competitive they're saying compe it's I think it's going to be if you've got them good on
1:10:22
you if you haven't get them now in a year's time they won't be available for competitive play because you won't be
1:10:28
able to go and buy them it might not just be shelf space as well like if they are trying to make cuz kill team's a a
1:10:34
well received game and really liked and probably the best Gateway it's just the one I'm going to use to get into gaming
1:10:41
um because I'm really excited about it but also like if they want to keep it balanced like adding more and more just
1:10:47
bloat to it with more factions like there's a team there of people with brains who have to keep all this yeah
1:10:53
all this going yeah um might like that if you've got all these 30 odd 40 odd
1:10:58
factions it'll be way too much so you want you want a balanced yeah one of the other little things I think is going to
1:11:04
have a bearon on it to some degree as well is that from what they've been saying um they're going to now start re
1:11:12
uh reboxing all the existing kill teams and what will happen is that your
1:11:18
kill Team box will have your own variant
1:11:24
of the tokens that you play with will be in the box with your figures oh it's a little card extra yeah we'll have all
1:11:29
your tokens so I I think these are which I can't confirm because I haven't seen I
1:11:35
haven't seen the actual individual um ones for kill team factions but I get the
1:11:41
impression there'll be a standard one um which you'll be able to buy and then the
1:11:47
ones in the boxes will be War unique will have logos that will reflect your own personal unit that's in there wait
1:11:54
hang on so go with me again so where have you got this from is this just room from though from from war hammer okay so so there's
1:12:01
going to be a box on cuz be in mind we're just talking about shelf space so there's going to be a box of I don't
1:12:07
know what's the faction that's staying uh pick space Space Marine um Inc casers
1:12:13
or infiltrators just like night Lords the night Lord okay yeah so you've got you you're
1:12:18
going to have a night Lords but they're not out yet though as a box are they they will be in a couple of weeks yeah so you'll have a night Lords box but
1:12:25
then a night Lord's box plus no what are you saying night Lord's box will come
1:12:30
from now on well the night Lord not even night Lord's box will come from now cu the night Lords are coming into a box as
1:12:36
being one of the first ones that will have their tokens inside the box with them right
1:12:43
with the figures but they will be I'm assuming because they will sell everything separately for Kil M to and
1:12:49
beir and Well Done Games Workshop they're selling everything separately on day one
1:12:56
which is really good so those that don't want to buy the kill team the new kill Team box the new rules will be available
1:13:01
the adson book will be available if you want to just see what's going on and use the missions and so on so it' all be
1:13:07
individual so I'm assuming that means when you buy the rule book yeah if you
1:13:13
don't want to buy the the Box yeah it'll come with generic tokens right okay okay
1:13:19
yeah but then in the box when we say tokens we mean like objective markers wound yeah wound markers all of that sort of thing yeah but but then the ones
1:13:25
that come in your box for your kill team that you buy will be more reflective in the imagery that matches your that's
1:13:31
cool yeah yeah but what I'm thinking about is I think that that's going to mean the box is going to get bigger
1:13:37
which I think is one of the other reasons why and the price will also get bigger and the price which we'll speak about a way of justifying it yeah and is
1:13:45
the um because I think they're going to take up more space so I think that's also one of the reasons why they're going to try
1:13:51
and start uh deleting certain yeah On's out of it so what pricewise what are
1:13:57
they now for a team' gone up if you buy um the problem
1:14:03
being is to looking at the prices it's difficult to do now because uh Games
1:14:08
Workshop on their website have taken all of the kill team oh okay right but um if
1:14:14
you look at a standard box of um chaos space me yeah they've just gone up to 42
1:14:21
50 for a standard box of Space Marines and obviously Space Marines the night Lords is the chaos Space Marines with an
1:14:28
upgrade with an upgrade sprew and then the tokens in them and it looks like they're going to probably retail rounds
1:14:33
about 4750 see 42 if they go above 50 that's where it's a problem I think and
1:14:38
again it's the psychological especially cuz it's 50 Quid for 10 minutes isn't it and that's yeah but it's like it's get
1:14:44
there just barbaric yeah but it's 50 Quid for 10 minutes like that's and especially with a kill team I think you
1:14:50
people would put or at least I plan to I would put more effort into a 10-man kill team than a 30-man
1:14:59
army well I think to some degree what Games Workshop is thinking about here is that um there will be people who will go
1:15:08
out and buy a shedload of night Lord kill team boxers because they want night Lord Chaos Marine 40K Army it's going to
1:15:17
be expensive for them to do it that way but I think that people will do that but I think what Games Workshop is working
1:15:23
on is the idea that a lot of people now who are enjoying kill team don't turn
1:15:29
their kill team into an army they just buy lots of different kill teams yeah yeah so and I think and I think they're
1:15:36
thinking we may only sell to somebody we may only sell this night Lord's box
1:15:43
