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Jun 1, 2023
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hello I'm peachy hello I'm Patrick hey up I'm Jeff oh you've got progressively
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more badass and I just don't know yeah never mind I show elements there's always next week yeah I'll work on it
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I'll get a deeper voice I'll go deep so yeah hi everybody hello welcome we're
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back for another show of just sidetracking see the t-shirt looks great people are wearing them now yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah and the sidetracked one seems to be the one that uh yeah the
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most popular but I'll have to look at the stats the the last time I looked at the stats the classic logo one was was
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in the lead oh really um and then uh surprised me because it's classic logo yeah and then sidetracked
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was was second yeah cool oh it's nice to see that we've got a league table for them yeah yeah yeah so go through some
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previous episodes where you add all the painted army out there we did we did picked up a box which is over there but
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I'm trying to get it out now because we'll just be watching me it's fine tape a box it doesn't make for riveting
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viewing makes for riveting hearing if you're into that old ASMR stuff just opening boxes yeah yeah
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uh my girlfriend had uh some family over um over the weekend and was showing them
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like they'd poke the head in here and was like oh this is like where all the YouTube happens
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yeah the YouTube what kind of YouTube the YouTube
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um and I've drawn a blank so I'm just going to stop uh doing that story
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um I I genuinely they were overwhelmed by the the equipment and the gear what did you just say like a couple of
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seconds ASMR ASMR yeah yeah there we go thank you he's very young for a senior
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moment yeah I I was just gonna say I'm I'm having this absence so when I used to do so we're getting sides right now
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what I used to do absolutely first day trading they're referred to like they were talking about strokes and tias Tas
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forget which it's like a minor stroke yeah I won't really call it minor they often say it's not really mine it's a stroke as a straight but it's a
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different category yeah um and the one about does anyone ever like going to a room and just forget or
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just like you stand there staring you can't quite figure out what that is it's like it's like a minor level yeah
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straight it's not like effect you know it's not going to be like a lot of effect yeah that's what you had you had an absence yeah oh fantastic yeah
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happens to us all yeah uh it's not been toast while you're having a could you uh heart attack or stroke that's the same
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time yeah yeah
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Netflix uh show called inside and it was like loads of songs that you recorded
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during lockdown and he was trapped like inside his own room and uh one of the first songs is um he talks about he was
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like am I overcooking my toaster or am I having a stroke and that's that's how I know that from just like him well I'm
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always having a stroke in our house because we've now left the children be in charge of doing their own toasten so it constantly sounds like it constantly
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smells like I'm having a stroke in our house
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my dad did that he actually did have a stroke he woke up one morning went I can't feel the left side of my body so
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he then went to work did a full day's work absolute idiot I remember you telling me
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this and just being like it felt really bad it felt really rough he said and then he came over the
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morning you need to go to the hospital obviously you know they took on the adverts about get it fast and stuff like
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so the fact that my dad just did a full day's work before deciding I mean how did you do a full day's work with half your body not working well my
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father-in-law you do half a day's workers you couldn't couldn't he literally slid
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out of bed to turn into a phone he was like okay Switched Off wow yeah scary
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stuff yeah that is quite good we've all had that where we slept on an
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arm and then you wake up and you just can't feel it you just think oh my God you're like trying to like grab your alarm or your phone and you're just like
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what is this thing doing imagine that like all day long yeah terrifying that would be terrifying so anyway back onto
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the ASMR yeah yeah yeah because they're not uh they're not they're um yeah partner's family they're not
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like into Warhammer or anything like that um she showed them like my own Warrior
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video and they said their favorite shot was when I got like a hobby knife and cut through the cellophane
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um on one of the boxes yeah yeah um and I was like yeah fair enough yeah it's pretty cool there's something to do just
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a bit an hour long video yeah they were just like just two loads of unboxings yeah yeah yeah remember when I was at um
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before I was leaving actually um Marvin was showing me like some types of YouTube videos where a guy who makes
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just like huts and like he does different areas of like Huts so he might do like a viking or a Saxon Hall and you
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just build him because I think he's got like a plot of land it's quite a big phone and I feel it's called now on YouTube but he's got a big following
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there's no there's no talking it's just oh yes yeah of them like you know and
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like the rain pattern off like the yeah the Watling yeah or the thatch roof and stuff like that you could just sit there
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and watch it for hours and it's just so good yeah the the secret with those videos they all have closed captions on
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so if you if you want to know what he's doing you uh put subtitles on and that's
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kind of like the the video for the video yeah yeah because I know I know exactly the videos you're talking about I can't
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remember the name but he'll be like I make a pizza oven and just a village in a jungle yeah holy crap yeah but they
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are really good yeah really really good to sit there listening to rain dropping off canvas and stuff yeah so good yeah
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it's nice it's a nice sound because you know when we go camping we sleep me and the wife sleep in our van because uh the
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back converts down and the kids sleep in a tent put the sound of uh if you're unlucky enough to be camping in a
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training but the sound's a bit Yeah the metal roofs really yeah so I've got a couple of things about sound that may be
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normal maybe not normal I've got a quick something about sound move your little microphone close to your mouth
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I love it I love it more of this I was I was um I was searching for a moment
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where I could be like just try and give you the eyes yeah but it's crazy it's fine I would
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like because you do rock back as a forwards but like and sometimes it's okay like I've moved your volume up a little bit on my little slider yeah I
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now have to knock it down because I'm gonna start shouting I'm just gonna really and then I'm gonna move this further away and you're just gonna get triggered by me you know what
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[Music]
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[Music]
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[Music] because everything has like been pre-sequenced so uh I mean I probably
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like watched enough top of the Pops to have seen yeah Shiny Side Parts with matching matching
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red shirts I might have to get you guys some headphones because this like audio uh
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interface has um some like really awful sound effects
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that you can put in so if one of you says something sad you won't hear it but I'm gonna press a button and like a
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trombone goes yeah yeah that's awesome it also it does
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have a sensor button but um oh that's it because I swore you did just that so now I'm gonna have
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to go back into the video find my swear word yes how long have we've been recording for eight minutes eight
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minutes I said the f word there we go so I'm gonna have to go back and put that out yeah I'd say seven minutes because
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I've been you've been waffling a bit long yeah I've been waffling anyway sound sound so yeah I don't even always
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gets this and it's you know I I don't know if it was like when I was in the womb or what but I get really sleepy
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when the Hoover's on when the Dustbin turn up and when people use power drills I find it really
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comforting I just want to fall asleep to that okay the Hoover noise is the Russian of blood in the womb is it yeah
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yeah that's what I'm interested obviously
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[Laughter]
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[Applause] [Music]
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Liz wanted a Hetty we had a Henry he died I've got Henry yeah he died oh dear
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oh yeah we made a little Long Boat and set him down
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you're quite close to alberston Castle you could have got him in that big lake we tried we tried yeah
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brilliant brilliant she's a viking Funeral For A Henry tell you what it's the only only funeral that Henry
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deserves it's a viking piece yeah they just keep chugging and chugging and chugging and then and then they give up
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the ghosts when like you children have left home like you know they just keep going forever yeah pretty robust
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machines that's why I think most like cleaning firms use them yeah good yeah we're doing really well we're talking
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about hobbies aren't we yeah yeah I mean we've got I'm sure we'll segue back to 40K or warm at some point yeah honest
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yeah yeah well um uh did any of you I think I know the answer did any of you
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manage to get the uh kill team on Saturday now the question is are you asking us or the whole world everyone in
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the comments drop it in yeah yeah did did anybody that wanted kill team I'm
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gonna tell you something what I do now is I don't look at the website anymore when it was the weekend because I know I'm not going to get it yeah yeah and
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there's no point I might as well just wait until like a week after and see what's available and then
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buy what I need after that because there's no point I'm not going to be sat there like waiting to click and then get hugely disappointed if I don't join the
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race I'm not going to lose Games Workshop Games Workshop websites or as I like to call it the screen of Dreams the
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screen of Dreams yeah now I mean the only thing in that set actually I only want is the inquisitorial War band and
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I've I've got the chaos dudes so it'll just be more chaos dudes than I need so I'll just wait until they come out separately yeah there's chaos in there
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that I wouldn't mind to have in the uh death guard Army so I thought oh I might get that and you know like saying because to the inquisitorial unit will
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always get you somewhere on the line because they'll make they'll do new rules and they'll probably do new Inquisitor at some point in time and I
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thought yeah but then yeah gone in no time yet again yeah and you don't get me wrong someone
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put up quite an interesting uh article relating to a web shop and they tried to do their best to explain what they
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thought was going on and it was actually on our Discord and that was interesting the problem being is is the same Games
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Workshop are still massively behind from covert from their schedule which is
