The UK Games Expo, where was Warhammer?

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hello I'm Jeff and I'm Ross hello I'm
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Nick is that like Superstore where Amy changes the name every episode you just going with a different one no This was
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um well we were at Expo um and I wondered in and it's oh New Angle who
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this um amazing we're trying something new the same room oh
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yeah um know I could do no yeah you could do it now we need to
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do is get a tube and we could actually introduce him like James Bond yes wait wait wait wait wait I don't know if
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it'll work on the depth of field it's
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too yeah we'll cut one out but yeah Nick go on oh uh we we're at UK games Expo uh
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I was there on Saturday uh with my girlfriend and we walked in and someone
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tapped me on the shoulder and went hey Nick and I I looked at them and and and and I came to realize you know short
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people glasses beard we must all look the same it turns out you do cuz I
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caught up with that guy later and I texted you on it someone came up to me and Ted me cuz we went uh for a night
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out on the Saturday and uh someone came up and I went I I I tapped Patrick on the shoulder Nick earlier and it's
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because I know a guy in London called Nick who looks just like him and in the
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moment because of all the crowds my brain just froze and went Nick cuz I know
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youres so I'm uh I'm Nick for this episode well it's quite funny cuz also when you're there as well you were real
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like quite quite tall fat beards and men with glasses is also a thing as well if you're if you're going to be
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Nick and I be Steve so I'm I'm going to come out with this one straight away because I said I'd mention it so um I'd
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said before on my channel like turn up and you get a little I don't know if I put one here a little Ross Marine like
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not Marine no battle Brother battle brother um one of these uh figures and
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uh my minifactory nicely printed me 250 to give away yeah so and I've still got
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247 left so you I was going to say you made that same joke when I saw you on
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Saturday and you said it was 242 so people actually it's all a lie yeah I've
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actually got 256 cuz people who yeah people were just giving them to me they scanned them printed them went these say
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gave me both of them these are so bad I'm giving them back but no I've genuinely I've got about 20 something left which is really good I was giving
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them out like sweets one person in a group would come up and go hi I know you and I was like four people there you go there's seven so like you've got spares
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so thanks thanks for that but yeah um some guy some guy went up to Steve Smith another YouTuber um Steve Smith runs
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little plastic people um he's a golden demon winner really good guy where we friends I I've got one of his stickers
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on my uh brilliant cabinet now yeah I've I think I've got one here cuz I I went around I was sticking people's stickers
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on my on my badge he's yeah really good guy really nice guy we got on a few cons
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ago and I'm walking through the day and I just get this random text from Steve going um this guy's just come up to me
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asking me for a uh one of your models cuz he thinks I'm you and if you've seen
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me and you've seen Steve hopefully we can get a photo up of him send me this you got a selfie with him right I did
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yeah so send it send it to me and uh yeah like I look like I look like Steve's dad like there's that much
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between us you know we're again hair beard glasses but I have about 20 years
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on me it's all the resin fumes but Liam uh who who came up thank you um for that
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amusing little anecdote it was it was really nice for Steve to be recognized as me but they I gave him cuz I had pin
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badges as well that I was giving out 3D printed and Steve then wore a faux Hammer pin badge for the rest of the the
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event it was fantastic but good times are you done with that yet I've done that bit on the bottom and
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now I've put the fish where they're meant to be and now I'm trying to figure
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out now that should now do something because I put all the fish where they meant to be to that little symbol well
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if it hasn't then you haven't done it right for only listeners uh Jeff is
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playing with an what looks like an MDF puzzle Cube yeah and um he's going to do
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a Greg Davis and throw it on the floor please don't that cost 40 quid [ __ ] you in your wooden toys I can
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go over there I I mean they look fun I feel like I would you know what it actually to be
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fair is is uh is something I would I would I I looked at the berad a bit of
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an intake of breath um um but at the price them but to be fair haven't played
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with that for about half an hour now there is it just quite quite a cool thing to be fair yeah I do still want to
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throw it at a wall but it's it's it's a very like what's what's in there like some sweets or something I don't know if
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there's anything in it I think you can put something in it I think you just meant to open it but I I should have asked that I should like of all the
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things I just want to get through the puzzle but I've been on one now for 3 hours you know when you open that and
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then actually then you just end up in hell like the Box no want to blame but yourself Cube
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It's a warp gate it is it is but I thought they were cool they really are I saw them last year this company called
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adventur so I went with my family on the Friday I took my wife and uh and my kids and it was really good um and I was like
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I just want to see what they think is good out of this event cuz I just went looking for Warhammer yeah and I'm still
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looking we'll get to that yeah we need to talk about this Hall in front of us first yeah exactly so this is yeah this
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is my hobby Hall so there's a few bits so these were good but my my both my daughter and my wife were just glued to
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these they're basically like an escape room in in some kind of laser MDF box
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but there were six of them and I was like I'm having all of them and he he the guy did me a good deal I didn't go up going I'm an influencer do this I
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never said they were going to be on a show um or anything like that I just I want them because I think they're fantastic but it's it's ID Venture as
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the company um and they've got another one coming soon this is sound like an ad now isn't it but yeah they've got
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another one coming soon but they are Escape rooms in a box and I took one home which is Sherlock's camera didn't
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realize that that was the hardest one of the six um and I went back to him the next day cuz I went home on the Friday night and
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I went back the next day going I've got this far and he was like yeah you're nearly halfway I've be like I've been on that three hours and I'm doing it nearly
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half I'm nearly halfway so the value is there yeah and and I'm having F it's nice to have something physical again
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it's one of those uh um you know I guess the the designing it and everything I
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mean I don't know how many pounds worth of MDF is there I will imagine it not 40
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um and so on and so forth but get loads of enjoyment from it especially if you're especially like yourself if
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you're you're you've got a family it just gets passed on to the next person doesn't it so is there instructions on
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how to build it again no yeah yeah so you can reset them and so so my wife got
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through one of them whilst I was at the com for the next two days yeah so two days she's she's been playing with it
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and she said it was harder to put it back together than it was to think it I think once you've done it it's fine but
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yeah we're like I'll do this one but I'm not telling you what I did and you can get hints online as well oh okay but but
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she struggled like she's a little more like I'm I'm a mini hobbyist and a painter so I'm quite you know I've got
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my soft delicate hands and my wife's quite heavy-handed always has been so when you get it you get a little stand
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with it she broke the stand putting that together so it was like maybe these aren't for you um but no she she
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absolutely loved it so she's done one my daughter's halfway through hers and then
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there's a few more so I brought two here just to show them off and I thought yeah it'd be quite cool people will get a
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kick out of them so if you see them at another show they'll they'll be at e e Essen I I forg I put my will be yes they
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are aren't they the lad was saying he's just he's half an hour up the road so he's like why would I miss it yeah fair enough yeah absolutely but yeah
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absolutely BR so that was that there goes they were y it's very cool um I picked this I don't even know what this
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is my daughter picked it up cuz like me she's attracted to rainbows I saw them demoing it yeah on a massive big board
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yeah they had they had a massive big board of it which I seen was like you know literally like on a like a a like
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like a um you know I know what you like a whiteboard a white a whiteboard on Wheels they had a massive version of it
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yeah like six foot by 4 foot sort of size so I did stop and look at I thought I can't you know when you look at
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something I can't even begin to understand what that is and how it works as a game but I was intrigued by it so
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that's cool it's just it's it looks like it's just a big board of colors and you move like a square over a group of
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colors then you have to read out a clue and someone else has to guess which of the colors it is or something and then
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someone went that's what I believe it is but yeah I got that as well cuz my daughter really loved it I'm just like
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oh rainbows I like rainbows yeah it's pretty so visual and then then the best one which I told you to go there
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straight away yes I did speak to my children about that but anyway my children went to it and then it was too
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busy they walked away went back it was too busy walked away went back and it was gone yeah so what's this free gunam
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oh cool so yeah if you went to the Wayland Booth um they were promoting all their
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Gundams and then in order to do it you just you walk up you build a a gunam it's not like I don't even think it's a
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like a there's like I don't know the grades but there's there's something there's h no there's HD Master the
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lowest then Master Grade then real grade then perfect grade but this doesn't have a grade so I think this is one lower and
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but it's still a have to study for that one no exactly but yeah I did it in it's cool it's still iconic isn't it it's a
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really iconic little kit but yeah it it pops off like it no stick like just pops off the sprew goes together so Warhammer
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if you're watching and we've mentioned this on the heroes yeah we did yeah they've popped off so more of this cuz
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it was so fun to build I wonder if like could say with the Gundams they're quite
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they're quite boxy aren't they like does that do you think that helps with the
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with the push fit whereas Workshop they have a lot of like cylindrical shapes or more natural shapes and all that sort of
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stuff I wonder well I've not built one of them but I have built a um face do the Stormtrooper and as you can imagine
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there's a lot of CES on that it works in the same sort of design and um that was
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a you were it was you weren't pushing any of that else you did have to you have to have clippers on the knife you
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know yeah but um but again a really really nice kick cuz the the design of the helmet was like you know like on
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Stone TR helmet have that black line well you sort of you built this
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midsection which was just black and then you started adding all the plates to it yeah for the colors for the white
