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Dec 6, 2022
Geoff and Peachy chat about thing in the hobby they'd throw into room 101, is non metallic metal a gimmick? Are flying bases crap? We also waffle on for good long while too, enjoy! Help Support the channel with our affiliate links: UK: https://elementgames.co.uk/?d=10835 EUROPE: https://taschengelddieb.de/?affiliate=tpp US: use code paintingphase to get 10% off at https://www.goblinshut.com/ We Print Miniatures: https://weprintminiatures.com/thepaintingphase THEPAINTINGPHASE for 10% off Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/thepaintingphase/ https://www.instagram.com/__peachy_tips__/ https://www.instagram.com/geoffsavory/ https://www.instagram.com/pileofshamepaints/ Where we get our music: https://artlist.io/Patrick-75781 Check out Faith and Damnation Hobby Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/14562…
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right then so we're up and running and we've gone about it all the wrong way around so I'm Jeff I'm peachy welcome to
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the peach and wait well welcome to the peaching fan who took
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over that much that in the end we just came in and it's now yours so and I was gonna jump in and say and I'm Patrick
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but you you know never mind it's too late now we dramatic now it's the preaching face power hey this show this
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show is rolling we've got to carry on it's logo peachy face
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right right [Music]
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oh God that started well that started well Jeff new year new one we were close to Christmas I mean we've well a few
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weeks before new year new Army is sort of for me is new year new addition to
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existing Army because you know it's caught many times on the show that I was very very lucky that I won a fully
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painted Gene Steeler called farming if you've not heard this please that's an interesting story probably the
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lovely people of faith and Damnation yeah who if you don't follow them on Facebook you really should they are some
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of the nicest hobbyists out there go and give them a follow link link is always in the description it's down there
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somewhere they um they very kindly had a charity auction and I won this Army and
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it came with a Detachment of Gene Steeler infected
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guards so and like any hobbyist I was very very pleased to get this lovely
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painted army and immediately when the new Cajun were were teased I thought I've got to replace them yeah I'm gonna
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have the new ones so unfortunately as of yet with the New Codex for guard being out now if you've got Katie stands and
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then out in January if you haven't is that is within a bit of Limbo with
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regards to what uh Gene Steeler called can be with when it comes to having a good guards attachment so my my thing
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for next year will probably be adding Sentinels and adding maybe some of the
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new keysians and one thing another want to know what's going on so it's not a new Army for me but a new Detachment
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hopefully if it all makes some sort of sense and if they let us have castlekins with Jean Steeler Cults heads will just
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be perfect I'll just put some gentle heads on Kazakh because this one just do it anyway I mean most of them are I
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don't know what the letters might have the you know I don't know where we get the special forces guys we'll have to see I mean she's cynical in fact anyone
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yeah maybe Special Forces guys can just literally take that and then just spit it out there's a good story about a kazakin
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which we'll come to if we get a time but um that's good I mean would you try and time in the color scheme that's already
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there then or would you like add uh I don't know I think I would probably I think we're always probably do is I'd
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probably keep the Canadians that I've already got and have them as planetary defense and then I think the um
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I think it would be the guard that I've been sent off a little bit of nosy about I've been succumbed to as well yeah so I
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think I'll probably have guards of two different flavors on it and then it's a good excuse for um why they don't look
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the same as the either I think you know visiting God and stationed guards can be two different outfits though visiting
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and stationed yeah that's one way to look at it never thought about that way it's clever yeah
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flattered now so what about you you think of a new Army for the new year I guess similar to you
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um so I'm a big fan of Aston Villa tower has been said uh interesting as well
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we'll just have to talk about it after the other day when you went oh now I'm gone you know the poor ventrilians will
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disappear and you know and there you are in the New Codex yeah I forgot and actually forgot I give him the Army oh I
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forgot you know oh it happens so there's so many things where people want me to yeah sorry Jeff about that I do
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apologize yeah pass the Almond ages it must have been like 12 more than that
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months ago right and just sometimes you do that all the time you know people ask to borrow stuff for white waffle can you have this and like still dropped me
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going oh did you know you won't cry a woman's been white offers like did I give my Warcraft War pants to why do I remember doing that okay
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um but you just do it at the time but yeah it's nice to see the ventralins there it's still there at the very bottom on the map going yeah Buffet
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range tyrionids Buffet range so it's definitely a sacrificial lab I know it's there it's gonna die at some point but
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hey you never know maybe that's it two minutes are attracted by pretty colors yeah they're like magenta and Feathers