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obviously you know beyond their control they also then blade they also said oh the problem being is all the printing
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gets done in China and you think well you know not all of it well you're right not all and not all of it's also the the
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books and papers and stuff yeah like if it's the cardboard bits and Bobs behind the scenes info is if you have a
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deadline yeah you used to have you have to hit the deadline and then you had a 19-week window for re um so yeah to get
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stuff to repo everything was like this is the deadline for Repro and then Repro had to do it and then they had a 19-week
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window for shipping to China and back and this and all the printing yeah and half the time they never hit it so they
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had to go to hickling and Squires or one of the many places around the Midlands to to do the printing form which yeah
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then add a knock-on effect on margin yeah um so it was always like we don't want to do it here in the UK because it
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affects make less money yeah make less money so but nine times out of ten doing it just because people just couldn't hit
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targets oh which is really insane and then the other one which I think is quite an interesting one they're all
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saying well the problem being is they're not doing a lot of anything is because all they're trying to do is stockpile Leviathan yeah for when it comes out
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yeah and you know what I've heard that answer now a few times and if that's the answer and then on the day
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Leviathan is really ridiculously easy to get on the website all day long yeah but if they go oh we're only making you know
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seven copies of this because we've got 50 million copies of that and then if you've got to guarantee that it'll still
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be gone by about two minutes past ten yeah I mean it'll be like so all of that obviously yeah it's the High Heavens is
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turns out to be nonsense yeah if that turns out to be nonsense I will be uh a bit upset yeah because I would like to
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get the uh one yeah the boat and kill team what minute yeah I think I think a
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couple of nights apparently some people I went in a couple of months someone was saying that um there's like a little
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glitch or something in the web store that you can get it at like 9 58 or something and then so it sells out before it's
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even been released is that like when you ring up a doctors and you have to ring up at eight o'clock and by the time you get through it one minute past eight all
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the bookings are gone yeah yeah yeah exactly like that I like to refer to use my my favorite visitor my favorite
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attempt to phone and my doctors was was what I call snooker Monday snooker Monday yeah it was the day I phoned my
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doctors and my redials was 147
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[Music] so with the um potentially like the manufacturing of
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10th because they'll they'll I mean they're generally been pretty terrible with releases at the moment haven't they
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like everything sold out like similar to yourself Peach I've actively I still look at what's coming out
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um and I think oh it would be nice to have that but I've actively tried well I've actively stopped buying stuff that
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I want because I know that I won't be able to get it yeah my problem with it is is I and I think I
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touched us on this once before I don't mind well I do mine kill team selling out but the bigger problem with it is is
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they sell it out and then when they dismantle it into it's invariable extra
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bits to sell it that way they then have only a tiny amount of bits for you know
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like um the little sprue that was like you know the gun racks and so on which was the
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they sold that in a box and it came with the little um oh right little County Council yeah yeah yeah yeah so they did
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all that in a box yeah for that long and the thing is right okay yeah yeah
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so they would then go well you can't you didn't but you didn't get in time to buy it let's do it separately yeah yeah you
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know I'm a grown-up I can wait for that just about I know and then and then they release that for 10 minutes yeah yeah I
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mean I get like you know shelf space I mean that's always been like a thing with workshop and when I was there it was when you as you remember you used to
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be able to buy bits separately yeah yeah but that took up so much real estate in the warehouse that they end up like
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dropping that because it wasn't as profitable and it didn't there was so much stuff that was just like hogging
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space yeah so that's why they ended up removing it and then for a time it was just Spruce you could order Spruce separately
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um and then it just like in the end it was like no none of that now um and then they got more space in the warehouse but because as a business it
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grows it gets bigger it gets bigger yeah you need more space in the warehouse to stuff yeah and stuff but then you have to limit how so I kind of get it but at
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the same time it's frustrating yeah and also the thing why can't they ever made to order system yeah exactly why can't they have one toward the system they've
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done it before for numerous things yeah they're doing it for like loads of the fine casts to Miniatures at the moment
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aren't they yeah and the thing is is that you know you've got you've you've built all the casts they're all sitting
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there yeah just you know the tool exists I mean that's the other thing as well I
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know it's schedule and going well waiting your time to get your thing onto the tool and someone that probably works for Tool and can correct me on this but
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I remember having a conversation with someone that was talking about when they do a run of sprues like a tool yeah it takes a
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while to assemble and disassemble the tool yeah I'm lost yeah so they've only got
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limited amount of machines that can print stuff out yeah so when they do that it does have a knock-on effect on like releases and this anyway so I'll
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get that side of it that is yeah loads of people want cursity let's put let's reassemble that tool put that
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together and then do a whole new run you do a whole new run you get the boxing printed they sell out again which have
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already dismantled that curse City yeah um tool yeah so then it's like we'll
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have to wait another six months now before we can do that again because we've got all these other things in plan I'd love to see
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um I mean we're never going to see it because I guess that's Games Workshop secret or I would love to talk to someone about it
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um in the like how the tooling works because I imagine if they set it up they'd have to do a few test runs to make sure that it was all right oh yeah
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yeah all that sort of stuff but you're interested right so hot take yeah go on um I'm not going to talk about
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historical War gaming before you ask okay um that's funny you said I've been wearing my jumpers I mean Jack Boots
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especially but nevermind oh dear right um so I remember being told uh they had
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one Factory and then uh they opened another one and it was already at capacity
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um so perhaps completely you know tinfoil hat on one of those manufacturing plants is just
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making 10th edition yeah and then the other one is just trying to do the kill teams yeah and they literally can't make
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them fast enough yeah problem Games Workshop I've got is they need to hire some Romans and Bear Down The Wood Yard
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over the road faces I remember before I left there I was
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talking about like because you got a textiles firm across the road you've got um Brooke Brothers which is the timber
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yard which is like a light textiles yeah
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it's a little fire between the two yeah yeah they'll be like yeah the small little trail of lighter fuel from one to
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the other yeah not a problem brilliant insurance and then it was an inside job no it wasn't yeah it was an inside job
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it was an over the road job yeah yeah or on the news they'll be like a man in a long coat and sworn off jeans was seen
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streaking away from the incident well I think you know if you command two Hobbies together
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you're flashing and you've been pyromaniac into one evening's out I
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think that's a good teacher setting fire to Henry down the canal went wrong oh
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because I mean quite close by yeah you are a very close by to the canal okay so
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this podcast is now how do we burn down the businesses close to to games
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workshops what is the actual little road call to go into what's the name of it
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um oh my God Willow Road Willow Road it could just be called Warhammer Avenue
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yeah they just have a gate at the front of it yes which is you said your security guy mate said it would be so
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much easier yeah yeah I remember he said the same thing I I don't know if he works though yes yeah it could open I
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really like Ben Ben was great um if anyone knows Ben say that I thought he was awesome Ben Goodman um
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yeah great top bloke um yeah he's the matching name for it with a matching name for a matching name
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for it Ben Goodman oh you're right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it took me a minute I was like
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yeah because they they I think oh crikey how many entrants do they have like one two three like at least five or six yeah
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probably more depending which yeah all the lorries in the car parks and all that sort of stuff whereas they could
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just make it into a private road gate the the front of it yeah um then that would be significantly
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easier for them to manage still have to manage the road but that's that's it yeah and then they could resurface it and all that sort of stuff if there was
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another poonami I don't know what they would do yeah that was interesting the poonami oh yeah yeah oh the sewage broke
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didn't they yeah yeah but it was my favorite wasn't it wasn't uh even though it was leaking outside that t-junction yeah it's London Lane
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um it was further up it was just working its way down but yeah that was I remember having to not a bad thing but
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we we had to go to Five Guys a few times down there the canteen wasn't allowed to be open
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yeah leave Five Guys um yeah yeah yeah
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I had five guys recently yeah expensive but yeah it's nice as you always think you know to be more more remortgaging of
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the house but you know it's always worth going if you can yeah I tend not to eat out that much because
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it is just so expensive yeah and say if I get to take away from myself I'm like oh like you know 15 quid for a burger
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and a drink and a few chips or whatever um and you're like you know treat myself every once in a while but if you took it
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like a family of four or five there oh well I I remember him oh I used to have um I used to have a customer who cost a
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living I used to have a customer who was dating the manager of Five Guys oh and
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instead of tipping me he would tip me a comp ticket so I could go in and get a free
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and um and he came in once and he went you know there's one for you there's one for
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the wife I need comp I'm me and the wife sat there one night and obviously act for free and I but I've been sitting
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there I was eating it because I was facing the direction and I was tallying up the price and my wife said to me once