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section you know on the on the first order the helmet it's like a black thing and then the armor plate sit over it
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where was the old of helmet was a white thing with this was clever cuz then when
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you come to put the head on the the Dome of the head was one piece yeah and it clipped in and when it did it then left
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the black exposed and then the next plate came up to the black and left that the exposed that way and it was really
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really really cleverly designed how big was that oh it's um it's sort of the size of a of a black series sort of
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Hasbro Star Wars figure so like the 6 in size and it comes with um comes with the
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uh whatever their variant of the their their laser gun is but it also came with the shield and the bat from the
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character that was in who fights Finn and the force awak came with that the riot shield as well the guy who gets oh
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know finnn is the guy who gets the breed down his face yeah it was really co building it was really I took it I took
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it with me once on um on a holiday where we were camping I just sat one evening put it together it was really it was really really cool yeah but they don't
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seem to be um Bandai don't be seem to be supporting them as as much as they are
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they they seem to like cuz I thought oh might buy another one on the um they just go for Mega Money on eBay they Star
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Wars is a Bandai then yeah oh brilliant yeah yeah some they come in and out of they sort of come in and out of
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um they they build some they make some for a while and then they go and then they would they introduce something else but they don't seem to hold on to one
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design for very long than the Star Wars range it's not just them like so I was saying before like me and Mike so so
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obviously whan did this to promote hey Gundam it's fun it's cool they're really running the gamn thing aren't they wait
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oh yeah I think it's coming back though yeah yeah I think cuz we obviously did a video with them before Christmas yeah um
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and that was to promote that they're sort of Distributing everything yeah in the UK now like you can get
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things in the UK but I think like from specialist shops and all that sort of stuff so I think they're quite like a
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mainstream supplier of it now yeah it's quite smart like it's it's just I think the thing is like yes you can go on to
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paint it and do that but they're fun to build like and that's saying something isn't it it's like like uh it's the
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experience of building it and it's very much in in like I guess like Games
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Workshop Style you know making a comparison there it would be like painting the interior of a rhino and
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then gluing it all shut yeah like you know it's there but no one's ever going to see it and when you get up to like
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some of those higher grades like you you build an exoskeleton and then you put
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like some more bits on it and then you put the outer armor on and you never see what's underneath but you know it has an
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exoskeleton in it you're like cool the bit that Wows me is like and this this threw me like my first real grade um
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was and and I painted it up and I thought I was being really cool and edgy I'm this going to get us cancelled and I
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thought it got me canceled from a Facebook group so I I took a gunam spray painted it blue with white on it put
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ultramarines logos on it shortened the gun painted it red got some bits from other model kits like um the the winged
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skull from the Rhino kit cut half of it off and put that on the gun and I posted it in like the Games Workshop for
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grown-ups group or something like that and got canceled out of it cuz it wasn't a Warhammer product you got banned so
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that was phase we had two years it was a good run thanks for everyone that's follows us on the patreons thank you
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very much you're not allowed to cross the stream I thought it' be a good collaboration but no nobody liked that
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so I was like I just I just took my head in the sand and yeah so the brought it
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up now and canel your Channel with it they are brilliant but the bit that blew me away was I took a piece off the sprew
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and then I looked at it so it the number and the thing was right right that's one thing Bandai do that that Warhammer struggle with is numbering the right
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pieces yes um and you have a g we all know it's true no we all know it's true
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like I've built I mean you guys can see it no one else can like the massive pile of boxes of all the Orcs that I've been
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building recently for a project and the amount of um
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misnumbered Parts I think the the ones I enjoyed building the least were actually
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the the Commandos from Kill team yeah they're good min they're fantastic Miniatures but usually
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like you know things are kind of grouped together aren't they like oh this orc is generally here that one's generally in a
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corner normally the Commandos are just all over like three different spr yeah
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what else is like oh I built something little not long go the um the out Riders are like that as well aren't they like I
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know it's not three massively different spru but it's like the still i' be so good if you just it's been really
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interesting oh you spend you spend more time looking for the parts than it takes you to build oh that's maybe it's a Kil
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te thing who knows what what really tickled me we'll get back to Expo in a minute uh it was interesting building
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older some older spru um and older models and stuff like that so obviously
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it you modern day spru I don't know when they changed it they had the little tab with the number on so you're like this
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one is obviously 45 yeah and then you have the older numbered ones where they
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don't have that little Tab and they just put it on the sprew but then sometimes the the the sort of feed lines cover the
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number but then also you're like is that 145 or is that 145 or is that 145 and
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then quite a few like the the battle wagon or quite a few the older vehicles like the truck they're just not numbered
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and they have new instructions but they just go get this bit um Oh you mean like they're like the '90s and early 2000s
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aren they so building the truck was fine cuz it's quite it was only on one like one sprew yeah um but I got a battle
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wagon and I I took some stuff home yesterday to build it I was like oh you know open the garden uh open the Garden
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open the doors to the garden and just you know birds are tweeting stick the fountain on it sound really really fancy
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but the lady that we bought the house house off just couldn't be asked to move it because it weighs a ton it looks
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terrible but eventually he he moves his his table and chairs down to the croquet Lord and C yeah just I like to I just like to
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hear the knock of the of the play yeah yeah I uh I I just wanted down to the
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coal mine that I own because I like I like to hear the sound of peasants
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having their lives shortened at my expense um no nothing brighten my quite
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like the sound of the cough of bronchitis yeah yeah consumption yeah
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just suppressing the working class oh it's delightful um yeah so uh yeah I
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built like loads of I built a set of boys and some beast snaggers and um the Squig Squig Hogs and was having a wh of
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a time and I was like oh get this battle wagon open and I think it's like three or four spru it's pretty beefy cuz
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there's loads of different bits and it was just like no numbers I was like pack it back up put it down add a glass of
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wine instead yeah bless J any points you builts cuz this is for a future video isn't it yeah I have no idea how many
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points that I've built I'm going to get the viewer of part one of this video to figure it out
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bril but yeah no it's like it already looks like a hall it's terrifying me so good good luck finishing that yeah there
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a lot of it there is but yeah like the the the thing I was saying about the Gundam though is like so I I took a
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piece off and I'm like this looks nothing like what it does so I had this long straight bit that I pulled off the
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sprew and but in the in the book it was like no this is an l-shape and I was there like this is wrong and I looked
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everywhere and I spent a good hour looking for where this L-shaped part was cuz they'd obviously misnumbered it at
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least that's what i' been conditioned to expect from other brands um um and then
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it it I don't know how I even figured it out but on the sprew this part was movable like it
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could actually twist because welcome to gundam how and it turns out they do like
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cuz they do multicolor injection so they'll actually inject one side let that set and then apply something else
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then inject another side so they've actually got a ball joint within a part that's on this wow it's incredible there
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then that one that we have there that's got moving fingers yeah that sort of thing well all that's all one part like
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there's some good hand on a spr some good videos online of of how they do it
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and I think like Adam Savage from like MythBusters but he has YouTube channel now like tested yeah um and I think he
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went behind the scenes at how they do it and and it like you see the Games Workshop ones being made or like air fix
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and it's just like two metal plates squish sprew falls out whereas this one it's like loads of different ones coming
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in and into locking and they use sometimes you'll have the same color of plastic that's on an articulated joint
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so apparently they have slightly different Plastics like are different
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temperatures so one will be cooler a bit quicker and this kind of thing and like it's just ingenious it is that's why I
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keep referencing back to like the Space Marine heroes are such different spru more much more like Bandai and obviously
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they launched in Japan then came over to like West have the little corner tabs don't with the numbers on
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them it is more like that and I'm wondering like work will never go that way but you say Workshop will never go
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that way but so who's who's done them who's made them well I would say considering the fact that they launch in
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Japan probably could be Bandai so who's made who's made what sorry so the Space
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Heroes are nothing like any other Warhammer sprew they're a completely different also the main thing that you
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immediately spot with regards of differences the sprew is that the sprew frame is cylindrical exactly that's yeah
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that's it I I I still think it would be Workshop that would make that yeah they
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may but they may be making it for how the Japanese audience the the Japanese
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consumer just just so I've got props to show like these they they're so very
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different maybe yeah maybe they've done it different for for the the market that they sell on to initially with them yeah
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it is that is more of like anev te it's a gateway drug to uh to Warhammer isn't
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it whatever they're doing though I'm I'm loving it I wish they went this way to pop off it's more accessible yes
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definitely I better if you open that I bet if you open the scw in that box and these will look more like Workshop will
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never do I I always say when Workshop will never go that way would be like the articulation and you can oh yeah yeah
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all that sort of stuff imagine a crossover though like is that something no I don't mean like IM like what I did
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but imagine marace Mar build kit that would be amazing can see yeah the whole thing
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is designed it's literally if this was the so frighteningly close actually that you
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start to go Ang on and are they from the same Factory they really really similar but you at the very least if these have
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been made in the UK for the Japanese Market see if they're the same color they're not for the Japanese market then
