Salute, 40k Vehicles, & Gravitas

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hello I'm PG hello I am manly Patrick I
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don't know if I can match that hello I'm Jeff I'll do an ordinary voice I I reckon I'm getting it so I'm
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probably having a few weeks time so yeah I'll try and do a video like that we're quite a good filming it yeah go on there yeah go on Albert grab it go
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every time I've tried in the past what's doing a gravelly voice
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as well yeah that's the haircut Jeff that's what's getting you confused yeah you're
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confused I think essentially for two weeks I've been um if either of you watched Brooklyn nine
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nine oh on and off yeah so you have Captain Holt who has just the most
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incredible voice ever does yes and there's a scene where him and I don't
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know the actor's name so Captain Hull meets the guy that played David Palmer in 24. oh yeah yeah David president
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David habits or something like that yeah or something and they
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um they try and out voice each other by saying gravitas
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and and they're like no you say like this gravitas um and now I feel like I could join in
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that conversation yeah I mean no one can ever beat Morgan Freeman's voice as hard as they try no we can see that no
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although that guy um for the more than adverts oh did a very good impression yeah he's got to go remember that do you
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ever see the morning yeah they've made the weird TV show with that and he kept putting on voices and it was a bit yeah
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15 years ago so I don't know right then so we've already got off to an interesting start yeah yeah yeah the
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most important news happy birthday to us happy to you not me mine's in October
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yeah the king yeah I don't know if he's gone
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two birthdays but I'm sure we'll find out at some point in time is it actual birthday and then coronation yeah no it
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didn't have like the Queen's coronate as a queen I had a date for a coronation she had like her official birthday which
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was when all the poor guards were not to go trumping around and then she had her actual birthday I don't I don't I don't
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know oh I don't drop in the comments which one it is and I should know because I've done the blunder marching about really speaking
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Yeah well I didn't get an invite to a real birthday so you know maybe not I say uh I think it just got lost in the
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post yeah we did we did too we did do it we did do an intro to a show Once which
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was about it watching the channel
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that's beautiful from Andrew Gibson Andrew Gibson thank you Andrew Gibson Andrew Gibson he'll know what that means
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isn't that lovely that's amazing and then on the back it says Where it All Began oh those two guys that's the first
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show I think yeah probably oh and let's open it up
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and Steve this video got needs the paintings phase 01 21st of
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April 2022 happy birthday to the painting phase from Andrew Gibson also
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known as draw 3.3 sorry I'm ready I'm reading it
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because I'm sort of in this that way all Annie is a doctor
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to actually get him around to watch Interstellar and he can explain it to me because God knows I didn't figure out when I watched it I got the twist but
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the rest of it just didn't make any sense to me I've only watched it the once in the cinema and I felt like I
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missed loads of the like the jokes in the conversations because as is the way with more modern Chris
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Nolan films the background audio of like rocket noises is so loud and then I'm
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like I want to hear the robot make a joke and he's like and you know what for a man who's such
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an amazing filmmaker oh we just can't get sound right yeah like you know he did it again with tenant yeah well the
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fact that he was like the first time he got it wrong was with Bane
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I'll tell you what we'll do we'll put everybody in respirator combat respirators for a big chunk of the movie
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and no one will understand what I'm gonna be about David tell him yeah he loves him yeah
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yeah and then you thought man I went to cinema to see that and I come out and
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mean me and my my good friend who's now moved back to Scotland unfortunately golf when we did the podcast we came out
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I know and what did he think he went I don't know I might need to see it at home with subtitles because I had no idea what anyone was saying yeah tough
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film to try and get you there drowned but anyway happy birthday to us yes happy birthday the painting phase wow
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almost almost over a year I know people have been subjecting themselves to this for a year I know it's mad I didn't yeah
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it's pretty crazy I'm gonna wait to see next year yeah and then we'll have Mark two pegs as well yeah oh talking to PEX
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we went to salutes we did oh yeah that was good I well we pegged quite a few
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people we pegged them well some one of our one of our number actually got pegged as well but we won't mention them
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yes I lost a load during the day so uh this this sneaky guy pegged me when I
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was watching the women in Warhammer uh yeah panel uh chat and like three or
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four people came which I was like sorry sir I don't know if you know this guy should come along and just put a peg on you I was like yeah really I was really
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good and people just like this guy's obviously been really meatless dude obviously I've never seen the
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channel don't know the in-joke but yeah yeah a concerned citizen citizen but
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about 15 pegs you had a lot yeah yeah I definitely put at least one of them
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though those little tiny ones only managed to salvage one so they must be scattered on the floor yeah I've got a few of them at home
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um because Louis sugden came with us and she swapped me uh loads of them little ones for um for one of the bigger ones
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bigger ones she like yeah so many small ones and then yeah you got braids yeah yeah money is going to be redundant yeah
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it's gonna be a bartering system of the size of Peg well speaking of which
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you're a gazillion yeah
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one one of our one of our patrons um get recognized I think was it was it
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me and yourself or imagine yeah I think I think it was you because I did I hadn't seen until I came back
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um and and they recognized me and um and uh I was like would you like a Peg
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and he went oh yes please and I gave him a little Peg with the painting face stamp on
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um and then he was like oh I've I've I was wondering if I was gonna bump into peachy
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um but um can you uh can you have this for the channel and just hand it to this
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massive Peg um so we put some stickers on it yeah yeah apparently it's designed to like
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hold bath towels oh wow something oh that's fantastic isn't it yeah every
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well you know a big thank you to everyone that come and spoke to us because we met some really really lovely people yeah that was amazing it made the
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day Steve yeah will there was a cop I came into contact with a couple of bands there was a lovely Chapel who let us
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saying his cover of white dwarf yeah yeah the first one which was over at the uh the first Rogue Trader Maria's on the
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cover of it yeah and there were some prestigious names on there so I felt like a bit of imposter syndrome yeah I did yeah I thought yeah I don't think
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the prestigious names on there tell us if you want
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um yeah but we met lots of really really nice people it was it was actually a bit overwhelming how many people it was
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super overwhelming I actually got to uh so my I normally have a little shopping list in my head uh of things I'd like to
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see I want to go and see the Paris and get because they've brought out a load of new stuff they've got like you know some new Russian Cavalry I want to get
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some Austrian Cavalry I had a whole list of things I was hoping to get from those guys um and just have a little wander around
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uh I don't think hassle freeware this were there this year I usually get stuff from hassle free they're quite good and then cookie dice do a lot of stuff I
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didn't see Hustle free because I I did a full walk and I never spot there I didn't see him on the um the map either
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um so I don't think they're there this year but I was trying to get to a few places and I just didn't really Center area for like two hours then there was
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the uh women in Warhammer panel and I wanted to stay and you know cheer on subs and hats well we walked about two
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minutes in didn't we we walked we got in which was about two minute walk to the point where we got to and then we stood
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there for what felt like at least about 45 minutes well I was there for two hours yeah yeah I turned around at one
