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shake hands should we do that get out of my house now I don't know why keep I don't know
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why people out there will have an attitude of oh I don't mind taking from the corporation yeah sure but if they
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knew that Darren laan sculpted it would they steal from Darren is the problem is
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the problem with dehumanizing uh you corporations isn't it there are real people involved and they're really
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talented and skilled and you just don't know their names it's a shame I usually paint silly little Miniatures what we're
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going to do in this video I think is share that illumination with you the 3D printing
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novice hi there I'm Ross and you're watching midwinter minis right then so
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you're not a complete beginner you know a few things but I would say I'm very much a novice I've 3D printed in the past and it failed miserably and I got
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rid of my 3D printer I printed one successful thing that I managed to use in a video tried to print some things
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gave up because it became a hobby in and of itself and I didn't have time for that so I bailed on it but today we
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we've gone through some other things today we've set him up we've got him a gk2 and you can learn about his experience with that on his channel f
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Hammer videos no anyway you'll figure it out there'll be links down in the description but anyway so you've reached
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out to your community of patrons yeah because obviously I have my experience and I have my bias based on what I've
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already done I asked my patreon supporters if they had any specific
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questions about 3D printing whether it's getting into it or kind of problems they've been facing if they are just
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kind of the beginner stages of doing it and I have a list of them here that are the pretty good ones and asked by
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multiple people I mean all of them are covered I haven't ignored anyone should we just go through them yeah yeah no
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problem so obviously this will be useful not only to these people but anybody else who I'm guessing who is a novice
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once is considering getting into 3D printing I think you've obviously got your list of questions there but this
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should pretty much run through the majority of the Journey of what people are thinking and the questions they're
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asking before they even get started so I've had a quick browse over some of them but some of them I've not been allowed to see no I want your instant
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instant gutal visceral reaction to them okay I've got a video for that all first question is pretty generic and will act
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as a gear primer for you if you're watching this video for some reason and are like what the hell are you guys
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talking about we're talking about 3D printing the Free Will bat and jam deanii are ask how does it work in
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general and I have absolutely no idea how 3 printing works so just give us a a
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basic overview of what 3D printing is and how it works if you please not a problem I'm going to try and do this
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without sounding very nerdy so basically there are two types of 3D printing
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there's resin Printing and plastic printing but what we are focusing on for Miniatures is resin printing so ignore
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all that plastic where you've got like a thing that goes around and builds stuff out of melted plastic we're talking
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about resin the basic basic way it works is you pull resin into a vat UV light shines up through the vat and cures it
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and it goes through an LCD that renders shapes and it goes through those shapes
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and then it cures that as a layer then it lifts goes back down cures another layer I did a video the other day
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actually that kind of explained it um or I tried to explain it so the idea is so you can sort of visualize it it's like
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imagine getting a banana and then slicing it evenly in you know what it looks like I'm going to cut you off cuz
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I'm rude do you know what it looks like it looks like an MRI scan you know when they do that and you can like look at it
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layer by layer cuz it's divided suppose it is yeah yeah it's a good example weirdly like I believe they work in
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voxal as well which is a thing that 3D printers based on what I was reading the other day but yeah but this the simple
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visualization cuz I think this will be a good way to reference it slice of vegetable into tiny slices and it'll
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you'll be there as slices hold it all back together it's still the shape of the original object that's that's how a 3D printer generally works I'm going to
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give that answer an eight out of 10 that's pretty wow I didn't realize I was getting scored yes right okay here we go
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he gone into fdm as well I would have you know oh is that why no it's fine don't worry about it you've missed your chance okay Riley Cooper Ed nerdin and
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survivors Quest all ask a kind of similar question that I've truncated into this what are the best slices for
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fdm versus resin printing also just to
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add on to this um they've been getting repeated fails so they want to know what are the best ways to learn support
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placement which kind of goes hand inand right and how best to add supports onto models for easy removal without loss of
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detail oh BL that is a that is a little big three-part question right so who was
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that that was um that was Riley survivors Quest so right guys and anybody else who's watching so slicers
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first off we can break that down so for resin printing there's a bit of an argument what's better chitu box or
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light cheese slicer honestly the answer is both we have got a special guest here we've got Nessa who wants to be on the
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video so bad don't you you do go on say hi you've been jumping up with me all
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morning and she's camera is she camera shy no she's just a dick hello hello puppy brilant all right
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we'll go back through it so so yeah so there's a couple of approaches uh for resin printing the best slices at the
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moment are ly and chitu box I always say lchi is better if you want to you want
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to support your models it's just got a better workflow and that sort of thing however chitu box generally has fewer issues when you slice your model
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actually do the turning it from 3D into an image file for the printer process mainly because chitty box are the guys
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who make most of the control boards for printers there are fewer technical issues is the main thing so those are
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your choices there there isn't a better one I use both I will support in L CH export and then uh slicing chitsu box in
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fdm printing the best slicer at the moment is called Orca slicer which is a weird one because that is built off the
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back of the bamboo Studio slicer which is built off the back of the prusser slicer which is built off the back of the slice 3r application but yeah Orca
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is the one that everyone's loving at the moment because it's like bamboo slicer Plus for every printer out there which
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is really good the second part of the question so support placement is I mean that's a whole video in itself in fact