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well take we were in town she said that Five Guys was lovely let's all go in there for lunch and I looked at it yeah
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it's gonna be about 72 Quid how much yeah my wife just thought it was like
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McDonald's price yeah yeah yeah yeah it is meat is just
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generally very expensive yeah I was at a wedding on um Saturday and the the talk of bridal prep
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was uh how expensive baguettes are at pret um
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yeah tell us more yeah um well actually I I was saving this for
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a for a chat show and then just completely forgot to tell you guys but um so I did uh last month did like four
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weddings in a row yeah um did you do a funeral [Music]
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no no it's mainly John and Kobe to be fair um ironically uh I was supposed to
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film a funeral on Friday um it got canceled so I'm like great they
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lived um um interestingly
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um again not Warhammer related we talked about it for a little bit but um it just uh I see I was gonna go with
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one story and now I'm doing another one I love it so we do this is what we do trying I was chatting too um because I I filmed obviously the
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wedding industry completely died to death over covid um and I filmed a lot of funerals
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um because obviously there was quite a lot going on and people couldn't attend them so lots of people haven't videoed
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or live streamed or something like that um and we were waiting in a graveyard
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um for a procession to turn up there was me another videographer and we were attracted to some gravediggers and obviously like in in our jobs if you
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can call this a job um and other other jobs you know you start having nicknames for stuff and
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colloquialisms yes and the other um and they were just chatting about digging Graves and he was like oh we had
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a Bob Marley the other day and I was like pardon well Rastafarian funeral well no no not at all and he was like a
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Bob Marley and I was like this is like the second funeral I've ever filmed you don't have to it was like we're jamming
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and I was like yeah that's a Bob Marley song yeah and it was like the they
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essentially it's like three it's like the Inception of gravedigger uh words
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essentially they dug the hole too small so the coffin got stuck and it was
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jammed into the floor so they had to like really push it in oh my God so I was like that one that's like oh dear
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that must be terrible for the family like and it's like oh no um but then also that to their and it's
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just another job and they have funny names for stuff yeah yeah and it's like oh the coffin gets stuck oh Bob Marley
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yeah yeah I suppose yeah you get to the point where you from it you disassociate don't you with with what the actual
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circumstance yeah is just a function you have a function which is you dig a hole a thing goes in it you you feel it we're
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sorry and you fill it again and then if there's a mistake you correct the mistake and you deal with that mistake can you move on to the next time so it
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does become very much task driven stuff as opposed to yes there's a family member here yeah yeah like there's
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there's a human being yeah inside of that box that goes in the ground absolutely so but anyway yeah uh I mean
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that yeah I guess turned into a slightly more sad story than I anticipated but it's like lol Bob Marley
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um so uh yeah I did Four Weddings didn't do a funeral yeah um sad first wedding uh I was on Photo duties and after the
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groom got married like well bride and groom got married walked back down the aisle and he was like Patrick
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um do you have a YouTube channel that's like yes I do
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um so he recognized me um at the wedding and I was like oh I mean it's fun like when he was going to
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because wasn't he the one you said that got married the full cosplay as a commissar nice
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yeah yeah um yeah but then the bride was dressed up as a towel yeah so I was like that
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and then I just shot them all yeah awkward yeah yeah so that was like a proper like but what
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he didn't tell you was he was dressed up as a tablet to his stealth suit so it looked like he was just getting married on his own
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oh do you um but yeah that was like a proper crossing of the streams moment yeah yeah like the first one I'd never been
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recognized at a wedding before because I think people that get married don't play Warhammer but of course they do
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um but that was really fun um after they got married no maybe not
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and then yeah that was in uh I think Norfolk somewhere and then
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um a couple of days later I was down uh in the Cotswolds and um I was chatting to a lovely lady that
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had like a half pint glass just full of white wine um and I was like you know what respect
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yeah um and then question is why wasn't it a point glass oh that is a question well okay so when
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you go upgraded because she was talking yeah yeah yeah he was a classy woman no but you get you get the wine on the
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tables so you sit down and have your meal and traditionally like you might have a bottle of red and a bottle of white and loads of them don't get drunk
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so as in the bottles of wine don't yeah don't get finished so if you're sensible instead of going to the bar and paying
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extortionate amounts of money yeah yeah you just be like well listen that one I love that one yeah and um and I think
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the wine glasses have been cleared away so she's just making the best out of the situation incredible incredible woman very intelligent and um I was attracting
28:10
these two ladies and I was like I'm really sorry I recognized that person over there and I can't remember why and
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she was like oh that's uh that's my fiance he works for tabletop tactics
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and I met I met Bard at the wedding yeah yeah
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um it was incredible yeah and I was just like oh my God and um did he recognize you when you went over uh no no I don't
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think so which is completely Fair um because I just do I mean you enjoy the same yeah in in like drawn form we
28:43
look the same yeah yeah everybody I go which one's which and then I look at whichever one is more Ginger and that's
28:49
me yeah um well sadly as the uh as the three of us in the top of the hippo on the side tracked uh t-shirt uh whichever one's
28:56
more gray yeah we used to have an artist later called Sarah Kaiser used to do like the if you
29:02
remember warmer TV used to have little illustrations that's right yours was real I always really liked yours
29:10
she drew that for me yeah but the problem was and I get this because she's a good artist but when you've got bold
29:16
men that have facial hair they all look so I look the same as Adam Troke Andy Smiley Roger yeah yeah
29:23
um and I think Max ended up having one as well and it's just like there was five images of just generic egg people and they just look the same it's just
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like cool which egg person are you I'm I'm the peachy egg person yeah oh that's incredible yeah is that why you are
29:37
actually work holding your bones yes so you know which one yeah I know I know that's me that's definitely me yeah
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amazing that's my helmet um yeah so I met I met barred from tabletop tactics I have to say like
29:49
terribly for my sins I don't know his real name uh Steve box oh is it Steve Steve all right fantastic if that is the
29:56
one you're thinking of that looks like barred The Bowman um I don't I don't know no but if you
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said it's bad and you said he looks like that's his name on tabletop tactics he's like barred that's always his nickname
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oh yeah um so I don't know I'm going to be going wrong I'm going to Google it yeah I'll
30:13
get it on my phone because I was just box because I think he looks like Barbara or um Luke Evans yeah Luke Evans
30:20
the man who plays Bard I'm gonna oh oh yeah so I'm only slowly catching up now Hobbit yes yeah yeah yeah yeah I always
30:27
thought Steve box looks like him because my wife was looking through a white dwarf because uh tabletop
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um I'm thinking Vanguard tactics you're thinking tabletop tactics yeah sorry yeah oh no yeah so yeah you're talking
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about uh e-box yeah yeah yeah I'm getting all confused because I'm stupid and old
30:44
sorry everybody Peter the senior moment Like Pat earlier yeah I'm just leaving mines later in the show so I'm at that
30:51
guy again no that's totally different yeah hi so Steve yeah
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um I know him as bad from tabletop tattoo and he was the nicest most enthusiastic person in the world and I
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was like I need to be more like Bard yes yeah yeah we all do yeah maybe that could be the
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slogan for the next one of the t-shirts yeah uh but yeah that was quite the
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wedding and Warhammer weekend it was quite surreal yeah it sounds awesome uh and I was like oh I wonder if this is gonna like happen I guess it will happen
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more regularly yeah I don't know but um it might be quite a surprise like but then also I feel bad because I don't
31:27
want to be like Oh I'm here working for the couple and I don't want to be like yeah well that's great but if they
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engage in that conversation yeah that's fine oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I would never yeah just just walk in uh yeah
31:39
just ding a glass pardon me everyone I don't know if you know I uh don't forget to hit the like And subscribe button
31:45
please yeah I'm on YouTube uh please don't talk
31:51
to me about it please use that voice do use that voice I had a weird dream last night uh we
31:58
went to Bob naismith's house so you ask them to come back on the show yeah and as I already there because that by this
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point in time I'm in the next few months short months I'm hoping you'll have adopted me I was expected to already
32:10
we're not done this door we said can you come on the show again for another and we want to do like a bigger you know have you as a regular guest yeah just
32:17
like now I don't want to and then I was like oh no and then what happened was it ended up being some other old guy called
32:23
Wilfred um and he wasn't Scottish and I know Jews just get weird it's just like
32:29
it's hard to politely go oh yeah that's fine well when are you feeling up for it we'll get you on the show at some point and the guy's like oh okay thank you
32:35
very much then I close the door I was like that wasn't Bob I had no idea why I had that dream it
32:41
started off I was going to ask Bob to come on the show again it went to his house and it got some random old man I like it for a dream of gone I'm long
32:48
enough the fact that we just had somebody on another show called Wilfred who had no understanding of what we were talking about let's get him on yeah if
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you're watching yeah just get a random off the street one day and bring them into this mess
33:02
this is could be hobby related mine kind of is because I've got one okay if you
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can draw into if you have them dreams what's your weirdest dream you've ever had
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yeah so I had a recurring dream when I was a child um and I think I think elements a bit
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are quite common um but there was some kids I grew up in like a tiny it's not even a village I
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think it was like a hamlet it's like a small collection of houses there's some kids our age and we quite regularly go playing and stuff like that
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um and we'd be like playing with my my mates um I'd go down through like a drain into
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like an uh a different dimension but it was like it but it was yeah yeah it
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climbed down a drain come out like at the same place yeah um but it was like uh yeah I think I was
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too young to even know what like different dimensions were and all that sort of stuff yeah like this guy had been purple or
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something like that um and I'd be on this road and I would see a like a fish with like a chain on
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it and I'd pick it up and then it would be like really really windy and I'd be trying to run away from this like bad
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guy that's on some like weird Mad Max barge that was just slowly coming towards me and I'd be running Against
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the Wind and I just wouldn't be able to do it yeah and in my head I'm like just drop the fish just drop the fish and the