once right there'll be plenty of people who buy lots of times because they're going to do a chaos they're going to do
1:15:49
night Lords as an army yeah but there's lots of people who will only buy that box once but why would they buy it lots
1:15:54
of times as oh cuz cuz they want to play night Lords as as their chaos 40K Army can I just say as well that upgrade sprw
1:16:00
cuz it is literally the chaos Space Marines and an upgrade yeah it's amazing that upgrade why couldn't we have that for
1:16:07
blood angels yeah I'm not going to going
1:16:12
it's specifically for kill team so they do more with it because they do more with it because lots of because kill
1:16:18
team has lots of people lots of Miniatures that follow the same class
1:16:23
yeah like you know your guy with a big stick your guy with a big stick comes in a number of variants ofers and a medic
1:16:29
and so on so so them spews are often there to not just give them a flavor of
1:16:35
how they look but they are there to give certain Miniatures an absolute an an
1:16:41
actual classification actual classification of what they do sniper medic comms man that
1:16:47
sort of thing but even that it doesn't matter that that that as you've said with the bolters like right now the
1:16:52
bolters are just for visual flare rather than actually having a different meaning
1:16:57
great give us all that anyway hello hello B Bella agrees yeah um yeah give us all that
1:17:04
flare because then she's r on space for they could have had the option of going
1:17:09
oh there could be a blood Angel's kill team in the future maybe and they've already got the kit but it just I just I
1:17:14
want variety and I don't want to be negative I don't I still love Warhammer I still love blood angels I just wanted
1:17:21
so much more from that and it and it's this sort of thing that pushes me down the 3D printer Avenue I was just going
1:17:28
to make the uh tried and tested joke that never fails 3D printer goes B yeah
1:17:34
and and and I don't want to I want to be official I want the official stuff I want and I love great tide I love arches
1:17:41
Forge I think they're fantastic creators uh there are others coming out there there's I think it's pop goes the monkey
1:17:47
or something oh Pop go the Mony I get my um I get my uh black Templar crosses
1:17:54
from yeah yeah cuz you know one I I don't mind to decal on a rank and file but you mean crosses that are compatible
1:18:00
with black Templars yeah oh sorry Templar crosses cuz Games Workshop can't own that Templar crosses I get my
1:18:06
Templar crosses from there um the kns of the Templar I don't mind a dek on a ranking
1:18:13
file but on the captains and things I want them to have a physical yeah yeah and um which also is really cool as well
1:18:20
the the cross for the shoulder um is all Al exactly the right got the exactly the
1:18:26
right curve on it that it also goes around the Glee the grieve of a um of a
1:18:31
template of a 10's leg oh really no CU some have some have kneat pads obviously
1:18:37
not but the ones that don't know the ones that just have the full plate it wraps around really well which is great
1:18:42
but um but you it's that sort of thing it's like yeah I want I want this sort of thing the night Lord's perfect I
1:18:48
would but if they release that as an upgrade spr i' I'd buy 10 of them CU they would work on not just the models I
1:18:53
can kit bash car from that and all sorts but the blood angels one I'm like great 10 pads like you could have given me no
1:19:01
pads and instead just give me in tiny insignias that I glue on and use that space for chest plates I've got I might
1:19:09
speak to uh Taro if you're watching um because I need to drop some stuff off it is this week um I've got like you know
1:19:16
when the captain comes out with the chest plate I'm going to see if that's a separate piece for just the chest I'm
1:19:23
going to be like can you help me mold this this so I can make 10 of them so I can put them on my intercessors and they
1:19:28
would make my blood angels a lot more like blood angels and stand out so but again I want I'm so desperate for the
1:19:37
official designed Games Workshop true to model scale and everything because a lot
1:19:43
of the third party designers don't quite get it right and can't for other reasons
1:19:49
I I I want more blood angely blood angels yeah and I can't get them but the thing I think that um I like the idea
1:19:55
that they're doing the cards we were talking about them not disappointed they haven't come in the Box for the two new
1:20:01
factions but I like the idea they're doing the cards because I've quite since haven't had an army that needs the
1:20:08
cards because theyve no codex death card and for quite a while uh Jean Steeler CS
1:20:13
yeah so I quite got quite used to the cards and I do like the cards um uh it starts to rack up a bit of a
1:20:21
price I know they're going to say well they'll be in the app and that the rules are going to be free which is also
1:20:26
really nice of them but then you go you know if you then pay £ 4750 for a box of chaos Marines be it night Lords and then
1:20:34
you then go again you get your own unique counter your own unique counters but then you go I want the I want the
1:20:40
DAT to SES for them on on a card for next thing you know you bluming squad for chaos Marin has become
1:20:46
extraordinarily expensive so what that pack of cards cuz that pile I saw there was more than cuz it's it's 10 to 12
1:20:52
you'll get one for each model can make and then you take they're not going to
1:20:57
sell them for under a FIV no they how many how big are these packs are there 60 cards are they're also are they're
1:21:04
also no they'll only be they'll only be like that because they'll only have the they'll only have the the 10 of them in