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it's they've done a good job so um we've got dark tide as well let's have a look at the spruce for that and then maybe
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it's a game thing it's it's from so these models are from the Space Marine
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Heroes Japan collection not the game so before that they did three like blind
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box releases do you remember them like where it was like you can buy a but over here we we such collectors we're like we
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want them all um but yeah so when they released them over here it was like if you buy the Box you are guaranteed to
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get one of each model an extra oh yeah yeah yeah yeah um but the first one wasn't like that season two was and then
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they did so I think they did uh first born then they did Terminators then they did death guard death guard and I have
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they done another one dark dark normal and then they did and then they did the
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other one didn't he which was uh the one which now counts as like a kill team which is you buy um they've got one
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which was all is all primaris Yes it comes with rules so you can play it as a kill team yes that's the one I don't
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think I've got that one really to lay your hands on hold that one oh yeah they announced it and then yeah and then
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basically went yeah you can't have I got the I got the blood angels um in the previous one and then like all the
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market it's quite funny cuz all the marketing is primaris Marines on the front yeah uh but then they're all firstborn oh really oh yeah cuz the new
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one's got like gravis armor in it it's gravis armor gu it's got um a fobos sniper it's it's like a mixture of
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everything that's other than armors from the new there was a bit of a drama around that as well wasn't there there was do Captain for it as well I think
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it's exclusive for yeah probably but like it was one of them where I think that did upset a lot of people because I don't think they sold it through games
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what I don't know no they didn't didn't they go through only through like like game or something or something I don't
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know what it was but yeah there was an uproar that like it it's out and like great where do we get it and own like it
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was one of them you had the influencers again who were why didn't I get it
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anyway but you had the influence yeah cuz I really wanted it but yeah the um you had all the influen going hey this
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is out and everyone's like great where do we get it not even you're out of stock where is it and and yeah it's hard
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to get a hold of but that I like these blind box little mini they're dire armor esque bases so yeah you're right they
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probably won't go that way not the multicolor but I hope they do go this push aart just say on that box in the
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end the one of the because I I get a bit obsessed for thing you know the fomo get me and things I desperately have to go and try and get and in the end I thought
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there's a faux boss sniper in here I thought oh in a different pose I thought great and then I thought but I'm on a
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minute I will end up with more snipers than I can feeli yeah cuz I'll end up like they field them in threes and then I'll end up with seven because I've got
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two Squad well I've got three squads them actually I've got two with rifles and one with the the the L whatever
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they're calling it and then I went and then I'll have another just another one and I so you can't you can't run these
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guys as a squad of like multi not in the 40 not in the not in 40K they only way
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CU a squad they've got Squad rules to use them as a team in Kill Team all right and it's nice the idea going well
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if you wanted just a different sniper for you you know but you know but the the the faos sniper teams are have got
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enough parts to make them a little bit different okay anyway but sh swwa the heads around and things and I was like
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oh really really want them and then I went but I'll end up with actually men a can't field yeah yeah you know swap one
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out yeah and in the end I just thought you know what it'll just play on my OCD too much in the end so I just left it
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yeah yeah I just like the SC it's very r i fight fomo off but I managed it on that occas well done congratulations
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yeah I I it's like we we should start every episode with hi my name's Ross and it's
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been seven nine days since my last Warhammer purchase but where are we
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going after this we're going to warmer [Music] world yeah sorry so yeah won't even last
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longer yeah so but yeah so that that's that but I so I think the whole point was you get a free model and it's meant
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to you know get you to like oh gundam's fun buy them I think that's a very good idea cuz I think like it will probably
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put off like it being so different to 40K like it's a bit of a new experience
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for people and so on and so forth um like I'm not like a an an anime fan
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really I feel like I missed that boat when I was younger but um like building Gams is is great fun just fun it's fun I
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mean I I then spent an hour looking at all the Gundams uh went back the next day to look at all the gun and and I had
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like I was holding boxes of them like I like this one I like this one and in the end I got so overwhelmed and in the
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environment I'm going to put them back and then I was talking to I caught up with Mikey from Hell stor War wargaming
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um great great guy I love that channel um always funny like just no matter what he does you will always laugh with him
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and he was telling me they do even if he's telling you bad news he manages to make it quite exciting but he um he said
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oh I want to get the evangelium one which is another I you won't know it's the anime and I was like oh it does that
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exist and then last night when I got home I was very tired after three days of thinking but I still had to sit and
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go right well my brain is still it within the 24hour period of the con
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closing you broke my gun down nope right but yeah cuz I'm I was still in con mode
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I was like I can keep spending money so I went Googling it and it's hard to get a hold of and because they they again
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like the Star Wars one I think they did a couple of runs and then stopped so I had to go on eBay and I've ordered one
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for 104 quid which was three times the price but I'm like it's either I didn't know these existed it's either usit unit
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one as a gun play and I'm like I've got to I've got to get that I can't wait so
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three days um yeah no I mean like of of looking on the table uh of all the stuff
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that you bought versus all the stuff that Jeff bought um you bought store I
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bought art which is what I bought it was a really really good artist who was on the the flip side of
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element finds at element and he had some really really nice art uh I bought it
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was he uh it was three three pieces for 20 quid which was really good I got uh
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for myself I got a nice uh Boba Fett sketch uh was this like the the the
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black and white Japanese Prince guy or was it no no this was a guy who was drawing oh him is fantastic yeah I got
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Boba from him my youngest got um Spider-Man in full swing given like a
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piece symbol which was really cool but the one that was really good which my eldest boy got was actually a black
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piece of art and only in blue outline was Tom Hardy's face
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roaring it was like screaming and then in red art over the top of it was Venom
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so you could see both at the same time and it was really good and you know he thought that was three for 20 quid I've
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got to be honest he looked at that one he thought he's about to pay 20 quid for on its own yeah yeah cuz I I saw like I
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didn't get anything um when I was there a well I mean I went to El game just
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like the day afterwards to make to make myself feel better um yeah it's like
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I'll just pretend it's Expo but without the cues yeah exactly they were they were just nonstop weren't they they were
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sweating like by 10:00 yeah oh bless him yeah but at one point in time there was
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somebody talk sorry I do apologize at one point in time there was one of the guys was talking about brushes with a customer I felt like want to cover over
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I haven't done it now twice go you go and have a sit down and I'll show you brush yeah yeah but I've got this
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for you it's amazing um yeah like I I made a beine for the element guys when I got there to say hello and then because
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we love Byron and Ed yeah and the other guys I must be honest most of them I don't know but yes they were lovely
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chops yeah um and it was very good and uh yeah so I ended up yeah I did a a big
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coffee run for the element guys because they're all stuck and I know how nice it is when someone does that for you when you're working and Things Blue head um
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so yeah myself and my girlfriend wondering too and it where I met Mikey as well uh bumped into him and he was
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like oh when you grab your coffee we'll have a chat and I was there with nine coffees he was like oh I didn't realize
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how many coffees you had I'll catch up with you later and then I didn't see him again so I'm sad about that I need to mess you my favorite was watching the
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Roman and the uh the whe they were sax and reenactors coming in but coming in
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with coffee it's quite year old Costa yeah yeah um but
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yeah I I I bought everybody coffees and then Ed very kindly said I'll put it on
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a store credit for you um so then I went into onean games
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yesterday and uh he bought lots of paint and spent spent all my monies um I did
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get some more or boys um cuz you haven't got enough yeah yeah well and then I was
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and then I went to Hobbycraft as well um cuz I want to paint lots of Orcs um oh
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and I bought gray primer I wanted some gray primer Val I really like valo primers I used some Monument hobby stuff
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and um like it's still pretty decent but I really get on with the valo stuff I I
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use St res for a bit because everyone reckons it's better and I don't know whether it's ainal res I believe or
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Badger and and I feel like it is better it's a little bit hard a but God it clogs my airbrush like nothing else so
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yeah the the valo stuff's just so much more reliable yeah um then what else did I get Model A I wanted the Big Tub of
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model Air Gold yeah so but they didn't have it oh so I I just got a little
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one and then um I got some more Tamia paints and some oil paints so um you're
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St by you're St by paint now like you know what you're doing looking at looking at the ones
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he's got I watched um a Marco video on next video you'll have a beanie
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on hello guys welcome to the painting p no the only thing I'm going to do is
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paint chromatic black did you did you buy any chromatic black no no cuz you
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make it that's the whole point um yeah so um if you don't watch
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Mar's Channel please do yeah please do um yeah I really want to try how he
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paints Orkin yes um because it looks awesome and all of his speed paints look
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incredible oh edit to the dog hello deci decide you when when you want
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to te up just a whe camera she wants to have a go at um at Marco's painting U orc skin you know what attracted to her
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with her being a Legato Roman Ola was when I did my Italian impression she went oh one Speaking of my mother yes
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yeah I understand the language and the accent um oh that's brilliant wants to fight so um yeah he airbrushes on I
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think um plague bear flesh yeah and then he goes in with a green green gold well he uses green gold like a bit
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later yeah but he he as a shade he uses green ink so I got some I mean I've had
33:44
a terrible run of form with inks um I because I always like they