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that's good for the buyer my my opinion on this so you know you have your page in the Crusade rules I I feel like they
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they sent the Codex off to China in in like a Royal Mail van and like the heads
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the head of marketing was running after it just after you handed you noticing it's going to wait wait
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wouldn't that just be yeah that would not be hilarious if the year
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or just so you know it's at Prince in China and it's literally the day you are someone past and kicked the cable out
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the back of the phone but then try to go don't put that page
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yeah well like I know the next support guy who works in like Chinese print picks the cable up on Twitter
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[Laughter] by that point in time 25
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000 copies have been printed and he was too late you got it I mean I mean yeah
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because they're not redact and it's quite funny because people don't think of eventually a Nobles being a stealth regiment but it depends how they well
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yeah you know hiding in plain sight apparently is the best way so yeah I mean I did a little thing I mean I've
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still got a couple of things to do uh for this Noble member uh to celebrate November I we a couple of us did Noble
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November I mentioned yeah the last uh chat that we did um and I was doing the city-states and
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there was one that I really liked and I called them the off because it was based off ausland the um one of the northern
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Empire States yeah and they wear like black and white with bits of red oh yeah
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that did Black tunic one trousers and red flashes yeah I locked it down they were really cool yeah I think I called them the Australia Lightfoot and there's
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something about I just really liked him I was like you know what if I do a whole new Army I'm gonna paint them in that color scheme so as you stand at the
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moment until I do those 10 regiments the Imperial Guard I might change my mind yeah like that I've got to be honest just if
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for those of you that haven't seen this peachy put out uh what five regiments
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you're going to do of your own choosing and then put the rest out yeah to our amazing viewers and said what five would
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you like to see and now you've got these 10 ahead of you and I honestly for someone who doesn't play guard I
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couldn't be more excited about seeing them I can't wait to do it I mean those really are a few suggestions so like the
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talent of Australians and there was another one the tanith and the tennis one I picked and I wish I hadn't there
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because it's gonna be hard but that's why we make these challenges for ourselves but they're all quite challenging and I was like ah I don't
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want to pick them because they're quite hard and be a bit awkward I was like no that's the point yeah that's the point is to try and find a way to make that as
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easy if someone wanted to get those Canadians and go how do I make them like telling desireators how do I make them like Vostro in firstborn I mean I'm not
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gonna be able to make your scooped and tight new details but using the base bodies with a few little flares or even a color Choice
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um and that's what I'm all about the patent phase we're here to make the difficult truth yeah so the peaching
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phase the pieces sorry okay it's called The Peach and phase yes all empty sheds are gonna have to go back then oh God I
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think the peaching phase is just something entirely different that I do at the end
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oh God we probably might the places my mind runs to so quickly well mine was uh
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that was lovely darling we progressed to the peach again is that post or pre-packing
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clothes pegs God what's wrong with you yeah nobody's gonna complain that that
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audio wasn't loud enough yeah sorry about that uh so yes Imperial
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guards uh a color Choice different uh I've just been building the um the Astra militarum set for our own videos because
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we've got two sweets of ash from the time videos today so I've just been playing around those kits and I'm excited to do some entrance because the
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heads are going to work with them they're the right scale um so yeah I think in the New Year I'll be doing that I know they're not going
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to give me I know they're not going to give Gene steel a calls uh Rough Riders but I also hope they do why not they
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just won't not with that attitude make it happen the other way I thought about it was I thought
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um I could um I could do Venture I could do Rough Riders could I and um and just
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field them as uh as the bikes you know you could the other option right is use the estimatorium Army and then find some
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regimental doctrines that makes it feel like jeans Ah that's a good idea yeah so
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it's ridiculous isn't it to think to some degree the way games works on I'm not heresy for the way Games Workshop I've now worked it for the gene steel
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cult hey it's convenient you've got to buy another book well it's just a thing you go I have to go to the good guys
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book to find out how to play me bad guys there seems to be a bit of a weird way hey hey there is there are no good guys
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before well this is true no it is they're bad guys and worst guys yeah tyranids they're just hungry they're
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just hungry with them yeah it is yeah yeah they they've got you know they're not able to upset anybody just there to