1:21:09
there it will come the cards though do come with like a lot of the rules that you then don't have to go back into the
1:21:15
book for like they have unique PLO which like little tricks you can do but they're unique to each army or each kill
1:21:23
team so um all them little things will be in there as well so they'll probably rack up to possibly about 15 cards so so
1:21:31
where do you and is that the rules for them you don't then need a you a book you won't need a book you'll have the
1:21:37
say like with the RBS you can build the guy with the dog or like the big voice
1:21:43
thing or whatever like there's variations like you said previously like you could buy three boxes to make do to
1:21:51
do arbites to get all their variations yeah you really need three boxes so they might they could theoretically have like
1:21:57
20 odd cards one for each variation or something but to be fair when I say 30
1:22:03
when I say three boxers I am also for me that was me talking about um Fielding
1:22:09
them in 40K yeah they come Shield team with teams where they've all got a shield over come so I was talking I
1:22:15
thought in both camps there really but yeah yeah but um but yeah so generally so you so what you would need for kill
1:22:21
team is you need the book or one of you needs the rule book yeah or you need to understand the rules then you need your
1:22:28
kill team yes which comes with tokens cool but don't need them but nice that they're there then you need a card pack
1:22:35
well you don't need you don't you don't need a card pack so if you haven't got that card pack where do you get their
1:22:40
rules do they come in the Box they'll be on they'll be online or they're online for free for for free oh okay fine so
1:22:46
yeah you know so you know it it the thing with the new kill team I suppose to some degree is it's going to be as
1:22:53
cheap or as expensive as you want to make it yeah to some degree which which is which is good but I I do think
1:22:59
getting near the 50 Quid mark for a box of Blum and 10 minutes is starting to and I'm somebody who generally defends
1:23:06
priceing to some degree I always do the old uh to C I know I know another person
1:23:11
has used it recently but I won't name him the uh no the the cinema analogy you
1:23:16
know um you know how much is a Cinema ticket cost and how much Val you get out of it compared to yeah but 4750
1:23:23
is you see I am starting to slowly think about um having a unique kill team cuz
1:23:30
all of my kill teams currently I own I own them because they do a 40K job I've
1:23:35
got death guards I can kill team um and I've obviously is there a death guard kill team well only they has been W in a
1:23:41
compendium they haven't got their own true one yet right okay they did CU for
1:23:47
they did a compendium book which for all the people who hadn't had a kill team let me make this simpler if I if we're
1:23:53
all going to play kill team yes can I do a death guard Army not yet no not
1:24:01
yet yeah not yet it will be I'd love a death card kill team that cool that's
1:24:06
literally what I want to do yeah can I proxy it can I can I be like proxies as
1:24:11
chaos Space Marine yeah like you could you could probably use as nights could you probably yeah if you take the night
1:24:17
Lord rules and then kind of make people look you know like they do a certain job
1:24:23
then yeah all right yeah but um all right so yeah but all of mine have been
1:24:28
um I've got a crew kill team because I'm collecting Crews I've got space ring one because I collect Space Marines and you
1:24:34
know they're all like this but um yeah I do really fancy having a sister's kill
1:24:40
team but I don't want to collect sisters is there a sister kill team yeah right yeah but they're all sort of like
1:24:46
pre they're the baby sisters yeah they're the ones before it's like they these are like the missions they go on
1:24:52
before they get anointed for oh they're not in the full they're not in the full armor no no hopefully they will do one
1:24:58
of them where they're in full armor yeah cuz those sisters cuz they're some of
1:25:04
the older models along with the c and the Commandos and stuff I think they were the second box yeah or the first
1:25:11
box after they were um the Orcs And and CH Block in a year time asers yeah
1:25:19
yeah so if they go hopefully they'll get replaced with um sisters in full armor you know the the the full ones but I'd
1:25:26
like to do I'd like to have sisters um but yeah so I'm really looking forward to kill team uh it's quite interesting
1:25:32
and then once we've got it we've got a clean slate it is and got all that luggage of 10,000 FAQs and all the rest
1:25:38
of it which I know we'll follow quite quickly I would have thought but we get in on it in a clean slate and we'll get
1:25:44
playing yeah yeah yeah cool so yeah one things kill team related when when we
1:25:50
were at Nova Eric Swinson uh rocked up and we were like don't suppose you got any models we
1:25:56
could put cuz we had the artist Opus display cases didn't turn up with them scouty yeah oh my God the Death Watch
1:26:02
ones oh the and and he was like yeah I've got a couple we've been playing some kilty but I'm not going to do that
1:26:07
much this afternoon do you want to have a quick look and I was I just look at one like anybody who's watching Go Eric
1:26:13
Swinson what what I forget is is I'll stick in IM mid oh cheers yeah see if I can find them kill him and
1:26:21
he was like oh yeah I think like Byron sent them to me he was like oh my God these are he's just he's the nicest guy
1:26:26
as well and with absolutely like no arrogance or like oh yeah I'm so good