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reactivate with contrast paint I think uh right so if you use the the white so
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Marco uses the white Titan ium ink yeah and then if you're really heavy with it
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and because of I think it's the heavy pigment in the contrast if you don't leave it like fully overnight to set it
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contrast will reactivated sometimes yeah CU cuz I've had it where contrast paints reactivated it but then I've also had it
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where I've left it for like two days and then I still painted and the white just oh really just rubbed off straight away
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so I assume I'm doing something wrong because like Marco wins golden demons like he knows what he's doing um it's
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it's definitely a me issue um but I'm I'm not very good with inks I'm doing something wrong and I'm not sure what it
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is so crack it so so knowing he's terrible with inks he bought more ink I bought
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more ink yes um no I mean they're all that's a definition of Madness
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yeah well no is it oh what is it the definition of insanity is doing the same thing different results I know where
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you're going with the G I bought uh some Tamia paints because I bloody love tamamo paints and it's a Marco video he
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uses an airbrush it's amazing did you see him paint the lion yes where he's just he's just using an airbrush and it
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all looks like a bit blocky and and really weird and all the colors are all over the place like the ugly phase is
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monumentally ugly and you're like where's this going to go and then you blink and it's incredible yeah it's so
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so monumentally good and he's so and he built it no subassembly police painted
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the majority of it with his airbrush the the the man is just incredible I've tried following his guide I've done he's
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in Dublin and not yeah we should get him over Marco if you're watching get over
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get on the painting phase well have a chat and while you're here teachers out to paint yeah yeah yeah yeah we promise
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not to wear beanies when you turn up or maybe we don't promise maybe don't don't promise don't make a promise we
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definitely won't keep so so yeah I I yeah I bought some Tamia um cuz I love
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these through an airbrush oh yeah do you want do you want no I was having a drink cheeky cheeky oh right yeah yeah I was I was literally I was we'll go back so I
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was doing that but I did say I would drink out of dazza's cup cuz he came over and mentioned when I was there I
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left a cup I think oh well dibs yeah is there
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anything in that no that's like like the way you moved it you like gentle gentle it's heavy I was trying to bee that
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thing for war Plus God I hate when strike I hate it when
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people promote things for money it's just really sad [Laughter]
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it's um yeah yeah I got some Tamia green so I got clear green so I was like oh
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clear green hopefully that like might be like an ink but you can thin these down like nobody's business so I bought just
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some deep green as well cuz maybe that isn't like dark enough or something
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frighteningly professional now is he is I'm also worried that if there was a spark in this studio during the night
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this place would go yeah yeah well the more enamels he's buying the more scared I'm getting this
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I don't leave much here yeah I like yeah I just buy crap that I shouldn't if this
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place bends down I'll remember I left my Rolex here oh yeah yeah yeah yeah took my
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Rolex off and I yeah like to here got a receipt for it yeah so what are the winds are they the oils then yeah so
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there's some wind winds newon oils so my um so uh yeah cuz it's like again so
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it's all with all with an airbrush apart from the oils but he's just airbrushed two colors on for the skin it already looks amazing cuz is Marco um and then
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he just blobs up magenta on like the knees and the mouth and stuff and then black washes it and takes it all off and
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you get like the blend of magenta and black and brown and yeah yeah so I'm I'm
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really Keen to give it a go because it looks I mean he makes it look simple um but
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he's good with that isn't he like he really does show you the steps and the why and the how like a lot of people are
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like you know it's almost what's the old adage you know draw an owl do a circle
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do another oval do a triangle for all the rest of the add some detail just just be Marco frone and there's a few
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like that but Marco does go through step by step and if you I think if you sub to him on his uh patreon or twitch or
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something like that get the full the full thing and cuz he cuts it down for the video so you can actually watch the
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full process and he doesn't shut up either he talks you through everything oh Sensational CU I was thinking I was
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like I might try it out and then um they join his patreon just so I can find that
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that video cuz I don't I'm not going to use his like metallic recipes and stuff
38:50
but I think the orc skin just looks so cool and then he had like he made made up like a very pale flesh color
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um for the Highlight cuz he like you did it you wash it and then he was like for the Highlight it's dead easy um mixed
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like a flashh cutor with a really pale green um just put one line of it and
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then just blended it with with a different brush cuz it's O cuz it's oil yeah cuz it's oils and it looked amazing
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I tried that wait till you get to that stage and and you kind of watch his video and it does look approachable but
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then when you realize how small those pieces Act are in real life you're like
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okay yeah this is going to take practice and and yes this was a reason why I wanted to join his pcture on cuz I was
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like right okay cuz he was like oh just use like a you know a flat like a soft brush yeah so I'm like right I need to
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figure out what the soft brush is um and then also kind of like you know just how
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you go about blending it cuz I'd just go okay and then it would look terrible
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does he have a patreon here high enough where eventually just walks Right comes over yeah maybe maybe yeah so um you press on
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it next thing there's a knock at the door he turns up he might you know what as a fun thing to do like cuz he does classes like seriously I I would if if
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either of you guys wanted to I would pay to go to his class and learn how he does
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like his color and just see it in live in person cuz I think hi again Bella and Marco is one of them where like I'm my
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personal style or or approach to painting I think is kind of very much like yours I don't I'm not scared of an
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airbrush I'll I'll give it a go but I it's very Cult of pain and Marco and
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that sort of really impactful yes like bang for books bang for books you know I
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want speed but I want quality you know for the speed kind of thing um almost commission
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Painter Plus yeah yeah like if you if you made an army I'm going to leave it
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on the dog um yeah if you made an army you go wow awesome but then if you still
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if you pick up an individual model you'd still go that's really good yeah exactly
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like that's the dream I think so when I paint God knows how many points Of Orcs
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obviously like we get noticed by a few people um and I think like i' had a couple of conversations with uh with
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some people that I bumped into and um and Caris my girlfriend was like oh you
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should do a competition with with you and Jeff see who gets noticed the most
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yeah um and then later on in the day she was like oh yeah I was I was chatting
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she was like how many are you on and I was like oh I don't know like I don't know four or five maybe she was like oh
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yeah I was I was talking to someone earlier today that you should have a competition between you I was like yeah
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it was
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me it's like I'm so so unnoticeable that even your own good
41:57
partner brilliant yeah oh man of all the people that were recognizing me I hope
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my girlfriend would but I I had a similar moment and this was complete arrogance so somebody walked up to me and went oh hi I I really like it's
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really nice to meet you and shook my hand like things like that and it was I was outside cuz I I vape and out I went
42:15
outside in the little Courtyard area some guy went really really nice to meet you and done this and I was like oh it's
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great thank you very much brilliant would you like some freebies he's like yeah so I handed him one of the little um Ross Marines and a pin bag battle
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brothers battle brothers um I'm screwed now yeah sorry lawyer um I haven't got
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one I've got a mate who does law or something but yeah um so I was like yeah
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there you go and he he just looked at it went what's what are these and I was like the the F that's a faux Hammer like
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miniature and thing he's like what's faux Hammer I was like well me you said you know me I like yeah I know you're
42:51
from the painting phase I was like oh go you forgot that you wear two hats I forgot yeah yeah I
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hat so so that so I think yeah that was the biggest kind of like that made me feel like yeah shut up you like you know
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put you you're not you're not a big wig yeah get back in your box and then
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go away but not get back in your box just get out of that other box yeah exactly yeah so yeah I'd like to I'm
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just going to cancel for I'm here now so screw it but yeah but no that was it but
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yeah the one last thing I wanted to talk about and it's purely because beautiful because it's beautiful this is nothing
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but complete and total um I just want something for me and it's it's nothing
43:33
more than a card box for my cards I I don't make play many trading card games but I've got a lot of card sleeves where
43:40
I'm like their collector's ones I've got some L caror ones which got significantly devalued thanks for that
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um makes it but it is this is so the weird thing about this is I bought it from element it's the um it's the Dan
43:54
Morris version so Dan Morris is like a tattooist artist who collaborated with
44:00
artist Opus and put it this way like you you like me we have our own artist Opus brush set and branded stuff and I prefer
44:07
this to my own like his designs kind it's incredible back and get that got one of
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them boxes which was kindly given to me uh at adepticon and I've been looking at I kept thinking what am I going to do
44:19
with this what am I going to do with that and I couldn't think I want to do that and it's only when I looked at that one and there's a big dice on the top of it pretending to be a mace or a B pret
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to be dice my brain's finally gone I could put me DI in there I don't understand why it's not passed through
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me brain at any point justo would you know what to do with
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that box but they are the guy who did the design Dan Morris is the guy who so do remember
44:43
Darren leam had the old Hammer Space Marine firstborn competition thing which was
44:50
really fun and there were a lot of great ENT Tommy sh entered it up I didn't know that yes he brought one in didn't he
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so somebody um had the had a tattoo of the firstborn Marine done to enter into
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the competition oh my God talk about trying to win it so um but what's makes it a really small world is the guy who
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had the tattoo is the guy who works for artist Opus and and does like the CNC
45:15
tooling and all the all the design work for these boxes um and the guy who
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tattooed it is Dan Morris the guy who came up with this and the other design so it's like yes so but so that that's
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that's that's my hall your hall which was the next day yeah yeah it gets you
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in a spending mood doesn't it like even if you know what I I have I have mixed
45:38
I've mixed feelings it was amazing to go and I think my favorite times were just
45:43
talking to people yeah yeah always so you know chatting to the guys at element seeing Byron and Ed because I haven't
45:49
seen those guys in in a while um you know seeing you for an extra day in the
45:56
week always a delight I love how he points at me when he sarcastically says that and not me and Jeff like yeah okay
46:02
I didn't see I didn't see Jeff fair point I'll take it I'll take um so you know I saw you I didn't see Jeff in the