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window stop um and then I had that dream so many times how much cheese did you have
34:31
tonight you stopped letting you have cheese before bed yeah I don't want this really
34:38
into like you know they do research on dreams I'll be interested to see what each of our dreams mean because I've got okay I had a dream that wasn't weird in
34:46
in reflection but it was quite the whole the way it worked it was quite odd I used to have a rear care and dream that
34:52
I was been separated from my platoon on the streets of Northern Ireland and had no
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weapon and I wasn't running around in a blind panic and it would surely yeah well yeah obviously yeah
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and I was running around in the streets in a blind panic and then the funny
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thing is a good friend of mine Calvin he lives in for in Florida and sadly um
35:16
Kelvin had come back to the UK because his mother was terminally ill and every day he stayed with mum and then up in
35:23
the evening he said to his group of friends he said take me out and do stuff with me just take my mind off of an evening and I'm
35:28
happy to be in that world during the day but of an evening take me out and go and do stuff and he said to me there's a
35:35
really cool movie I like the looks of called 71. do you fancy coming to see it with me on the cinema I don't know if
35:41
you've seen something yeah I've seen it yeah no it's about a soldier without his platoon or his weapon on the streets of
35:46
Northern Ireland oh and I said to my other half I'm going to see uh he said I'm going out with Kelvin tonight I'm
35:52
going to the cinema and she said we're going to go and watch this so I'm going to go and see 71 and she went what's that I said it's the movie Set 1971
35:58
about a soldier on the streets of Northern Ireland with no good and she went isn't that your care in Northern
36:05
Ireland dream and I went yeah she went is that a good idea oh I'm probably not Calvin's having a bad time over here
36:11
yeah I want to be there for him yeah I'll go and see it and you know I went and seen it I came home I never had the
36:17
dream again it's a good film fascinating never has it again after a watch this Jack O'Connell isn't it yeah yeah Derby
36:24
Lads yeah and plays it with a big thick Derby accent in that as well it does yeah yeah he's in there one called
36:29
unbroken as well where he plays an American pilot in a pure War Camp yeah yeah yeah pure
36:36
War po yeah because yeah there's a good portion where they're on the ocean isn't they
36:41
yeah um yeah because I didn't know where that movie was going to go but yeah all right taught Angelina Jolie to say help
36:47
me duck he's famous for that if anyone oh right if you ever see her say it's because he taught her from one movie
36:53
they were on I can't remember if she was directing it yeah yeah so not a weird dream but a weird outcome
37:00
yeah but then immediately switched it off yeah see I remember a lot of my dreams and I've had loads of funky ones
37:06
and weird ones usually involved like some kind of like being chased by ring race or like usually we used to be
37:12
focused quite heavily around the Old Village used to live in in the hamlet a bit like you yeah into like a magical wheel did you did you drop the fish I
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didn't drop that I didn't pick up do you realize that when you went
37:24
through the other damage do you think you might have been in more time yeah I'm doing that as well it's a weird guy on a barge he was going he was going
37:30
through my head as I was saying it yeah because that's all about fish isn't it so yeah it's quite a recent one I
37:35
remember chatting to Liz's friend uh Colette she she was studying dreams and stuff and I was like all right can you
37:42
work out what's going on this one so I I'm on top of a hill it's like a sort of a grassy sort of Hill and at the bottom
37:48
there's a there's a there's a stream like a little river but it's quite shallow it's like head Rose either side and at the top of the hill we're just
37:55
rolling down we're just pushing each other but as we're rolling each other down there's loads of guinea pigs and
38:01
we're pushing the guinea pigs down the hill as part of a game as we're rolling down the hill and I'm with Liz and I'm
38:06
with Charlie and we're all doing it when we get to the bottom all the guinea pigs turn into frogs and Gandalf suddenly in
38:13
the water just picking them all up and collecting them and going and just wanders off with all these frogs and and we're like are we supposed to follow
38:19
this guy so everyone's so and it was weird I have no idea what any of that means why why are they pigs why are
38:26
there frogs why is Gandalf in the river all of a sudden where did he come from and it was definitely Gandalf because it wasn't just some old man it was like he
38:32
had the hat and everything yeah and it wasn't Ian McAllen it was just John John
38:37
Howe style generic art version of Gandalf but okay it was so weird my wife
38:42
has terribly Disturbed and dream so then every morning show he comes to go I had a dream and there was a woman who lived
38:47
next door and the baby died and really sad okay you know really really sad dreams and should go it's really bad for
38:54
us what she's doing about last night he was like that was a secret agent all my dreams are literally like kids
39:00
dreams I was driving a car shoot out the window oh my God actually like comic
39:07
book dreams and my wife has these harrowing nightmares of like social reality yeah and I'm just like driving
39:12
Lamborghinis I think lizards like that as well because she has like quite harrowing ones that are dystopians but
39:18
yeah I'm just like shooting guns out of an Apache or whatever yeah oh amazing it's really cool I feel really bad I
39:25
would adopt them and go no no she's like no share tell me what year was like yeah I was like
39:30
parachuted off this onto skis on there yeah yeah just like recite every Bond
39:36
film that's good it's good any one line is in those dreams probably I would have
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thought so but I don't think they made out the mixed and then the baby died and then I said come up with some quick
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bombs oh yeah see Charlie's at the age where he's having dreams and yeah he gets
39:55
nightmares well I say the nightmares he has like like last night he came to bed I heard him running he was like Daddy
40:00
Daddy I was like all right and he just got into the bed and just started falling he was like yeah you're having a nightmare he was like yeah I was I was
40:06
in a spaceship and I went out but you didn't come out and why why didn't you do that Dad I'm
40:12
like trying to explain to kid it was a dream it wasn't real yeah yeah it was really hard to like go I I was probably
40:18
on my way I was probably just getting your water bottle sorted out you know you packed lunch and stuff because someone's got to turn the lights off
40:24
yeah yeah yeah he just yeah he woke up because I'd left him yes you know I'd
40:29
carry on floating in the spaceship where it was nice and warm um yeah doing any space walking yeah crazy kid could you
40:35
could you turn it into like a lesson about uh like crossing the road or something it's like that's why you don't
40:40
run out like when you cross the road or yeah yeah you should listen to your dad
40:47
otherwise it's just gonna go yeah oh someone's someone's ringing someone's a
40:52
buzzing I think I think uh hopefully Karen if not I'll I'll skew off quickly
40:57
and come back I know random for a chat just to disappear and reappear I think we might be okay we'll see if they Buzz
41:04
again let's see what happens I think it might be it might be my new trainers yeah
41:09
same as what he's wearing um just just fresh yeah fresh yeah well
41:15
I'm getting I'm getting to that age where um I think it was 2021 uh all the weddings I did I just wore like like
41:21
leather boots um because they look cool and I was like yeah yeah I love her boots I was like
41:28
let's survive I want when I go and film someone's someone's matrimony um these two giggling away
41:37
oh oh wait wait wait I've got I've got um
41:42
it's got some real big heels yes
41:48
oh dear I've got I've got to press that was a good joke I'm gonna press the Applause button
41:56
or if he's if you do another joke I can go like this um we have no idea what's going on Friday now
42:04
sorry it's like the drums didn't um I think five minutes already Drunk on
42:10
Power no yeah absolutely yeah yeah because like I control the angles as I speak so it's like okay today's episode
42:15
is all about me um
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it's just me um yeah so anyway let's let's don't what
42:28
on Earth are we talking about I don't know we had a couple of things we're going to talk about about 40K uh about about games workshops
42:35
uh yeah yeah not being able to get toys when you want them yeah that's of course yeah so oh I think they they're ex
42:43
they've experienced a lot of growth recently I think haven't they so yeah they did say they weren't expecting the
42:48
the return and the retainers to the Hobby during covert that was unexpected
42:53
it I think it was the times as as you do just read the times sometimes
43:00
cartoons I'd argue Mrs peachball at the times as well as many other broadsheets
43:06
and uh tabloids sensible babies yes and uh I saw I saw when I started reading through it and there's an article about
43:11
Games Workshop and interesting it was interesting because it talked about they had what they called Surplus cash which
43:19
they've given to the shareholders I was like how's about you give it to the staff because they give what is Surplus
43:24
cash yeah I guess it's like it makes more sense to get rid of it than um pay
43:30
tax on it or something along those lines there'll be so because they give the staff bonuses like twice a year don't
43:35
they I know when the stock prices took a dive it was a bit ski with like the stuff
43:43
didn't get as much as they used yeah I mean there's just lots of things that just need tweak in there like yeah and
43:48
stuff like that I just I I it was just like a really weird thing to Ego Surplus cash was like trust me there's places I
43:53
mean yeah I've got a friend I'm not gonna name drop it who works in it it took him ages to get a whiteboard for
43:59
the Department yeah if the it Department's struggling to get a whiteboard let alone tag and he's
44:05
chucking your Surplus cash out at random because they're still very um uh was it all purchases had to go
44:12
through like one person in marketing at least uh no I think it's across the business yeah and then like all the
44:19
purchases had to go through them because I think it was still a bit um from from The Lord of the Rings times
44:25
where they perhaps spent a bit too much and they were still very much in that mentality I just want a whiteboard so
44:32
yeah again I'm not in the business of like name dropping out folks like that is
44:37
that there is baggage to that yeah because she watched a lot of her colleagues lose the job lose the jobs
44:43
yeah yeah so she was very mindful of where money was being spent where it was going I mean when I was in the um
44:49
photography studio managing it I wanted to get this High Glide system which was about 10 grand yeah and because there
44:55
was all this sort of health and safety issue about there was so many cables on the floor yeah and with the cables being
45:00
on the floor it meant that you had to have bigger gaps between setups so what was I think seven setups got reduced to
45:07
five yeah because of 70 cables and what we wanted to do was get this High Glide system so all the cables will be up high
45:12
yeah all the lights and cameras could be on like these concertina things and you can just move them around so it's like
45:17
that way and they could slide on that cool so you'd have like you can have more setups again but all your cables are up yeah so then you know you could
45:24
be closer together and we we got a couple of folks into to do some quotes and stuff and 10 10 grand was for the
45:29
whole room the studio but she just wouldn't go for it because there's just too much money yeah but yeah they'll Chuck 40 Grand
45:35
warmer plus backdrop that now no longer gets used oh yeah for uh master class or
45:41
Master Class 40 Grand 40 Grand yeah I didn't know that yeah it was a lot of money wow I mean that probably includes
45:47
like other bits as well like um props and stuff it's a nice backdrop yeah
45:53
um but for it to not be used now because it's rarely look at people's faces I mean I've I've talked about my thoughts
45:59
on the Citadel masterclass backdrop uh before in that I don't really like it because
46:04
it's just a big Orange Box yeah that you can't really do loads with one of the things I found really bizarre with it
46:10
was there's so much storage space and yet all those drawers were empty yes there's nothing in there yes it was like
46:16
a real PPI in the curtain yeah yeah yeah it's like I mean I remember uh literally a facade so my biggest book bag I'm
46:23
gonna blame yourself for this because she was terrible at it as well OMG here's a title yeah
46:29
peachyce and luckily me and Raph would from time to time would go to the backdoor because he would film songs as
46:34
well as like Martin's yeah guys at 10. we I used to I set up all the paints at the back and there's like a little
46:40
corner thing of the paints but oh you have a habit of separating yeah so they look Naf when they're all separated yeah
46:47
so I'd have to go around and shake them Suggs was awful she'd always just forget to shake them so you'd start like seeing all like oh in the background in the
46:53
background all the colors or even like the ones at the front they'll just be like if it was um corax white it would be korax black
47:00
because when it separates yeah it goes black which I still can't fathom like it's a white paint you shake it it goes
47:05
white but it looks like oil I don't understand it's weird science in it yeah yeah uh but yeah
47:12
there's always like all these paint pots are just like separated and just look white and horrid and it's like just shake the paint shake the paints but
47:19
they're just I'm gonna go back and watch I I well I don't think it's six I'll probably be blurred out before yeah yeah
47:24
I've probably been a bit overly this is have you still got 100 plus Jeff
47:29
yes yeah when was the last time you logged into it uh
47:36
because I and I've still got it and I'm an absolute clown yeah I I can't remember the last time because I think
47:42
it renews in like August doesn't it I need to make sure I cancel it because I just haven't used it I watched the um I
47:49
keep minutes ago my Warriors animation um and that was the last thing I watched
47:54
the main thing I could mean is go back into it is is Suggs did a video on doing um fluids in bottles yes yeah and
48:00
there's two and I want it for the death guard no no for the uh the the the
48:05
bottles that are on the the arm of the medic from the scouts oh yeah yeah just to see how today they've got yeah my
48:12
canisters there yeah but I wouldn't mind doing that
48:18
yeah uh what were we just talking about my brain is see that
48:24
what how many minutes are we now so you can beat that too yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you forgot you forgot yeah
48:32
Warhammer plus oh yeah the problem I've got is I think what I'll do this year I think I'll uh see what the figure is uh
48:39
if I don't want it I'll probably no that didn't when I was at Workshop
48:45
because you'd sometimes get things to review so I didn't see the point and I just never got around to getting it and yeah as much as I like some of the
