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Creality K1C Review - Missing the Point
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Oct 8, 2024
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I've got to admit the amount of videos
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out there with thumbnails questioning
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whether this machine is a better pick
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than a bamboo is well it's rather
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astounding and I'm not going to go with
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no disrespect at all to my fellow
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creators after all I've used the same
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clickbait just to get views on my videos
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I just want to save you the time for
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those people wondering no it isn't
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thanks for watching please tune in next
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week but seriously how close is it well
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reality certainly are getting there and
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are probably the closest brand to
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toppling the current king of 3D PR
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but what is it that they're missing well
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honestly they're tripping themselves up
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here but not enough that this printer
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should be completely ignored by everyone
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because for a subset of printing
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enthusiasts this will be a far more
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appealing product than anything bamboo
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offers so hi I'm Ross and this is f
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Hammer videos so forgive me if this
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video seems a little phoned in it's not
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intended that way but honestly this
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isn't a massive upgrade from the K1 that
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I reviewed just a few months ago and if
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creality are going to re-release a more
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robust version of that printer then well
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it's probably worth me just saying go
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and watch that previous video so we can
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all just focus on the new stuff here but
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let's quickly recap for anyone who
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hasn't seen that video or that printer
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unlike other creators who got their K1
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early I was late to the party and
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thankfully this meant I didn't have any
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of the issues that other people faced I
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feel that they were Trea more like beta
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testers than reviewers just due to how
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many problems people reported with those
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early machines and the K1 and the K1 see
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well they're the same enclosed corxy fdm
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printer with a build volume of 220x 220x
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250 mm and it works it worked decently
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well for what I wanted to do with it but
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the fan on the hot end is well it's so
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incredibly loud I'd actually forgotten
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how loud this was until I cracked out
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the k1c and the point is you aren't
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going to want to be in the same thing
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when this thing's running even if you
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have air extraction set up it has a
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quiet mode but well consider that as
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slow printing mode where other printers
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can print fast whilst being quieter and
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like always I'm going to qualify this
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video but I'm not going to apologize for
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it anymore I'm someone who is more into
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3D printing Parts than wanting to play
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around with tweaking and tinkering with
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a printer and my videos are aimed at
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people with a similar mindset now with
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that earlier model I also like that
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Cali's version of cura was a more
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simplified UI with many of the complex
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parameters hidden behind several layers
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of menu it keeps things simple for the
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beginner but leaves everything
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accessible should you eventually want to
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tweak some less than basic settings for
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the most part this creality print
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desktop app is load a model and choose
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your material type send the print to the
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machine remotely and you can monitor it
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from the same app in my previous video I
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also had a rent about the creality cloud
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phone app which was horrible then and is
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still horrible now but anyway that's
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that I generally liked my K1 apart from
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how loud it was my favor of it was
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generally because well it was easy to
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use would I pick it over its direct
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competitor printer no two reasons one is
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that the current leading brand is still
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light years ahead of this in terms of
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user experience by not only having a
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much better user experience with the PC
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and phone apps designed far more tightly
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than what we have here but they also
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have an entire knowledge base for their
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product should you encounter issues
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which will guide you to the solution
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step by step and that brand has shown
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commitment to those machines by
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continually improving what these do
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years after release creality still have
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some work to do in that regard in order
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to win back consumer trust having
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truncated support on previous machines
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far sooner than many of us wish they
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would have and reason to is that where
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other brands have grown in the last
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several months since the K1 was released
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creality have only managed to move so
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far as yeah this is kind of okay now and
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that brings us onto the k1c setup wise
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this is identical to the K1 in every way
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remove the foam unbolt the bed attach
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the door handle the screen and the
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filament reel holder that's it when I
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was first shown the printer I was given
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a picture where there's a little box
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next to the printer with two reels of
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filament in this same picture is the one
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you see now on the K1 C's web page but
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the picture I had did not have the word
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optional Above This accessory so I
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instantly assumed this was a small AMS
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and creality are releasing a printer
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with a multicolor option but the C does
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not mean color it means carbon and this
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accessory is no more than an optional
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filament dryer box and whilst this is an