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eat you yeah you know you're just a planet it's just food so yeah just food yeah so yeah that's my plan it's your
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plan Pat you got any hobby plans so um I'm not on camera so I might just put up like a um like a crime uh kind of like
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my identity has been blacked out yeah you could do you like in the um you know
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like in the Special Forces When anybody just won them Special Forces books you could if you're still alive you could
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just have that Blackboard oh yeah you only get to see their full face if you were dead yeah yeah yeah
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um what am I gonna do um I'm going to edit a lot um which will be good fun
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um I do want to get making like painting and making some of like my other videos again like we did with the iron Warriors
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stuff um I think I I really liked the custodies uh paint scheme that you did
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and I've got quite a lot of custody so I think I might like in that video we said you could paint a Kill theme in an
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evening or an Army in a weekend so I might be like well I'm gonna I'm gonna hold myself to that standard don't hold
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yourself standard hold him to it he said it let's just I [Laughter]
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think it's true that's true yeah um now now it's the no now it's the now it's the pitching phase you can just
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blame him for everything that you don't manage to get done that Bloody advice I took off that fella on that other that
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others TV show but I mean like uh I think yeah like I think it was a realistic statement uh I obviously don't
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paint as fast as uh and and accurately as uh Mr Peach but I think that's that's
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what I want to uh that's what I want to give a go I think or maybe maybe even in between that gap between Christmas and
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the year when uh like I think the three-phase thing would be nice to see that again because I think because you
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know I think when you read all the comments and it's still lovely that there's still comments coming in now on on the iron Warriors yeah there is yeah
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I know which is really nice and a lot of people got into the frame around to what you're doing of going yeah starting from
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nothing taking resources from YouTube figuring out your own particular which style you've Blended and works for you
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and then ultimately going on and painting quite a complicated miniature I think it did inspire people and I think
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it'd be nice to see it again yeah yeah I wonder what because I've got more tearing
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I quite like to paint him oh ballsy um I'm a death guard player I've never I've not even bought him for that phone
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but then I'd need to figure out like well you paint him and I'll end him off you when I'm gonna play yeah yeah
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um yeah because I have to figure out how to play Death guards yeah um has been nurglings and wings and all sorts I mean
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death guards is a really good one to pick because yeah it's so open to personal interests instead maybe yeah
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typhus oh no he's now he's now he's shrinking yeah on the edge of this
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conversation so maybe I'll do a pox Walker it's just the one yeah yeah yeah contrast plane done
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yeah it's a daggling I started at mortarium and the moral thoughts about it I did this this singular day an intro
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I remember um I think it was as I was leaving Games Workshop um or uh
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close to when I left um was sat in bugman's and a somebody
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walked past and they were like oh I'm just going to the shop like I don't I don't know the chap um but we were sat with people that you
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did know um went to the shop came back and he had a mortarion and obviously 50 staff
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discount Games Workshop um and he bought it for one nurgling that's on the base he was just
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like that's all I wanted yeah believe that Everyone likes isn't it the
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one that came on the base of um plague Marine Champion
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I think I've seen soaps paintings so this is a big thing yeah
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it comes with the free uh plague Marine Champion he has got the like the purchase but he has yeah yeah I've seen
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in the hell born spawn of a creature he's got it he's got plenty in the trunk
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talking drunk in the trunk uh custodia's videos while we're here I I wanna I just
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wanna find out what it is about the custodian short that everyone seems to think I sound like Gordon Ramsay
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I think part of it is like the way that that we vet like I say we like I've
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edited it um but I've done loads of others yeah and no one mentions it on that it's just that one just that one
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yeah I don't know because I think because it's because you painted it with a ladle yeah that's true I did you're
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right it was just all that all that sweater the Space Marine sense of machine was
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going over time um no but he Gordon Ramsay's very very direct his knees yeah pan hate what's a
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steak uh it's on yeah yeah that's it done and
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so I feel maybe we should do a oh that would be great so so this is this is because if it was a really long form one
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that was only the tutorial was only in singular so so what what is the full
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hour of paint and silver really yeah Alexa just going brown brush yeah or
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brown lighter brown yeah oh what would be the most complicated miniature to do