1:26:33
he he he just he was so politely saying yeah I just you know they they were just
1:26:39
a quick job and I'm like quick jum quick quick and then he sat down for a bit and sat painting one and I just saw him like
1:26:44
get his wet pallet out so out of like he's miles away from home got his W just got his wet palette out mixed up some
1:26:50
colors H in fact I think there was some still wet on there and he was just like started painting this this I mean Christ
1:26:57
non metallic metal something but then Death Watch shoulder pads non metallic metal silver with all the writing
1:27:03
Sensational and I was holding it in my hand I was like draw they are absolutely
1:27:09
lovely such another level of experience like you you see these things online and you're like
1:27:15
wow that's incredible holding it in your hand is is such an amazing experience
1:27:22
it's quite hard to describe but I I have held the heav metal Empress Champion
1:27:29
yeah and and that's just like like you think like say like
1:27:35
painting black the heavy metal way they don't necessarily shade the black armor that much it's all in the like you your
1:27:41
Edge highlight steps and phases and all that sort of stuff and just seeing how sort of flawless it is it's crazy yeah
1:27:47
and they they look better in your hand than they do all capitals Eric with a kcore swins
1:27:55
absolutely incredible and um and his uh he he produced well he's actually got one of the um which we gave away a while
1:28:01
ago in competition there's the Dave Taylor Miniatures the art of there's an art of Eric twinson book which is
1:28:08
phenomenal go and look at it um but um yet his um his his death watch his death watch
1:28:16
Scouts are just phenomenal they really they really are yeah they're they're
1:28:22
amazing so they're they a whole but yeah but yeah W you holded but yeah like I think you're
1:28:28
right like seeing things in person like this is why more people should get their ass if you want to improve painting you want to spend time uh like enjoying
1:28:36
paint go and look at a painted model real like even even if you can just get to Warhammer world and no offense to
1:28:43
people in stores there there are many out there I've seen that are incredible a lot of store staff are really good
1:28:49
painters but you've got to see something of heavy metal or golden demon quality
1:28:54
to really just oh my god wow and something modern as well and when you see them in person or especially when
1:29:02
like cuz I got to sit there and watch um Eric uh paint and I was like oh my God this is incredible um it looks
1:29:10
achievable he makes it look like hey I could do that because he's not doing anything different to me because there's
1:29:16
paint there I could get paint from there and put paint on here all he's doing is movements I can do movements with my
1:29:23
finger holding a yeah Bless yeah it like when when um
1:29:29
when Taro uh was in and he brought in all of his heavy metal entries throughout the years and he and he had
1:29:36
um won a was it a the Gretchen um riding
1:29:41
like that single wheel oh yeah yeah I was looking at that when I was vehicle and stuff and I was looking at it being
1:29:48
like cool yeah this is great and immediately like I real I was like my toxic trait is that I think that I could
1:29:56
do this yeah and it's like you look at it and and you're sort of like yeah well I can see where he's glazed down here
1:30:01
and it goes from this to this and and so on and so forth but there's so much going on in that that I just don't
1:30:07
understand that's it but you look at it and go like like with Eric you like oh well he's taking paint off a wet palette
1:30:13
I can put paint on a wet palette easy and you dip it in and and you do little like I I do that when I paint if I just
1:30:20
put like a little bit more time in if I wanted to do that I bet I could no but it's it's it's the thousand different
1:30:26
decisions he's made that you don't even know exist between like how much paint consistency dryness wetness and and
1:30:33
something that I'm becoming more increasingly aware of I think in in watching um if I watch a a a painting
1:30:41
video on YouTube quite like I do really enjoy watching like the long form stuff
1:30:46
like the Richard Gray stuff and and like cut paint and all that sort of thing and just how much specific color choices can
1:30:53
really effect um and and having the uh like the
1:30:58
eye to go well I'm not going to use that brand I'm going to use this one instead yeah well the the other night I was at
1:31:04
James taro's house for a barbecue and um I uh went happy birthday James sorry I
1:31:09
missed it um I went outside to get uh to to get some uh sausages heated up for me
1:31:15
by the lovely Lance Allen and um when I was out there I got me I got me me food
1:31:21
go there's me and I came back in and um Haley um and this time we brought my
1:31:27
little boy oh love we brought my little boy and they weren't anywhere to be seen and I was like and then I walked down
1:31:33
and I went into um James's studio room and was just like the face on my
1:31:40
youngest child who's increasingly BEC a 40K oh is this is this his Workshop or
1:31:47
not not the his actual room yeah his display room yeah which yeah you turn around it's like like his entries and
1:31:54
like he's done a ship in a bottle yes like I was just yeah like I was I was near for that then was I was like
1:32:01
looking at he was saying like yeah that was a ship of the bottle like how's he did that and I got a did did you see
1:32:06
what he's doing for demon this year yes yes yeah we W
1:32:11
say see I I don't know I I'm I'm eager to to learn we'll have a chat with you