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I've already got a video on that on very B and that only touches the surface very basic support placement generally you
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want supports in areas that aren't in recess detail aren't in extremities you want them on as many flat surfaces as
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possible and then you really need to practice and practice and practice and learn from a lot of
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experts thanks Nessa big shakes but yeah you really
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need to practice and practice and practice and learn from other experts who do it in the industry to understand
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like where do you want is one big support better than many little supports
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for a specific area and that sort of thing it's a learn skill through trial and error right it's not just you don't just like download a program and press a
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button and it's done no there's a lot more to it unfortunately exactly yeah even that a real deep question to go in
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at number two I kind of third part I kind of phased out a bit there I'm not going to lie when he started talking
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about different slices I was like no we have been using chitty box though over the weekend weekends the middle of the
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week we have been using chitty box it's only been a day you you called it a very different name while I was using it it
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sounds like chitsu box it does sound like chitsu box yes it it has a very popular it has its issues which I
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straight away they both do they I'm going to give that answer a seven out of 10 good no worries could have been more
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interesting this is real this is raw like this is the beauty of it guys there is there's nothing prepared here I don't
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know anything I'm not reading from a script for once so stick to my usual videos they are much better than this
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same okay so Frankie cybert and Felix Thomas ask where should someone start
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and is it really that inexpensive compared to buying models from Games Workshop and is there a kind of monetary
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Break Even point where you feel like the initial investment in buying and using a
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3D printer and the resin and all of the paraphernalia outweighs just buying pre-made
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models that's a big question so uh Frankie and Felix good question there so
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the break even point it's a bit of a weird thing and I've talked to this about a few people when I got into it like I I like Miniatures I everybody
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knows I like Warhammer but I don't like playing Warhammer I like to paint Warhammer so to me it doesn't really
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matter um whether or not I can get Warhammer Miniatures or other Miniatures I just want fun things to paint yes so
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for me the approach has always been I really enjoy things that I can paint the
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break even Point has been oh I now have a wider World open up to me but it is in
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many ways a different Hobby in regard to your approach like how you can get in you can get started with a 3D printer
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people say for £1 that'll get get you a printer but then you've as you've seen like before I even arrived I said right
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get one of these and get one of them and get one of this um and then you've got to buy the models themselves if you want decent quality stls I'd say your
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budget's starting at around £200 if you are looking to replace Warhammer as a hobby there are options Like onepage
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rules out there and other war games that are 3D printer specific they make models um for them and you can actually get a
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starter kit for onepage rules for free now they aren't as good as a Warhammer starter kit because they're all
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identical models or there are three types of identical models in the set um so you don't get
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the variety you don't get the sculpture thing but you can essentially get a 3D printer for £100 you can get uh the kit
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that I mean what you spent less than 3040 on that um and then the extra
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paraphernalia to to stop yourself from ruining your carpets exactly yeah get yourself a nice big floor mat
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um I don't I don't think we're being smiled at at the moment spoiler alert yeah get your 3D printer get yourself uh
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a plastic or a plastic tray or a silicon mat get yourself a cleaning solution
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pickle jar get yourself a floor mat optional depends how much you love your flaw and resin there much cheaper you
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can get it for for a half decent one you can get it for like 20 I sell a resin for £50 it's more expensive but get
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what's good for you so £ 150 you can get started and then you can get models for
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free off the back of that Beyond there it then has broke even versus what you can get so there you are so really
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if you were talking about the potential of buying a box set or a particular
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model that is in the region of like 200 maybe 250 once you factor in all of the paraphernalia I would say that's kind of
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the the break even point just for for 250 you're going well beyond like
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genuinely but it's not just a monetary investment there is a huge amount of
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time and uh learning involved just in the same way that when you first got into the a wargaming hobby whether it's
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painting or or playing you don't just start by it and instantly know how to do everything that you there's a big old
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learning curve so that is a thing to factor in as well and your time is valuable it's not just money do you know
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what I mean yeah I'm going to give you an eight eight out of 10 for that one that was pretty good well done am I going to get 10 for any of these yes
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good jbjb fud bump asks a good resin resin mix for minis
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not too bendy not too br I've experienced this as well because my first batch of stuff was so incredibly
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brittle as soon as you put any pressure on it it just shatter so uh yes a really good resin that's not too bendy not too
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brittle is wargamer by faux hammer and yes that's 3D printed um uh this is our
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own it's made specifically for Miniatures and to emulate Plastics but no in all seriousness in all seriousness there are
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so many resins out there there are tons of them and the general rule of thumb is
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if you get some something that's more bendy you lose detail yes because it it's bending on the plate as you're
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Printing and and it's a bit softer if you get something that's really high detail it's generally it just breaks
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it's too brittle so things like Frozen's Mega 8K resin is beautiful resin but you
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can like for smaller Miniatures you can look at it and it just falls apart so it's about finding that balance some people really like surch um resins so s
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Tech do what's called Fast resin very similar to Frozen's resin but you can pour in like 20% of what they call the
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tenacious resin and do that personally I don't like mixing a lot of people don't like the mess anyway so mixing is crazy
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I don't like mixing paint for a color I don't like if it's not in a pot I won't use it so but I've got the same attitude