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point there was a queue yeah
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which is very bizarre when you know yeah you know if that if that was your day
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job you know you know being important and famous and meeting people but you know when you just you know you Joe blogs and people are desperate to come
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and say hello it's a really lovely and humbling thing to happen yeah I was like that when we got into the panel with
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Yogscast because as soon as I saw them and I was just I want to say hello to him shake their hands and stuff because I've been watching a fair bit of their stuff recently and some of their battle
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reports are great yeah um really love the stories behind him and I went up to him I was just like oh I really love your stuff and they're like we're about
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to say that about you it was that was a really weird moment of like cool this is weird because you guys are far more
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famous than me yeah but cool I'm glad you're like well I still always met Starstruck because they've got to meet the lovely people from uh broadsword
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yeah yeah Jason found out that uh we've lived about two minutes away from each other at one point for about four years
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which is a bit bizarre oh really yeah yeah and the gentleman's name I can't remember his name unfortunately from
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Vanguard tactics oh Steve Steve yeah he's lovely and arbitrary yeah he's been in for a haircut as well but it was
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lovely to see him down yeah yeah Jeff Barber to the Stars yeah
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it's gonna be like a Mecca now just well there was a guy who said he said you should just turn up next year with your chair and just like give out haircuts
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while just talking 40K for the whole thing yeah I mean shout out to uh to Elliott one of our
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lovely pictures yeah yeah he's a mod on our Discord and Elliot was with us Elliot was with us for the day with me yeah yeah yeah he was lovely company
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yeah we met we met a bunch of our uh Patriot members and wanted around yeah and he was like
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yeah you should have a stand where you just have a barber chair and just cut
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hair all that what's the rate of Barber Cuts wow how quickly can you get through a haircut well it depends on where it
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depends on the shape of the hair yeah if you have your head shaved for charity yeah let's go to the painter
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phase and just like I've got and he's there going oh it's like me just like you know well I've got it I don't mean to be rude but you know I have to give
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up a Saturday to go to salute I don't think it'd be going to charity yeah it's gonna say how much is it I
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wonder how much a booth is at salute yeah how much if I could cover me booth
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and see if I could cover me today's wages a lot yeah yeah but I always say um wake up signed autograph yeah there
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you go side photo yeah I want to sign autograph now yeah yeah
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have me name and then I sign it exactly the same over the top of it again yeah weylands were lovely they were really
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nice and they were really they were really kind and generous with this which was really really nice to meet them yeah
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I um I managed to pull myself away at the last second from not buying the big starter box for Masters of the Universe
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I must have walked back to it about three or four times yeah yeah at one point I think the thing that killed it
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in the end was me going oh I'd have to carry that all the way back to the yeah car and grab the underground yeah so in
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the end I think that was practicality one though so I think in the end yeah that was in the back of my mind yeah I
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didn't buy anything there although so yeah Oh no I got a grass mat you got them on that yeah yeah I was a dad in
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the uh the the school I take Charlie too it was just talking and he was like oh you know I'm trying to get all of some
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grass mats or some maths some gaming mats and stuff because they do lots of different sizes and deep coat that do them and I didn't realize that Weyland
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did them as well yeah it was like a custody they do everything and
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that they had a few um deep cut didn't have the ones that he wanted and then I went to Weyland and
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they had one that I would have got but yeah the thing that he wanted was just too big because it was like the three by
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three size he wanted and they had like six by four which just used bigger than a table uh dining room table so yeah
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sorry mate before I forget a shout out to uh exit 23. yes well um bring up the
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bag in a second yeah 23 games um they're lovely guys yeah really lovely people they do all the turbo dog
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um stuff in the UK but they gave us some a little care package as well which was a lovely bag
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yeah they were really nice goodies so we have uh it looks like a really cool game
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actually called Relic blades this is like a little add-on uh solo and Cooperative Adventure so you can play on
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your own yeah sounds like my kind of game because no one wants to play with it and then we have a two-player battle set which I was having to read at the
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back of the uh box and you get quite a lot in that it's crazy it's really heavy yeah yeah it's like eight metal
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Miniatures inside of it yeah I've seen that at the time and I really liked the cover I like the saracen quite looking uh human on the
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yeah it's cool cool a little like make your own color palette for color oh
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that's cool oh that's a really clever idea and it's Simplicity but that's really cool here
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we've got Weird Science we'll never read of this because this looks Mega fantasy Adventure game expert magazine sounds
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good wow I've only just discovered these today because Pat just told me about them uh and then show me Wizards some
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lovely art in there as well wow that's like proper classic art that is yeah just a load of little gubbins we've got
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some turbo dork peachy keen oh yes yeah
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he gave me that and was like yeah it's got peachy on it
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now discovered uh some stickers
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bases a beer mats excellent more stickers and then we've got some dice
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and some Miniatures as well like look I can't tell if I'm meant to be blood Bowl miniatures but there's like looks like
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the guy from Mad Maxi wears the pilot the the pilot oh yeah yeah gyrocopter
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and she's called dirty or is he he's called Dirty yeah and then we have chainsaw so just a last running forward
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with a big chainsaw ready to like cut someone up seeming very happy about it that's a lovely that's one of their own miniature style as well isn't it exit
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23. they're lovely back of course which yeah she's got him
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yeah she's got a cigarette and all look she's got extra written all over it or um even like all Arch she's got like
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yeah Vibes uh yeah there is these will make great little uh just characters for
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our also got a little dagger two daggers at the back yeah she's being sneaky about it hence the name dirty she's a
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dirty fighter makes perfect sense extra 23 pins as well nice and they've sent us some uh some
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turmer dog paints uh previously as well yeah very very kind of them all right
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that's very awesome I use the laser face on my uh vansars so I like to try it it's not the name of one of the bad guys
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in yeah taser face taser face definitely gonna be giving peachy Kino
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go that's for sure metallic paint definitely intrigued in that yeah excellent excellent so yeah I really um
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a salute if I'm being honest wasn't as big as I thought it was going to be you know you know because I think you know I
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haven't watched like you watch the videos for adapter con don't you and you realize America is just like on another day another scale but I've got to be
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honest I really enjoyed myself it was nice to have a walk around and it was nice to like I say meet all the lovely
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yeah all the lovely viewers and stuff in a few years I think uh 2018 was the last
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time I went uh didn't make it to 2019 and I think it was just because there was a bunch of events going on and then
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obviously the Games Workshop ever used to represent Harry yeah kind of uh I think one of the local
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stores would have a stand there like there was like a retail stand uh honestly I'm trying to get my head back
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it was like was it a trade store now or was it an actual Workshop store but um we used to send like a we had a thing
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called Sportsman social where you pay like so much a month and you could use the gym you could go to like Cinema trips and stuff and every year they'd do
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like a coach to salute all right um so your ticket of five pound a month would pay for a coach on the ticket to salute
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which is amazing when you think about it's like a fiver and I get a coach down to London and a ticket into salute that
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was where most of the people would go um so you'd just see other staff wandering around buying things and yeah