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that on mortarion yeah similar like mortarion green done
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about 75 colors but just about that I mean to be fair that's pretty much like
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our old Citadel pain guides yeah yeah it's like yeah I'm just gonna fly the
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green finished yeah every metal photograph yo yeah yeah that
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yeah that's that like build it put some base case but it is true and I thought
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yeah you don't come across particularly Gordon Ramsay estimated one video I don't know what it is about that one I think because it's I mean because it's
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it's done well it has done like views wise I think probably because they think I'm Gordon Ramsay
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Gordon Ramsay loves water well that'll be the new welcome to the Ramsay phase that'll be the next one yeah maybe we'll
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get it was the next yeah but what one thing I would love to do
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um obviously we have a bit of a history of being idiots um and bringing the hobby into disrepute
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um with you know how horrendously painted Space Marines you'll love them um I love the fact that both of them
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still get comments every day yes yeah yeah it's it's it I think it's you know
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it's transcended we made something that transcended the hobby um like one of one of my friends uh has
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K skip bashes by the way if you're not knowing what we're talking about he's yeah he's a wedding videographer and he was he sent me my own Tick Tock and was
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like oh you'll love this it's so funny um and he was and then the next message back oh my God wait you made this
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um he's I what I would love to do is is like a I think something like this this is what
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I want to do next year is is for all three of us is you know obviously we have certain videos that we go okay
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we've guarded been released we want to do a guard video yeah yeah um and that kind of thing but he's
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for a video each and probably more been all of that and just be like right okay
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what's the one video that you like as a creative what do you really want to do
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um and I really want to do stupid but I think as a challenge you'll be
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like right we need to make um a short that's like potentially a bit
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silly yeah um and and you know Challenge and have a
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long video that's like okay this is I'm gonna plan it I'm gonna film it we stick them on the Internet and then a week
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later see who has the most views oh that'll be good because I've already I've got some plans already I don't I
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don't know how many times I've seen the original video of the yellow Space Marine being Greg and I hate the music
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to it now oh do you can't watch it that I have to watch it on mute but you know what I've I don't know how many times
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I've watched it and the
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the thing that I can't even understand is and I'm sorry that some people might
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be offended by this that you think it's real you think it's serious it was very and you get very upset by this it's like
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it's clearly a joke at the fact that more angry people get about them before me I find it actually somebody said they
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put one where they pull um why would you do this I don't know but play because nobody else will
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that's to show you what not to do he's quite I think he's quite hard reading the comments sometimes
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um because somebody might go you you see the words why would you do this and it might be like oh my God why would you do
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this yeah I was like why would you do this oh you have to read it so many different yeah yeah like I always Clint
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Eastwood with one and you go like Jerry Pascal with the next one you're like we're talking about people always do go
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why would you do this I was oh I always just put my body put why and I always reply why not yeah yeah the obviously is
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the best dancer isn't it if you gotta why not reply that's Jeff yeah that's why why not yeah in case you're
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thinking about replying to it you haven't already yeah I think I think yeah there's always space there's always
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space for silly silly Miniatures yeah you got to do it I mean I think I'd like I'd like to see I did my early
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conversions when I was 16 17 and my wife named them and I got some it wasn't even
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green stuff it was blue tag I put I got lumps of blue and I put a load of like spare because I had like the chaos to
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spawn yeah spawn set oh yeah yeah weird monkey heads and arms and I did a load
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of um heads on one piece of blue Tack and super glued it so it hardened it and
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then I did a load of arms on another just to make some spawn for a game because I was playing against my dad and Liz called one um armyani and there
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wasn't Eddie heady um or heady Eddie and you know if you if
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I was ever to find those there and if people would be so triggered so tricky because it was badly painted
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badly converted but that was my first step in conversions that you've got to start somewhere the 41 was Pat second
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um casket bash which is the one with all the arms with his assault Cannon sorry ass yeah
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the amount of people who've gone you chaos spawn or this yeah bunch of
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people who've really got behind it there's still people who hate it but she always will but um yeah it is yeah yeah