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with this I'm assuming there are more people out there who don't want to mix just want to buy a product and use it yeah exactly fair so um it's been a
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thing of yours for a while though right finding that kind of uh resin that oh yeah would essentially act like popular
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miniature company's plastic exactly acts when it's cured and well from The Minis
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that we managed to print off in the session we've had together they do feel like that there's Flex to them they
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don't snap uh you know and they feel great yeah it's it's something well done
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thank you it's something we've put a lot of effort into and something I'm going to call everyone out here like none of
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the resin companies understand how to make Miniatures resin when they call it it's called TGM resin we know we've got
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one coming to the US soon very soon right okay I'm going to give
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that one out of 10 cuz it was just self promotion
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promotion wow oh big slap Yeah question five maybe
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four five Sahar says what kind of PPE would you recommend for a safer resin
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set up and is resin at all suitable in a domestic
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setting um I think we've learned the answer to that haven't we there this is kind of a spoiler the last couple of
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days it's a two-part answer one so the PPE you should use is definitely don't
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ever get it on your hands your skin or anything like that it's horrible stuff to get on you I've got it on me before
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I've been fine for a couple of days and then I've just been like scratch scratch scratch and before I know I'm 15 layers deep just from getting a drop on my skin
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it's not nice stuff you shouldn't take it lightly as for working with it I get a silicon mat make sure everything stays
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down on there so at least then I've got a contained area to clean as for PPE gloves are a must at all times and
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ideally when you're actually opening it opening it and cleaning it you want a decent respirator mask that's filtered
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as well with a Char proper charcoal filter in there but as for the health concerns I honestly don't know as much
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as I should I don't think anyone does you you look online you see claims that these can't hurt you at all because the
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amounts are so minimal to you're all going to die holy [ __ ] we really are
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going to die um and the answer is I don't know I'm not a scientist I can't do that any
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video I do is look this is me just I think realistically it's probably
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going to be somewhere in between right it's not totally harmless but also people have now been doing this for like
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a home hobby for like five six years true quite a lot of people since like the resin affordable resin 3d printing's
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come and there hasn't been like a market increase in loads of like you know middle-aged men going into hospital with
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you know not yet but I mean how long problems were we smoking before we realized that that was a problem so I
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don't want to what what I say to like you know everybody out there take take whatever precautions take as many
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precautions as you can and whatever risks you're uncomfortable safe for a home environment again I wouldn't get it on my skin so I wouldn't get it anywhere
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near kids or dogs or anything like that most people will put it out in their garages and sheds I'm lucky cuz I've set
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up a ventilation system so right behind my printer I am venting everything out outside and then it's the envir en's
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problem that bit's not going in the video I'm going to give that answer a 10 out of 10 well done very honest that was
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the answer that is honest but I don't know yeah I know but more people should just say they don't know things it's
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great more should be researched into that 100% so next question from Ben mishik
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and sha green they both kind of ask a very similar question which leads on from the question before which is I live
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in a small flat and want to know how stinky SL toxic it is and can I set it off by opening a window or and will I
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poison my dog I think we kind of covered that um you yeah if your dog goes licking it um
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not no should not happen um how stinky it is it varies like you can the the
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resin you've been testing I would imagine you probably determined it's not as smelly the combo the combo of what
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we've been using today which is odorless spirits and your resin there's like tiny
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tiny smell it's like less smelly than when I airbrush some paints yeah it's very discreet however I do have an air
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quality Monitor and it is going crazy at the moment with the windows closed so I
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would say I mean I know you're supposed to be answering these questions no no go I want it's good to know your view on it
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as well I would say unless you can invest a ton into like extractors and
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like having really good air circulation it's not really appropriate for a small
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yeah apartment or a small flat yeah resin printing anyway fdm maybe is like
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more there's it depends what you're printing your dog is not going to eat your plastic and if they are how harmful are
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they we don't know but yeah fdm printing is a bit easier but I mean even in saying that I'm not trying to say you're
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wrong but at the same time you're wrong there are solutions so for those
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people in a flat who desperately want to do this what a lot of people have done is is gotten things like a Hydroponics
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grow tent with a small fan and extractor and then just Chuck the hose out the window like when you're airbrushing how
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Okay so followup question from me how can you uh start 3D printing at home in a small apartment without all of your
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neighbors and everyone thinking you're growing weed Fair Point yeah that that's the
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other thing like a lot of people do it in Loft and attic obviously keep that insulated as well I'm going to give the answer an eight out of 10 well done okay
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DJ kuroto asks how do amateur printers make supports for models that don't
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already have them I've got a video on that I promise not to feel like every single one of these questions you could just say I could I could yeah so in all
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seriousness Auto supports is my approach I've got a really crazy video let me
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explain it without just going go and watch my channel and but I have got a video on the basic approach which when
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you look at it seems like add Auto supports then delete them all then add them all manually but the reason for it
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is auto support show you inform you of the areas
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whats to beily supp what do so and then all you do is you use that as a reference and then you go back in and go
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if you've got an elbow with like a gun or something like that and the gun has like rivets in the bottom Auto supports