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having a good time but I don't really think we ever did like participation participation games or like full-on sort
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of events and stuff it was just like a retail stand if I remember rightly oh there we were in there nearly six hours
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and it flew by I think yeah two hours started talking and just
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engaging with loads of patrons and people was great then and I hung around to watch the women in Warhammer panel
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which was good yeah so obviously we had sugs and hats there and Rach we we've had on the show so whether that will be
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out that'll be out before that'll be out before this year yeah um and then there was uh K legs who I'm doing a charity
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event in August because she's running I think for mine she does every year so me and silk are joined on that and then we
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had uh Steph uh who very big into cosplay uh she was there and then a lady
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was she the lady dressed up as the dark Elder yes that's right yeah yeah it was a good costume although there was a
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previous post where she was sneaking up on a tanith and I don't agree with that I don't think that's possible I've read
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too many gaunts ghost novels too she walked in past me and she walked in past me and Pat and I said when she leaves
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later on since you'll have 25 people had changed with her
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should be dead yeah yeah and then uh forgive me I can't remember
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that name doesn't I can't get the name to to brain because brain's not engaged but there was a lady that was introduced in the panel as well she was really good
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fun yeah it's done a bit of stand-up comedy and uh when she was there as well that was great so listen to them and
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straight after I was like oh I've got another look around it was like literally straight after that I was like oh you're on the panel and I was like oh God yeah so it was like Yeah Bang Bang
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so chatted to people for about two hours then there was like about two hours worth of these panels which was good fun
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yeah James was there as well from seed Studios it was nice yeah that was weird to see so you'd get like a guest in
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who's traveled a big distance and then in less than a week meeting up with them again yeah a little bit bizarre he was
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feeling quite happy that he didn't have a stall this time and could just wander around yeah yeah which is nice all
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though to be faced I can just get to wander out that I walked away and was well gone nearly an hour come back
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[Laughter] good job on this one yeah yeah I mean
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it's it's interesting that um being because I get I've been to two shows now chill con and salute
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um and I felt like a chill con I don't know we were a pro maybe because
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it was a quieter or not necessarily quite smaller yeah
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um show um and it's up North so less densely populated maybe who knows I've
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got someone in Sheffield wasn't there yeah apparently we've done for you very well in Sheffield that's now when no one approaches it's a it's a Peyton phase uh void we
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just we just don't get in there yeah yeah but like people came up to us that's because Mikey's got it all sewn up yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he won the
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competition Mikey yeah Mikey hellstorm's got it all in his bag um yeah I feel like comparatively we
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were approached less so we could wander around a bit more yeah yeah yeah but um yeah it's interesting to to think
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that if I if we're going to somewhere it will be like right I may not get to see it
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yeah yeah because I'll just I want to stand and chat talk to people which is cool yeah I mean that's what all I like
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talking and sharing stories and stuff like that so I did get a little bit of timing at the end of a brief wander
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around but it wasn't a full wand around like I'd normally do with salute and stuff yeah but I can see your point I mean with with chill con because there
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was like a couple of rooms you you got to see more even though there was less stands yeah you got to
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see more because there was less stands there's probably less people where's salutes a lot of people a lot stabbed it is quite overwhelming as well so when
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you walk through those doors you're like where do I start and like yeah like in previous years when I've been like Duncan normally mate Steve you we just
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literally start one side and work our way around and then inevitably get dragged off because we meet someone from like workshop and start talking yeah
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then there'll be lunch and be like where did we get to I can't remember then we'll just start again the same place yeah and work our way around again yeah
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I used to go to that one that was a Sheffield Hallam University quite a bit I can't remember what it was called but that was quite a good one that's not the
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triples is it oh it was triples yeah that's exactly what was called yeah
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the new version of it yeah I quite used to quite like that one I've been that one two or three times I think yeah yeah
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so it was good though yeah update I'm gonna ask what was your uh uh highlights
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and your your sort of like oh low lights other the
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um oh highlights meeting fans of the show yep and uh talking to people it was
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awesome um easily the full-on Highlight you know
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what the thing that was funny about that was people going I'm sorry to stop you and I go it's no I I'm really pleased
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because you know we see how many people you know we see how many people watching episodes and we see the Subscribe but
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their numbers aren't they and ultimately yes our interaction is a number of lenses
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yeah and to see somebody from the other side of that lens who's yeah he's great you know and it was really and I was you
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know people go I'm so I've never felt I never felt upset that only stopped me a vagina that was really really enjoying
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getting some chat to chat people it was lovely yeah I think it's yeah humanizes the whole thing yeah
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um and uh because I spend so much time in this room
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um either filming or editing or whatever um and like you say lots of its numbers and I think that's why I really like
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Discord because you get on the voice chat and play games
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with people and that's really really good um but then meeting people IRL
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um and and shaking hands and chatting chatting was awesome yeah really really
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good yeah yeah it's nice but you know I say putting faces to names and sometimes you recognize the name a lot because you see it pop up and there was like stuff
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on like the twitch Channel when I used to be on warmer TV and they'll be like Oh I'm thankful 79 you're just like oh I
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recognize that he's like you probably don't recognize you recognize the name but on the twitch I used to be this is like yeah I used to see it always pop up all the time you're asking questions and
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stuff so yeah weirdly um I don't know why but his name on Twitch always came in green and I always just remember
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seeing like whenever you introduced himself in my head in my Minds I was just a green name that yeah thank all 79
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on it but my biggest low point was I want all I want my minimum was some
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accelerant and super glue and I didn't get him because I've got a load of B1 battle droids waiting to be built at home yeah just like staring again better
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than me Roger Roger build me and I'm just like come on I can't I've got no grueler man I did have an actual part of
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glue and I was like yes I've still got some glue cool solid it was just solid it was like not been opened do you want
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I do have some Gorilla Glue that I bought a while back I just need to find it and in short term I might take it in
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tonight yeah and then if I can't find it I'll take it with you glue on the channel straight away cheers Pat you're
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the best uh so I can get these B1 back what was yours what was your probably your low pit was probably just the fact
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that bless you The Brave Little Soldier that you wear you were just in the right Old State I was I am still still a bit
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of a mess um so and you drove all the way down and back so fed used to you yeah I mean I
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made you get the tube because I didn't want to drive through Central London yeah no it had to be fair it wasn't
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painful was it no the tube was fine no absolutely I mean my existence is quite painful at
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the moment um I have I think I got like a a covid adjacent sort of
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viral cold or whatever um and then that wiped me out for like a week and a
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half a week and a half and I lost my voice spoilers um this is actually much improved the
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best you've been yeah yeah for for a while um now I just yeah sound Gravelly and
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manly um finally I hope it stays like this
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forever I'd like to get better but the voice could stay yeah yeah apologies