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absolutely but one thing I will like to go back to just while we're there I thought we cleared the air on on air is
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that um you know when you're golden and ramsina on that custodies video can we
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also as well literally make sure people know because it's not a stolen video from games work
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oh my gosh do you remember that oh it wouldn't end with it I mean the thing was right and I had to step in and say
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something because normally I tried to like arm's length and usually if someone's got something like
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constructive this is just someone had a beef in their Bonnet about as stealing a
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video if I'm going to Workshop which was the custodian and it was basically stole from Games Workshop was you yeah
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that's that's true yeah so I did some research just to think well
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where could they have seen this where could they have seen this we've never used the wooden background though which
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is this table here on any of this of the warmer TV videos it's always been the cyan to White fade
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um that was always about to drop yep um and the one I did was an Alaris custodian yeah Duncan did I think a
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shadow keeper and I did it or the solar watch the ones with the white armor yeah and the gold trim and the only of all I
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could think I was probably one that Duncan did on his own channel but this person would not but would not [ __ ] wouldn't go with it
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facts are here but you know sometimes I think I responds at one point someone said
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that you've stole this from Games Workshop and I went not with this level of videography we didn't
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I might upset Joe we can't upset yeah no there's nothing wrong with you
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I mean I don't do anything revolutionary I just used a wooden table and um
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someplace like and put like a purple light on it yeah and you'd be like boom
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as well is that when you jumped in and went I think you'll find the answer is this no apology nothing I don't know
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it's the internet you could have just come back and go my bad well the apology was it didn't
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continue yeah well so they didn't carry on maybe take you know small masses or something but yeah it's it's we get I've
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been I've been told in the past that I've stolen idea back in the day when I did like a simple head swap on a uh
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brutonium back in the day it was something so simple like you know plutonian on foot plenty not on foot I
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used the militarums I gave him the sword arm and a knight's helmet the most simplest head swapping arm swap you
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could ever do someone wrote into white dwarf and customer service saying that I stole their idea it they added
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that's what you must do in your spare time and just sit with binoculars on the other side of the streets look at the people's hobby tables see this is the
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thing as all what really sort of over the Atlantic right yeah it was someone in Canada that had a beat with me and at
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the time I I was sharing a flat with my brother and we didn't have the internet so I had no access to the internet I I
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mean when I was at mum and Dad's we had no access to the internet so I was used to not having access to Internet so I
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survived about it and obviously working with workshop and doing these things for um games days and stuff and then only
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eventually moving into a house with the internet and then someone's saying that you've stolen this a lot did I don't
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think I did but yeah you get totally stopped you see so yeah oh it's bizarre
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it's bizarre it really really is it's in flattery to be to to give them um I mean
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I I gave him the benefit of the doubt initially because I was like um oh like yeah you recognize the voice yes
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and you've watched him for five years but you know he's over here now
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um making our videos you can see the full video yeah with his politely was explained it wasn't good his face
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on our Channel and all that sort of stuff and um and then it was like no it just went
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he was just doubled down on it yeah he went link me the video you coward you won't because it's not yours you can
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just so you can just click on the channel it's fine it's just over there yeah yeah it's two
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point presses away no that's well I think well I mean this is it like you I I
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um the two button presses is a lot on the internet like it like with um like Facebook
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before they did video would play YouTube videos in the Facebook video yeah um but
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then they stopped because they wanted to promote their own yeah video yeah so you had to click on the link and then click
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on the video and just those two clicks is like I'll just upload it straight to Facebook and and and and it's like you
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know I'm a lazy internet user um so two clicks is a lot it's enough to dissuade you know people posting YouTube
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yeah on different platforms and stuff like that so I think for next year not Army related but I think um we really
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need to pull our finger out and I know we are the pitching slash painting phase but
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where may can be maybe potentially slightly become slash mildly gaming face oh I'd love to yeah let me try and get a
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little bit again yeah I've got plans of I mean you know we're doing the into dark set and we did the shadow Vault set
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we have scenery and we yeah um kill teams we've got the war cry one I want to do that I was actually going