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will just stick it in the rivets but actually if you take that off there and just move it to these back Corners it'll still be just as supported but you're
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not encroaching in the detail which is key so but again check out F Hammer
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videos for more information on that answer I was going to give you 10 for that but I'm going to give you a n for the disgusting self plug um okay wait
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hang on you're you're you're docking me a mark because I'm plugging my content
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on my channel okay um B devki says for those
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who do not have space for permanent setups uh best tips for setup or cleaning storage and also I think this
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is a really important one disposal of resin cleaning water y it's going to
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vary like in regard to your setup you're more than likely going to have at least a printer then you're going to want a
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cleaning area which which is as much as a silicon mat or something like that um
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and then you're going to want an area for washing which can go on top of your silicon mat if you're using a pickle jar or something like that so all of that
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your pickle jars a self sealing so you can leave your cleaning solution in it that just needs to go somewhere safe out of the reach of kids and pets um your
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printer ideally what you want to do is you most printers come with a bunch of filters so you can just pour the resin
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from the vat it's not the cleanest but do it on top of your mat again it's not the cleanest pour it from your V back
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into the bottle of resin tighten it up put the printer out of the way safe for kids and pets I can't go specifically
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into what space you've got um I don't know people's sizes but you're going to need somewhere to put the large equipment when it's not in use
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essentially I've got this set up on a bookcase do you know what I mean yeah you've got to dance around a bit moving your cure station but the Cure station's
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like the most easiest to move part and the most infrequently used part yes
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because you can print and print print and print and you can clean and clean and clean but then the final piece is like I'll just it all in a together so
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that's easy enough but yeah and the second part of that question was remind me as BTO says disposal tips right this
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is a good one so do not dispose of liquid resin in the trash not a lot of people know this and they go oh I want a
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water washable resin and then they'll get a water washable resin and they'll rinse it in the sink not good shouldn't ever go in the sink um what you need to
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do any liquid resin before you dispose of it needs to be cured so there's a couple ways you can put it in clear bags
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and stick it out in the sun either on a balcony in a window your garden something like that again sa from kids
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and pets and upper height um let all the resin cure then you can pour off the waist and Bin the cured resin another
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way to do it is um obviously I said to you get a pickle jar get a large pickle jar um you can empty the cleaning liquid
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from that back into the bottle you can then use your pickle jar pour your waste into that stick it in a curing station
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if you've got one and just let it spin that'll cure off the resin same with your gloves stick it all in there cure
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it all off make it hard and Bin it that way but do not put liquid resin down the sink in the bin or anything like that it
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needs to all of these things really need to go to proper chemical disposal facilities if you're leaving them in
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liquid form that's nerdy as hell but it's important though right it is yeah
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like let's not kill our planet any more than we already have yes and also uh I don't
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imagine like water treatment facilities are very very geared up to filtering out
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like UV curable resin in the water do you know what I mean maybe that's a video I should nip round to seven
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Trends um anyway that's purely speculation I'll give that a 10 out of 10 well done good answer um original
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armed profit asks is there any advice for calibration a friend tried to get
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into 3D printing and couldn't didn't get either of his printers to work and gave up in frustration that's not uncommon
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that's what happened to me y that that isn't uncommon it's not easy calibrating this printer was about 6% the difficulty
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of calibrating the printer I had before yeah yeah you just had to put the thing
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on put the clamp down and like lower it oh with the little pieces of Pap yeah
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the little measuring things these boys yep and then it was done and it didn't
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fail yeah like 2 days to level the bed on
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because every because it had like screws in different places and every single time you tightened one it would loosen
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the other and it was just like I'm not saying like get a better printer but I think some printers are more susceptible
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to having bed leveling issues than other oh God yeah right yeah they're called it eligo and that and the reason why I'm
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doing that that is a very inflammatory comment that a lot of people are going to go absolutely mental over but eligo
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have still got that ball joint and yeah it's like that when you adjust one it'll
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adjust another side there are ways to do it so um you used to have to put paper down now you just lower it hold it in
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the vat put pressure on it and tighten it it's easier but the problem with that is when you print if you print something
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that's heavier one side or a bigger model one side of the plate as that's printing it's slowly nudging it out of
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alignment so every two or three prints you're going to have to sort again but other than those we don't have them anymore but there will definitely be
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seven or eight people who uh comment below this video and say I've never had a problem with mine great enjoy being in
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that club guys I give that an 11 out of 10 for the Sass but no serious can I I just want to
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go on from that and say when you couldn't get it working properly a lot of it is that that's just leveling there's then the whole configuration the
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bigger thing to know about 3D printing is is twofold one is you cannot get
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somebody else's settings and just use them because it's so dependent on your
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environment the temperature now thankfully you've got the gk2 which regulates temperature the resin the
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layup height all of these things affect 3D printing so this is the bit where I'm
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going to self plug I've got a video on my channel which is the quick steps we
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I'm going to lose my 11 you're back to 10 I am damn it but again it is the quick it's the easy way it's the run
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this exposure test a few times this is what you're looking for that's Perfect Exposure bump it up a bit and print and
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if you can't get it stuck to the bed we'll go into more detail in the future I me I mean if you are having legit
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problems though do consult the faux Hammer video that he's talking about and will no doubt Link in the description