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um um and then I woke up one morning and I was like I like my fever's gone
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my throat doesn't hurt anymore and then I coughed and I was like oh that was
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that was painful um and I was like oh no chest pains
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that's not good so call the doctor uh and I have something or they think I have something called pleurisy oh wow
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which is the tissue in between your lungs and your ribs that like I don't
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know separates it yeah uh gets inflamed so if I don't breathe or move it's fine
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okay chimney lately yeah oh no he's got
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pleurisy um yeah and my voice is a mess God bless
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you every one of us yeah so it was your low Point not getting around to see everybody yeah not getting around to see
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anybody not getting to see the Perrys because I wanted to chat to the Bears because uh I've sent a message a couple of people back on the channel uh and I
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don't think the Perrys are super sort of not they're sociable people but not super sort of Internet social yeah and
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getting a message to them via Facebook or whatever I don't think they have like Instagram or Twitter uh so I was like oh
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I'll see if I can invite them in person send them a letter yeah I might have to just do that just go to them yeah yeah
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just send a letter to their uh to their home address um I might just ask Dave Andrews because he sees him a fair bit and just like can
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you ask him if they want to come on uh but that was them and I wanted to go to Crooked dice because I like going to
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Crooked dice because they they do like a range of like um sci-fi fantasy models that are based off TV shows and they have this yeah
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it's called seven TV which I've played many many times uh and I want to have a look at some of their new V Troopers and
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they've done like some Flash Gordon stuff as well oh yeah I remember you telling me about that and then I never
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spotted them when I was there damn it yeah so they might not have been there yeah they might not be there Carl might have been yeah not having a might have
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been ill I don't know what was your low Point Jeff drop it off for that hot dog all over the floor I think probably oh
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yeah I just made like the most mess ever near the bar yeah yeah and then and then
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I had sauce all over my hands and then people kept coming over and going nice to meet you at one point at one point I
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had to go shake his hands and parts like that hello because that's just like a bleep mess and then and then I'm on my
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hands and knees napkins they were like right this man's covered in food and
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I've got the plague like who would you rather shake hands with I've got a sticky fingers yeah yeah it was yeah
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like that hang on a second oh laughing hurts
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um oh no that must be so Soul Christian as well because I don't think I it took ages before I got food so I've managed
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to get it yeah it's about three o'clock yeah uh and I was just like I'm so hungry because I think yeah because I've done these panels and like so was like
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we really need food I was like I've not even thought about food and it clicked as soon as you mentioned it feels like I'm really hungry yeah and then yeah
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it's okay just to get something I was a bit like that I was well three quarters of the way around and I thought oh I'm starting to feel a little bit mildly
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dizzy yeah I was going to go down to the you know they've got two two uh events down was the mouse the one for the
28:30
marathon yeah yeah I was going to go around there and see if they could put me in one of them big silver blankets oh yeah yeah laid out I think you just sign
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up for the marathon glucose
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yeah I think being being ill wasn't necessarily a low point I mean it was harder to talk to people yeah
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um I was okay I didn't actually buy anything um when I was well that's a lie I bought
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a uh adrenal from whaling games oh okay yeah um so that was that was okay but
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um I I wanted to see something and go I have to have that but I didn't have that
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moment yeah yeah I looked in in my DMs there's a few people on the day that said oh if you're stopping by come come
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to the stand and say hello and stuff like that and I didn't get a chance to look at them until after the event but I want to go a chance to see them anyway
29:22
yeah because I didn't get a chance to move around one of the main one of the main highlights of getting the things was we didn't even pay for something but
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someone brought us hobnobs yeah oh yeah crack them open yeah I can't remember the gentleman's name sadly but he was
29:33
everyone I love it how everyone opens up and go your Big Biscuit selection is terrible everyone's like really okay I
29:41
think the biscuit selection here is out literally outstanding these are like high quality little cookies they are
29:48
just amazing you're judging it by the packet not by The Taste yeah yeah there you go
29:55
um we were given a game that's under the hobnobs yes cradle Studios from Weyland
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yeah um altered carbon fight Drome that was
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cool it was like a two player beat each other up card game and you've played that haven't you I played it with
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uh with my partner last night and I was murdered twice nice nice yeah she pummeled you into the ground yeah yeah
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oh no she you said earlier you got decimated so only ten one one tenth of you was injured yeah yeah it's probably
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your lungs maybe yeah yeah sadly we won't be uh we won't be at War the Warhammer one next week when we're going
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there no I've got to be honest well that sounds an awful the only thing I would want to go for would would be to
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see 10th and they're going to show it on the tally they're going to show it on the computer on on the announcements
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anyway so I like if I was to go as a customer I'd want to go to see the staff
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and the creatives yeah but they don't go so it's like what am I doing with my
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three days or they do go and apparently it's just like a little black blanket and there's just like hello I need to
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meet you just
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I think a couple are going but not all so like like a studio staff that make like the games or like design the models
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I think someone someone said um that you pay to go but then if you
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want to do yeah laser tag kill team yeah more money for that yeah if you want to enter the competitions so not only
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buying a ticket but you've got to buy a ticket for the ticket that you bought yeah because Suggs is going I believe and
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she's done three days so if you if you want to enter golden demon you have to pay twice oh right okay so you've got to
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pay to enter golden to the middle yeah you've got to pay you know I just don't do it as one ticket why it's worked for
31:40
like years I don't get it I I can understand
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separating it out because I can't please explain how you can understand separating now when it used to be one
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ticket and it was fine was it the last the last golden demon sold out but if you bought a ticket and
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you didn't want to enter golden demon you would and but you still wanted to attend you were taking a painting entry
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away from someone by just wanting to attend the event yeah
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so this way if you want to enter the painting you can and if you just want to
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enter as a I mean like go and as a punter and look at stuff you can but
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you're not taking a painting entry away from someone yeah because that was my understanding yeah when I first met as a
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customer I went I into golden demon and the golden demon Q was smaller and a lot of people used to buy a ticket to
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join that queue and then enter something that not bothered painting very well so I can see that side of it just brought a
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mini along as like yeah again yeah to get on the shorter Kia that's what some people used to do I think that was like a tactic yeah I should have brought
32:54
Craig but someone sent me a picture of a a towel stealth suit and it was just a
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base nice and that got entered into golden demon what was it a really good base it was a decent base yeah yeah
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that's brilliant yeah um because the thing is I must be honest I'm getting quite hyped for 10th
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um because I'm decided to try and unlearn Ninth and I'm gonna really try and throw myself into 10th when it comes
33:18
out especially with it being a bit simpler so I can have another go and teach him Aladdin yeah yeah so but so if
33:24
they decide oh if you if you were right a 10th will be sold there or whatever as I've been because you can play it there
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but you can play it though but you know that'll be like you know 10 Deep at the bar owner to try and yeah probably you
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know I can probably do that Expo as well yeah so if you don't make it to the Fest they'll be their Expo teacher because
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that's what we did in previous years we went to the UK games Expo and ran because I ran 40K games all right I
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remember one one uh occasion I'd like there was like some Marines intercessors of the death God ancestor said that it