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optional accessory this or something
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like it would be incredibly handy
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considering the k1c still mounts its
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filament reels on the back of the
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machine yes they give you a printable
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reel holder that goes on the side but it
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seems like lazy design like they
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couldn't be bothered to add the extra
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plastic even though they knew that the
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original layout was terrible anyway I
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don't remember having so much of an
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issue loading filament in my original K1
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but trying to get this filament through
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the runout sensor on the back was an
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absolute pain here as it kept missing
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the PTFE tube on the back end of that
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sensor that doubles how awkward it
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already is to swap new filament in it
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was then that I realized that even with
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creality dry box accessory you won't
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actually get a sealed system from dry
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box to hot end and that's due to a gap
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between the sensor and the next PTFE
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tube it's not the biggest issue and I
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doubt this would attract that much
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moisture into the filament reel but
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still it's odd that this was designed to
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allow a gap where all of the brands with
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a similar build style for their sensors
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have a sealed in and out this is an
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annoyance we really don't need on a
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modern printer now when it comes to the
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upgraded features in the k1c well
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they've added the camera by default you
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can get this as an add-on for the K1
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which I did but now it comes as standard
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that's kind of cool you can make okay
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time lapses but your options for this
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are pretty much on or off again
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somewhere that competing brands have the
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option of smooth time lapses which Park
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the hot end between layers rather than
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having it judder about the place through
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the entire sequence don't get me wrong
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it's not bad by any stretch it's just a
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preference that you don't have here
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which makes it comparatively limited but
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they also boast some AI features that
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come with this I remember on my K1 that
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the printer warned me there was a print
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on my bed one time before I started
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printing because I'd forgotten about it
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but features like spaghetti detection
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and first layer detection are still in
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beta on the k1c these limited time-lapse
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functions and beta level AI features are
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exactly what I'm talking about in regard
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to their limited software growth in all
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this time and oddly there's no lidar on
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this upgraded unit I guess this may
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still be coming out it was rumored to
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come for the K1 at some point as an
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optional upgrade but we still haven't
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seen it it's already there on the K1 Max
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and the idea behind this component is
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that it should be able to help calibrate
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flow rate and deliver better bed
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adhesion but I never really had an issue
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with adhesion between the K1 and the K1
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Max anyway again though maybe I was
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lucky with my K1 this is another
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potential example of limited growth as I
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would have expected to have had it by
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now or maybe this just isn't happening
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now another upgrade is the advertised
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Tri metal unicorn nozzle and the
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website's own poorly optimized low
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resolution full screen image of this
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nozzle system advertises a one-handed
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Swap and can you swap it one-handed like
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some online short show no no you can't
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okay well arguably you can but only
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after you unscrew the fascia remove the
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shoe from the Noz and loosen it with a
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hex wrench and yes you need to remove
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the cover which has screws not magnets
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otherwise you can't get the shoe back on
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when you replace it honestly I've got to
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ask am I being stupid here am I missing
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something because this is arguably
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harder than to swap nozzles from a few
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Generations ago because this one has a
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significantly longer thread so therefore
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it takes longer to unscrew than those
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older ones I don't get what the benefit
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is here what am I missing where am I
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being stupid but presume ass uming I'm
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not being stupid and this is a bit of a
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crazy claim on the subject of absolute
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BS claims on the web page creality claim
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the outof boox experience can take you
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from unboxing to powering on in 3
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minutes let me think of an appropriate
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and articulate response to
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that shut up creality I absolutely love
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the fact that they qualify this claim
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with data from creality Lab like what is
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in this lab environment that changes it
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so much from home and gets it down to 3
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minutes did they use an F1 pit crew to
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do the unboxing the only way that this
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is even possible is if they unboxed it
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and plugged it in before removing any of
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the foam or bed retaining screws
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honestly in reflection is that it is
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that how they got away with this claim
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because the outof Box experience on the
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screen walks you through the removal of
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this components is that honestly how
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they're saying it's 3 minutes Jesus
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Christ sorry to blaspheme but if you
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know me you know I get triggered by
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overe Ecentric marketing claims and this
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one Takes the Cake and this is why
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creality just don't understand the
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market be honest with me if you're out
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there and you bought this printer