1:32:17
but you'll everyone will say it in a couple of weeks is um heresy um his heresy iron Warriors Army is absolutely
1:32:22
stunning as well going see in a couple of weeks um for those of you that are going um me and Ross will be on the arop
1:32:30
stand for Spiel in Essen soel Spiel yeah I think anyway yeah go with that um it's
1:32:37
not in Netherlands though Spiel know no it's ni in Germany um but um
1:32:43
come and find us say hello and all being well I should have on me a load of painting fa stickers and also stickers
1:32:50
made by and I'll have them with me for the brilliant to come back Customs oh lovely I've the man who does awesome
1:32:57
decals and um so come and see me and I've got stickers for him as well he does some really cool um have you seen
1:33:03
his um his cadan cadan monkey monkey Guardsman with machine guns and things
1:33:09
yeah they're really cool I want to see that I've seen who was it did the someone did a sticker sheet recently that I love and it's right it might be
1:33:14
that so but no also I've got a load of the minis of me to give out cuz I've still got hundreds of them um so I want
1:33:20
to let uh let people know what's he called again uh Lord narcist
1:33:25
yeah he's the leader of the chapter but I keep giving them out and then watching as people like walk away going like and
1:33:31
then put them at somebody else's table so it's really good so I'm I'm forcing them on people when we did NOA I was
1:33:38
hiding them like a reverse stealing on people's booths so um the gobble the guy
1:33:44
who do goblins Hut who sells the dirty down I managed to get seven I got a message from him on the way as I was uh
1:33:50
just getting on the flight on the way home and is like yeah I found those like and he sent me a picture or two I was like there's five more mate you need I
1:33:57
like the idea that somebody going to them stands and going can I take one of these I don't even know what it is yeah take it yes so we'll be there um pass
1:34:05
unfortunately will be probably filming somebody's nuls yes I think I am up
1:34:10
close I beg you pardon you're going to be up close up close shots of someone's nuls wow to think that's a little bit
1:34:17
much right have you asked permission no everyone's very ACC I just sort of
1:34:23
rock up with the camera and they're like yeah I'm down for this show show us show us you
1:34:28
CHS brilliant yes so uh if you're a pre-ordering kill team
1:34:34
good luck hope you got one yep if not there'll be more if you're still playing Space Marine 2 I hope you're still
1:34:39
enjoying yourself I might see you in there when I get around to playing P PVE anything else oh I promised I'd give
1:34:47
them a shout out they do what we do but in a much longer variant there's a lovely Channel um called the key show
1:34:54
two guys both called Kier yeah and they do um you know where we do 30 minute challenges or having the
1:35:00
past and stuff like that yeah yeah they do 12 hour oh amazing oh my word and
1:35:05
they and they've got a really cool and it's like an ongoing competitions where they are crew points over but yeah so I
1:35:12
said I'd give them a shout out cuz they they're on the up they're doing well but they are a good little channel so go and
1:35:17
give them go watch the KE I've just remembered talk and I did I just want to say thank you to and I'm sorry I forgot
1:35:23
your name there we go the guy who gave me this wonderful shirt acrylic Alchemist who a lovely little company I
1:35:29
saw him day one I went out for a quick smoke break cuz you know bad things uh but yeah don't don't yeah Vapin yeah
1:35:36
sucking sucking on RoboCop's knob someone described it to me um it does
1:35:42
though because of the color I've got um it does look a bit if if I'm going to do yeah exactly
1:35:50
if I'm going to RoboCop come on um but yeah so literally gave us this he came to a couple of the artist Opus classes
1:35:56
um including that we had one that was bring your own beer that was basically it was meant to be me and Byron and like
1:36:02
doing a few demos and at the beginning um I was like right let's be honest guys
1:36:08
who's here for 3D printing no one put their hand up I went right so we'll watch Byron do some dry brush and I'll
1:36:14
do some stuff in the corner people like paid and they got a brush with it but we had it was I think one of the best
1:36:19
classes we did cuz it's like really intimate really close um it was fantastic people just paid to watch us
1:36:26
get pissed for 3 hours like and they paid for two hours like it was meant to be like half eight till half1 and we
1:36:33
just kept going we we we we went an hour and a half over our 2our a lot of time it was great but anyway so deviant by
1:36:40
Design LLC uh on Instagram gave me this wonderful shirt and you know what I love
1:36:46
about it the most not only is it incredibly bright and Vivid and it hasn't got that really
1:36:52
rubbery stuff you get it's not quite but it's really
1:36:58
soft t-shirt it's really sof there'll be a clip at the end of how soft how soft
1:37:03
and likable a t-shirt it is yeah yeah thanks for that so uh stick around right
1:37:09
after the credit don't just give pass attention yeah but no check him out he's got a few designs I don't know how big
1:37:14
or small the company is I really like them and if you're out there and you're making t-shirts like you know that all
1:37:20
those ones I got from UK games Expo like the Judge Dread one and the cyberdine systems I don't wear them cuz the it's
1:37:27
so thick the cotton I'm like it makes me nipples saw and I don't I've got really
1:37:33
sensitive nipples so I don't I don't like that nice and soft really nice
1:37:39