48:51
figures I just like I can't justify that yeah the problem is it's such a crap Shooters knickers year one was great
48:57
because you got well I took the vindica Assassins yeah yeah which is nice to
49:02
look up but to be fair not really usual in the game because you can't walk scenery around the table I disagree
49:07
tactical rocks yeah come on I can walk them around tactical half destroyed sisters
49:15
yeah yeah it is always in cover wherever he goes he's always yeah um
49:21
um so I like the first one and the great thing is is that with that is it's obviously open to be used in a myriads
49:26
of armies yeah Imperial can have it but then obviously got to year two and it
49:32
was like if you're not playing Warhammer fantasy it's you know you you you're not
49:37
going to want that and it's chaos but then if you play 40K it's chaos as well and it's like yeah you see how your thoughts about those I I think you've
49:44
hit the nail on that day it's like if it's a 40K figure it's it could it could be something that
49:50
one Grand Alliance could make use of so Imperial or chaos or eight yeah yeah
49:55
um and it's not always gonna be for everyone every year if you're in if you're a zenos player this character yeah like a zote you know they have like
50:03
keywords and stuff like it could be like oh that's a cool and and also there's that that sort of some there's something
50:09
for everyone I get it but every now and again I'm just like yep that's a really Niche specific thing like you have to be
50:15
collecting iron yours for this guy yeah as cool as he is you know you need to have a not even a destruction I mean
50:21
where's like kragnos um I know that's a big kit but something smaller scale yeah that's like kragnos
50:29
there is Destruction for age of stigma so it could be for any destruction yeah yeah um is more usable for a whole plethora
50:36
people as opposed to this one thing for this very one small faction for a game that yeah some people argue is not great
50:42
but I disagree yeah it's harder it's hard on the 40K side because it's either yeah the biggest thing is if if you make
50:48
an agent of the Imperium then great you you're laughing and you potentially could make a generic looking chaos
50:55
Marine but you know that one was very much a a coronation oh yeah massively it
51:01
was based on artwork yeah yeah I mean for instance sorry is like a really cool
51:07
chaos character that any chaos Army could really use right for a long long time so it's that kind of like taking that element of something that all chaos
51:14
players can make use of and taking some of the all Imperial players can make use of Cipher is really good because he can
51:20
be used by Imperials and Chaos yeah and then they're going well I play Orcs or I play Eldar and exactly yeah I guess
51:27
it's very true if you don't if you don't paint for fun yeah they're not they can potentially not be great I think just a
51:34
broader audience for each of the things would be cool but I I also know that sometimes maybe go mad do three do three
51:41
yeah I could be wrong and I'm sure someone can correct me
51:46
um but I think a lot of the time it is just someone's just scored something cool and they've had it hanging around
51:51
for a long time yeah let's turn that into woman plus figure yeah um and then I as I know as well there
51:57
are a lot because Miniatures is very organized they do have like things that are in place that this is going to be
52:03
for this this is going to be for this yeah and then sometimes you have like the odd whim I remember when the design studio used to be all one
52:09
thing used to be yeah the sculpts in there yeah the artists in there yeah painters in there every Department that
52:14
made a product that was paper and game and Miniatures were all in one room then they they set off and made their own
52:20
little departments he had like um hobby products you had Miniatures and you had what was called Publications
52:26
then black Library only did its own things publication became books and box games so the painters were like every
52:32
matter went down to the sculptors made sense because they're painting and stuff for the packaging so they're dealing quite close with the school just yeah
52:38
the other painters wanted to stay with books and box or Publications because we're all making stuff for the books yeah but we went down with Miniatures so
52:43
half the time all painting stuff that was of no use to the studio so there's a whole bunch of armies that we did and
52:49
this is like a behind the curtain kind of thing during that time the Army painters grew in size because it was like me Stephen Duncan then it got to
52:56
yeah like more people would have been hiding like Tom and now and then other people coming on top of that wheel painting Army is no one used in
53:02
Publications eventually they got used eventually but because no one had any idea what they were doing the sculptures
53:08
are sculpting these things in a minute let's just paint an army for it and make it really really big and it helps yeah they're like doing a campaign that has nothing to do with that yeah so you had
53:15
like two sort of like departments that weren't really as always communicating with each other yeah um so up in books
53:20
and box games they were using Hobby collections of like the photographers and the graphic designers I mean that
53:28
reminds me of uh battle report yeah this is the thing it's like you've got a department that paints Mark armors as a
53:34
as a profession yeah and yeah you haven't you're at a point where you're having to use people's personal hobby we
53:40
talked about this in the early days of the show didn't we yeah when you not long left the idea that a company of
53:45
that size yeah has to borrow an army of somebody because at one point you said to me didn't you you know oh much of
53:51
your death guards Army's painted yeah yeah because it was but you think that's it's Preposterous yeah yeah yeah and I
53:58
know you're a man on the inside and me going oh well I think you should do this when I've never done that I know but you
54:03
think you should be saying that it should always be unarmy painted of
54:09
everything in a draw for when it's needed for Warhammer Plus for battle reports yeah instead of just yeah and
54:15
going well you can't borrow the special ones for the box art yes yeah yeah you can't have a company that
54:22
size that makes its own Plus sticks makes its own paints has its own painters and then has to borrow an army yeah yeah that's like me going halfway
54:29
down the street knocking on Mrs Smith's door and going have you got any scissors I can borrow your kitchen drawer I've got someone who needs a haircut yeah
54:35
yeah yeah I think it came down to like the planning of stuff um and the and the deadlines like you're
54:42
right but you still there they still haven't fixed it now right yeah I remember the heavy metal collections
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were used by white dwarf and all sorts of things for the bat reports and stuff um and then it got to the point where
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they were spending too long painting them that they were like become super precious that it was like each model was worth an iPad yes uh yeah very expensive
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it's like cool yeah don't don't touch them just look at them yeah the time the time that's been invested
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like into that miniature by a professional painter it's now worth like a hell of a lot of money yeah but it was
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just really I always found it really bizarre painting all these armies and over time they did get used a lot um when at least we tried to make it in
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case but when me and Steve moved up to Publications then was more focused to like we need this Army for this book we
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need this arm so that's when like the end times books were like becoming a big thing so we were painting particular
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units for particular roles in the story to be used in photography and then obviously 40K was the same thing you're
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like really focused on the things they were great yeah yeah I do remember we had one guy
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um and I don't know if he was colorblind or what but he was obsessed by Brown you
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painted everything Brown everything so what I was doing a load of
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um dark elves for the grand faction because in um is cane book apologies for
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this eruption is Grand the the name of that massive battering ram that they use in return it's the Hammer of the
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underworld because it's um morgoth and sauron's mace it's called Grand Theft Auto yeah but they're in the dark
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there's a city called Grand which is a dark elf City oh cool in Warhammer the world that was or Old World
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um this this Army for for the cane books there was like loads what I really like about the King book was it was like yeah
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dark Hills working with high heels working with dark elves it was all over the place it was great so you try and tie your color schemes in a little bit
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to try and make them look a bit goody look a bit Baddie yeah so I was doing like this Grand Factory had like quite turquoisy Shields and I was like doing
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like banners and stuff and he was like oh I've got to I get to paint a unit of swordsman together your stuff I was like cool Wicked there's the color scheme you
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can knock yourself ahead it comes back and it's like he's painted The Shield's Brown so there's no like bright dark elf color the arm is brown the robes are
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brown I'm like there's a lot of brown on here and he's like yeah it looks cool just like no it looks awful it's just
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like spin your eyes can you see anything no oh crikey it looks like that they're
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just like chocolate toys right now like just hang them off your Christmas tree or something like that it's just
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like yeah I mean there was a lot of learning in those early days of that guy but there's quite a bit similar than them early days for you about to help
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you black people down gently I mean I I I sort of like I I I used to
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be quite tame and terrible but I was just abridging it yeah it wasn't a bridge version you could say it looks a
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bit homogeneous yes it looks a bit safe what were you thinking get out stop
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crying yeah he's just you see him just melting their milk over an entire Army
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oh we did a a project for oh what was it it was for warmer TV and we wanted to it
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was something to do with Marines and I can't remember now the the it was definitely a video promotional video it was chocolate we made
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um into sesamarines and chocolate um and we got someone who was a bit of a
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chocolatier in the studio as always his Workshop you find someone that can do the job a bit yes and get to do it so they went home and started making molds
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of like Spaceman but they all came out a bit rough some there was like one that was like really good so we could like use it and eat it yeah the rest were all
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very weird yeah so we had to fudge it literally and uh oh wait wait wait wait wait for
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the audience yeah you're an idiot
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that is a very true statement but I I painted a load of Marines to look like chocolate and by God they look like
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chocolate I was so proud because I even did like the really you know when chocolate gets a bit on the edges yeah it's a bit lighter yes it goes a bit
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white yes I was like just making full use of drive with dry brush it's really good to make things with like chocolate yeah there's a lot of use of like
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catches for the show dry broth soup dry brushes good for making things look like
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chocolate yeah yeah but yeah so most of those figures weren't chocolate they were just painted to like chocolate
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apart from the one they got it that's your thumbnail 40K chocolate Marines yeah lies
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you heard it here first folks yeah oh Deary me oh that's hilarious we segued a bit didn't we again yeah again what
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we're gonna say yeah with the battle report stuff I know like that every metal uh they just produce literally
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what is needed for the box art don't they so like you wouldn't be able to get an army out of heavy metal stuff because
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you'd be like but I need another 20 intercessors and you'd be like well they don't exist yeah yeah I was always the
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sometimes you'd have to add stuff to the existing armors and you see like with assist the battle you'll see
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um in some of the codexes there's like a unit of celestial
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um sisters sisters Celestial if you've got the chord now the elite ones that have like they have like the fleur-de-lis on the Hillman like I said
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it's just an upgrade to a unit so it's a bit more veteran okay um and I can tell by the Basin and also
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some of the red that they've been painted by the Army painting team yeah um just to bulk out the outmarted lady
1:00:01
collection but then you paint your own collection the Army painters and do one of
1:00:06
everything or a couple of everything so you have like a few emulators yeah an exorcist and a whole bunch of squads and
1:00:12
stuff but yeah it was always a bit sort of but I was part and part of the job anyway and for a long time when you just
1:00:17
look and go yep so they've got one Squad of these one Squad of those one Squad of those for a game you need like a couple of squads of those you need a couple
1:00:24
more tanks so so many like times when we just had to add to the collections which was good fun to be fair yeah and at
1:00:30
distance looked similar close up definitely not yeah well even even on
1:00:35
the heavy metal side of things they they flood your donkey because sometimes when you go and look at the um when you go and look at stuff on games workshops