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because it will actually help you through the process 100% more than two guys just being like Oh yeah yeah that's
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a problem okay good question there now one from Tom Finch who asks best
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software for modeling and for printing also the Best Budget Printers and curing stations oh okay let's go bit by bit
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best software for modeling blender is great right everyone talks about blender is it blender right blender is good
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blend yes I've remembered the name of the one that I trying to remember earlier honestly got to be straight I
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don't do modeling but I do speak to modelers and two two people I've spoke
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to who are very well known in the industry and I believe your audience would know them well have recommended
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zbrush which I've never heard of and I'm going to try it out you need like a graphic tablet or a special like claw in
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the air yes to to use this thing actually bringing out a version on iPad later this year so I'm waiting for that
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and I'm going to start having a go from what I've heard is if you artistically inclined and are like a confident
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painter drawer Sketcher and like draw your ideas you'll enjoy Z brush yeah or zbrush if
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you're the US and blender slightly more mathematical like the the processes
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involved are a little bit more like formulaic like there's like Pro like
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yeah draw draw a circle raise Circle by X degrees draw do you mean that sort of
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as opposed to just being like yeah definitely I mean I've I've the only one I've touched and very
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basically is mesh mixer and that is very much that or Google SketchUp is a good one if anyone's heard of that it's not
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Google anymore though is it it's somebody else used to be Google it was brilliant cuz it was free then oh but yeah but thanks Tom and what was the
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second part of Tom's question Best Budget Printers in curing station can I say I've got a video on that for
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prepared to drop a mark fine um the problem is you don't want me to lie to people but I do have a video on that the
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best budget I would stick with something like an Elum Mar Alig Mar y I do so I've
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got a boring video that walks you through if you've got1 get this if you got so there's a cheaper one which is
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the GTE alcade it's it's a $99 printer but for another like I think it's $30
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you can get a Mars 3 or a Mars 3 Pro which is significantly better in terms of build
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quality as a printer from a more well-known reliable brand like elu and you get things like a screen protector a
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carbon filter that's buil built into it to get rid of some smells and that's about $130 $130 is curing stations
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curing stations just get the cheapest one you can get how many people keep saying you should do more curing Station reviews and I'm like one they're boring
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cuz they all do the same thing they're basically microwaves they are microwaves with LED lights in now my first one was
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an empty paint tin with a UV uh LED strip in it and you know one
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of them one of those solar uh spinny things and that worked and that cost me less than £10 yeah I think Steve
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actually has before he got his curing station he had a really useful box he
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like sprayed the outside so it was and then just stuck LED things inside was it Steve or somethingone else anyway but
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you do that for like if you're de yellowing plastic cheap option that it works I have a followup for the um best
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budget printer idea as well just a point in that generally if you're new to
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things you will find most advice and like a lot of user based information and
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useful advice on products that a lot of people own so rather than going for
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rather than going for you know you'll be able to find if you go for something like an aligo Mars there are thousands
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of people who will be looking for the same information you are looking for so there'll be so much information on like
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certain types of resin working in certain things you know you'll find someone who is in Germany who has this kind of humidity and
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temperature in their room who is trying to use this red and within Mars you'll find that person and you can just copy their settings which is 100 no 100% that
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you you cannot disvalue how useful the community is like either either join a
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Reddit group for your printer or brand join a Facebook group and you'll have no end of support there yes but yeah
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definitely that you b d one can only imagine what that stands for asks how
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easy is it to design your own stuff and what types of things would be recommended to make SL avoid it's
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incredibly hard guy incredibly hard to make your own stuff yes in what way like
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models sculpting iume we're back to sort of sculpting I feel like it's a creative
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Endeavor isn't it so it's like learning a new skill in exactly the same way as if you've never ever drawn with charcoal
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before you can do it and you can start doing it straight away but your results aren't necessarily going to be good it's
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the same as it's the same as trying to use a 3D modeling program there are some people out there who are Naturals who
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are just I am so jealous of yeah or they have affinities with similar programs
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and similar things and it kind of feels a bit like they're a bit more at home but just jump in like what's the worst
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that can happen yeah you you don't have fun stop doing it best case scenario you love it and
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you want to spend more time on it and you end up being pretty good at it win-win you know he's got the better answer this is why it should be you
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asking you these questions right well you finished the first page actually the second page is much shorter woohoo um so
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question 1 2 3 4 5 six left oo tamson and Mark hello they ask how much faf is
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it uh do you need to mess with settings just when you start out or every time
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you print how important is it to keep everything at a consistent temperature how often do parts of the printer break
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or need to replacing and what else do you need on top of the printer let's go
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bit by bit brilliant how much faf is it I think can we come back to that yes we'll answer that we'll answer this in a
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round about way through the other questions so you need to set it up for your printer your environment so
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temperature your chosen layer height which is the Taste and the resin you've chosen yes so unless if you get a bundle
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with the printer it's normally that Brand's thingy you might get some basic settings but that's not going to necessarily work in your printing
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environment which may be hotter colder more humid the humidity doesn't matter as much but still so but you only need
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to do that once unless one of those variables changes you need to do it again so if the temperature goes up you