material love him check this guy out um I got a free one I wasn't told to or
1:37:44
asked to promote it I just think it's awesome and he was a really nice guy cool very good um you got anybody ni
1:37:53
nice yeah I don't I don't know um you watching C paint yeah yeah yeah they're
1:38:00
good Henry's my happy place yeah I want Henry that's a t-shirt yeah yeah I want Henry to be my dad um I want I I just
1:38:08
want to to wear a t-shirt that just says Hey guys and then just a me in a
1:38:14
puddle someone designed that just a cartoon Oh Henry yeah Henry's uh uh yeah
1:38:22
yeah I'm really like every time I'm like oh oh there's a dog hello again um is she blocking my camera that' be
1:38:28
hilarious yes she is yes she is blocking camera that's right she's having a sniff of you yeah um yeah every time I watch a
1:38:35
c paint video I'm just like oh I get so much out of them great I feel being a an
1:38:41
aspirational airbrusher um on all that sort of stuff oh and lots of people told me that I need to get a mask when I'm
1:38:47
airbrushing so I bought one oh did you that's a bike mask though isn't it I saw that earlier I thought you biked here
1:38:53
know like I just bought a um I was going to reach it but I can't but there we go so people that that other one you had a
1:38:59
shiny rubber one with a zip on it oh that would be interesting like
1:39:05
like um yeah keep the paint out of your mouth imagine Anonymous an anonymous
1:39:11
Channel just called [ __ ] hair brusher no I think be
1:39:18
anonymous be um or just say oh like I don't know the next I do some airbrushing in or something oh lots of
1:39:25
people have been very concerned about my health and I really appreciate it so I bought a selection of masks and then every time there's time lapse I just
1:39:32
change into the variety of G just like have a Mike Myers mask or something on at one point like just like yeah just
1:39:39
one of them just a stormtrooper helmet I could put the iron warrior helmet on we'll finally get one of them built them
1:39:46
like a hockey mask yeah it I'm glad you say them like C of paints videos especially for airbrushing approach like
1:39:52
I was saying to buy the other night I was um like I really want to paint something but nothing's inspiring me and
1:39:58
then I just went on to call a paint I'll have a scan through until I can find something that I like and then I went
1:40:04
onto a one of the videos I thought oh yeah I've not done Eldar I could do an Eldar and then I went on it wasn't Henry
1:40:10
it was Andy and nobody yeah and he's like oh yeah you just do this and I think it was the might have been the
1:40:16
strik in scorpions and he he was prop chill like Henry is oh you just do this
1:40:21
and then I sort of like all right okay and then I went and pi pied up one of my striking scorpions that's built and I was like remembered how small it is and
1:40:28
then remembered I'm not Andy and I'm like yes I'm going to put that down I'll
1:40:34
find something else but I have been quickly and I don't know if you have been playing with the new P3 paints um
1:40:41
I've had a little a little play yes I have had a little play um and they
1:40:47
they're really interesting in that they're very different to most paints
1:40:52
that I've already used so feel like I could to to do like base coating and stuff I feel like you could use them straight out the pot like they're quite
1:40:59
yeah yeah like the consistency is is a bit thinner I've found yeah yeah I I get
1:41:05
what you mean yes it is maybe I just didn't shake it enough yeah no it's a bit no you're
1:41:12
right it's a bit thinner I don't think the coverage is there like straight out of the part oh yeah yeah oh yeah you
1:41:18
could probably paint you mean you can paint with straight out of the part kind of thing yeah I think it's close to there you probably need a bit of water
1:41:25
um but yeah no I know what you mean I think they they blend well coverage
1:41:30
isn't bad like your yellows are the yellows are weak your Blues are strong
1:41:37
yeah like you know generally as paint goes but they they're fairly consistent
1:41:42
some of them some of them are two or three coats some of them are two coats I feel like the gold is probably like the
1:41:49
shiniest gold I've ever used haven't really spent much time in the metallic but the way I describ them cuz I
1:41:54
actually use them for blending there's a couple of things that I wanted to say about them one is I just enjoyed it now
1:42:00
which is weird I was I originally learned to paint through Siege Studios yeah um and Siege Studios do a fantastic
1:42:07
course it's the master class or beginner Master Class Essentials course um and it's what taught me to paint like really
1:42:13
basic things at the beginning but they teach you how to glaze so I glaze that way and what's interesting is uh James
1:42:20
who runs sieg studios and is in the video for the for the two seconds of the video where they actually show somebody
1:42:27
painting with the paints it's James so was like and I had no idea because I've not spoken to him in ages that if he's
1:42:33
had any involvement in this he might have just been doing demos but if he's had any kind of say it's interesting
1:42:40
that they they blend really well as in glaze blend really well in the way I've
1:42:46
been taught to blend which is like almost stipple like scratch it on and
1:42:51
then cover it over maybe that's way everyone Blends but they blend really well and my my blend isn't great it
1:42:57
needs work but the thing that I found with these that most other paints
1:43:02
haven't given me is they feel enjoyable
1:43:08
to just like move around and do this like I found it very easy to do what you
1:43:14