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middle um and and then the yeah the people that I bumped into I literally bumped into someone and he was like oh
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my god um so that was cool so if if anyone said hello to me that was that was amazing like I demoed a game uh I
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think it was like like a language game or something like that called da da da it was next it was I I wanted to try it but didn't
46:29
have time and it was quite fun and and we we're figuring out and having a play and it was like sorry language is failed
46:35
he like oh God damn it and then as we were leaving he was like big fan of the YouTube channel and I was like oh oh I'm
46:41
glad I wasn't a dick you flipped the table and you
46:46
lost um but yeah it was awesome but like Christ I was there a Saturday so
46:51
monumentally busy I swear the the walkways were a bit quieter um just
46:57
walking slowly around for I think I was there for 6 hours um and I didn't buy anything like I think I saw the the one
47:05
thing that I was like oh my God that's awesome was somebody had made their own
47:10
Lego kits to to be like movie props so there was lightsabers guns from Star
47:16
Wars all that kind of thing there was a pistol from Blade Runner hand solos Blaster and stuff like that and I was
47:22
like oh my God like I want so many of them but then I looked at the price and I was like nah
47:27
yeah yeah there's there was a few bits like that what I find weird like we were saying like you Pi you picked the wrong
47:33
so I was there all three days as we said you picked the wrong day to go because there was a number being spouted that
47:39
there were 8,000 more people than expected at the event but you know on Sunday when you got to the corners and
47:45
you had to like like I was walking around Saturday just showing everyone my cleavage trying trying to get through
47:51
like this all the time um but like you know what the corners were like on Sunday where you couldn't quite squeeze
47:57
through in like the far that was every aisle all day yes so you were just like squeeze squeeze squeeze can I see so
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yeah but I went for all three days and we were saying like you mentioned something before the show started I didn't even see so three days there and
48:12
I and I still missed stuff yeah like I I I didn't find the color Forge uh stand
48:19
and it was right in the middle yeah I was it understand yeah yeah I went over because I just wanted to see what the uh
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what the uh the content creator colors were going to look like yeah yeah and they look good yeah they did yeah be
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fair yeah well some of them I couldn't see the point of but generally I thought they were I think I think the um the one
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uh I don't see the point of is requery red pointless and I'm only saying that cuz I said it to Mikey on the day I was
48:44
like they're all good ex is there a pledge here where I can get everything but that
48:50
one and and for those those of you who don't understand sarcasm that that's
48:55
that's my way of just we were saying that we were saying that if we if they've approached us because
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we don't do a lot of painting and although your painting is is coming on Leaps and Bounds we're not we're not
49:06
considered high level painters should we say with within the content creator world is that they would do like one for
49:12
us which should just be like you know like the cancer when you're um you're cleaning your your your keyboard yes I
49:19
justess they're not trusted we're not trusted we're not trusted with paint particles maybe if you've got a Dusty
49:25
miniature let's get on a Shelf yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah BR if you could pick a color cuz I I had a word with hu and I
49:31
was like why have you not got an orange mate I know I know a good brand for an orange and he sort of looked at me weird I was like I've got more subs than Mikey
49:37
man like seriously yeah just I think like there's neck and neck in it um but yeah he's
49:43
obviously more the painted guy I've gone 3D printed but I would pick one of two colors I'd either do a really Vivid orange to match both my brand and yours
49:50
and you know would do something like that or I would go like resin gray and I
49:56
would literally like the best primer to paintt your model the exact same color
50:01
that it already is except it's now got paint a primer on it as opposed to B
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Hammer's pile of Shame gray pile of Shame gray pile of Shame gray oh that's so at least it doesn't matter what resin
50:12
you buy you can spray it to look like gray plastic and then the good thing is is then when you enter it in competition
50:18
you only have to put two pains on it yeah and then you go it's got three pains though it's got yeah one of them
50:24
one of them is primer I need to I need to cuz I know um like the the people that are involved in it have generally
50:31
put videos up and and stuff of them I'm using it interestingly I I think I saw a clip of guy cuz he's his is like ice
50:39
blue isn't it yeah it's like a it's a more Vi I thought it'd be Space Wolves blue but it's more vibrant like his his
50:46
channel channel color isn't it um but he I think he slap chopped an orc and he started off with blue and I was like oh
50:53
no way that's interesting and it it came out pretty decent didn't it yeah like I haven't seen the full video but I'll
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have to have a look yeah so would be the P Payton face duster yeah that's it yeah just a can of air can of air we're
51:05
joking but for those who don't know Games Workshop released cans of air you know this was that for the spray gun for
51:12
the air so they had a they had the flamer shaped yeah which was been a topical conversation yeah I'm I'm going
51:17
to buy one off of eBay cuz you you can buy one and attach it to a compressor yeah um yeah so give it a go with that
51:24
like it is it is a spray gun it's for base your miniatur isn't it yeah but yeah I
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think that's are interesting like was um was Pet's like rakar flesh in a can
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right yeah I think that's a good shout I think I think they're like I think they're the
51:41
really versatile yeah yeah like the most versatile two they're going to sell the
51:46
most sugs his pink spray if you're doing if you're doing yellow so you spray
51:51
spray it pink dust over with white and then you do your contrast so the
51:57
your Imperial fists don't you well I just I [ __ ] love painting yellow um cuz I think it this guy's insane used to
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be no cuz it used to be really hard but you just see contrast now and it's like Imperial fist contrast paint is just
52:09
fantastic um but yeah I think that like that's what I would mik one is a very
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good red if you're going to do flesh Terrors yeah or or ravengard well that's what he did didn't he he brought his
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models as well which was cool put them out no what was it um isn't it blood r
52:28
Ravens sorry from thing but they would have been cuz I I I printed some terrain that was very Dawn aesque from the guys
52:34
at War Games terrain who we met at lvo and we also at adepticon oh
52:41
the if they are watching hi guys hi Patrick lovely but they um so they so
52:47
they did some dawn of Wares terrain that you can print um and I thought oh that'd be brilliant so had I have had that can
52:53
of Mikey's red I'd have been like oh I'll paint that for the video it'd be brilliant but yeah I think I think the smartest ones just from a which will
53:00
sell the best I think is tabletop tactics did like a is it I don't know if it's ice white but they've got a white a
53:07
white a gray white and then you've got the um the one that Pete's done which is
53:12
like a rck off fleshy style gray and I think just those Grays those neutrals will be so the dead animal bits is good
53:20
the SE Studio One I was a bit intrigued by bronze yeah yeah like a so that but
53:26
it's very dark yeah I don't know how much very use of them but I don't know how much you going to get out of yeah
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yeah but yeah um and then catches on the next one yeah yeah yeah and then Val
53:39
doing yellow which was a an obvious of course absolutely classic and then Peach doing Peach P there's three colors there
53:45
definitely on brand the three colors there that allows you to do an imperial fist or all the you've got your you
53:53
you've got your primer your zenial and then your your top coat to to do Imperial fist all just them yeah yeah
53:59
they're really good I think the the biggest problem they've got and I think they know they've got it as well but yeah the flesh ones really good for like
54:05
fleshy colors as well isn't it but the um like the issue they've got is they they're stuck in the UK at the moment
54:11
and they get mentioned a lot yeah and they know that they they're look I'm quite confident they're working on it
54:17
like you know they didn't I had a chat with them and and they didn't confirm anything to me cuz obviously I don't
54:23
think they want anyone like to know what their plans are but I think they're very Keen to obviously open up to a wider
54:28
Market CU they've got a fantastic product well I I'm on a um death guard Facebook group and there's people like
54:34
oh I don't want to buy the Games Workshop one and I always go right if you're in the UK this will be usefully
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to you which is color Forge do one called death rattle green which is that yeah which is that color and it's really
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good you get more in a can for less money it's great I think um that's the business model though isn't it it's like
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someone's just looked at it and gone hm what what do people want in Miniatures they want good colors they want lots of
54:59
paint for as little as possible and it's not the cheapest paint on the market it's not like alford's random even I
55:05
went bought from Hal not that long back and that stting to creep up in price as well the only good thing the main thing
55:10
about HAL although you can't color match because it's not built to color match like the way color Forge is but the the
55:17
Halford range is just immense cuz you know what you know however many colors a car there is there's there's a kind of
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spray for it but yeah it was really good um um but yeah anything else yeah yeah
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tell what I can't remember the last time I well actually the last time I used a rattle can was to Prime my dry brush uh
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dry palette um I've just been using an airbrush a lot recently I mean I know for for people you know it's like it's
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not good for everybody and all that sort of stuff but we go downstairs and if
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it's windy because of the way all the buildings are that it just goes around and I don't want to get people's cars covered in primer no um you said you got
55:56
to do the whole car and it's that'd be so expensive I did the tubes from that last
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week when it was raining um also don't look at the back quarter panel at your car just saying no reason
56:10
yeah next to my car you would I would but no airush airbrushing is like such an easier option isn't it so so like I I
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either go well either black or white or now I've got me gray um and then
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whatever paint I want to use and then I just Face coat it with that yeah and I find that the quality is a lot better
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which is more on me for being craped with sprays yeah um but I've got more control so yeah yeah it is yeah yeah so
56:38
my one from yesterday that I uh was really impressed with there was a number of them but first of all I can never
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pronounce it that the the lovely people who make Fallout oh medus we went looked at their new you've
56:52
got them there I did we went and looked at their new game well for a start fall their Fallout range is awesome it's
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really good it was it was God smackingly good last year it's got even better this
57:05
year they Bo with the TV show and yeah the boards the TV show's blown it up but
57:12
they've got a new game I can't what it's called but I can I can't remember what it's called but I
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can tell you what the concept is which it is Romans versus cthulu right no no
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hear him out but it's phenomenal because they have the large cthulu sort of old one
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creature don't they and you know you know I think it's interesting at times is that you know we always go oh model
57:38
oh models are too expensive and then this and that and we spoke to a lovely chap who worked for them yesterday Jamie
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Jamie Jamie who was Jordan Jamie who a really cool combat Kilt pockets on it
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was I was I was quite an a of it but I haven't got the likes for one and um and he um he could hear he saying you know
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we wanted to make the the old the the Ancient One this the old one this size
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this we couldn't manage it but we managed to get it within this price and you could tell that it was like they
58:07
were really trying to do the best for the customer not like just like oh you know well we knocked it out this price
58:13
and that's what we fanas but it was really really nice and and the it what we seen initially was a a large standard
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looking and the nicest possible way cthulu creature loads of great texture on it just designed for dry brushing
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really really nice and then that comes with uh like flying sorts of Harpy type
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creatures and then the other one that was really cool was um infected Romans
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being turned into cthulu creatures or like tentacles one of them was like ripped in half with this so just like you go I
58:46
never you never ever see Romans well someone on that go well there's 25 different games with Romans to do with
58:52
Mod demons I'm sure they might be but I've not seen a Roman a standard Roman
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legionaire legionaire being turned into like a weird mythical creature before
59:02
the way this was you like oh I bought the Roman kit from warlord games and made it myself yeah have you not seen
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them but what they did what Jamie said which was a really cool thing is that the Romans in the set are scaled to be
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the same SC scale as what generally Romans are for historical oh cool and
59:20
they've done some of them to look really heroic big Square jords as Jamie said two swords and heat ch and he said and
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the ideal thing with them is he said if you don't want to buy this game he said but you want some kickass looking
59:32
characters in your Roman army to be like the captain stand he said there's some really and they the I'm not the biggest
59:38
fan of historicals but the Roman but the Roman Miniatures were really nice there
59:44
was the whole range was lovely but the Roman Miniatures you thought you know what if you just had a group of these in your historical game and then just one
59:50
giving it loads two swords you and they looked really nice to paint as well so
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the um Jamie was uh very generous with giving his ministers and he was very generous there a couple couple of uh we