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might want to drop your exposure time down if it goes down you might want to increase it yeah there's like machine maintenance as well like leveling it
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goes off yeah most a lot of modern printers stay leveled but some of them like we said earlier with the elus do
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unlevel themselves but you can pretty much now set them up and they just go and you're happy with it when you have a
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problem again join a community and as say this has gone wrong and you might need to tweak it occasionally but most
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can just print and print how important is it to keep everything at a consistent temperature consistent temperature is
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the most important you it's not about keeping it hot keeping it cold you can still print it cold but you'll be
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overexposing a bit more so you'll lose a little bit of detail but you can still print up to and around about 5° celius
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that cuz like the resin viscosity changes so and it's just its reactiveness to the UV like any chemical
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reaction heat is a catalyst when you start to remove that you get different results okay how often dep parts of the
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printer break and or need replacing any mechanical object can break so any mechanical part can break at any time
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that's just look you can do it through the post the most common one is the LCD screen which they're actually a
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consumable part rated for 2,000 hours of printing and that's on time so it's not
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like this print took me 10 hours actually you're only printing for maybe 5 to 7% of that full sequence cuz the
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rest of the time it's lifting and lower so yeah 2,000 hours of screen on time which is incred
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amount printing oh it's a good amount you're G through thousands of pounds of resin to get to that point 90% of people
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would replace their printer before the screen yeah okay what else do you need on top of the printer depending on your
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resin so if you've got water washable then nothing really if you've got a a different resin then then you need to
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use things like ice propol or odess methalated spirits to clean it so you need that that's expensive you definitely need gloves lots of gloves
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you get three or four sets with your printer that'll last you two prints uh maybe one I definitely you get a
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cleaning mat I definitely get a pickle jar a large pickle jar for cleaning and that's enough but then from there you
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can go on to everything else after that it's really just about making your life easier so you start with these Basics
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and everyone does start with the basics unless you've got the money to go elsewhere and then just build from there with a proper dedicated wash and cure
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station areas to work in it and that sort of thing so it's a lot so at the end of that at the end of that quite
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large list and talking about how we come back to much
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it yes it's quite fuffy is it how have you found it like this is one thing I wanted to leave at the end of the
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interview but this is the bit where I'm going to flip it upside down so obviously I I love 3D printing it it's
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become not so much a second hobby but it enables me to paint more in different things um people talk about like oh it
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versus Warhammer but to me I don't even consider them the same thing anymore I've become now distracted by other
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models rather than oh I want to get Warhammer cheap I'm so deep into that you as somebody who's tried it before um
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who was like nah it's not for me and and if I'm right you set fire to the the printer and like was that different
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Channel exploded it right okay um so yeah so what your thoughts now that
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you've been through an easier process on the faf of 3D printing in a household
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there are like several factors to consider I'm not 100% sure of the uh
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like long-term Health consequence of like being around resin and flated Spirit uh kind of in open containers
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while you're doing stuff we stop printing and stop cleaning and stopped everything about 4 hours ago and the air
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quality meter is still maxed out there's risks I mean I'm not going to absolutely
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change what I do based around 3D printing it's a nice tool to have but it's a tool in your hobby Arsenal and I
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would still prefer I think to buy a production item that is great and I know
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how to deal with already because I've been in the harby for 30 years y than
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kind of mess around with the thing that I'm clearly still not a brilliant at and and potentially like poison myself do
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you know what I mean I'm going to keep it and I'm going to still use it from time to time but I'm not going to just
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start it's not going to replace anything yeah you're not going to be like guy is now a converted this is a 3D printing
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Channel no but it's useful to have a tool in the same way that have an airbrush but I rarely use it yeah do you
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know what I mean yeah exactly that and and the airbrush has Health consequences as well because you're particula or
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optimizing paint into the air and that you are going to breathe it whether or not you wear a mask or not there is that
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and this is things this is the decision people need to make for themselves I think and you're right and I'm glad you brought that up because it's something I
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I've avoided giving people the answer CU I don't know the answer as we talked about earlier but it is like these are
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things where people need to watch this and go right okay I need I'm not playing this is not a toy yes this is not
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something to play very much not um it's not it's not an over oh my god I've got to be scared of this because the
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approach to actually achieve what you want to achieve is easier than most people now realize it is actually a lot
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more plug and play but yeah it's a the ease of use is certainly much easier now
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than it was when I tried for the first time but say for example if I was doing this in a I was going to say in a Prof
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environment if I was doing this uh like in a factory you know like for my job
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manufacturing stuff you'd want to be trained I would want a lot of training on how to use this and like supervisors
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making sure I wasn't messing up and like doing things that will potentially kill me further down the line and you just
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don't get that like who's providing that you with YouTube videos what I exactly
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no you're not putting that on me anybody anybody can buy these things and start
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in them without a care in the world you know that kind of joke and there's some pretty serious things involved for
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people out there looking to do this like we we talked about Flats earlier we're saying this with the knowledge that we
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don't know we don't know if this could or could be hurting people pets kids or anything it might be nothing it might be
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nothing we don't know but what we don't neither of us want to do is harm anybody at any point in their life through