33:53
came in no not indomit is whatever the set was um dark middle no dark Imperium I can't
33:58
want to say dark Millennium but that was an old yeah dark comparing was eight wasn't there so yeah that was like the first time it moved from like the old
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standard rules to like the new rules it's currently using and I remember talking to a guy who's like playing the
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game was like have you played I'm very much a seventh edition kind of
34:18
guys okay well let's let's give a go see how you get on and then we get it we did it it was playing it and I was like how
34:23
did you find it that's really easy actually I really enjoyed that he was like I'm a bit sort of like I don't like the idea of like age of Sigma because
34:29
it's a bit sort of like dumbed down and you know I've heard all stuff about it I was like it's exactly the same rule system but you enjoyed it yeah oh
34:37
oh I was like yeah this this is pretty much the same mechanic as as age of Sigma so all that information you're
34:44
hearing from the Internet is is just nonsense because you've clearly enjoyed the game yeah and it was like though there was some bare rules to learn and
34:51
then there's all those extra like the data sheet cards it's got more complex so this is the thing that really um I
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guess has bothered me with with what ninth is you you the intention was and
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same for age of Sigma yeah is you you make a simple real system four pages long ish that's what it was
35:10
um a bit like Legion you have some basic rules and then your data card or your water scroll has the information yeah
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for your unit what could have and should have happened is those data cards were like printed and were put inside the
35:23
boxes when you when you bought them bit like Star Wars Legion yeah yeah because Star Wars Legion all their rules there's so many games to do that isn't it well
35:29
yeah their rules are constantly updated and there's an annoyance a bit and I've said before whether um not the I might
35:34
have said it on um the Discord actually um that they have points on the Star Wars Legion cards those points have
35:41
become so exempt now and they change so radically if you ever get a Star Wars Legion box set with figures ignore the
35:46
points all the rules okay they'll never change what the different special rules mean and what the actual things that the guys can do but the points have become a
35:53
bit sort of like they might as well just not be there yeah yeah but the rules will always be updated and changed and
35:58
they're free and you go into website they're free what you buy in the box has all the rules for your unit that you've bought yeah which makes a lot of sense
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and the idea was to copy that mentality and because Fantasy Flight very good at like you have a card and everything you
36:10
need to know is on that card but they start making these rules for the data cards but then they're like the writers
36:16
are like oh I want to add this Rule and I want to add that rule so then they'll have like a half a page for like one war
36:21
scroll or data sheet and then there'll be like two pages for another it's like oh you're missing the point just keep it to what that should have been the brief
36:27
was like your rules cannot exceed this size well this is what to be fair to the matentha really trying to score well
36:32
that's what I hope they do yeah because they were like because there used to be like I think there's like Well if you really go for about those five variants
36:38
of bolts or isn't it yeah and they've gone it's now just all reduced down to I bolt it and it does different things
36:44
depends on how you're trying to fire it yeah yeah and you know and I think that's quite cool you know the thing to what like there's some I hope remain
36:50
like the um the sergeant for the snipers has got a unique one okay or something a
36:55
bit different which is quite useful for the snipers and it looks a bit different so we think I hope that one stays
37:00
because it'll have no bearing because it'll be on these datas yeah on these data cards anyway he's the only one that carries that basically carries that sort
37:07
of ball yeah so hopefully that doesn't get doesn't get moved but I think generalizing we're going oh you know if
37:13
you make them with a site on the this time so if you make them with a box instead of a magazine they're this type
37:18
and then the Magazine's another one and now they've gone now we're just gonna and I've got to be honest it it stays to
37:23
have all the really interesting flavor but I also think you know I'd I'd sacrifice flavor over just sort of rules
37:29
that make some are more yeah palatable is probably the terminal I apologize by the way like every show
37:35
we've been on so far I've had a sniffle and I think it's just a fever so I'm sorry I have to keep wiping my nose yeah
37:41
so that would have been my main reason for going to see to go into war humberfest would be 10th but like I say
37:47
they're going to show us all on the Saturday morning anyway so exactly all right yeah yeah is it the announcements
37:53
at like nine yeah pretty good I'll be at a wedding then oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
37:59
it's not my cup of tea I've been to games days before I used to find it actually this is why I like salute
38:04
because there's so much variety yeah yeah a lot of games that you've you've seen it it's all Workshop uh and then
38:12
yeah you could go and talk to the designers about how they go about sculpting Miniatures or like talk to
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like the senior makers about how they go about and there's usually like some kind of demo or something going off so like when the Army painters were there would
38:23
have armies and people asking the questions what what's your key to getting loads of things done fast there's like some value to yeah to that
38:29
but more than one day just seems a bit Overkill because it's like pretty much very if you've seen it it's not huge and
38:35
if you can't see all that in one day and most of what I'm a big chunk of what you're going to see in one day you can
38:41
see in your local games actually oh yeah that's it where's sport yeah they used to have really good seminars because I've seen yeah I've been to two of them
38:48
that were being going right back into um Andy Chambers yeah yeah and um and he
38:54
used to because he's been he had quite a bit of a showman personality and he used to put um seminars on and they were
38:59
really quite interesting because back then they could talk about things yeah that were eight nine ten months did do
39:05
that for a long time they'd like show things that they were just working on that was like months and months and months away from being released because
39:11
remember Andy Chambers saying the really the really funny one which I thought was cool was Andy Chambers have been desperately trying to update the Rhino
39:17
from their really original Rhino and he kept saying I want to do the Rhino and they were going well the problem is we
39:23
don't want to update the Rhino because it sells really well why would we on update the Rhino everyone still buys it
39:30
they're the most use most used tank in Space Marines Army why would we update it but then they but they said we tell you
39:37
what's really out of date and is metal and we need to try and reduce that is we really need a new predator and
39:43
apparently they're being counter signs off and went yeah we could do with a new predator and he went lo and behold I got my new Rhino yeah yeah you need the
39:50
chassis because you need the same assassin so you've got it in the end anyway oh that's good I saw um
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the in vehicles and drop pods they've yeah changed the seats so you can have
40:02
primaries firstborn I don't think primaris will get I get the impression primaris aren't going to get back to
40:07
getting a rhino or a Razorback but everything else I think they'll be able to get because at the end of the day 10
40:13
first ball Marines being in the back of orino looks utterly ridiculous the idea is trying to get 10 prime Morris at the back I always had um it's troop
40:21
transport related uh I always had this big bug band I remember talking to a couple of the designers about it and they tried to explain it and there was
40:27
like a lot of head scratching and thinking like we should probably look at it drakari right you have a squad of 10 yes switches you
40:33
can have a squad of Five Witches if you wanted to it depending on or even Capital Warriors or racks you have
40:40
Raiders which can carry 10 guys and you have um Venoms which can carry uh Five Guys
40:46
so ten or five um the thing that I used to find really
40:51
annoying is rhinos or Razorbacks could carry six right so that's right a squad in it and then like a character
40:59
um and I think reiners could carry 12 so you could put a squad in it and then put like a carrot if you wanted to because you could attach characters to units or
41:05
even if it was just separate they could be separate but be inside of it do correct me if that's wrong I do believe that stuff Rhino's ten and land Raiders
41:13
are 12. I'm thinking Chimera sorry I'm thinking oh sorry yeah yeah yeah it used to be you could have like your commissar
41:18
in there that's right yeah something else if you wanted to um and I was like why why can't Raiders
41:25
be 11. because then you've got a character option you got you can have a character because they're all hanging
41:30
off anyway yeah yeah uh because most like the witches and stuff like hang on by the chains and like like Chuck things that people said with me and squeal and
41:36
stuff um and the reason why I had this was whenever I did when we did it for the armies for the uh the studios when we
41:43
did it for armies for ourselves you'd have like a Raider Squad of 10 Raider Squad of 10 Venom Squad of five leader
41:48
walking why is the leader always walking why is
41:54
he not in it is that where you have to buy a venom for himself no I don't want to buy another massive kit to just carry
42:00
one guy can't he just join the crew seeing 10th um they're going back to the the just joined squads thank God so I
42:06
wonder whether they might have to have so whether the laptop or bear I have a better rethink on the uh on the dark Elder it'd be nice because it just makes
42:13
sense because he's just like it's like Orcs of the old Brooks I've got an orc truck you could pour as many Orcs onto
42:19
it and anything that fitted on stayed on I think just move it around
42:28
we're like What were the rules for that could you do it like really yeah you did
42:33
it as well it looked like a bit of a balloon Tetris yeah yeah but obviously you've got to
42:40
pick it up and move it came off would have to take a dangerous drain check I think or like some injury or something
42:45
but well to tell you what though it works though because you know them they're saying oh well you not the fair
42:51
Prime Irish Marines can now go in land Raiders and immediately as soon as like oh wouldn't mind a land reader and I
42:57
thought I'm so easily is so easy yeah yeah yeah yeah the only thing is that I
43:02
went on eBay and everybody can tell it's like oh myself oh really is you think it's the same
43:09
with drop pods as well yeah I've always thought they look really cool never had it I've never played one
43:15
because I've never played them I never had them for my original space Wolf Army and then when my son started collecting
43:21
primaris they were off limits so I I don't know I don't need because primaries couldn't get anything
43:27
and he already collected he only collect primaris yeah so um but he is he able to change your heart recently with
43:33
Centurion well he um now the fact that they've basically gone there is no real firstborn and primaris anymore as such
43:40
yeah and he's starting to Yeah scratch his chin he always liked the he always liked the centurions but was a bit put
43:46
off by the idea that they were first born and not prioris but it's just to helmet you see really in it yeah I know
43:51