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to pitch whilst on the chat show oh that tune the shape the show's now I'm just named
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after you yeah well it's my show though and it's my show I can see what I want I I down that vein because I've really
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enjoyed doing these you're in young form videos where you're in your dangerous knitwear
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so I I really enjoyed some of their knitwears as well up there as well well
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we're all in it where because it's freezing I mean this is warm for me it is nice
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and tasty there with all these lights um sorry so yeah so I I would like
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um to do more like variant kill seen some of the ones that already existed in the little foxes but also necromonda I
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have a whole host of necrom under gangs that I'd like because it won't take me long to do yeah because I've already got
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all the prep done yeah all the preps yeah the love of God that I've desperately tried to stay away from necromancers I really like and then
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you're gonna tease me and I'm gonna go into Ash wastes then we're going to cinderfall and then we're just gonna then you can do some Jean Steeler coats
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however you want because it's necomunder you know she's lubing me up for necromondo but it's not fair two fingers
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oh necomunder coming your way I don't know why I said that I don't even know what's going on
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I don't know why I lit my fingers as well I'm so sorry [Laughter] um somebody did um put a comment in one
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of the recent chat shows saying that they'd want um I think people have really liked the like the peak behind the curtain and your experiences at GW
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um asking about necromondor and uh all that kind of thing so we'll have to have a look at the comment and maybe do that
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in the future oh yeah absolutely yeah I've got loads of things I'd like to talk about I've got to be honest the idea that going in and playing kill team
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I've got to sit and waiting to be painted because I sort of handled up with half a box of it and by accident is
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I've got the um I must be honest I've got the Orcs And I'm not a big man for Orcs but the orcill team is pretty cool
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yeah and I am really thinking about getting the painted up and I think I would maybe like to try and play them death guard green black Legion sorted
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bang There we go death guard Legion done yeah him Gordon Ramsey all commanders
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I think say for the silly shorts we should just do a Gordon Ramsay one yeah
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we should yeah yeah I think it's him already most of them lean into it well that's it I mean I sit there writing
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like little green text in my thing of like how I'd want to say it I'm just going to go Gordon Ramsay now yeah decided thanks on the Peyton video
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suddenly become 13 minutes yeah yes exclusively just literally like a
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sprue thrown on a table and then the next thing it's all just built yeah plastic glue yeah finished
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simple really when you think about it I could probably put on 20 30 videos a week out of that right well and then say
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if you if you're going down the stupid route and channeling Gordon Ramsay oh you could you could just you could go down the light green
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pink blue and you just be like um souffle
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just just have them in like a toad in the hole for just 10 minutes you have
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like figures in like little muffin cases on a trade yeah and just get wash and base them yeah
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[Laughter] yeah I like to be basically now the
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viewers are just having to sit and listen so it's just riffing on where we're potentially gonna go in the future oh yeah mad thinking it up as no longer
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yeah now this has been a a well a pig behind the scenes we had a guest on earlier today we did which will be
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released after this yes yeah so this is kind of like a less building or what
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time we've got left yeah that's it no prep time just having it having an attack yeah well we're gonna be a little bit late this weekend release aren't we
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because I I was a bit poorly and we didn't quite yeah starting quite a lot I've had some some life events too yeah
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to do yeah and I was poorly bought it didn't have any bearing on the ship
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you're a grown-up and you just uh you know rub some dirt in it and carry on with life unlike me I went to bed for
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two days I just yeah I just I uh I just melted down Vicks and drank it who's Vic
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and why why did you melt him down oh I'm so glad oh God that I thought that was
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going somewhere else okay that's fine the where else that will count Sereno maybe
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yeah well I wouldn't want Vicks on a suppository would you oh all right am I
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doing these hobby 101. I forgot to I go on quick before I go and get myself haircuts he's got 10 minutes 10 minutes
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10 minutes 10 minutes hobby 101s hobby101 so if anyone's unfamiliar with 101 uh you throw something into Room 101
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that you just want to get rid of forever yeah um we'll see how this goes oh kind of a car crash this will be okay so yeah I'm
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gonna mediate it because uh I don't have strong opinions about anything already
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um my foot so I'm going to go off your four examples hobby tools what do you want to throw into Room 101 Mr Peach hobby tools
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all right okay I think um through years of using Games Workshop probably tools yes