1:00:42
website you can tell it's just the Photoshop and of the same because that miniature will be in there twice the
1:00:47
same pose will potentially be oh right okay yeah yeah they just cut they just cut and paste the other one in as well
1:00:52
so I haven't paid us enough attention for that I don't think I always see that I always get moments of Pride every now and again when I see like some of my
1:00:57
stuff on the back the back of packaging oh right because it's like it's an old tank I did like donkeys years ago and uh
1:01:03
like a blood Angel tank or like an Imperial Guard tank that was done in the days of me being in the Army painting team because they didn't have the
1:01:10
resources to do lots of stuff but over the time people have forgotten it's not painted
1:01:27
why'd you do this but so this is what so you have a tank that would be in like
1:01:33
Army shops yeah there was a few space Wolf ones a few blood Angel ones a few Imperial Guard ones and then like some yeah there was on the website sitting I
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don't know if it's on the back of the box now but there was a daughter of Kane um I think it was the blood wrap producer yeah um they didn't have
1:01:47
because they did all the parts separate so The Cauldron on the blood rack on the cold and the blood they'd take out
1:01:53
either the hag Crone halliburon who's now like a Slaughter Queen I think and then the blood dragon producer you just
1:01:59
like Swap and change those characters and then Swap and change the two crew because if you had the blood reduce you had like these uh doors that came with
1:02:05
like face masks and yeah sticks where if it was just an old daughter came on they just had little daggers and stuff
1:02:10
um so I built and painted a blood reducer Shrine yeah it keeps finding its way onto packaging and like um websites
1:02:17
and stuff like that I was like that's really it was a quick job why it's embarrassing take it off we need to get
1:02:25
we need to get people to find as many pictures of this tank and send them to us yeah there's a lot of like spaceful
1:02:31
vehicles I did that just I don't know if they're still there now because obviously it's all moving on to like the
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new intercessors and yeah um
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which is probably a good thing yeah yeah potentially that's not a good thing it is yes
1:02:51
from time to time you see them we go oh I did that yeah yeah that must be cool I
1:02:57
remember when we were doing the um I think the black Templars had been announced and we were doing a battle report to try and get them in and it was
1:03:04
the black Templar upgrades through um and there was like a gunner you could put on a Repulsor yeah um and that was
1:03:12
there was an Army painted tank and that was the only one in existence um and us and the photographers was just
1:03:19
sort of like okay can we have it on this day and this day they're like yeah but we needed back on that day and that day and then it's like filming over runs and
1:03:25
then they sat on the other and there's just people running backwards and forwards from photography studio to marketing with the black uh oh yeah like
1:03:32
really useful box yeah um and yeah so if you ever see anybody running across probably because they've
1:03:39
got unreleased models and they don't want you to see it don't do that don't do we don't condone
1:03:46
violence or the Theft Auto he's not tripping hit him with a door
1:03:53
like yeah poor Mark when he smashed at the custodians Army twice yeah because
1:03:59
it's it's really interesting um just stupid anecdote I remember thinking like you know I've left Games
1:04:05
Workshop we started this podcast like what I saw behind the scenes things that people might find interesting and one
1:04:11
thing that I thought about I don't think I've ever said because just in case someone does something silly was if you
1:04:17
see someone walking across with a black really useful box it absolutely has unreleased product in it
1:04:23
um but recently and because I was like oh but what if like somebody steals it and puts photos of it online or
1:04:29
something like that I was like I don't want to be responsible for for that having happened yeah but Games Workshop
1:04:34
now just send unreleased product to people yeah beforehand yeah so it's fine
1:04:40
yeah it's just happened quite a lot I I well I think it was on the stomper was made
1:04:46
um and events used to be downstairs so um you've got like the bridge of kazadoo
1:04:51
and you head towards like the big bike shed so yeah yeah yeah yeah you're looking away now from the entrance towards yes yeah walking down to like
1:04:58
yeah and there's like a little doorway on the left-hand side and there's like a downstairs but Forge was there for a time I've done it was there now but um
1:05:04
eventually used to be there and what he's no longer with workshop and he was he left Workshop quite quickly after
1:05:10
this but I remember he had stomper on the window right next so ground floor
1:05:16
and it was like he was working on it as a hobby project bear in mind it was like not released at this point oh okay and
1:05:22
it was right next to the window so people were taking photos of it and it's like you're an idiot I don't understand what I'm getting in trouble I can't just
1:05:29
do my hobby it's like I think this is why we have ndas now and yeah and frosted Windows Windows because of this
1:05:36
one guy tell me what I'm impressed talking about ndas they are at um Warhammer Fest they did a evening for uh
1:05:45
oh like the creators yeah oh yes yeah yeah we had a great time at it
1:05:50
well you have to be on like the influencer program don't you yeah of which we are not and neither was like
1:05:56
the middle to Minis and stuff like that good boys listen that's most um but anyway they showed them a load of
1:06:03
stuff that's yet not come out and I tell you what I'm impressed that people are holding their water so well which shows you how well that NDA can actually work
1:06:09
yeah yeah because I guess like like because someone said that and I thought I'll know what that is by next week yeah
1:06:15
it's been and gone and I'm still none the wiser yeah good yeah because they haven't announced anything
1:06:21
am I right in thinking that they haven't announced anything New Leviathan post Leviathan yeah because I guess they're
1:06:26
just focusing on that because you know you think that's going to happen and I'm a sucker for this and I know it's gone because it happened with uh with
1:06:32
indomitis is that you're gonna buy well you don't have to but people are going to buy
1:06:37
um the contents of Leviathan yeah and then Solitaire in it well no yeah and
1:06:42
I've already got mine sold and then in six months time they'll then do the better version of
1:06:48
the kits that were in there anyway yeah yeah and I always fall for it because I bought blade Guard veteran
1:06:54
which blade Guard veteran we're in yeah yeah yeah they came shield and swords and that was all your ads and then when
1:06:59
you then six months down the line they released them again in a box and you could have cleaning the sword having a
1:07:05
pistol you know swords and a sheath no swords out and all the rest I know an
1:07:11
absolutely amazing level of options was in there yeah loads of helmeted heads and you know and unhamilton heads and
1:07:17
all the rest of it and they were so much better than the ones that were in the box and this is the thing is the thing is you Rush full Leviathan of which I
1:07:23
will be one of those people but you know that in six months time there'll be a new Terminator kit with all of the options see I want to do it from us on
1:07:30
stand guards as well because they have a massive amount of options for standard staying guards are you know it's a sort
1:07:36
of Special Forces thing take the gun that best suits you [Music]
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but in the Box it'll be you've got that and the go out and that and that and that and that's it and but you know
1:07:47
he'll do this to you they'll do it and I'll fall for it yeah I was wondering from a sculptor's point of view if you prefer to do the box set or if you
1:07:53
prefer to do them separate because in my head I'm thinking separate's a lot easier to sculpt because you don't have
1:07:59
to worry about all like the the jigsaw puzzle that is push fit yeah um so when you're doing the set like if
1:08:07
you're doing like the stone guard for the set it's like they're all fitting like certain ways to push it I I'm not sculptor they're really pleased they
1:08:13
look more complicated from a sculpting Point yeah it sounds like they're really really happy with the um the new Terminators the way they've designed
1:08:19
them on on the on the Posh Vickers apparently it sort of looks like they sort of lever through themselves so a
1:08:24
lot of the bits that would be like the oh cool the um a lot of like the the mold lines and so on and things all end
1:08:31
up behind stuff so you can see them oh great so stuff like that that's interesting the way they've done them like that it's
1:08:37
like that with the um it's like that with the Crusader box when I was building a new one the other
1:08:44
day and they've got a big seam down the front of their Shin but it doesn't matter because then the actual Shin goes
1:08:50
over the top yeah it's quite cleverly designed oh that's good yeah it's that thing they've gone I'm gonna buy all
1:08:56
these and then in six months I'm gonna have more of them anyway yeah I know the only option on the new Terminators is uh
1:09:02
Sergeant's helmathon or helmet off oh and that's it and then if it comes with his helmet off you can then still have
1:09:08
him with uh a scooped out helmet so you can put it on his belt or on the floor oh okay yeah other than that that's it
1:09:15
and and I fall for it every I fall for it yeah yeah I mean they did that with
1:09:21
the like the Dominion sex I'm a big fan of like the storm the new stormcast the Thunderstruck and the way that they're
1:09:26
molded because you get like gaps down joins of like Greaves and armor and that's yeah but they had like separate you you add
1:09:33
choice of helmet head or not helmet head every single modeling that's it every single model yeah it's great so like if
1:09:39
you decide to do the Lord inheritant you have like helmet sculpted beard on helmet yeah beer did
1:09:45
man yeah it looks very much like you two uh except without the question yeah yeah
1:09:50
but I just yeah I love it when you you the the mold lines are minimized by like clever fitting yeah it is always a big
1:09:58
tip of the hand the thing I hope they fix this time around because I think it's it's caused some so much problems
1:10:04
themselves put the bloody characters on on Spruce of their own because of the
1:10:09
problem because then the problem you've got is if you don't you then can't release them and you end up with this
1:10:15
whole lot of big problem they kind of do now don't they because they do the whole sprue so like if you've got Dominion all
1:10:21
the good guy characters are on one sprue yeah but there is like the odds of a
1:10:26
storm cast here in the odds uh prey tour here and stuff the problem was wasn't it which was it sounds like a minor thing
1:10:33
but it was a big problem if you were starting an Army Post um post-doc Imperium was that um you
1:10:39
couldn't get a captain for your death guard Army oh right the thing you need to be in you know the the the the laws
1:10:46
of corruption contagion Lord of contagion thank you you couldn't get one if you didn't get the set yeah yeah oh
1:10:53
right and it's to the point that the actor brings out an old character and say he's a loads of corruption and he
1:10:58
comes well he's when you buy him he still comes with extra Terminators yeah and he's your guy because the other one
1:11:04
was stuck on a sprue with other stuff yeah yeah speaking of death guard players how are you feeling about uh
1:11:11
disgustingly resilient been removed oh I I've got to be honest with regards 10th
1:11:16
edition and all these little Snippets of what the armies have got coming out I'm I'm doing I've got two outlooks one is
1:11:24
I'm not gonna whinge now because they've only showed you a couple of a couple of units and there's other units that when
1:11:29
they come out could be absolutely amazing yeah yeah no one's soon you know one of the bulks of a death guard Army is pox Walkers no one said what pox
1:11:36
Walkers can or can't do yeah so I'll wait till they all come out and then I'll worry and then when I have a whinge
1:11:41
I only have to have a window till the Codex turns up and then everything will probably be if they've really struggled
1:11:46
yeah on just the data cards in tournament yeah by the time they get around to to codex there might be some
1:11:53
tweaks and improvements so I'm trying not to think the sky is falling down it's
1:11:58
not great but I'm trying to just go look I'll I'll if you take this off me but then say
1:12:05
you know these things are 10 times better than they were then you go well then you know I'll I'll take my chances
1:12:10
so I'm I'm being as pragmatic about it as I can yeah yeah and if it goes really bad I know where they work I'll just
1:12:16
spend a Time wow you're here first well no you need to you know start The Wood Yard first
1:12:22
yeah I'll do the whole lot they can have one big Mega complex yeah with a Spire that
1:12:30
can be seen for Three Counties yeah you should be a guy at the Woodyard and I I think he loved his job he used to just
1:12:36
every when it was sunny right when it was sunny you'd have his radio out because you could see him at the front you have like oh you know I guess it's
1:12:42
like a forklift but it was just for long planks it was just like a big little like little motorized trolley vehicle
1:12:47
they had all these long Planks on it and his his job because sometimes obviously we're probably spending less time
1:12:53
working watching this guy doing his job yeah making Cups of Tea in the tea room but it would literally just get like all
1:12:59
these these planks take them all off turn upside down then get another Bunch on
1:13:04
and then put them on the machine and take it away so is I guess it was to stop warping you just don't use big stacks of like planks and you just take
1:13:11
ages just taking them neatly off yeah turn them upside down put them to one side then the ones that have been left
1:13:17
there for a day or so to then grab those put them on the vehicle upside down again and then draw it back
1:13:23
in come back and then start on the next Lance start the next lap let's just say and he was loving it he's just there with his radio on and listening to radio
1:13:29
one because you could hear it because we used to have the windows open and stuff like that yeah it's just like what what a happy man good just just turning wood
1:13:36
I love the whole day every day I love hard work I could watch it all day
1:13:42
it's good watching people work harder right [Laughter] I like that like Dad said it was like oh
1:13:50
I I hate watching a woman work when my woman's like making dinner I hate watching a woman work that's why I always look away
1:13:57
and I'm like Dad help her out because I wanted you like this is like yeah why
1:14:02
didn't you all right sorry obviously the weekend just how
1:14:07
sexist the society was in not that long ago yeah I remember I used to cover one leave from the Army and me and my gran
1:14:14
me and my father used to go to my grandparents to have our Sunday dinner and
1:14:19
um we get there my grandmother bless her um she's a Derbyshire girl she was she was Tiny and she would be in there
1:14:27
and you know the steam coming out of the kitchen when you're doing when you're doing a Sunday dinner and we come in and