it's just a helmet a war suit and that's it and that's it and they don't want that and they've got a unique helmet anyway so yeah and now the fact that
43:58
they can then they're now going to be able to fit inside the promo the primaris uh
44:03
Vehicles yeah so I think it's like three centurions inside a vehicle yes three three of them
44:10
can get in wow yeah I want to see that I want to see that happening because you're all on the knees like yeah give
44:16
us a minute imagine the disembarkation there's like loads like yeah this land reader pulls off the doors open it's
44:22
like give us a minute mads yeah there's like an airport like that too come on
44:27
you know the funny thing you know the absolute reverse of the absolute reverse of that I would see the ram I wanted the
44:32
in the middle of the night I was waiting to go out on a helicopter in Northern Ireland and I once in a helicopter come
44:37
in the fastest I've ever seen a helicopter landing it literally just came in like that and it landed and it
44:43
weirdly which is something you never normally see um the the Gunners door was closed and
44:49
it landed and the pilot got out and literally slid the door open and as he
44:54
slid the door open soldiers fell out oh God where they literally were trying to get that me because the army air code
45:01
rules are a guideline you know just stuffed it and as I sat there watching
45:06
and these guys like two fell out and then he started getting out and there's more and more it's like a clown car he's just getting in on the other side oh wow
45:13
and then right in the middle of it was a guy and a dog was a dog handler just cut out I think they take six he was about
45:19
12 in it oh wow yeah so it's like reverse I just opened the tournament
45:24
like like the videos of um Japanese bullet trains at rush hour where they
45:30
put white gloves on so it's respectful but they just published I was wondering
45:36
where I thought I wonder where though like the co-pilot actually got out of this helicopter when it landed and picked all these guys up at Naturally do
45:43
that and then try and close the door yeah yeah that's uh the complete
45:48
opposite right around your luggage for all it is much in yeah yeah oh wow yeah
45:55
oh interesting I didn't know that yeah it was great yeah so the the reverse of
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the uh the red the reverse of the Centurion problem yeah yeah yeah that may be the way that should be the way he
46:06
couldn't let you know no goes um it takes Centurion two tens to disembark yeah yeah yeah because all three turns
46:12
if you're getting three in there one comes out one turn one comes out the next now people would hate us for that if that was a rule
46:18
um you could have a stratagem which was called greased Century which is where you paid extra for you paid to send for
46:24
them I mean yeah you could argue like I'll Grinch you could fit six organs in a
46:29
chimera because yeah they count as two humans they're definitely bigger than two humans oh right um so that's why I
46:35
had a capacity of 12 even though you could fit six organs it comes a set of three so yeah I suppose that makes sense yeah I was about to think do you think
46:43
it was five or two was three I think it's three um but yeah it makes sense I think the problem being is you've had to do this
46:49
with the centurions only because looking at that photograph I've seen the other day of um Marines getting out of a of
46:56
primaris Marines near a drop pod yeah and then they were being led I don't think he was meant to have been in the
47:01
drop pods because I think that's even a step further on but they had that new um librarian
47:08
um and he's enormous yeah I think he must be getting on for the size of
47:16
whether he's starting to get like Centurion size you know oh right two years time Centurion will be about the
47:22
size of an action figure and your Dreadnought will be the same joy toy yeah you will be that way and
47:28
you'll just yeah your Dreadnought will just be the joy toy one yeah and you'll be like okay in this video we're
47:35
painting a warlord Titan and it's the size of a house yeah yeah so we're going
47:41
down to the local car sprayers yeah yeah I want to please the anyone that likes
47:46
real war games Miniatures that are small women oh
47:57
scale creep if you don't like large figures like that I'll tell you what surprised me
48:03
um at salute and this is just my own ignorance because I've never played historical war games
48:10
um was how small some of the Miniatures were but yeah because that's because
48:16
they're for real world Gamers how just ignore in that um
48:21
how massive the tables were yeah so where we were stood initially um
48:27
when we were chatting to people behind us there was one like a boat yeah like a
48:33
naval game or something and I was like who has a table like that there was one
48:39
further down for something medieval and it was like you know I whinge about trying to play six by four and it's like
48:44
you know yeah you'd have to buy a house with a garage just for your war game so like warhammer's interesting in the
48:49
models are quite big but the table isn't comparatively it's quite small yeah yeah yeah so I mean from experience of doing
48:56
stuff like that um 6x4 is really too small so when we mean like Duncan or Steve of uh one of
49:03
many Steve's uh hi Steve Steve oh yes of course
49:09
um when we've done wargaming like six by four for like black powered it's just too small yeah you have to reduce your movement a little we have to reduce the
49:15
range a little bit to make it a little bit more of an engaging game that's why you use the floor so it becomes a bit my floor Hammer you move like your tables
49:20
and chairs anyway oh right yeah whereas if you go to events and you see like the reenact they reenact Waterloo or Quattro
49:26
or whatever yeah um it's across like 18 foot by about like eight foot and you just thought I
49:32
cut I can just about reach three foot so how am I moving those things in the middle and there's no like broom handles like World War II RAF yeah uh um
49:40
organizers um so I saw a Gettysburg game once and there was like a bit of a hollow in the
49:45
middle so you could get in there was like a bit of a gap on a table so you can walk through yeah but whenever
49:51
someone got to this Gap you just moved to the other side uh of the board uh it was just because it was a walkway for a
49:58
human to get past oh right so like this void was like it wasn't really a void yeah um if that made sense so sometimes
50:05
you'd have you have to deal with that as a situation but yeah to get like really cool historical refights being done you
50:13
you needed huge huge ones yeah most of them I mean a lot of people like I'm a big fan of 28 mil uh and that's
50:20
what like a lot of companies Focus their efforts on with Miniatures there's a lot of people out there like 20 mil which is
50:26
the airfix scale so you've got like the Perry scale and Lord of the Rings 20 mil tends to be like 172 scale so
50:32
it's like most plastic kits you get from like Tamiya airfix and airfix figures are like yeah 20 ml and then you get the
50:39
15 mil yeah smaller and Flames of water yeah 50 ml is quite big for a long time
50:46
and where it could still be I don't like painted stuff that small but it means you can get more stuff on the table top
50:52
you don't have to have such a bigger table uh yeah because flames of war is tanks yeah well and infantry though
50:58
they're 15 mil infantry as well they all they move around like trades they're on a little plate so there's like five of
51:05
them on like on a plate but um well the the rumor is that um and it is a rumor
51:11
and that's no that's not what we normally do on the show but titanicus is getting um blended into epic one
51:16
surprise me I mean they're gonna bring epic back um teeny tiny Marines I think there's always been other cars because
51:22
aeronautica and titanicus are the same scale so if you then make human troops
51:27
or human troops physical troops um then you could your so this is a big
51:33
thing for me it's like I don't really play games that have one use uh so like blood Bowl
51:39
um if I don't really play Blood Bowl because once I've done these guys I can't use many other games I can't use
51:44
an age of Sigma but if I play war cry or no Commander I can use those in 40K you can use this and kill team so I like to
51:50
buy things and get multiple use out of it yeah aeronautica I was like it's cool but I'm just buying planes and never do
51:56
anything with it and I've got mates that play it and they like X-Wing so I used to play that so I didn't need to buy
52:01
extra instructions yeah I've added ideas I thought it'd be really cool to get some Titans and paint them but I was
52:07
like if they ever do epic figures because I know aeronautica and Titanic are the same scale yeah then it it will
52:13
make sense that the Miniatures that they do for epic if they do it would fit in with that scale set so then you're not
52:20
able to build a whole new set of Titans a whole new set of vehicles you can just reuse the stuff that you've already made
52:25
which makes a lot of did you ever play did you ever play epic originally and it's the original form it's meant to be
52:31
great I played Space Marine which was the well what preceded it I played adeptus Titanic is the original
52:37
which was just Titans and eventually brought like I remember having some metal Marines and then they brought our
52:44
game called uh Space Marine which had like Orcs Eldar and Marines in it and then eventually became epic 40K and I
52:51
played all of those iterations I had loads of Epic somewhere in the Attic I'm sure I've got some boxes a lot of those tanks don't started life out in Epic who
52:58
that eventually moved up to being forged well for yeah normal size but started out oh teeny tiny yeah cool grew up and
53:06
went upwards yeah [Music] it's pretty much black powder yeah I I
53:12
like it I thought it was quite a good game actually to see yeah someone mentioned that when we were talking about on the last show about black powders I was like that sounds
53:17
remarkably like well master's like yeah it's exactly basically a game system in just a few tweaks here and there yeah because you've got an order system
53:23
haven't you yeah yeah I've played wall Master a few times I quite like that I heard about they were selling loads off
53:28
in retail and it was like a thousand points for a quid uh that rarely do they ever do sales but
53:34
every now and again they'll just get rid of stock and like they had a deal and there's like a thousand points for a quid and I had six thousand points of
53:40
Chaos never painted a single model and I just sold them at least they only
53:46
cost you six oh yeah six quid yeah I was just like oh cool let's get into that because we're all talking about getting into it and then just inevitably new
53:51
because we're all in retail at the time so I was me Duncan a couple other guys we all got a different Army and then new
53:57
games came out and then new things happened so he always took a back seat it was like that kind of like dream of
54:02
doing it but we never did I think the rumors have been that initially if they bring epic back they might do it in the Horus heresy yeah yeah which would work
54:09
that was Titanic that'd make a lot of sense I want him
54:14
just to bring more dime back just get on and make more time Andy you can do it I've played it it's a really good game
54:20
it's so good I love it yeah it really is never played it you'll love it yeah it's like necomunder but a fantasy if you
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like DND morphine yeah with more fishing more fish involved yeah yeah absolutely
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right yeah see I've never played it but I know that there's fish yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a it's it is uh to
54:40
be fair though it's a very good game yeah it's like a post-apocalypse like I say post-apocalyptic there's a immediate's hit a big city and the city
54:47
is pretty much dead there's like some living things in there but most are mutated
54:52
um and in the slack in the middle there's a shrine or a a temple this is a sigma Temple and they're literally
54:57
hunting for this thing called weird Stone which is um what this meteorite is made of yeah
55:03
you get more sleeping man's leave and I think it's Mosley is a moon that's like got weird Stone in it and skaven like