do for a glaze and again I'm still not seasoned at it but you know thin it right down to
1:43:19
almost water get most of the paint off your brush and just apply it on in the direction of weakest
1:43:25
to heaviest pigment and and it felt good it felt enjoy and that's so hard to
1:43:32
explain because I'm not a poet yeah like no no some something like my my thoughts
1:43:39
on it were like from the very very limited use that I've had and I'm not
1:43:44
you know a good painter by any stretch of the imagination revie pain you're not a [ __ ] painter it's funny some I saw a
1:43:51
great thing like Tommy yeah yeah yeah like I'm I'm like I'm very self-critical in like all elements
1:43:57
of my life and and I understand that that's generally like a bad thing like um and uh i' play this game it's like
1:44:06
Boggle but it's called squar Dole because Wordle was really popular and like my my girlfriend and my sister play
1:44:12
it and some relatives and everything and they kind of got me into it I was so bad at it like that's finding words in the
1:44:19
4x4 or 5x5 square or whatever I'm just like um I can't do it and I'm just like
1:44:25
oh I'm such an idiot and I saw this post on like like a screenshot from Twitter or something and and someone said they were going to therapy and the therapist
1:44:31
was like you know don't put yourself down all the time it's not healthy so she was like I didn't want to go cold
1:44:37
turkey so I say oh I'm such an idiot but I'm really hot
1:44:43
though so for like a day I've been like oh I can't find this [ __ ] word I'm so
1:44:50
stupid but I'm really hot [Laughter]
1:44:56
just try and build up any any semblance of self-confidence it works um so I was
1:45:01
going to say yes painting um it's and I I realized the advice is very very hard
1:45:07
for people to do with paint is try before you buy ah yeah because it's it's
1:45:14
it's hard to describe how different it is to a a regular miniature paint we're
1:45:20
struggling and we both used it they're very unique in their function um like i'
1:45:26
describe them as as potentially like a an intermediate paint and and and it's
1:45:32
not necessarily like you know Richard Gray paint pretty much exclusively in Citadel paints yeah and is WIS golden
1:45:39
demons and I would also like him to be my dad um so he's coming to to spill
1:45:46
with us yeah he's going to be sat on the booth teaching we're going to be sat watching in paint yeah brilliant that's yeah really happy for you um we're going
1:45:53
to enjoy that yeah um so it yeah it they
1:45:59
the blending everything is is is quite unique and and so on so try before you buy but like it's going on Kickstarter I
1:46:06
think the first they're looking to release in like March next year when people will get their kickstarters and then I guess they'll be out in shops
1:46:12
after that so it it It's Tricky CU all the review copies have come out
1:46:18
now like NJ did a great video where he talks about it and all that sort of stuff and and and people go hey they're
1:46:23
amazing for blending and they're great and but if you don't paint in that style then you probably yeah don't really want
1:46:30
them or like the metallics might be of interest to you or something like that like or maybe you do want to paint in that style but all the other paints are
1:46:36
actually blocking you because like you follow a guy and you're like oh I haven't got that black but I've got this black and black black they're both black
1:46:42
paints and it's interesting because like the the thing I wanted I don't think I've got time now to do video content
1:46:50
cuz they they arrived a bit late they arrived whilst I was at Nova so I was like I can't get video out in time and I
1:46:56
only played with them like over the weekend but the thing I want to talk about is people say oh there's just too
1:47:02
many paints out there I don't think there are too many paints I think Brands don't do a good enough job where it's
1:47:10
not so direct of communicating what their paints are why they work and how to use them you've got
1:47:17
your Games Workshop your army painter and your and well the Army and they're
1:47:22
kind of Legacy they exist they're there but I suppose Games Workshop they at least show you painting guides but
1:47:30
people like Monument Hobbies um have hour long hours of twitch streams
1:47:36
telling you like how to do this how to do that how to get the most out of their paints and if there's anything that I
1:47:41
think that's brilliant yeah like look at look at like artist Opa series D yes
1:47:47
Byron are mate but series D would not be as big as they are now yeah if if it
1:47:53
wasn't for Byron doing those showing you how to use the tool that you've bought
1:47:59
and there aren't enough Brands out there showing you how to use their tools very good point so yeah but I think to to
1:48:07
Full Stop P3 Paints the way I want to describe them going forward like you know what a matte paint is you know what
1:48:14
a glass paint is these are the definition of satin yeah it's a good shout yeah yeah
1:48:22
yeah all of them quite consistently so I think they've all got a very consistent thing I am I've been on a bit of a I'm G
1:48:29
to redesign my area in the barber shop where I sit and paint I'm moving into an
1:48:34
into the back of my shop for for painting and uh I've been emptying all of that space out and I found um a 3p a
1:48:43
P3 paint the day um like it's really quite Vivid green and it fell down the
1:48:49
back of in this area it fell down the back of something and I picked it up still
1:48:55
perfect and I know yeah I know it's been down there for probably over 10 years
1:49:01