1:14:32
I go I now and just go I hope it helps I'm going to talk to her about five minutes she went I'll speak to you properly in a bit because that was at
1:14:38
the point we grabbed my grandfather went to the pub and waited to be phoned for dinner oh my God
1:14:44
wow that would that would not hold up in the house imagine no yeah literally
1:14:50
you'll just stop the woman about the counter would just shout my dad and go your mum's on the phone says Dinner's
1:14:55
Done Right okay we'll finish these just you know Jesus I just thought I could be you like going around the house doing
1:15:01
the Hoover which is great exercise by doing household chores is a great source of exercise I sweat like a mofo yeah but
1:15:08
like I've been finishing your friend I'll be like oh I've got a cup of tea sit down Liz will just see me like sat down he sat down can't have this did you
1:15:15
know this needs to do and I was like okay I'll get up and do that then Charlie's uh draw's still broken or this
1:15:20
is this these deal this these two I'm just like yes darling okay she will not let me sit down it's just watch this going yes I do yes you do don't you're
1:15:27
great yeah where is it like very in a good way yeah it's not like you know I just go home wait for my egg and chips
1:15:34
on a Tuesday and then rant at the wife because the egg's not you know sunny side up or whatever yeah yeah gone on
1:15:40
those days hopefully thank God yeah I'm sure somewhere out there there's people who still get to go
1:15:46
to shop and get and wait to get the phone call I'm sure there are oh yeah yeah what they've done is they put in
1:15:51
the microwave or the slow cooker and it's their own meal yeah
1:15:56
slow cookers are so good
1:16:02
I got a joke about Mrs Peter I'm not going to say because she'll kill me yeah yeah moving on six ages she takes ages
1:16:15
on the dishwasher excuse me [Laughter]
1:16:21
unbelievable now I ever spent many times I just put like a roast on something like that we've got a chili con carne it
1:16:27
was just like let's go out we'll come back dinner's ready yeah I mean I mean that's yeah amazing yeah I love one pot
1:16:33
stuff I love cooking one pot stuff um like oh is it like chorizo rice and
1:16:38
chicken he's jambalaya or something like that I don't know you Chuck it all in one pan something like that and you're
1:16:44
just like yep you just leave it for like an hour and then you just have tasty goodness afterwards see with pans and
1:16:50
stuff like I'm always like paranoid like it'll just stick to the bottom yeah yeah I guess you have to occasionally stir it yeah
1:16:55
slow cooked Currys or slow cooked chilies are phenomenal yeah the only thing we're struggling with at the
1:17:01
minute I said it sounds like this is a proper first of all problem is when you when you cook a chicken uh you're slow cooking the chicken it's getting the
1:17:07
timer out because you're like cool the chicken's done you pick up it just Falls to pieces
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[Music]
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I just get visions of like Predator too when he's like cleaning the skull oh
1:17:38
yeah yeah yeah yeah I watched Predator 2 recently actually I think it stands up really well as yeah
1:17:44
and because why did it have to be Birds white birds I love that guy I
1:17:52
I arguably sometimes think it might be best I think it's better I think I say
1:17:58
like I feel like I'd feel the barrageous now that yeah whether you have issues
1:18:05
with the actors or not uh I used to love watching Lethal Weapon um as a kid uh cool action film and it
1:18:11
felt a bit like Lethal Weapon meets predator
1:18:19
there's a couple of like downed cup um motorcycle cops and he like leans out the car yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I
1:18:25
have a lot of time for a lot of time for presents too yeah I yeah I enjoyed it I enjoyed it and you get you learn a
1:18:32
little bit more about the Predators at the end yeah yeah and he's always so old yeah and
1:18:38
then that was that pistol that they pull out at the end of Predator 2 is out of prey and that's in prey like the new one
1:18:43
that's on Disney plus and that was good and the funny thing about that was they didn't have the original prop as you can imagine it
1:18:51
was a long time ago yeah yeah but there was a guy who's a massive Predator fan had made the pistol from Predator oh
1:18:57
amazing presence to be used oh brilliant yeah yeah so speaking of movies and because the only
1:19:04
downside to that is it makes put a really bad end and on prey is because she ends up with that pistol
1:19:10
and then the Predator ends up with our pistol which would suggest that the princesses went to Med as all the Indians in the end or they uh maybe she
1:19:17
gave it in yeah yeah if they give you this will you go yeah yeah oh yeah yeah I've been after one of those part of the
1:19:23
collection cheers darling yeah yeah but it's also suggests that they all get murdered predators do is they go to plan and go
1:19:29
got need desperately need super shiny right gonna go there yeah yeah that was the name of our first episode
1:19:37
yeah of course it was I'd just say just when you um I'd love I'd love a cockney Predator
1:19:43
he'd be like yeah cheers darling Predator yeah played by
1:19:51
um oh God I forgot his name now Jace hamsters no no he's been in like movies
1:19:56
and Danny Dyer there we are no I know I'm off I'm done no stupid
1:20:02
idea senior older presence of being Ray Winston oh yeah oh yeah like a yeah do a
1:20:08
British gangster movie but uh it's all predators yeah like Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels Predators
1:20:15
um it's like Pride and Prejudice and Zombies yeah anything Predators yeah yeah I think that'll be cool I think it
1:20:21
was a real run in like the Lee I want to say late 80s early 90s of somebody versus the Predators was always a thing
1:20:27
I I think I've read it as Batman [Music]
1:20:34
looking down Batman's looking pretty much top of his game he's waiting yeah yeah yeah yeah and I've seen it as Judge
1:20:40
Dredd as well interesting oh that is interesting pretty cool I don't know
1:20:45
it's all been uh All Quiet on the on that front in terms of Warhammer movie
1:20:51
bits and bobs at the moment they just got very quiet so there's no in the Amazon yeah the Henry Cavill thing
1:20:56
because they were like we have an agreement in principle and then just nothing so I remember someone in the
1:21:02
comments uh sorry I've forgot you know because it was such a long time ago now but they they made a valid point saying
1:21:07
a lot of these things never go through arbitrary and said you know I'll I'll
1:21:13
you know believe it when I see it sorts of things yeah you know because yeah we're working in theater he says the
1:21:18
amount of things that go through ideas and then need to be funded and get back it wasn't commented then I don't know
1:21:24
someone definitely I don't think yeah he said it on the he said it on a show this is
1:21:30
acid Paris fashion did back on here yeah try something yeah there's something that was like I think agreeing and they
1:21:35
give their reasons why because they worked in the industry as well but yeah it wasn't yeah yeah but um I don't know I wonder what's going to happen with
1:21:41
that I mean I hope it goes through it might be it might just be now in the really boring legal phase of just you know
1:21:47
Financial backers and one thing or another I remember um oh God it was way before so I did
1:21:55
Foundation um so it's like year zero of uni um and I did that for a minute then I
1:22:01
thought you were talking about the Galaxy so that was 2 000 but I remember
1:22:09
prior to that was there was things put in white dwarf about Lord of the Rings
1:22:15
and then I remember someone at least a couple years before that talking about they're making a Lord of the Rings movie and that was like a good three four
1:22:20
years before it was even like probably announced so yeah it takes all they
1:22:27
announced they announced the day follow any Star Wars movies didn't he that will will wrap all of this era then I'll
1:22:33
recall and the new Republic era will get wrapped up yeah like the Mando verse yeah the Mando vest but they're now
1:22:39
already saying yeah maybe 2028 27 2012. what you're going to need to because I
1:22:45
think obviously Mando season four is going to happen yeah Soca will probably have a second season yeah and all the
1:22:50
rest of it yeah yeah yeah yeah you know something you've got to give some breathing so I'm not shocked when things take a while now I do think that we and
1:22:57
as a Star Wars fan um there's been a lot of stuff folks on Skywalkers like that that yeah
1:23:03
generation that era of like the Clone Wars to the skywalks and it's good and you know the characters we grew up with
1:23:08
as kids and like obviously other people have grown up with if I'm watching the the prequels and stuff but Old Republic
1:23:14
there's like thousands and thousands of years of stuff I mean there's lots of stuff like making some films the guy
1:23:21
that the guy that is it not the guy that directed um Logan yeah James James mango gold he's
1:23:28
doing one that's like at the very beginning of the force and apparently they'll play us all a bit like old-fashioned big big gold fashioned Ben
1:23:35
hairstyle oh right Ben hairstyle not Ben hairstyle Ben hair style yeah movie I I
1:23:42
like of all that you know that biblical sorts of foundation of the Jedi kind of thing yeah it could be a TV series next
1:23:49
year Avenue the acolyte yes 100 years before Phantom Menace oh right which is
1:23:55
about the very beginnings of the Jedi realize in the Sith of Russ hand yeah which I think I'll be quite cool yeah
1:24:01
actually it's that I'm fully enough that's good did you see a Jedi walk into a wall and go oh no my vision is clouded
1:24:06
the Sith are back talking to Logan is one of the Jedi is the um
1:24:12
is the the young lady who was in um his dark materials and also played
1:24:17
the Clone oh yeah yeah played the well not the Clone but she was genetic material of Logan yeah yeah oh oh yeah
1:24:24
yeah she's playing one that she's actually playing it's quite interesting an alien um an alien Jedi oh cool it
1:24:31
should be fun I'm on um yeah I still wonder like what uh the Warhammer TV
1:24:37
shows would be I'm on book two of Eisenhower and as I'm driving around in my camera oh that's cool I didn't know you'd started what do you think all of
1:24:43
them yeah Eisenhower's a badass um but just like just really cool read
1:24:48
so well he's such a brilliant voice as Toby yeah were you shocked when you you read xenos
1:24:55
and then you moved to malice which is the second one yeah the start you think it's the uh the pilot is the dude but it
1:25:01
ends up being his daughter yeah yeah yeah because I was like yeah oh cool
1:25:06
yeah so he's just carrying on but you know yeah what happened to him have you got this
1:25:12
far in have you got as far in book two of the parade yes that's horrific yeah so well written of something going
1:25:19
really completely was this the big uh yeah yeah and then the space mean like well the first thing that goes wrong is
1:25:25
doesn't earn one of these things yeah lightning yeah like there's
1:25:30
lightning Thunderbolts yeah yeah it's one of them hits another one doesn't it that's the beginning of the cycle yeah I
1:25:37
like um Rogue Cycles aren't the alpha level Cyprus yeah because they're uh they're prisoners yeah um and they're
1:25:44
showing them off that they got loads of them and then the flyby goes wrong and then I think they're like either possessed and then they start doing
1:25:49
attack runs yes the Marine ends up like just killing a load of people doesn't it yeah yeah yeah does it kill himself uh
1:25:54
no no um there's a Space Marine who picks up like a little girl and is like quick I will get you away from danger oh yes and
1:26:02
there's a uh Eisenhower notices like a brand on a foot yeah and it's like don't do it and the kid makes eisenhorn kill
1:26:09
the Marine oh yeah uh and he's about to kill himself but one of his mates like stops the bullet yeah um and he's like
1:26:16
oh my gun must have jammed because of all the psychic Frost yeah uh and then he's inquisitormate behind him he's like
1:26:22
no it's me you idiot point it away from your head
1:26:36
I know they always said that's probably where they will start but it's a place to start because if you you could almost
1:26:41
read Dyson horn without knowing the 40K Universe good so well
1:26:49
I think Eisen wanted to pop up entry level kind of thing whereas is a little bit more um
1:26:55
as I guess focused on one small part of a older battled Crusade or Battlefront
1:27:02
Crusaders yeah generic I say generic in like the loose systems like it is an Inquisitor yeah
1:27:08
dealing with politics and all the things that go for the Imperial it feels a little bit more focused yeah well it's coffee
1:27:14
it's a certain degree yeah yeah yeah I I love the Eisenhower novels yes yes those
1:27:20
loved in the first one that one where you know he picks up the guy who becomes his mate for a while as a fishing yes
1:27:25
the uh the Arbiter yes yeah and he's gonna he's gonna interrogate the guy psychically yeah and he says to him step
1:27:32
back and he sort of goes you know and he just sort of stands for his and he goes what's your name but he goes fishing
1:27:39
goes all right get it yeah yeah yeah yeah I yeah I really like that
1:27:44
yeah because it's some of the bits where the comedy it's it's still clever comedy it's not sort of slapstick but in a
1:27:51
serious setting and I think that makes sense it was like just remind me I don't know if I've imagined this but I'm sure there's a bit where they go to a planet
1:27:56
it's a very alien-esque Planet it's in book one I can't remember the geometry doesn't work yes there's an alien trying
1:28:04
to welcome them I'm gonna just kill it yes because you like looking pretty much point of view is that right
1:28:10
um so I think they they're chasing people that are after the necritude yeah yeah as you're getting everything yeah
1:28:18
absolutely so there after the chaos thing uh and they they sneak into the
1:28:24
um this place and there's like a handoff and then eisenhorn uh to try and get the
1:28:30
necroot is just like they're attacking and like pushes people over and then they all start I mean yeah yeah it kicks
1:28:36
it off yeah yeah uh but yeah book one I thought was great because I I since um I
1:28:42
realized that you you know uh wrath and Glory like the tabletop RPG I'm like you know we could have we could make like
1:28:48
essentially like you know go on an adventure and be in our own like eyes and Horn novels oh my God that'd be so
1:28:53
cool but I don't know enough about like the universe and like the language that's used and all that sort of stuff so I'm um
1:29:03
it's the worst coded way of speaking oh yeah like everyone's like isn't it
1:29:10
rose thorns oh so that's that and they go in there it's like yeah because I guess I guess
1:29:17
like it's meant to be their own secret language that nobody knows but they want the reader to go kind of have an
1:29:24
understanding so it's just like he always goes Rose Haber Aegis Hatton
1:29:29
Alpha and he's like no patterned Vengeance and it's like ah that means pattern explosion
1:29:34
[Laughter]
1:29:40
novel because I think it's just such a good job of explaining it is um the when
1:29:45
they're all sitting and they spot the um they just keep getting a glance of something don't they and then they
1:29:51
realize that they're all working for it um obviously dispatched on his own chaos
1:29:56
Marine he's working with a loads of cultures and Empress children yeah and then these days fuzzy armor yeah and
1:30:02