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because the setup claimed to be only 3
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minutes where other printers claim 15
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minutes or more if that claim swayed
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your purchase towards this at all please
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let me know in the comments because
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aside from sarcasm and jokes I expect
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that to be zero people so what else have
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they done well they've got stronger
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motors for The Zed axis rails cool I
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didn't have an issue before but others
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have and this is a decent mechanical
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upgrade and the UI has had some
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enhancement but this is mostly
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translation based and I only noticed
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because I didn't notice translation
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issues that I knew existed when I tested
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the K1 the UI in general is nice it's
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fairly intuitive I can't really knock it
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if anything I'd say to weaker 3D printer
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brands this is what okay looks like like
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that is par you need to do this minimum
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and then go from there but anyway I need
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to call out the most amusing upgrade and
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this is in the door and the hinges the
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hinges are now dampened to prevent the
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door swinging open and in the case that
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it does and hits something there's now
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an anti-shatter film built in and all of
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this exists because of Uncle Jesse's
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somewhat famous do smashing incident
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with his K1 Max I hope people of the
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future study this as an example of what
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a professional response to a meme looks
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like now I'm joking but to be fair these
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are sensible improvements now the one
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other thing I care about is the
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inclusion of a silicon wiping strip
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which well it's just glued onto the back
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of the build plate but that brings me to
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the funniest part of this whole offering
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it's called the k1c because it's made
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for carbon reinforced filaments but the
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build plate they give you with this
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machine is for pla it says it right
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there on the build plate for PLA and
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that type of build plate is the only one
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you can get for this machine from
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creality right now and yes you can get
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other plates from third parties
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including those plates that work on the
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K1 but this printer is expecting a
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silicon wiping strip which creality
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doesn't currently sell like come on
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creality really you are literally why I
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hate the term influencer because an
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influencer would probably ignore all of
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this and exist to promote your product
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I'm trying to be objective I'm trying my
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hardest to show people all the benefits
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of your machine you are making my job so
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difficult ra I'm literally talking to
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you like an angry dad would talk to his
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kids I don't know what else to say like
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does nobody look at these and realize
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how dumb this is before it goes to
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Market we are releasing the k1c cool
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what does the C mean the c means carbon
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oh great so the printer prints carbon
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and it's made for carbon yeah well what
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about the build plate that's made for
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pla no no one noticed that okay let's
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move on now this printer does have one
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saving Grace it's not one for me but it
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exists and I would be unfair to
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completely ignore it and whilst I've
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been somewhat sour on this machine I
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don't hate it I do like it it printed
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carbon reinforced pla just fine it
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printed a large and complex model with
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great results and detail but I'm a
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printer critic and there's a lot to
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critique here that just doesn't need to
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exist my attitude towards this is not
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against the performance or the hardware
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that's fine but creality has trained its
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consumers to trust only that they'll
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release new products spend a few months
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improving them and then move on to the
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next product and this redo of the K1
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Echoes that same message now don't get
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me wrong I do like this printer I really
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do and in the whole Myriad of options
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available out there this is the only one
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i' recommend that doesn't belong to the
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current King brand of 3D printers and
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where this will appeal to people is that
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well it is a fairly decently built bit
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of Kit and it is better than the K1
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although some design choices or at least
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release or marketing choices have been a
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bit daed it's a fairly decent bit of Kit
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and also creality have made it open
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source so if you're wanting an open-
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Source printer and a Pro open- Source
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printers this I think should be a solid
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top pick for you as for me I want a
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working printer which has supported
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thoroughly for a long time and is
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continually and regularly enriched with
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regular software and firmware updates
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one that has tidy support and an
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expansive curated and managed knowledge
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base and that's not what this is so it's
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not bad I do like it but it's just not
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quite the right one for me and what I
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want from a printer if it's what you
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want that's totally fine I completely
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understand why people want more open
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choices and I'm far from anti reality
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because I'd still pick the K1 Max as the
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best current larger format fdm printer
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I've used despite it not having some of
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these new features so do you think we'll
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again for your time until next time
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frankly my dear I don't give a damn
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bammer out
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