55:08
weird Stone they used to like collect in it and make me out of it but it's like very chaoticy and it yeah warps and
55:14
twists so all these sisters of Sigma their mission is to collect it and store it at the very bottom of their of their
55:20
their Temple their Abbey then you get all these different factions wanting to collect it for different reasons and you
55:25
just basically just build a small War band up and you do come out in the ruins of more time some of the human mercenary
55:32
Miniatures for that world you know it was a really good one where they had to sword every shoulder known like a flaming torch and yeah in the big
55:38
pantaloons yeah I heard a story about the wizard I forget what his name was Nicodemus Nicodemus there was a wizard
55:44
it looked a bit like Gandalf or L Minster from uh DND if anyone knows elminster from DND looks exactly
55:50
remarkable like him and he was kind I think it was called Nicodemus the giant because when he was made it was just
55:56
made a bit too large for normal scale and it was like oh oh it's too late now I'll just make him uh so it was like the
56:03
giant yeah too big yeah but you know some people are ridiculously tall aren't they so you
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know well yeah I got so many remarks about being you're really small someone
56:15
uh yeah someone said to me you're all shorter in real life yeah um like or yeah I've had that comment a
56:23
couple of times well he didn't get the wheelchair comment this time
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yeah just like I always thought you're in a wheelchair I was like well because I'll sit down and paint I mean so
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whatever was yeah I remember that now what difference does it make it's just really weird that that's what came to
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the Head yeah yeah because like what if I'm not painting and I do hand ground for gifted children of the X-Men mansion
56:49
yeah oh yeah yeah good good call yeah I might have been a joke and it just went in my head thinking about it now yeah
56:55
yeah Xavier absolutely damn that was probably a really good joke and could have like blend into that maybe
57:03
yeah no I think I have like a normal sized torso but little legs so when I'm
57:10
stood up you know sitting down like this it's the great equalizer um but then when we stood up yeah me and
57:18
Peach not quite as yeah similar size yeah obviously the Suggs I always like
57:23
say she's tiny but she's literally the same size as me she's probably skinnier definitely skinnier yeah but she's like
57:29
height wise about the same height uh so like I remember there was the picture we had at Bookmans when guy and Hattie had
57:36
come down for a visit while chatting and took was there with Rob and we just had a little family photo and we could see Liz's guns uh oiled up ready for ready
57:44
for War uh and someone around at some point I like because it was a Twitter post like you keep saying Suggs is tiny
57:50
but she's literally the same size she was like I know I just say it because it's funny she she kind of looks tiny but she's not
57:57
uh also you know we were talking uh I literally I saw it the other night uh so
58:03
we were talking about silks getting like weird comments and one of those about anime yeah the guy who's put that
58:08
comment was in the comments and he's like I'm really sorry it was more of a joke and it just read wrong and I was
58:15
like oh cool so yeah but you know what at least at least he had the the yeah good grades to come back and go yeah my
58:22
bad yeah I mean it was like you know sometimes when you you said many times you can read things one way and read things another way tone of voice yeah
58:29
through text is very different which is why I um I think I said this
58:34
um in the chat with rage but I can maybe say it slightly clearer now
58:41
um is people always used to think I was mad at them because I would like end my
58:47
messages with full stops um so like the way the way the English language is meant to work I'm reading it
58:53
that way yeah yeah yeah um so I say I I was picking uh a
58:59
videographer for us to go to a wedding and I'd be like I'm outside full stop and then he was like yeah multiple times
59:06
I thought you were really mad and then I'd get in the car and you'd be like morning
59:12
um and and be happy and it was weird and then someone else said it as well so I was like right okay I'm gonna start
59:18
using emojis and yeah not using full stops because I don't want people to
59:24
think that I hate them yeah yeah somebody once said to me I could tell when you sent me that text message that
59:30
you're old because it had commas isn't it does the same thing when he
59:37
signs off text messages and messages you're sincerely Captain Hull yeah yeah yeah because because I find I do that
59:42
I'm like dear or hello I will in emails yeah never in like what's up and I used
59:49
to really I always I have to always use comments and it sometimes will take me three reads of a text message before I
59:55
finally send it to me you're like the comments are in the right place yeah I have to find out when I'm typing I'm
1:00:00
like I'm terrible for missing words like that for ages and I remember when I was in the office uh A lady called Maddie uh
1:00:08
love Maddie she's great uh she would be sitting behind me and she's like really fast and then she was like oh Peach I'm just
1:00:14
send you an email I was like cool I'll check it and I'll be typing back and I'm like and she's like are you really typing
1:00:21
like that like yeah that's how all these types sometimes I use this finger for spacebar
1:00:27
so it really like they should turn around yeah get your paint brushes out yeah faster skill sets yeah yeah exactly
1:00:35
that never been a great typer four or forget oh yes that's the mystery of it the
1:00:41
painting phase hi my name is Steve badge whoever sent this thank you very very much and you got the address from
1:00:48
Facebook and uh it slightly freaked me out until I realized that I went in and looked at Facebook again and the the
1:00:54
page that I've is in it's a little bit of a holding pattern at the moment I realized I'd stupidly put my own home
1:00:59
address on it and that's why it went freaked me out as well oh yes it wasn't a weird stalker someone sent you a name
1:01:05
badge yeah it was and it was warm with pride dolls at uh salute thank you very much for whoever said that if you wanted
1:01:11
to make yourself yeah make yourself known that'd be really kind to you again thank you because a few people did look
1:01:17
at it and go I thought he was called Jeff and then other people who have got a good memory for the show went ah Steve
1:01:23
I like it so yeah there we go thank you very much whoever that was talking of course as well I've got to handle a bunch of stuff by uh cryptic cabin uh so
1:01:31
they sent us some brushed opened uh some brushes teeth as well cool so there I've not heard of them before no well that's
1:01:37
it I mean you know I'm giving them a shout out because he came along said hello had a bit of a chat and yeah just
1:01:43
getting on their brand yeah and they do classes so if you apparently if you uh
1:01:48
fill the cards you get a free session at first I thought oh lip balm I could do with this and I read oh let's brush out so I came to my rescue because my lips
1:01:55
are so dry on that day yeah it kind of likes yeah I like the idea that you put it on and then just blowing bubbles I'm
1:02:01
a bit of a paintbrush liquor so it wouldn't actually be nice yeah oh yeah yeah just cleaning my brushes
1:02:07
whilst you know yeah keeping my lips nice and moist yeah uh yeah there's lots of uh you know like going back to the
1:02:13
the salute thing just like really really enjoyed it really nice just chatting to everyone so thank you for everyone that made themselves known and yeah sorry we
1:02:20
didn't get if there's other people waiting in the sidelines wanting to come and chat sorry if we didn't get a chance to chat to you it was really
1:02:25
overwhelmingly busy and uh you know I was like very much bewildered I had to
1:02:30
do some actual on-the-spot model painting critique and as well while you were there it did yeah well uh with will yeah he like literally like gave me his
1:02:37
box of really nicer painted Miniatures and made me hold them I say made me hold them he did and I was like really
1:02:42
nervous
1:02:51
so this hand I was like a tour guide for him was you because I I met him at
1:02:56
Weyland and then he went I'm trying to find Peach and I was like oh okay follow me yeah he's done roller in the head oh
1:03:02
that was yeah because me and Jeff um like we because the guys at Weyland had
1:03:08
said um for me come and say hi like we've got some bits for you
1:03:13
um and and we've been chatting to them and and about some like videos and stuff
1:03:18
um and it was amazing to meet them and we had like a moment where we're like we're currently not talking to anyone yeah let's go to Weyland yeah I've been
1:03:25
just before that had been the last gentleman with the hobnobs and then we yeah and then and then and then we were
1:03:30
like peachy might be on the way will tell you what we'll take you to him yeah
1:03:36
he's on the photo just get in the queue get in the yeah on a Twitter Instagram where I'm like I'm holding these
1:03:42
miniatures can see Waylon patiently waiting in the back waiting to talk yeah but yeah so this handle has a habit drop
1:03:48
and stuff so after a while uh it's an old thing and I've been to the hospital I've like the electricity shot through
1:03:53
and they're like I can't find anything but I just dropped things quite regularly uh when I was an Army painter I'd say I'd
1:04:00
probably drop a model 20 times a day wearing the resin this is why I'm very good at gluing but that's why I use super glue because I do yeah because if
1:04:07
I use plastic glue it snaps if you use super glue it breaks at the limb or breaks where yeah the joint is yeah so I
1:04:12
became very used to using super glue to to deal with this yeah especially when they're resin uh and I I had visions of
1:04:19
Nam basically because it when I was at one world I had a young chap coming to me like okay you have a
1:04:25
look at my model it was a big four I think it was a warhound Titan oh oh look at this story I I was he was like oh you
1:04:32
can pick up as I really want to pick it up and it's just my hands he was like oh no no it's fine it won't fall apart and he picked up to pass it to me and it
1:04:38
fell apart in his own hands so I was just like and then I was just having visions of this happening with like this guy's beautifully painted miniature like
1:04:44
I'm holding him with his hand that it's a bit shaky I'm like trying to oh that was stupid
1:04:51
that was you in like for me the Matrix yeah I dodged but imagine how bad you'd
1:04:57
feel yeah and it'll be like you've obviously not glued it very well or don't get magnetization you've passed me
1:05:02
this thing and it's fall into pieces on my watch even though it's your bad gluing that's done it yeah but obviously
1:05:08
I was really worried about Will's stuff and I was like every five seven was like trying to take him back he's like anime I just want to share this thing with my friend I'm like I really don't want to
1:05:14
hold it I mean he's literally done like a clone trooper there's there's one's called the um the Umbra operatives and
1:05:20
they're in Black armor
1:05:29
I'm just like can you take him back please can you take him back please you hold them and I'll look at them yeah
1:05:34
you're just like to think of my dad go look your eyes not your fingers I'm just like take them back
1:05:39
I don't want him anymore I don't want this responsibility this is too much yeah oh wow but yeah it was a really
1:05:46
nice um shout out from Suggs as well when they were doing their panel um that was uh so thank you sir because
1:05:53
that was really kind of you that was so embarrassing because she was talking about like hobby Heroes and stuff like that and she referred because during
1:05:59
that time there was some bad times we were all uh back at uh GW in marketing
1:06:04
and we used to be our own sort of support network and stuff and she just got that out in the middle of the panel
1:06:09