1:00:02
got like some is brilliant you you missed the massive massive but this is it yeah
1:00:08
don't know how much that cost oh God they're there every year they're massive but just for like that the miss the
1:00:13
thing like I what I like about them that he mentioned to me because like again I've just said historicals make me yaw
1:00:19
no no offense to anybody who likes them it's just not my thing I like the same as fancy I like sci-fi I like the future
1:00:25
I like ology but I also like Romans just gener you know as a thing um and he was
1:00:30
like oh and the whole range is going to be available as STL and you're seeing more of that now no way of like yeah
1:00:37
we're releasing a game you've got the options you can buy buy the models we've got plastic resin we've got box sets or
1:00:43
you can buy the stls and print them that's really interesting I think we're going to see a lot more of that poor dog
1:00:48
star at at because she wants to get on the couch do you know what's Orcs but my
1:00:54
favorite thing about look and I we go oh what a lie down my favorite thing about the
1:01:00
fact you can get them as stls go L on the couch then B go on the couch go on
1:01:05
will you watch that you would be interested yeah so that that was really cool I really I really like that and
1:01:10
then I promised I would give them a shout out a because I'm a sucker for ex soldiers like you know myself out there
1:01:16
doing something a little bit different which is cool and and I met uh two gentleman one Royal Navy one Royal
1:01:23
Marines so essentially still Royal Navy as as well and they have I don't know
1:01:28
how I'm going to spell that ataria pronounce it a t l ier ATA ATA Deadwood
1:01:36
ATA and I promised I would give them a shout out because they were a really nice guys and B I really like their
1:01:42
product they do really big bulletproof cases they might not literally buy
1:01:49
bulletproof cases for what though for for carrying your war game Army your wargame and army is that prob are there
1:01:54
places I put you off from Liverpool aren't you so that yeah you've got to definitely at Le well I don't need
1:02:00
bulletproof but I definitely need baseball back with BB around there you go so bear in mind I'm not having to go
1:02:06
at scousers just go yes you are I'll just take take it to heart later I've got time canell can just you yeah that's
1:02:13
fine canel going to happen one day or another um so yeah they do these really cool cases and they have all they all
1:02:20
come with shelves in them already and then another bit for putting your codeck in really cool actually like lock uh
1:02:27
flip lock um metal Jo metal um well yeah
1:02:32
locks you on them really really was think trying to think of another way and then realized I'd already used it but
1:02:38
the um really really sturdy and the idea you can just pull everything out on a tray really really true yeah so I
1:02:44
promised I would mention them and they are there they good guys go and give them a look I thought they were saying
1:02:50
that their their main problem at the moment is they do they they've got the opposite thing for col for they're doing
1:02:56
big guns abroad but to push a little bit more in the UK but they UK based they're
1:03:02
UK based say an an ex Roy Navy and ex Ro Marine Commando oh I'm with him being a
1:03:10
ro Marine Commando I was in a headlock but he forced me into say I promised I would do it or he said he come and Hunt me down yeah I think that that's a good
1:03:18
way to sell stuff is it just just thinking that but yeah I just H up in your room with a royal Marine Commando
1:03:24
dagger at your throat almost it yeah that's it but yeah really
1:03:30
I was really impressed with them and the other one unfortunately I've got the flyer with me because I can't remember so I
1:03:36
can't remember the name of them but the concept and it's going to they're going to go live in July was a couple of chaps had finger
1:03:43
golf golf club on your finger and you tap it from a little sponge green and
1:03:50
you can actually then have the actual uh green that you you with your your hole and your flag on another bit so you
1:03:57
could sitly like go right I'm on the coffee table and that's on the dining room table and you can and a little like
1:04:04
little um hard phone ball and you and they are designed so that the swing of
1:04:10
your finger cuz um my boys tried to I didn't get to try but I watched both of my boys doing it and one of one of the
1:04:17
two kids I can't remember which one was trying to flick it yeah and he went don't flick it he said it's designed on
1:04:22
your finger with exactly the right angle that if you swing it and follow it through with your hand it's like doing
1:04:28
it you do like a full arm swing or do you do a a wrist swing well it depends how far it is but it was really really
1:04:35
cool um that's so but it looked really really good and they got loads of expansion ideas for it as well that they
1:04:40
were they were sh me I was really uh I was really impressed with it it looked that's good it reminds me there's one
1:04:45
that my kids loved and I took my son last year and I took my whole family this year and there was one called shape
1:04:50
Invaders and it's right it was as soon as you walk in you go to the left and there a bit there were a bit more left
1:04:56
this time than last year but this is this is basically a board and on the board you get all they are a little like
1:05:03
um neon almost fluorescent see-through shapes you know like the sort of plastic you get on Old Lego Space thing and
1:05:09
there's there's bright yellow and bright orange and what you do is you set up a mother ship a load of Shields and then your aliens or your your things and you
1:05:16
basically just flick them across this border each other and they were there last year they're like oh we're coming to Kickstarter soon so I went over to it
1:05:22
this year thinking oh I can buy the pack nope they're still coming to Kickstarter soon because since then they've added
1:05:28
like stretch goals like a board a table they've made a whole table you can play
1:05:33
on with neon lights and stuff in it I'm like this is all good but just want to play the game yeah like I think that
1:05:40
that's like I guess one of my gripes about going to the Expo like last year there was this really cool game that and
1:05:46
and we have it now um it's kind of like reverse Jer um so you have to make a
1:05:51
tower but all of the blocks are different shapes and some of them are circles and this sat and the other and
1:05:56
and we played it and we were like and they had a really cool stand it was made to look like a living room and that kind of thing we're like this is awesome can
1:06:02
we buy it no and like when we when we did the um the like the um da da da game
1:06:10
I think they sold out as well and we're trying to find it online can't get it anywhere and he's just like no like I
1:06:17
wish I didn't know this existed my boys played Star Wars unlimited the new Star Wars card game and then couldn't buy
1:06:22
that anywhere either yeah oh it's it's gone and element said oh he had some Starter Set
1:06:28
what we haven't had any of the booster packs for it I'm a bit hesitant on it because I don't mind a a card game in a
1:06:35
box but when you have to start buying boosters the thing is you start that starts to become you know that's that's
1:06:41
if it is if it was there you'd have bought it wouldn't you yeah I'd bought I'd have bought the starter box yeah
1:06:46
yeah because you like everybody and I've noticed this about cons people are so
1:06:52
eager to people were walking around with carts carts oh wow to to like put stuff in and
1:06:59
and that seems to be like a done thing at con because carrying it around games yeah I mean I'm so glad
1:07:05
I've got mates who work stands cuz I was like can I just leave these with you cuz all of their leave it and pick it up
1:07:11
later stuff they'd all sold out apparently yeah that's like talking of cart is because it just made me think
1:07:16
about it and you've got the photograph on your phone so all see if we can get Pat to slot it in yeah was the uh how
1:07:23
good was the big guy with the be cosplaying Fallout oh yeah oh that was all of the cosplayers but yeah he was
1:07:30
fantastic like and he didn't work for thingy did he no yeah we'll get the photo up so there was a guy who just
1:07:35
stood at the medus booth and he' proper I forget his name I met him on the Friday and like in the power armor yeah
1:07:41
no power was in the blue suit but he didn't it look like he'd been round the block a few times the rifle was really
1:07:47
cool he had to he had a backpack but the backpack had like one of them foldable little trolleys in the cor and it even
1:07:53
weathered the wheels on it and he really he was a I don't think I got his name but he was a really really
1:08:01
lovely if you're watching I'm sorry but the the other guys I do know who do the cosplay there's mem who's Limestone
1:08:07
Forge she's the Imperial fist there's uh davri if I'm been pronouncing it right
1:08:12
who is Iron Warrior cosplay Dave of exitor Cosplay we we should honestly I
1:08:18
like I we should get these guys on the show and because the engineering of what they do for like the Space Marine suits
1:08:24
is in Saye but Dave blessing brought four suits so day one you walk in and you've got Dave from mini War gaming
1:08:32
Matt from mini wargaming Gaz from mini wargaming all wearing giant Space Marines waving you in yeah and it it was
1:08:39
absolutely brilliant and I walked it like I very mind I walked in with my family who' never been to one of these before my wife's quite nervous around
1:08:45
crowds and as soon as we walked through the doors I was like right I'm going to go got a tickets if you want to do here next minute we're accosted by four
1:08:52
massive Space Marines and then Chloe comes over who's Lady Kane online she's like hi hi hi and Emma's like that's my
1:08:58
wife she's like like it's okay okay guys we're just going to go to thing like
1:09:04
breathe breathe breathe they're not giant men they're just wearing costumes it was a shame I tell was a shame wasn't
1:09:09
there this year cuz he I really thought he was it was really cool last year I was hoping I would see again was the big
1:09:14
necron oh yeah yeah I see that yeah Ben
1:09:20
last year he a yeah he works for the I think it's the combat cards game
1:09:25
works for them and he does cosplay he like yeah I'll dress up why not amazing he was really really good to it was a
1:09:32
shame he was he he wasn't there this year with what yeah I like I haven't been to a con in ages um and uh it's
1:09:41
really funny in the morning like I my girlfriend oh what should I wear and I was like just whatever you want probably
1:09:47
just be comfortable cuz it's going to be like a day and she had some dungarees and I bought some dungarees recently cuz
1:09:53
I was like oh I've never had a PIR like I want to get some but like I've never been like brave enough to wear them
1:09:58
outside and uh I was like oh we can't both be wearing dungar that's going to be a bit embarrassing isn't it and oh
1:10:05
people will be looking at us oh my god um and then like we got tickets and then
1:10:10
we met with you and then all these guys in like amazing orc cosplay oh yeah that was um nerd
1:10:17
princess is her name I forget Frankie who goes by nerd princess came with I don't know if it's other other other
1:10:22
half but her and um this tall lad were like there was like four people or something yeah it was amazing and then
1:10:29
like my girlfriend looked at me and was just like and you were worried about wearing
1:10:35
dungar oh it's good the last two the last few I want to give a shout out to the the guys with and this this would be
1:10:42
like it's one of the things I'd love as an extravagant puras and I'm so glad I took my wife because I've been trying to talk her into it for years and I think
1:10:49
I'm finally winning around is the gaming tables well yeah there was a couple of
1:10:54
different varience was I've took a photograph of one of the the the ones that are the pre-built gaming tables
1:11:00
which pre-built yeah they know not cuz the other guys theing and then there
1:11:06
yeah yeah yeah but the ones who do like two and a half Grand or something was geek geek andon are always the Big Show
1:11:11
like they had one of the streets named after them yeah so geek andon were there
1:11:17
um and like it's weird cuz I'd worked if you like I was there sort of there to be with my mini Factory but also wanted to
1:11:22
promote onepage rules and they were good but they had like Avenues named after their stands but yeah so geek andon had
1:11:29
a whole Avenue they had a massive yellow banner and these table start at like 2,000 but like go up to 8 10 12 custom
1:11:38
built crazy but the ones I really want to give a shout out to cuz they're local Lads to me like literally they're from
1:11:44
Mansfield is natural 20 or Nat 20 who who had a smaller Booth but they said oh
1:11:49
it was well like they every year they sell more and more and they do custom orders and and they're absolutely great
1:11:56
who did you get uh I'm just going to have a look yeah these are again and it's custom tables but what I love about them is so so for anyone who doesn't
1:12:03
know them hopefully we might have shown some pictures by down I don't know I didn't take any pictures so you guys are
1:12:08
going to have to didn't I've even forgotten the the first time when you were like oh yeah we'll put a picture up
1:12:15
I can't even remember what that was now that's fine don't worry I'll just send you all my photos have IED it I'll have
1:12:20
to deal with it you'll have to dig through but um oh you've got one haven't you yeah so that is that
1:12:25
that so really nice um and what it is so it's a table but where your normal table
1:12:32
is and you've got the depth you basically that's sunken and then in there you've got like a like a uh felt
1:12:40
playing surface that you can play your board games on I think I want to pass them yeah and then you put like these Eaves over it which go in a little
1:12:46
storage box to the side um and and you put them in sideways and they basically cover the table so you can have it as
1:12:53
like a dining table so you can play games and you just cover it and leave your game yeah um and they're really and
1:12:59
I absolutely love them but they come with lights in they come with usb chargers and they've got like this Gap around the edge so you can just like
1:13:06
wedge in a drinks holder or or a DM board for your D you don't your D and D players and I'm like oh they're amazing
1:13:13
but then there's another one who we spoke to which if you going back to them
1:13:18
I've been trying to talk my wife into one of them for years I was like I want a table and I'm like yeah um but my wife
1:13:24
be like no don't want to do this I'm not spending that on a kitchen thing but when she saw the bench cuz we want a
1:13:29
table with a bench she saw like oh can you get a bench with it I was like yeah they'll do benches and chairs like we could have a bench in like down one side
1:13:35
against the and we can save space and I was like okay I'm just going to shut up let you do your talking the product sell
1:13:41
itself yeah exactly so s into it but yeah but if you haven't got the space um
1:13:46
these were the other guys I was talking to bery is just the most entertaining
1:13:52
American bloke ever never got a chance to speak him sadly I got I was talking to his uh wax mustached uh NE gentleman
1:14:00
from the Netherlands who is uh it was there I spent most of the time to be fair just talking about the Netherlands because
1:14:06
it's a place I like being yeah um but yes um but that uh game Toppers yeah
1:14:14
where you can H literally have a 6 foot by 4T board in a bag in a bag that folds
1:14:21
out it's got nonslip underneath it so if you put it over your own table move the most important thing it's got big rubber
1:14:28
stoppers so you won't scratch it down room table and end up being knifed in the Heart by your wife um various nepr
1:14:34
mats as well yeah yeah and then um um dice towers that you can connect to the sides of it drinks holders you name it
1:14:41
and it was really really impressive and they have uh once a year because
1:14:47
apparently because it's so big they they struggle with the expense of shipping it into Europe a bit so once a year they do
1:14:53
a Kickstarter yeah so that they can then get a load of it together in a in a in a
1:14:59
container and get it they get it like into a central point somewhere in Europe and then ship it from there so it keeps
1:15:06
the price down a little bit so that they do a big Kickstarter because obviously once you do a Kickstarter it's sold
1:15:11