actually start to look at the armor it gives them all headaches yeah I thought that was really really clever
1:30:09
because he's an eisenhorn who can deal with that to some degree yes even he's struggling and on all the all the uh
1:30:15
Imperial Guardsmen are like throwing up and everything yeah yeah it's really good at making chaos feel more real yeah
1:30:21
because he does that With Honor Guard they there's um a shrine World in um God's ghost and
1:30:27
they go and they're basically they're fighting against these guys called The Infinity which are just like religious cultists for chaos yeah
1:30:33
um and they're getting such good progression they get to this massive great big Center like some big Shrine
1:30:40
basilicum Shrine thing and they're just like yeah we got there and then whatever I can't remember but um like gaun's like
1:30:46
oh hang on a minute I think this is a trap because the guys get to this this Central bit because there's always been this thing going off and they're like
1:30:52
why why has it been such a quick Advance it's you know we've had such resistance such a quick Advance yeah and this whole
1:30:59
like division are there in the center it's very much like when the uh the red
1:31:04
keep blows up in Game of Thrones with the Wildfire yeah um so this guy gets into he walks in
1:31:10
he's like an officer he's like you know oh yeah we got there we're talking the explained they got there and then suddenly they get to the center they all
1:31:15
start having these nosebleeds yeah and they'll start feeling really dizzy and people's noses no like yeah it's like
1:31:21
blood's exploding out of them and then he looks down and he's sick and there's like maggots and stuff like it's like what and then the entire place just
1:31:27
explodes with like demon um novel as well I can't remember which one it won but his new one where they're on
1:31:33
a planet and there's a small Detachment of chaos yes that's like they're all just like a really nasty bunch of guys
1:31:40
are they Empress children yes when uh is traitor General all that one is I think
1:31:45
and they are Behind Enemy Lines on a chaos held world yeah and it's the sons of SEC and you've got like a bunch of
1:31:52
um uh yeah uh Empress children there which are quite hard yeah yeah they're still there's a whole thing as well with
1:31:58
it which is really clever whereas um do you remember the bit where they're getting there stalked through the forest and you think they've been stalked by
1:32:05
some growling wild beast and it's just a it's a chaos possessed Rhino isn't it no it's the dreadnaughters
1:32:12
sergeant McColl and he's stalking um a beast and it ends up being like the
1:32:19
chaos Dreadnought but it's been blinded hanging open and like it's been blind and stuff like that and every time he
1:32:25
makes a noise his hearing is like really intense so it can tell where it is they're just like Auto cannons an area semicol has to like really because he's
1:32:32
like the badass Uber Scout yeah so he ends up like grenade in it in the face but yeah he even takes on the uh in the
1:32:40
old days when dracari or dark Eldor had mandrakes they'll basically like gimps yeah and leather and they're like super
1:32:47
like awesome assassins yeah whereas now mandrakes like Shadow Demons in the new law
1:32:52
um but in whichever yeah I think it's Salam archery fights him but yeah he has
1:32:58
a he has a face off with a with a super kinky assassin and kills him no he's sat
1:33:04
Scout Sergeant McCall well eisenhornster on the Eisenhower the novel starts with him fighting dark somebody who works
1:33:09
who's a Dark Eldar character doesn't he because when the novel starts the second one yeah he starts poisoning because he's poisoned and he's like I'm a dead
1:33:15
man yeah yeah and I'm like Eisenhower no it's not yeah
1:33:21
between the two books she's 63 years older than you wear it that was it was
1:33:26
interesting like the start of the second book um it felt like you missed a book yeah yeah yeah because it'd been like a
1:33:32
hundred years or something um but he was like I'm a dead man and this that knew there and we're going after this to get the antidote to this
1:33:39
two-part poison and then he gets stabbed with the second bit of poison and he's like well that's it I'm dead and then
1:33:45
and then it's just like I awoke weeks later and you're like I'm fine you were
1:33:51
just fine okay yeah like plot armor he's lost like a load of um feeling and like
1:33:57
nerves in his face he can't smile
1:34:36
you sort of get involved just for he likes the laugh and the adventure doesn't he yeah yeah like the one thing
1:34:41
I do really like about the books uh in a way is like the scale of everything so
1:34:47
in that parade in book two it was like oh here's like because it's miles longer yeah like miles long and it's like oh
1:34:54
there's a big flag and it's so big that a Dreadnought is like struggling to hold it and it's supported by force super
1:35:01
heavy Beyblade tanks down the street yeah yeah Titan casually
1:35:06
walks down this is a big Archway isn't it yeah because he's yeah but um and the really cool thing is like right we're
1:35:12
we're chasing these guys into the warp hell is going to take off 30 weeks yeah yeah I love the fact that hyperspace in
1:35:19
40K isn't that quick when you keep doing it yeah just like get everywhere in half an hour yeah yeah like like even less so
1:35:27
how like good they've done with the storytelling I guess is just like how big everything is and the scale of
1:35:33
everything and it's like right it takes you 30 weeks to get from point A to point B and then
1:35:39
um this parade is like hours and hours long yeah yeah and all that stuff even
1:35:45
the clever stuff that I like as well is because obviously this weird thing of 40K where everything's massively futuristic and backwards all at the same
1:35:51
time yeah like when he does nothing does anybody's like goes and sees his astropath who lives on the cutter in
1:35:58
like a little sweaty room all over his own yeah I need to a message back to you know Inquisitor headquarters and he's
1:36:03
like just pulls down the right cable and plugs himself yeah just yeah he's literally handwritten it yeah there's no
1:36:08
iPads he's just handling it yeah give that message and he plugs himself in together yeah and like the idea of evidence
1:36:15
passes through humans as opposed to machines it's really cleverly well yeah like when he's talking about wandering
1:36:21
around his house and he's just like yes I go into the inner pantry and it's just like you just it could just be any big
1:36:27
house yeah yeah and it's like yes the floor was Stone right cool we have stone
1:36:32
floors in our world yeah but it's such a such thing yeah I've always liked the
1:36:38
meme where it's got like Star Trek and it goes uh I think it's live speed for Star Trek then it's hyper speed for Star
1:36:44
Wars and it just goes 40K flies through hell yeah yeah yeah yeah
1:36:51
anytime soon I saw a brilliant um a brilliant meme about
1:36:56
um and it was well it was a cartoon and it said like Japanese uh RPG and it had
1:37:02
a guy clad in armor and then it had a woman uh next to him who had like an
1:37:07
armored bikini on yeah yeah and then it said American RPG and there was a guy clad in armor and then the woman
1:37:15
um was maybe like slightly less anime like a bit more grizzled and clad in armor and then he said 40K RPG and it
1:37:23
was just two fridges with guns
1:37:29
[Laughter]
1:37:37
yeah yeah no thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed it uh wonderful so I think well
1:37:42
on this second take we've been going for 50 minutes yeah oh wow so is that
1:37:48
something that we need to talk about yes this was uh referred to in our last
1:37:53
um chat which was dual not just sent them through because I pegged her by a post and uh she's like oh I'll send you
1:37:58
some stuff since she did and I just didn't get around to doing it so we've got some stickers so we've got a little badge so thank you uh Jess for sending
1:38:05
those through that's very nice she rides broomsticks uh which is great um so yeah there's lots of cool stickers
1:38:10
and yeah welcome you are welcome yeah with
1:38:15
rainbows Rainbow Warriors so yeah maybe our last question is like a 10th edition hype train
1:38:21
um what are you gonna if we all get a box each I guess well we'll have one for the channel that we'll do like tutorials on and stuff but your own personal
1:38:27
Leviathan boxes what will you paint them as bore an answer a phrase would be more of the same it'll be more of uh my son's
1:38:34
chapter of being uh yeah lead Belcher lead Belcher colored black Samplers the
1:38:39
Knights of the forge Knights of the forge yeah about yourself so I think I would do
1:38:45
beam off for the two minutes yeah if I if I ever get around to it what colors that is the red skin and the it's like
1:38:52
black or really dark blue carapace oh yeah yeah they're the ones I've wiped out the ultramins pretty much oh yeah
1:39:01
all the space means dead I'll just convert them dead and paint them blue uh so yeah still have an army
1:39:09
of corpses and an army too and into the inside Corpses do your zombie conversions I don't know
1:39:15
about the Marines um I'm not sure I'm I think weirdly I got blood ain't uh
1:39:21
space rules but painted was blood angels when I was a kid uh because I'm weird like that and I do think it'd be nice to
1:39:28
do some blood angels down the line but I've got that many things to do yeah um I don't know if if I get around to doing
1:39:33
it I'll probably do maybe the Marines first I'm not sure but I've not decided what to do yeah I um I haven't gone as
1:39:41
far to think about the tyranids um because I think I don't I don't think I own a single tyranid um they've never
1:39:48
been something that's like no I I started the one that came out when they had their first big plastic relaunch I
1:39:54
bought them and then I sold them all off very quickly yeah yeah so um but I want to paint uh the Marines is flesh Terrors
1:40:00
oh yeah because you've got yourself some you've ordered yourself some decals haven't you yeah I thought well I found some decals like flash arrows decals
1:40:07
from somewhere in America I think uh because Mighty brush used to sell them but unfortunately they don't anymore this is good because uh for a long time
1:40:14
I've had an Ardent shroud Army I've not been able to play with which is this is a battle and me and Wade they've had
1:40:19
this uh this beef That Never Was which is the Argent shroud and the flesh Terrace don't get on the flashlight
1:40:25
one of their wig out moments and actually plowed through the sisters as well apparently yeah yeah yes there was
1:40:32
that there was also the um the sister battle um told the teacher on them
1:40:38
um because they were basically they were snitches that got more than stitches yeah they were they were indeed they
1:40:44
they were snitches get disemboweled fighting some chaos together and there's a little village full of people and the
1:40:50
flesh Towers their way through the cultist but then can't stop and chewed away for the
1:40:55
villagers and then the blood rage man I thought what was her name take me with Greg sausage rolls
1:41:02
oh she's got a name that suits her um but yeah there's a there's a canonest that's just like I'm gonna write a
1:41:07
sterling word letter to the uh to the war Master about this incident oh amazing yeah
1:41:14
yeah oh brilliant yeah they grasp them up yeah because yeah I bought I bought some
1:41:19
decals um and well it was actually I saw like the mighty brush like yeah he does like
1:41:24
PDF tutorials and stuff yeah he does yeah and I bought the flash tires one I was like oh that's so cool um and then yeah
1:41:32
um but I also uh realized that currently Forge World are doing um pre-orders of
1:41:38
um flesh Terror shoulder pads for Space Marines so I bought a few of those as well so sounds good well Keen I want to
1:41:45
get my crystals um flash Terrors I'd have to spend my life cotton
1:41:51
um cutting chainsaws enough and doing them longer oh yeah yeah yeah yeah because they don't really have the the
1:41:56
boss does but they don't but I just think they look like they they like the big Everest right I think yeah oh right
1:42:02
yeah yeah so it goes all the way around yeah the space the cow spacemans have a few arms
1:42:08
with like longer chainsaws yeah well they've got them where they look a bit saber-sheeper doesn't as well
1:42:13
no no no no I'm saying that's a positively yeah more more graphically that'd be interesting designed yeah I
1:42:19
haven't thought about materials at all but I'm super Keen zombies I'm sure somebody will uh will
1:42:26
Ferry them off if you could take it off your hands there'll be a lot of there'll be a lot of terrorist armies I think getting very big very quickly yeah yeah
1:42:34
yeah yeah definitely yeah we'll find a nice quick way of painting tunics to help people out there a bit like oh how
1:42:41
do I go about painting all this stuff it's like yeah so much carapace and so much flesh I'm sure there's many ways I guess question for yourselves and for
1:42:46
the audience um if we do a leviathan uh box painting tutorial should it be box art colors no
1:42:53
because you know what he thinks about them you really can be but we all be dead yeah yeah we can yeah totally uh
1:43:00
there's ways of speeding that up as well yeah um yeah because if it's like a big new thing with lots of new people yeah
1:43:06
and you'd be like oh box up yeah like that's because usually I'm like ah let's do something different because everyone else does the Box up yeah yeah
1:43:12
um but who knows let's find a quick way of doing the Box well they know all the things would be nice things because I think for some people it's stuff that
1:43:18
they've never they've not really come across before it's like yeah what's a good color scheme for librarian blue as
1:43:23
opposed to them so they don't look they're blue but don't look like ultramarine yes of course yeah it's
1:43:29
quite interesting yeah yeah how to paint white because that's going to be a thing for uh there's an apothecary in the Box
1:43:35
oh yeah we do well pictures in a good one white tutorial already yeah everyone's seen with shatter point so
1:43:40
yeah yeah yeah was it salt Soul black gray contrast yeah yeah that's right with a white dry brush done done well
1:43:47
remembered yeah we do now white scarf so it's on that as well so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
1:43:53
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1:44:28
what's this one about oh walking dogs okay yeah are the pet channels great yeah everyone's posting pictures of
1:44:35
their dogs and cats and and all sorts and it's wonderful and loads of them have really cute clothes that they put
1:44:40
them in and it's awesome have you seen the clothes where they look like a Chucky doll
1:44:47
yeah they are my favorite thing yeah I just want to get a dog just so I can put
1:44:52
in that put it in put it in outfits yeah yeah I think that's where we need to go next I have to do some uh a dog match
1:44:57
yeah yeah yeah obviously just start like an entire new channel that is just like
1:45:03
a podcast and videos about dog merchandise what you could do is you can steam it as well so you could have like little tyrionid legs
1:45:10
and then you could have like I don't know like one of the waistcoats of the dogs we've got more legs on give it back a dendrites so it's like like flopping
1:45:17
around like a weird sort of a little Hood so yeah yeah and then we could do
1:45:22
like battle reports and it's like this week Rover is dressed up as a flesh Terror and Quentin is the sister of
1:45:29
battle fight right I don't know what we're doing now
1:45:35
yeah we're we're prolonging the pain yeah put your weird dreams in the comments and yes please do yeah please
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