and then I was like oh God there's people staring at me now where do I hide I can't hide anywhere so I was like and
1:06:14
you were covered in pegs everyone looked at you and then like why
1:06:20
is this man coming in bags it's a really really sweet thing to for her to say uh but yeah it was it was a really good day
1:06:26
I really enjoyed myself got to see loads of people chat loads of people Network a bit with other uh influences influences
1:06:34
hopefully next year um uh hobby Heroes down there might have some ladies on it yeah so I mean we talked about that uh
1:06:42
as and I guess the feedback will be sent as well um it was good to have a solid panel yeah talking about women Warhammer
1:06:48
but I thought what from my point of view would and you know we chatted about it and your partner made a very good observation would it be more make more
1:06:55
sense if you were more inclusive and included them within the panels women can can be hobby Heroes yeah absolutely
1:07:02
yeah so it would have been great to have Suggs on the panel at the end with uh because we had mamacan Paints the Roses
1:07:09
next to me and then we had the two uh Ben and Lewis from yogcast yeah but still could have been a great addition
1:07:15
there as well I mean she can talk for England as we knew with the journey down as soon as I get in this car I'm going
1:07:21
to sleep two hours I didn't hear and even hear a breath being drawn it's not what makes
1:07:28
me funny you know what made me laugh about it it'd be it'd be it'd be hard because to be fair it's the first time I met Louise and she's awesome but you
1:07:35
know what I mean my wife Drive anyway yeah because we've been and this gives my age away to those that don't already know we this year been married 30 years
1:07:42
30 years yeah and we'll be driving along and my wife on generally does most of the motorway driving we can sit there for like 40 minutes and I go oh look at
1:07:49
that cow yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh it's weird you don't normally see them like quite that brown
1:07:54
do it and then it can be another like 20 minutes
1:08:00
people put that particular song on or you know or whatever or sometimes it'll just be an audio book you know and the
1:08:06
kids are in the back normally screens and headphones and you know and they're doing their own thing so to then be in a
1:08:11
car and someone spoke for what is almost identical to the minute the distance of Nottingham to Liverpool yeah for two
1:08:19
hours who had previously mentioned as they were the last thing they said does he got the car I think I'll probably be having a sleep yeah yeah I've never had
1:08:28
Christmas conversation in two hours I used to find when we're in the office right because we would start a conversation and I'll be like oh I've
1:08:34
got an answer for that and then should buy the next conversation so I was usually about four conversations behind
1:08:39
with my answers uh so I think we're training for this show then sidetracked yeah yeah but it was always great fun
1:08:47
because she she could talk forever and and she was really uh both her and Hattie and all of them
1:08:52
um are absolutely blew up blew it away because they were all super confident super like really articulate
1:08:58
um but yeah just like listening to suggest going on and on in the car was just amazing yeah so I think it was a it
1:09:05
was a good day all in all I think it was a nice experience and I thought you know I'm I'm really I'm because I owned an
1:09:10
art with you know because of being self-employed I norms and ours while taking the day off to go forward and I'm glad I did really it was really nice
1:09:16
yeah it was so met so many nice people yeah I'm making the way down to griffcon
1:09:21
in July I remember when we when I first joined
1:09:28
up EU ran October November time I just jiggly sent a message hey if you're looking for extra people I'd be happy to come along right yeah uh and they did
1:09:35
say we'll get back to you because they still want to organize and iron everything out and that was the same time we've chatted to the guys from turnip as well so we went to the
1:09:41
technical event yeah um Mr turnip was there wasn't he was he was very underdressed I thought he was a bit
1:09:46
understated yes yes
1:09:51
for a full day of 1920s picnicking with me a small amount of punting afterwards what a sensational man Max is great yeah
1:10:00
yeah uh so he does he definitely is my uh as we used to say and you know if someone in the Army was uh was a little
1:10:06
bit their thinking was a little bit sideways to the rest of you he used to play used everyone used to sing that
1:10:12
Sesame Street song you know that one of these kids is doing his own thing and he's definitely covered Mr Taylor 28 was
1:10:19
very much doing his own thing he looked fantastic yeah yeah excellent excellent
1:10:24
work on all night waxing of that mustache was very good yeah very very yeah yeah well it fits with his uh his
1:10:31
game yeah 28 so yeah never played any 10 of 28 we mean Pat went down to an event really enjoyed it at some point maybe
1:10:37
get around to making another Army for it did you say someone had a hell break yes with a with a large shell on its back
1:10:44
yes um yeah and it's called Snail break um that traps Army was amazing did he
1:10:53
win the thing at the end I think he he won like best army yeah I think so yeah and and his leader what are they what
1:11:01
they called Nintendo 28 oh you get toughs yeah he's tough was a little Lego frog with like the French
1:11:09
um like hat on like the Army what what's the shacko yeah yeah okay yeah so he had a shackle on and it's just this little
1:11:16
frog sat in and he and he'd done all of the um all of like the water and
1:11:22
everything so it was like a little Lego frog sat in a bog with a shackle on and
1:11:27
it looked Sensational it was phenomenal yeah it's such great like and then he
1:11:33
had like snail breaks as well yeah and it was just like his eye for detail and everything through the Army I like this
1:11:40
he's ahead of 28 that you can just let your imagination just completely off them absolutely it's like root vegetables me medieval combined with
1:11:46
napoleonics and other random sorts of make it muddy I mean I've seen people
1:11:52
like using like first world war one miniature first yeah first of all Miniatures uh with like Knights helmets
1:11:58
and stuff like that which is that it's that kind of weird sort of I'd say strange toad in the whole style fantasy
1:12:04
but with like even more pushed and strange uh definitely a pipe dream I think was going off with Max when he
1:12:09
when he made that yeah oh absolutely yeah yeah very good yeah it's very good I didn't realize as well one of his main
1:12:15
artists uh because someone dropped me a message on Facebook a little while back was a guy I used to know and talk to a
1:12:21
lot at head office because he was one of the artists called Robin Carey and he was like I do a lot of the art for uh for Max I was like oh my God we used to
1:12:28
literally like come and talk to each other all the time I was like because I'm not spoken for ages all right we
1:12:33
just got back into into chatting again because I applied for the art job and he applied and
1:12:39
he's obviously far better than I was he got the job and I was like I was working in one world at the time he was like I'm
1:12:45
the new artist I hate you I died for that jumper you are really good at what you do I didn't know you worked too well
1:12:51
yeah I moved there for about six months so I moved in I think it was my last shift at Derby was the games day uh so
1:12:58
like start of October yeah and I I started in uh this was just been 90.
1:13:05
yeah we always be 97 96.97 not 96.97 2006 2007. uh so I did um gotta say
1:13:13
you're not that old it's the Picard effect
1:13:19
and yeah I I've worked the games day then the very next day I was working in uh Games Workshop one world yeah and I
1:13:26
was only there for about six months because it was the job went up for the Army painters before Christmas and I
1:13:31
applied and then it wasn't until after Christmas then I had to work a couple of months until a replacement was found because you sometimes into into
1:13:38
departmental uh issues would occur and the manager will have to like know a bit of a chat and go well I want him on this
1:13:44
day well he can't have him until this day but that's a bit too far away because we've got this project still with having like this whole negotiation you're just there going I'm not a piece
1:13:51
of meat yes you want to go off and work yeah you are number yeah number zero
1:13:56
zero Dash four seven five how did you know my code name that's really weird uh
1:14:02
but yeah yeah so I've worked there for a small time uh six months I think he was yeah
1:14:08
oh yeah I got nothing more to add really over there like suit was great uh patreon giveaway got nothing to do uh
1:14:15
recently done one with Bob I'm not sure when this is gonna go out um so at the moment it might be the
1:14:22
ending of one yes or the start of another so should we leave it for this one so let's leave it in an ambiguous
1:14:28
state if it's April there's some information in on patreon and uh we've
1:14:35
just got so many interviews all yes yeah yeah loads of interviews
1:14:41
I've been on my ass for two weeks um yeah and we've got and with our loose
1:14:49
schedule as it is going forward into May and June we've got some blinders lined up for more interviews every week yeah
1:14:55
yeah which is really cool yeah which I'm looking forward to immensely especially one late May
1:15:03
it's going to be very special Brian May it's Brian man Brian May's coming in there yeah late he'll be yeah he'll be
1:15:09
late be 11 o'clock and he'll be in at half 12. yeah it's fine yeah so uh yeah no it should be it should be really good
1:15:15
yeah so that was our positive history of salute for this year yeah definitely going next year
1:15:21
yeah I think so yeah yeah I'd like to go back as much at him just to see people and say hello again would be nice yeah
1:15:27
yeah I really want to go to chilcon again yeah well yeah I'm gonna try and do chat well I'm gonna try and see if we can do chill com next year what do you
1:15:33
close look at going to parties and hammerhead whichever it is because they do yeah yeah so oh yeah used to be in
1:15:39
Callum Hall and they've moved now I've only the race grounds which is up in Newark so it's not a million miles away
1:15:44
no no and they do uh potentially if I remember rightly if you do them and you do them Saturday Sunday that would be
1:15:49
really nice because I can go on a Sunday and not miss a day's work yeah yeah I think I use the opportunity to go take a
1:15:55
child with you I think me and Stevie normally frequented quite a lot and we tend to go
1:16:00
on the Sunday and you don't miss that much there's still there for both days yeah they have enough stuff yeah absolutely right yeah because I struggle
1:16:06
with as well yeah yeah well so I think that might be it might know yeah well thank you again to all our
1:16:13
patrons that visited us yes absolutely and also those that couldn't quite make it because you probably live miles away I just couldn't make it but thank you
1:16:19
for us your support your continued support okay chance as well because I thought it was really a lovely gentleman called uh Joe approached me in the
1:16:26
climate Center the other day or the old place of employment of Patrick himself and he was a patreon and he uh was
1:16:32
lovely and Josh asked for a selfie outside the cinnamon in Nottingham and slightly freaked me out because he said
1:16:38
can I have a selfie I was waiting to see who was standing up for us to have a selfie with me which is a bit weird but
1:16:44
uh yeah so we met some people were out and about and that's been nice as well so yeah all those people are patreons
1:16:49
thank you very much yes yeah and don't forget to hit the like And subscribe
1:16:59
don't forget to hit the like and describe that's just a comment right it's just a comment uh yeah yeah yeah
1:17:05
thank you and it was great it was blessed and I'll see you again and hopefully I'll have a decent voice because I think I've got Pat's lurgy I
1:17:12
might have it we should probably stop kissing that's probably I don't it's part of the job now
1:17:18
and I use your mouth as a wet palette if everything was a statement to end up
1:17:25
goodbye bye

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