yeah wow yeah cuz those those pots they are the original pots they gave us in the in the demo so they in retail
1:49:09
they're coming in dropper bottles you can only get them in the old school pot if you back the kickstarter oh right so
1:49:14
they're going to go retail dropper yeah but all this like the last time I checked I think I think I checked the kickstarter like two days in half a
1:49:20
million quid already wow wow that's what that's what happens when you get John N doing a video about you you PID that
1:49:28
could have been bottles of water in a to but done that but no they are like I
1:49:34
think John has said it like I don't see why there's a point now me doing content cuz John's said most of what I would say
1:49:40
and he's a better painter than me yeah um so yeah it's fine I'll do a review up for the website but yeah it's solid
1:49:47
stuff so far and it is going to be tweaked the one thing that annoyed me and if you're watching team Forge games
1:49:53
you sent me three blacks so there's two blacks there's like a a warm black a cool black one of is metallic a metallic
1:50:00
Bo black boiler black yeah none of them were cold black no you got to be a for
1:50:06
cold black everyone has so I don't know if um cuz I think Matt was saying like he's looking at making some did he say
1:50:13
he was looking I can't remember if he was looking to like maybe change it up a bit or at least modernize it and there
1:50:18
might be some slight changes but everyone loved Cole black I I liked it was all right I quite like
1:50:24
sanguin Bas more but um yeah like that was being the one paint I didn't get so
1:50:29
I don't know if that's even ready yet I I can't remember if I saw it on anyone else's video did you get call Black do
1:50:35
you know no damn I got um uh a black that said something black and it was
1:50:41
like gray yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah actually there I got a message uh we got a message on Instagram uh we talked
1:50:48
about Mass Effect in uh in the show The Chap uh Callum France was like Hey all
1:50:53
thanks for the lovely words about Mass Effect the board game um he was like I painted the box art and it's lovely box
1:51:00
art the board game visions of the miniature so I thought I'd send the pictures over here if you hadn't seen
1:51:05
them already for some painting inspiration these were pre-production resid Miniatures so some details have changed uh femap is UNH helmeted in the
1:51:12
final product and Gus's rifle was changed slightly so it could be cast in a in a single piece but he he's um sent
1:51:19
me the pictures over um and I'll I'll I'll stick them over this but they're
1:51:24
just so exceptional I'll I'll show we'll have a look in a second so go I wish we
1:51:29
could do that I wish like and a couple of companies have started doing it like medius has done some of it with um
1:51:38
Fallout is you can get some of the models in resin I think maybe you can even get Lucy in resin I don't know um
1:51:45
but I get why companies don't do it because um obviously like there's the
1:51:52
risk with resin with digital sharing and you know like but they did say what was that one we saw with the vampires the
1:51:58
Romans versus cthulu and he said yeah they'll be available in in boxes and as
1:52:04
digital STL files like fantastic more companies doing that please then we've got Choice well Mantic have done that
1:52:11
haven't they Mantic have made their um Mantic I think now you know their their version of Legends you know milites that
1:52:17
Mante can't produ anymore oh okay theyve turned them all in Chester brilliant which is a really good yeah well done
1:52:23
man this uh this is lovely uh I was just yeah so Callum is the uh he's a studio
1:52:29
painter for medius and he can actually say that on his Instagram
1:52:34
how not part of the team he was proud to be part of the team yeah so that's great so go and give
1:52:41
Callum a follow and um and yeah look at all of his awesome work and it looks like he got married recently I'm going
1:52:46
to dive in on the part of theam you you got married recently Yeahs [Laughter]
1:52:54
it looks like it was like a very nice have you got video of his nup CHS Cathedral did you not did you not do his nup CHS no I don't I don't film or
1:53:01
photograph every single wedding in the UK don't you busy right I mean I'm trying I'm
1:53:08
trying to for next year yeah I need to I need to get some so if you get married next year and you live in the UK yeah let me know might be might be Warhammer
1:53:16
discount yeah he prepared to come along and uh film your nals I did want to have a Counterpoint but it feels spoonfed now
1:53:23
gone okay so are we done I think so good especially because I think me dog's looking at me for a we yet again I think
1:53:29
that's our new marker for when an episodes du to dog go for the dog's just
1:53:35
like you've lost me guys come on yeah I might I might try the same like Jeff I need a we all right then he needs a we
1:53:41
so yeah I do need a we as well oh yeah okay cool thanks for joining us patreons
1:53:48
we love you you literally are keeping the lights on thank you so much for being there for us yeah and thanks again
1:53:54
for coming along R thank thank you you're welcome yeah I'm also here
1:54:01
bye this so look feel it not there I knew you'd go for bloody
1:54:09
hell well there you go there's the intro substantial empty I'm trying to hide
1:54:15
them that's the thing too did that we were out for a drink you stop playing with me
1:54:22
I like you want to be cold that studio with that light fing H I'm just I'm just
1:54:28
going to cut cut that bit in F you may as well I might just move it right to the end

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