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advice or I don't want to harm anyone through advice we're given out so for safety if you are doing it in your house
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put it in in some the places that you live put it in a sealed unit and then vent it outside from that unit or put it
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in your garage put it in your shed put it somewhere where that's not a livable livable place ideally yes yeah and
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that's it nice what are you going to give me on that one 10 I gave you a 10 already as you were talking oh brilliant kids survivalist asks on a resin
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printer if you're printing things like tank barrels or sticky out bits like Spears or Pikes is it best to use
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supports or make the Cure time longer so if you increase the Cure time it essentially it hardens the the material
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a bit more let's say this is our tank so here's our Barrel yeah that's
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right so this would be your is it turret yes yep so your turret sticks off so
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what you would want to do I'm going to hold that like that there's my plate and it's printing like this and it's doing
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that so if that's not supported every time you lift that's going to pull no matter how cured it is it's going to be
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a problem so you definitely want to support it more than increasing the the
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exposure time increasing the exposure time doesn't necessarily lead to better models it will overcure and bloat models
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in with many of its details so good supports is the key okay that's a 10 out of 10 oun nice and quick didn't
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reference a video well done um Tom a says for people that don't want their
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own 3D printers but want to own cool models small creators design what are
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the best places they could send files to be printed I think if you are a small Creator the one I'd recommend and this is a plug for someone else is my
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minifactory if you are a Creator get your model and you're doing minis get your models on my minifactory earn some
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money from them um unless you want to keep them to yourself but they also offer printing services you suggested
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some play cuz I couldn't think of any cuz I print myself I've I've seen people advertising on Fiverr yeah just
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advertising Print Service they're not necessarily the cheapest because they have to go through quite a process to get your model to you and you might only
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want one of a thing and you know if they were to make loads the you know their kind of investment of time to what
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they're charging would be better for them so whatever but if you want like one particular thing or a couple of little things Fiverr is actually a
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pretty good yeah yeah Independence basically any yeah any any Independence get it's not a company you're
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essentially just like reaching out to someone like you was like yeah I'll print that for you and put it in the box and send it to you for you know however
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much money cool I'll give you uh seven for that I mean it's okay could do five let's can we have five each no no oh
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Ralph hod my channel like Ralph Hodge asks I've heard time
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and time again that 3D printing becomes a hobby of its own uh which option resin or filament is
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better choice for someone who doesn't want 3D printing to steal too much time from their mini painting SL bling time
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oh wow okay that that's a depends what you want to print is going to be the answer on that yes 3D printing very much
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becomes a hobby on its own would you believe that I actually started my channel as a Warhammer Channel if you go
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back there's me talking about Warhammer things Miniatures painting it's nothing to do with that no genuinely isn't but
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no so if you go back there's like there's me talking about magazines for Warhammer the battle honors report and
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doing painting guides things like that I kind of fell into 3D printing it was quite weird and then yes that role has
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now taken over my hobby life I would very much like to be spending more time sat painting my Warhammer Miniatures
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than I spend covering 3D printers but I also love 3D printers and I love the community that I've built that want to
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know and understand what these devices are cuz I'm fed up with people like 4K is better than 8K and all that stuff
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again that's something my audience will completely understand and relate to but yes it's a massive Hobby in regard to
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how much easier it is right here's the breakdown fdm printing is safer easier
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and generally prints out of the box if you're using basic materials like pla
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but you're not going to get detailed models that's more for practical prints um and you will see lines quite ex a lot
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people who do like basically just terrain use FTM because it's kind of it does the job and it great for terrain
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yeah it's fine if you are happy with the quality level of something where you will clearly see layer lines it's fine
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if you want visual props on the surface it's great you can even get colar prints now in fdm which is really cool um I did
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some Terrain in color for um for titanica scale and uh War Machine and stuff like that resin printing will give
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you a lot more detail in Miniatures that's a lot easier to get into once you've got your settings Dar in it's
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dead easy but it's messy it's very messy and as we discussed it's a faf so it's
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what do you want do you want detailed Minis and a faf or do you want easy works out of the box but not as
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detailed I think a lot of what it might boil down to with a lot of these questions as well if people have pets
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and kids in their house as I do I think a lot of people are going to want to prefer fdm over because the the like the
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poisoning Factor isn't there yeah not not so much I mean I think it does still give off some voccs sure but like you
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know if you're pla no not that no the funny thing though just to clarify I'm
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maybe you've already seen my video on this and you know what I'm going to say next but the resin didn't really kick
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out much voc's no the air quality didn't really change at all when we were
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prepping the resin when it was printing doing anything like that the the thing that made it go absolutely nuts with was
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putting the metalated spirit in the the ultrasonic clear yeah it's bad stuff who would have thought who would have thought yeah so yeah a lot of people
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like hang on the stuff that the stuff that's made for cleaning is bad for you yeah don't drink bleach kids not
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supposed to clean your lungs um okay I'll give you an eight for that well done Tran valores asks I assume resin
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printing is better for fine detail assuming high quality printer but what's capable on a standard fdm we kind of
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just asked that but what's the best you've seen an fdm so I have actually and this is not dialed in I did actually
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do a not a review but like just like an explorational explorational is that a
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word explorative exploratory I did an exploratory video recently with the
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bamboo X1 which was is considered by many to be like the top fdm printer at