already so you know where it's going though I mean we're saying get the price I mean these things still aren't cheap
1:15:16
no they they are dollars they're about $5 $1600 yeah but they come in a big padded
1:15:22
bag cuz I think I saw I think I saw the KN 20 tables and and then looked at a
1:15:28
price tag of like 2 and a half Grand or something and I was like I can understand how it would cost that much
1:15:34
um but no thank you and then L looked at the Toppers and and they were like one
1:15:40
and a half Grand and I was like I can that's cheaper yeah we're head in the right direction yeah I think the thing
1:15:46
is that a lot of people look look at like anything wooden unfortunately nowadays gets compared to Ikea prices
1:15:53
and it's like and it's not it's not compressed MDF no this is this is hard wood like these things are heirlooms not
1:16:01
you know you're hoping to pass them down to Generations like I've had three Ikea tables in the last decade whereas like
1:16:08
this would be one for life especially if I could play games on it but that's it yeah so that's everyone who was there who wasn't there Jeff oh does this this
1:16:16
gang um they were there last year they quite local to us they're quite local to down the road um oh summer anyway anyway
1:16:25
yeah they do Miniatures this Miniatures company they they make games for the
1:16:30
games exp their work shoers just down the road oh what it called this I don't
1:16:36
know but yeah this this game's Workshop called yeah we call it that yeah weren't there that was that was cringe dragging
1:16:43
that out wasn't it I was like I'm just going to see how long you can go with this look at the start see see how many
1:16:50
how many viewers drop off during I was Bor to the Joker I was in on same sometimes they land often they
1:16:58
don't I I'm not more often they don't yeah but yeah so they they weren't there
1:17:03
and I made I'm sort of like made this this comment a few weeks ago cuz someone had said to me like no they're not on the vendors thing and I assumed it was
1:17:10
like they're going to be there they're just not there cuz they're always massive and they've probably been put in
1:17:15
Hall three or something and it's like you can't miss them they weren't there no they weren't I've got to be honest I
1:17:21
think they weren't there because all their event team have been assass all well apparently um I'd heard that
1:17:29
they weren't there because they'd been at something another big event the week previous cuz they've been to Texas oh
1:17:34
that was the weekend a couple of weeks ago was and they just decided they were sitting this one out but I also think
1:17:41
they went there because what you know if you remember last year you had G last year they'd had their they'd had their
1:17:47
own games day and stupid war hammer Fest and they've been this stupid thing of Q simulator two two yeah Q simulator two
1:17:55
three hours to have one one go at one round of leviath yeah and then then the
1:18:01
irony was that then I went to games car I went to games Expo and just walked up
1:18:06
and played and could have I didn't because I was more just nosy in at the Miniatures but I could have literally
1:18:11
just walked up and gone can I play yeah and and I think Devil's Advocate maybe
1:18:16
that's why they weren't yeah they was like what because they what they were they just had the footall the previous
1:18:23
the previous year I personally think I don't know like I I can imagine that decision being made like were they
1:18:29
selling anything last year yeah yeah they had a a full pop-up store like knowing knowing Games Workshop now as a
1:18:36
corporate company I don't think of it as anything different than any other corporate company and for all like the
1:18:42
amount of people talking about it this weekend was a lot like I heard 15 different rumors as to why they're not
1:18:48
there and I imagine the truth is someone in charge of this has gone well it actually costs more to go than we make
1:18:54
be there yeah yeah yeah it's like it's certainly a good like a good look for
1:19:02
them to be there I think and to have the sponsor on you know all of the marketing
1:19:08
material and need to give that think they just needed to give that big Terminator a week off that's it so tired
1:19:15
so it's like people were commenting on like cuz the dragons they were saying oh the dragons about everyone was getting photos of the dragon at the entrance
1:19:21
they were like I didn't know there was a dragon there cuz every year I've been there has been post postco and Warhammer has been there and it's been the Space
1:19:27
Marine or the Terminator so they're like oh the dragon's back cuz Warhammer aren't here but it's it's a weird thing
1:19:33
that and it also felt like he was obviously then a lot more stalls fitting cuz when games W up land there they take
1:19:38
up a lot of space yes and when that's your hobby you you kind of congregate around it as well and and but I saw a
1:19:46
lot more this year I've got to be honest as well if I'm being truthful I didn't see as much Warhammer for sale on other
1:19:53
stalls no even even element didn't take a great deal no it was a lot it was a
1:19:58
lot of I mean they had some but it was Lot Star War they had mostly combat Patrol the combat patrols I think
1:20:05
Wayland were the most sort of like traditional war hammer shop but then they had all the Bandai stuff there as
1:20:13
Wells you know I've got to be honest I think personally I don't think it made a
1:20:18
great deal of difference to to the Expo and I don't think it made a great deal of difference to Games Workshop I I
1:20:24
don't I think it was just I think it was just nice to see all that extra space being used by more more little stalls which
1:20:30
was cool yeah if I had to moan about Expo if I had to have a moan about it I
1:20:36
would say my main problem is is that especially old and fat like me is that if you want to go and have a sit down
1:20:41
you have to walk a considerable distance half a mile to go and have a sit down one used to be that they would be
1:20:47
directly outside of the the the food vendors that were inside the main hall yeah they would then be small chairs
1:20:55
go and get a coffee and sit back outside in the main and they were all gone so there was literally nowhere to sit down
1:21:01
unless don't get me wrong the fact that they now gave an entire Hall just for people who are queuing up to get a
1:21:06
ticket true and then they put some what was Al those still a bit expensive but quite good there's three good three or
1:21:13
four good trailers yeah that's where we got a drink yeah I bought you a drink and it was like 3 something I bought I
1:21:21
bought yeah I bought um yeah I got M lunch from there I got three I bought three bottles of fizzy drinks and they
1:21:28
came to £840 yeah yeah I might have been off then but yeah it was it was like I
1:21:33
thought well and then I thought well if I had to bought three fishy drinks at one even at the the Hefty top end of 150
1:21:39
when he played new price 150 a bottle that's still 450 thought I've nearly played you know nearly paid double this
1:21:45
to me is the reason why Warhammer should have been there cuz then it would have looked cheap in com in comparison to the price of the food yeah maybe cuz day one
1:21:52
me and me and my wife we bought three burgers burger and chips and a chips
1:21:58
58 yeah no uh two two or three drinks with that as well 58 that was that was
1:22:06
from one of the vendors but day two I found if you walk outside go to the Hilton walk all the way through the
1:22:12
Hilton out the back there was like a secret food vendor uh like street food loads of vendors brilliant so I had a
1:22:19
hot dog from there it was dead nice yeah cuz I I had a burger from hole three where you get your wrong cuz I remember
1:22:25
there be in loads of seats and about it being like really busy I think there was a group of people sat on a bench or like
1:22:31
they were trying to go like oh some of our mates are joining us and and then someone was like well they're not here
1:22:37
now and just like sat down and was just sort of watched half of this sort of argument happened about seating and this
1:22:44
that and the other and I'm like and then uh I was yeah I was like I really want some chips went to the burger place and
1:22:50
they ran out but they were in the fryer but then they were like no we don't have any chips left cuz I think they just
1:22:55
want the queue to to keep moving and then the person after us like got chips and it was really sad they obviously
1:23:02
watch the show they just first problem yeah yeah that's it yeah yeah no so I mean yeah I I absolutely went there to
1:23:09
spend loads of money and the first people that I bumped into that were like hey Pat I was like yeah I'm I'm like I'm
1:23:14
ready to spend like I'm so Keen uh and didn't nothing nothing really sort of took my fancy if if even if games
1:23:22
warshot were there um I wouldn't have bought anything unless they'd had I
1:23:28
don't know like I I want the orc big Mech or whatever that that new one but he's he got announced on Sunday that
1:23:34
he's individual now yeah yeah the other the bech boy yes yeah that's it it's a
1:23:40
very nice miniature that as well is your goal to buy all the Orcs before you start painting the Orcs no no I just
1:23:48
looks like it I I picked up I picked up a boom daker snazzwagon and I was like I
1:23:53
could buy this but then I've like I've built some vehicles and you know you have to have sub assemblies with all the
1:23:59
guys yeah and then so you have to keep the roof off and this I was like you know what I can't be us building that I
1:24:04
don't really like the look of it I don't want to have it just for the sake of it I I only wanted a boom daker snazzwagon
1:24:09
because of the way J saying I know yeah say it again say it again three times fast bwag bwag bwag well done yeah it's
1:24:18
not that much of a tongue twister I don't think but I only wanted a boom DEA snazzwagon because of the way James
1:24:25
Workshop pronounces it um because you you you generally go boom dakus nwag but
1:24:32
then he's like like he's on the phone and he's just like oh yes we want all of the children to get their boom ders and
1:24:39
as wagons or whatever like it's it's it's like mat Berry if you just hey
1:24:44
pronounce this please New York City yeah he's landed a good role cuz someone's
1:24:50
come in and gone can we need you to be funny it's like I can do a great impression of Matt Barry like Fant I
1:24:56
obviously because you can't afford Matt Barry but EXA yeah like oh can you imagine Matt Barry playing James
1:25:04
Workshop how like I don't care what the money is that is marketing yeah like
1:25:11
spend it get that would get everyone like and orc what [ __ ] off I still think
1:25:19
their apology video for the V the vot
1:25:24
CeX being utterly broken was like the funniest thing ever and apparently the
1:25:30
you know the cut that nobody saw because it got banned in Germany like he picks up the phone and he's like what the
1:25:38
Germans yeah so it is you're right though it's like you go there and I think you you go to the Games Workshop
1:25:45
stand and and that was there before and it's like other than the Forge World stuff I guess everything you pick up and
1:25:51
you look at and you're like well I could walk over to shows sponsors Wayland games over there cheap and get it like
1:25:58
it's 10 or 15% off unless it's you release it more isn't it I guess yeah
1:26:03
this is the further the further and further I'm falling down the hobby trumpet like I was in element games I was like you bringing any oil oil paint
1:26:10
said and he was like no um does what s of store are you yeah [ __ ] you don't
1:26:17
have any muggy enter um so um yeah I was
1:26:22
I just went shopping afterwards and got the very Niche specific stuff that I got and like I quite like you know like I
1:26:29
love playing the exploding kittens I think that's that's a fantastic game I'm quite a fan of those like smaller easy
1:26:35
to playay card games if you like that try Doom Lings I just want to say it's a similar thing but it's it's quite yeah
1:26:41
picking up go on and um and Caris picked up a few of them and I was looking at them it's like oh it's quite for the
1:26:48
ones that you've never heard of it's quite a risk yeah CU sometimes it's like you know they're 10 15 quid which in in
1:26:56
games in a box is is relatively cheap um and and Caris picked up this one that
1:27:02
was about uh like competing Villages for best Garden of the year and and what
1:27:09
sort of sold it to me was it said it said like beautiful gardens and Petty grudges so I was like amazing like I'm
1:27:16
going to be able to go like oh Cynthia's grown her High since Too Tall um She's The Talk of the Town or or like you know
1:27:23
she's using that fertilizer that's banned um or something along tell us you're from combria without telling us
1:27:29
you're from coma yeah um and and we played it last
1:27:36
night and there were there was no mechanic for petty grudges at all um and
1:27:43
I won but you know I didn't necessarily Hol Victory felt like a Holo Victory you
1:27:49
not managed you hadn't got the chance to screw your girlfriend over yeah yeah that's You' be like I'd
1:27:55
be like oh my God like you'd be like oh this this other town is doing really well go and sabotage their roses like
1:28:02
that that would be S and then you steal a card off them or something like that still my favorite for that is um and it's and I know I've talked about it
1:28:08
many times but God it's brilliant is the board game of um Spartacus I've never played it oh it's brilliant it's
1:28:14
brilliant because it's got so minimal rules card game it's card-based but with an arena and at the end of every round
1:28:22
you'll have your Gladiators will fight right and but what's great about it is that you do things like blind bidding
1:28:28
when you like you go right a new Gladiator has entered has been made available for sale and you count all
1:28:33
your money on the side and then you P first down and then you go and then someone and then but you can do things
1:28:38
like you're going well um or you go you've got a great Gladiator you want to sell it to him yeah he in the game terms
1:28:45
now he's become my main competitor if you're like running the third spot and I can go to you because there's no rule to
1:28:51
say you can or you can't and go I will literally pay you more money not to sell it you can literally and then what the
1:28:58
best thing about it as well every like got your card that will go we're going to play this and it's going to screw you
1:29:05
over there is a card which was a swear word from the TV series that you can play which blanks out any other card
1:29:12
from being able to take effect and that card is called Jupiter's [ __ ] can literally go you got me that
1:29:19
you remember it was the swear words of the show was so you can Lally play the jup card
1:29:25
and it stops in is this based on the show then yeah yeah but its coolest
1:29:31
thing is and it sounds ridiculous it comes with little pre-molded figures for the Gladiators and you can bet on things
1:29:37
like decapitations happening and so on and so forth but what we did when we were playing it with a friend of ours
1:29:42
it's made by Gil force9 and what we did was instead because you could then give them the white Weaponry um because
1:29:49
they've made some Kelts they've made Gladiators and Roman centurions with the white weaponry and because of
1:29:56
decapitation so the decapitations bit in mind we played it using the right Weaponry on the right guys um using Lego
1:30:03
figures oh oh yeah because you know if they've got like the big that big oblong but
1:30:11
slightly rounded Roman Shield yeah there is a name for I can't remember if you've like paid for the Weaponry you could
1:30:17
have one of them and a spear but the molded figure might not look like that but if you got Lego fig Lego make them
1:30:24
look like that and they made leg they made a couple of different Lego centur um Gladiators and then there's Lego
1:30:30
barbarians yeah you can just buy CU from them used from them little blind bags that's not a mechanic cuz I love a game
1:30:36
that's got like a progression mechanic on like a figure or board it's why I L hero Quest because it's it's simple you
1:30:43
know it's not but it of all the games it's simple but you you actually build something as you go and another one like
1:30:49
that is um I suppose it's anywhere you've got a Dungeon Crawler but like um is it house on
1:30:54
haunted hill or the The Haunting of Hill House by Avalon Hill which is a really
1:30:59
good one you start like four of that's a really good game four of you start in the entrance and then have you ever seen
1:31:05
Cabin in the Woods yes a brilliant movie it's that as a game I don't know if they