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the moment um for accessibility and various reasons and I swapped that down to a 0 2 mm nozzle and printed
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Miniatures on it now it's difficult with Miniatures because the supports are totally different but a guy called
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Duncan Shadow actually sculpted some supportless Miniatures like built in such a way where there's like no 45
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degree overhangs they look gorgeous Absolut they're not resin quality but they're close but I haven't died that in
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I actually refer back to a guy called uh we talked about earlier Danny um the miniature painting DM I think he went by
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um who I miss like his his content was incredible um and I loved his stuff and
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he actually did a lot more like dialing it down and people have took these nozzles dialed it down really good so
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I'll be doing more content on that in the future but um yeah check that out like I'll put in fact whilst we're
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talking about this I'll put some examples up on screen it's like souping up a car right it's like you can do all
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of these tiny tiny tweaks to it to get marginally incrementally finer detail
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exactly that personally for me I prefer to just buy the fast car yeah but there's nothing right now within the
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Realms of consumer purchases that is like exceptional fdm print quality not out the box not comparable to Miniatures
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but you can get close you can you can get pretty close with some caveats okay
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so but again I'll throw that up on screen everyone will be able to see what I've been able to achieve now it's a
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solid seven well done solid seven it's a crap Mark but it's clearly crap solid in
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the good Zone Simon fing I don't have the space for a printer myself so I rely on others to print for me a number of
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the fin and more spindly resin models have gotten are extremely brittle and prone to shattering I'd like to hear
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about the different more flexible resins and whether they come with a tradeoff in print quality or are they more expensive
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right well in terms of like flexible resins if he's got people printing Miniatures for him then I kind of no I'm
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not going again um but no he's he's completely right and a lot of people go
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for a couple of different approaches with resins now people will go for cheaper resins like your if anything
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says standard resin on it it normally means cheap brittle and and hard what's really amusing I find so many people who
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watch my videos will be like um talking about the qualities of like 8K versus 4K and 12K and 14k and then you look at the
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common resins that people use and they they are the cheap ones and you won't render that detail anyway even with
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softer resins general rule of thumb if something is higher detail cuz it's got more chalkiness in it like I don't know
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how to make resins I literally get people to make it for me and I say I don't like that make it better your
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harder resins your more brittle resin or your more brittle resin so they're the more higher detailed one cuz they've got
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just more chalky pigmen in them and then your softer more flexible resins are
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generally your less detailed one what people tend to do like I said before is is two approaches find a resin that
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they're just happy with that's that got that balance for them I say I've released one specifically for the
47:45
Miniatures crowd that I think is the right balance but then there's people who will take like a really high detail
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resin like surch fast or uh Frozen a resin which are two really high detail
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resins elu uh space gray is another one up there at that top tier for detail and
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mix in a bit of um cacious which is very bendy and flexible and shake that round
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and doing that will allow you to do it to your personal taste but obviously as Simon says he's getting other people to
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print for him then um he's going to have to then talk them into buying the different resins send them the link to
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this video in this question there you go then they can buy war game I'm going to add a question go on then from me to you
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in terms of percentages of likelihood so like 1% is just not going to happen 100%
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is for show for show what is the likelihood that within 10 years Games
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Workshop will release a their own model of 3D printer with their
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own blend of resin and start selling out of production minis hatties shaking doing
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big head shakes from behind the camera a what what do I think percentage
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chance higher than zero less than 1% like and we are don't forget we are
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talking about a company I'll have to get a picture up on screen we're talking about a company that
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released a plastic tube and an airbrush and cans of spray air so it's not so the
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fact that that existed proves that it's not impossible I don't think that that's their approach I don't think that'll
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ever be their approach they would be better off in my opinion as a company taking the Apple approach to music and
49:30
creating their own licensable storefront where people can buy Community designed
49:37
stls that burn after use it's as possible as like DRM is it DRM music
49:43
music with Dr yeah it's as possible as that and nobody ever pirated exactly so you cannot get music
49:50
anymore now that isn't protected so yeah no it's not a thing but again it's a community thing isn't it like it's a
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topic I wanted to slightly approach anyway cuz I don't want to do the 3D printing versus games at Workshop
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directly because 3D printed models a lot of the time no offense to the creators
50:08
when you look at them on the table do kind of look like the the knockoff versions of the official ones there's
50:13
some great Parts out there and for customization definitely good but if you get like what's it I don't know gloomy
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Angels then they will look like a cheaper version of the official thing
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sure we are in a community where people will protect each other and I think there are people out there who would buy
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it and potentially share it with friends um but these are Community Driven so Games Workshop would control it in this
50:38
instance and it' be for you know they wouldn't release models it it'd be like for custom shoulder pads and that sort
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of thing sure I I would rather see Games Workshop go back to supporting the creators like people people out there
50:50
will have an attitude of oh I don't mind taking from the corporation yeah sure but if they knew that Darren lean
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sculpted it would they steal from Darren is the problem is the problem with dehumanizing uh you know corporations
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isn't it there are real people involved and they're really talented and skilled and you just don't know their names no
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just a shame it is a shame it's a massive shame but yeah that's a whole different topic for a whole different
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video we'll see you next time um CH we say bye-bye shake hands
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should we do that say get out my house get out of my house now I don't know why
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keep I don't know why wasted busted
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