1:31:11
I don't know if they're connected or inspired but you basically go and every time it's your move you put a new tile down and then as you're going through
1:31:17
the game someone will do something like you've touched this or you've picked that up or there's this thing and then when you get up to like level 10 you
1:31:24
then whoever's go it is you go through someone's given one book and the
1:31:29
remaining players are given another book and you go in another room and you read it because you then become the
1:31:36
antagonist and you have an objective and their objective then is to escape or do
1:31:41
something and escape and then the whole game [ __ ] oh it's so good but you progress through it we should play it
1:31:47
one night that sounds good yeah so I think yeah I I didn't buy anything cuz I yeah
1:31:53
I get I'm like o it's a risk to buy a game that I don't know CU like exploding
1:31:58
kittens everyone's heard of it because everyone's heard of it yeah and like everyone's heard of it because it's
1:32:04
really good so you're like oh I've heard loads of good things about this one I'll get it like those smaller games like if
1:32:11
um uh if water stones sell it they must be you know shifted through a lot um
1:32:18
whereas they they were there wer they were 20% off everything if you signed up for an account or cre a new email we
1:32:25
stopped and looked at water stones we stopped and looked at uh dog park or whatever it's called yeah yeah I picked
1:32:31
up um what the new double from there for the kids double duo or something yeah
1:32:38
yeah um but yes Workshop what were we on about their absence um yeah CU it's not
1:32:44
like they had the new edition of Sigmar to no no show off you just thought you know yeah you know yeah you wouldn't
1:32:49
want to be maybe they just don't want to sell any maybe everything I'm hearing though is spearheads good every
1:32:56
everyone's saying like spearhead is is like um what were we saying combat
1:33:01
Patrol and very I'm not the gaming guy but everyone I know who's played it is like This Is Such a Pity spear Ed's
1:33:06
great because it's like combat Patrol but balanced yeah but actually balanced and actually thought about so it's so
1:33:13
there's little things like the movement is is the only thing which is directly the same as sigar so movement distances
1:33:20
but everything else has either been like buffed or nerfed a and and things like that to try and keep the balance down
1:33:27
for these forces and it's like well that well that that's a Gateway product and
1:33:32
that's my biggest complaint about Warhammer is like how are you getting new people in we've talked about this
1:33:37
candles of course yes Fair Point yeah obvious candles and dressing gowns
1:33:43
and gunpla would be an idea but you you know that's a good idea they won't do that no have another company make their
1:33:51
models for them I think that that might be why they would possibly never do that
1:33:57
one cuz it's models yeah but you know anything else it's models on a sprw like
1:34:02
it's very close isn't it at least with the joy toys they're action figures they're yeah but I think that that's the
1:34:08
thing though it's like you know that yeah like for the last couple of years though it's almost been like yeah you have a license and you have a license
1:34:14
and you have a license and I had a friend who worked on the licensing team who lost his job a couple of years ago I
1:34:20
say a friend I knew him years ago and I've sort of like just kept an eye him on Facebook like I see his upates blah
1:34:25
blah and he's gone to Team 17 now which is oh oh cuz so last year at ukge they
1:34:32
were like oh we're making a worms miniature game yep never didn't see it yeah is anything happened with that man
1:34:38
I think it was yeah but it was I didn't see it there has it been released I think so has it really so I'm sure I had
1:34:44
it mentioned well advertising was terrible please continue with your story that I so I know him but like yeah
1:34:50
they've just been like license license license but the not being there I get it like you know maybe it's a financial
1:34:56
thing maybe it's a I think the biggest I think the rumor that is going to circulate the biggest online uh that I
1:35:04
heard is everyone complained about Warhammer Fest so hard that they're
1:35:10
avoiding UK events to avoid the backlash I think whether that may be true but I
1:35:16
think that's going to be the biggest um rumor that circulates around
1:35:22
the interwebs is why they weren't there is because of that yeah yeah like I I definitely heard that okay yeah so there
1:35:30
with worms going it's it's maybe it maybe exists um there's worms the board
1:35:37
game but I don't know if if that's the Mantic one if that's like the Mantic one or not but that's still in conjunction
1:35:43
with Team 17 yes oh worms the board game the Mayhem Kickstarter box I feel like I
1:35:49
wanted to back this and then forgot about it because like you say I don't think the marketing was like really in
1:35:55
your face as in your face as maybe it could have been yeah like does anyone remember the uh like I played the worms
1:36:02
game I played the most was Worms 2 and I would never skip the um the team 17 like
1:36:09
logo intro because it had like electric guitar like like a really cool riff and
1:36:16
it was just sort of like gearing up but then the worms were gearing up as well inside of the letters so this gu would
1:36:23
come in it' be like and then it would cut to a worm
1:36:29
like racking a shotgun or like pulling out a minigun or something and ah that like just such a game back in the day me
1:36:35
and my mate my mate had an Amiga so we'd go around and we had it like black and white monitor so we'd play it on that but we'd play it all day like hours just
1:36:43
trying to see the new things just like the one used to be back in the back in the day my mate had and then I played on
1:36:49
my phone was um was it um uh speed ball
1:36:55
oh God yeah was like uh no it was it was speed ball two I think speed ball to yeah and and then you get a really
1:37:01
really good Recreation of that on on a mobile now yeah really good I always think from that was always just even
1:37:06
though all like Carnage going on on the pitch was just the yeah ice cream ice cream in the background get B graes
1:37:13
people but no but it is it is like it's weird Warhammer not being there whatever
1:37:19
the reason yeah I I personally think it it's I I don't know what they're trying
1:37:25
to avoid or what they're trying to do but you are possibly the UK's one of the UK's largest games manufacturers your
1:37:33
company name is Games Workshop this was a UK games Expo but at the end of the
1:37:41
day like for people who know my other channel I'm I'm very much you know going down the 3D printing route you know what
1:37:47
people were playing instead of spearhead onepage rules all day long yeah all day
1:37:54
and there was and there was a onepage rules tournament so you're like well I'm into wargaming what can I play here I
1:38:01
can't play Warhammer I'll go and play what isn't I wouldn't say it's their biggest competitor but it's definitely
1:38:08
the upand comer yeah or one of the major upand comers because you can play it for
1:38:13
free you can get models for free or at least download them for free and then get them printed and everyone was
1:38:19
playing that so you know slow slow clap for for not being in there yeah whilst
1:38:25
everyone's playing everything else it's sad it it on the other hand though it's it showed me a side of the world
1:38:32
where if Warhammer didn't exist and it was a sad
1:38:37
world it was is it sad in a way like because again I go to see what I would
1:38:45
say a colleagues in the industry like the other content creators out there who
1:38:51
are you know it's quite lonely this when it's not you guys oh massiv yeah um you know you're on your own three four days
1:38:58
a week just doing your edity stuff and things like that and crying into my keyboard yeah
1:39:04
exact yeah exactly but yeah so going around to see those people and you congregate around a few places like
1:39:10
Wayland like element like Warhammer it's mainly out the front of Warhammer or like oh I'll meet you by the Space
1:39:16
Marine everyone knows where that is and I felt this year people were wandering
1:39:21
around lost not knowing where like there were people there who like text me to
1:39:28
meet me and and I was like yeah I'll catch up with you and normally you just you knit back to a certain place and
1:39:33
there's people there and that wasn't that place wasn't there because no one was congregating around the Warhammer
1:39:39
cuz there was no the Warhammer yeah it's it's interesting like I um like I I I I
1:39:45
left um thinking like oh I wish I'd had a bit more to do there like is Weir to
1:39:54
like wish like I I went with a different hat on like I was a punter like um you
1:39:59
know pay for a ticket and and wanded around with my girlfriend and I was like oh my God it was so busy and I didn't really see anything that I wanted to buy
1:40:06
I want to go home and eat fish and chips and that's exactly what I did uh and it was great um yeah I kind of left thinking
1:40:13
like oh like I wish I wish I'd worked it CU there wasn't like I guess there wasn't that sort of like loads going on
1:40:21
or or this that and the other like yeah loitered around like element games and chat to people like I you yeah for a bit
1:40:27
going to be quite interesting next year is the fact that you'll potentially have a whole different crew working that element games and the fact that you
1:40:35
they'll probably start pulling the Staffing from what will be their new Birmingham shop oh yeah yeah oh yeah
1:40:40
yeah which is coming very imminently I believe they've got the they've got the manager I don't know if they've started
1:40:45
hiring but yeah so element games Birmingham is going to come soon then I was talking to Ed about he's looking at
1:40:52
a couple of new stores I've suggested Newcastle like go on cuz I that's where I'm from and I'll be like yeah I'll even
1:40:59
take you up and show you around we'll have a night out it'll be a couple of nights out it's like Byron yeah I'm going up with him to show because I know
1:41:04
the area yes um yeah um you know can you can you pay for me for a h he won't
1:41:11
but um but yeah no like I suggest but yeah there's a couple more um he's looking at next and then yeah so that's
1:41:18
an exciting exhib so if you're from Birmingham where the NEC was is
1:41:24
the show was then you're going to have a new element game store soon just imagine how quiet element games
1:41:31
Birmingham would be on the days of the Expo that's when I'd go there or maybe
1:41:36
they wouldn't have any stocks it' all be Nicks or you'd be able to go to element Expo throw a hissy fitted have what you
1:41:44
want and then just drive to the shop and B and go Fair Point yeah yeah yeah like
1:41:49
like like Warhammer Fest where people were leaving the queue driving to stop bought to element to buy yeah people
1:41:56
were they were like yeah I I went shopping at El games CU they for Fest
1:42:01
left the queue for Fest got in their car drove to stock pox it's 20 minutes down the road went to element games bought
1:42:06
the stuff they want then came back to Warhammer Fest yes I heard that the queue was so big apparently people were
1:42:13
picking stuff up and then just and just apparently the shoplifting was pretty crazy the rumors the rumor of the shop
1:42:20
but it was easy like I I was explaining this to someone because it was the queue went away from the shop down
1:42:26
past um golden demon and then back up past the shop and behind it so anyone could be like in the queue going you
1:42:33
know what I'm not going to get this and leave say that out loud and then walk away to go back to the shop but walk
1:42:40
anywhere yeah shoplifter not not through like a not through actively wanting to
1:42:47
steal but in the end shoplifting just threw apathy of going I can't be bothered in the C off with it do you
1:42:52
know what I mean I'm simply steing this because it'd be rude not to the queue is too bit I'm stealing it cuz I cuz I
1:42:59
haven't got the time to wait to buy it you know what it could it could be true that they want to avoid UK events
1:43:04
because we are still winging about it now and if there's one thing the British can do it's complain yeah yeah I heard
1:43:12
some of the que's were so long that when people bought 40K models by the time they got to the front of the queue to buy that model have been moved to
1:43:21
Legends oh brilliant I think I think I'm I'm I'm looking at this from like
1:43:27
Warhammer not being there I'm not I'm I'm you know I'm like I'm like a parent where the where the kids really let me
1:43:34
down I'm not angry I'm just disappointed and the reason I'm disappointed is again
1:43:40
we we've talked about it we've had the luxury of being able to go to other shows on war Hammer's dime ever since
1:43:46
Warhammer Fest every show I've been to the booth at that show was better than
1:43:53
Warhammer Fest so so whatever they've done this is the worst bit whatever they've done since not only have they
1:43:59
fixed it they've made it amazing like even even last year's UK games Expo was better than Fest essn Spiel better than
1:44:06
Fest um adepticon this year how good was that Booth really good yeah insanely
1:44:12
good yeah they had they had models of like they had the helmets didn't they of cuz he had a lot of that lbo we'd seen a
1:44:18
lot of it there as well a lot of it l that was better yeah so everything
1:44:23
they've done and I'm thing as well compared to war hammer wealth loads of stock yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly so but
1:44:31
yeah so so oh damn you Warhammer for not being there I'm so sick and tired of you
1:44:36
blah boycott are we going to Warhammer World mate yeah we got to go yeah we got to go yeah it's
1:44:42
time do it yeah we nearly hit the 2our oh W we' ranted really well for two
1:44:49
hours hello little doggy a she's by yeah see if I can sneak her into warmer world
1:44:55
and pretend she's a service dog that's it yeah got any dark dark sunglasses yeah maybe that might be the key w't she
1:45:02
got daf in dark sunglasses to be fair yeah she would yeah yeah give her
1:45:07
sunglasses got to take her I have to take her in because I carea
1:45:14
yeah oh bless unfortunately I think she's a bit more welln so yeah now now we've ranted about a company let's go
1:45:20
and buy loads of their things yeah I think yeah I think in summary like my point of view it was just a shame not to
1:45:27
see them there CU I think as far as UK events go like they're not doing any of
1:45:33
their own in the UK this year so it would have been nice for it to happen someone was saying uh they were like oh
1:45:38
they're so big now um that they're just doing like the US and Europe um and it's
1:45:45
kind I was like oh yeah and we're not in the EU anymore yeah more truth than that than
1:45:52
you real life like when I Maiden um you know when they've finished having an app and they do another world tour um they
1:45:59
do like one date in the UK and and they could fill any stadium that they wanted
1:46:04
to go in like they could do Nottingham they could do Birmingham they could do London Edinburgh Cardiff whatever but
1:46:10
they're like n we we'll just do Wembley and then we'll s off to South America and you're like oh I Maiden yeah so so
1:46:18
you know maybe maybe wmer are just like hey other countries exist guys it's not all about you and we're like yes is yeah
1:46:27
yeah yeah we we've got we've got quite a lot of privilege haven't we being in the UK as Warhammer fans like pricing is is
1:46:34
expensive but lower here anywhere else sorry like on behalf of everyone
1:46:39
Australia I'm so sorry for you um but I think a lot of that's like their governmental tax and stuff I don't know
1:46:46
but like yeah we do have a lot of Warhammer privilege so again I'm not I'm whilst we're making flippant jokes
1:46:53
and I think based on a few conversations we had this week a lot of this is jokes guys um but yeah like if there's a few
1:47:01
jokes in there like I'm a huge Warhammer fan I'm going to keep buying Warhammer I love Warhammer and I'm really sad that
1:47:08
they weren't at the places that I love going with my fellow Warhammer fans yeah yeah yeah I think that's it I think it's
1:47:14
probably about as best as he could yeah I'm sure there's a business case for not going but we don't care please come back
1:47:20
yeah we don't care that's not our problem our problem be there nice to see them yeah should go war hammer world
1:47:26
let's do it bye everyone thanks everyone see you next time byebye

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