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um there's a lot of good ones there's a lot of like questionable ones I am not a fan of the new painting handle
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oh and the reason being I find um oh you've got one quite thin as you can
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see it's hard to hold as well obviously uh this one the original one's quite chunky you can hold it I mean this argument is to be said like you can hold
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it but I just I don't know I just don't find the same grip and what I don't like is this one you can take the top off and
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as we did with our voting video you can shove that underneath the tank oh okay put a hole in it hold it yeah we killed
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your tank to paint your tank you can swap to a different size Contraption whereas this is just you can
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only do so big and it's flimsy and I drop them all the time and I want that to go into Room 101
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whereas this one I want to come back because it's Mega and I love it and I feel like powerful holding on to it
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because it was ergonomically designed back in the day to the fact that it was like everyone agreed this is great
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awesome and then they went and redesigned it it's like well what was the point in all that hard effort of
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making that I'm not saying I'm not checking it the person who scooped it still always put a lot of effort and know what they're talking about
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this one's better don't understand it so Room 101 come back please uh my room 101
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is not something they've made it's the fact that I'm putting games workshops lack of imagination in fuels into Room
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101 bold oh wow I haven't why why can't I go and buy a Games Workshop um web
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path oh yeah I quite like I've got a new Army painter one which army painter sent us which was very very kind of them but
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why have I had to wait for somebody else to make one one Games Workshop I could make them one and when I'm in there
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buying me paint and this is the main bit when I'm in there buy me paint why can't I not just reach forward and buy me a
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little packet of more sheets for and it's just like I mean we do Games Workshop Dice and there's Games Workshop
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tape measures so you know yeah I think some of it as far as I'm aware is
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um the markup would that is required on
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Games Workshop products uh would make it too expensive and pointless for them to produce it is that what it is um so it's
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potentially that and there's a lot of other companies that produce great ones um like I we all use the army pay to One
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Step yeah so I suppose there's the media which one of these two would you put into Room 101
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um I'm gonna have to go with you I I agree since um since you're using the older painting
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handles and the explanations of why they are just like better um I agree that the new ones just need
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to get in the sea right uh what paint Jeff who would you
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throw into Room 101 what paint would I throw into Room 101 uh I would throw in
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that that one that's named after the Tau suit XP whatever
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next to be 88 yeah the reason I would throw that in is because there's about another 28 Browns and Games Workshop
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that look virtually identical to it yeah it literally if you if you know if
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you put that pot of paint with the other ones and the cheat and the Sun Slightly changes in your room and you didn't have
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the labels on you wouldn't know which one it was I just too identical to about four other pots
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of pink yeah no I'm gonna get rid of that I can that's either or you can get very close along with it it's a really
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good paint looks loads like just looks like loads of other ones so for me I don't think it's a paint I
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think it's a range of paints and they are called dry paints
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dry paint so back in the day when uh the paint range was made yeah the idea was
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you would base coat you would walk and you would highlight and highlight
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and to get a similar effect quickly you would base coat dry brush with a dry paint and then wash over and you it
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would be like super quick and you'd get a similar effect and I think it was
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oh we didn't make it very well and we're gonna sell it anyway even though it's now wet and not dry because it obviously
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condensates in the pot um and it it's just it's a it has a
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weird end effect and we were for a long time we were forced to to use what was I
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think eight or ten pastel colors he can't try brush seed pastel colors like
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looking like it's either from the realm of light or sunesh um we'll just put more more came out but
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then they ended up being like the same colors as a lot of layer paints because they'll point there and the thing is is that you can you can
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I got the concept which was to make dry bushing more accessible and needs to people that didn't know how to dry brush
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but you can do that with explanation and show it in video Yeah up on how to use a bait you because the the thing with the
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range of systal paints is just so many colors so many choices it's the technique this driver should not the
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paint I mean you could argue like pigments work differently to you know like dry pigments work differently to
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like wet pigments and stuff but I have been dry brushing for decades and I've never suffered with end results except
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when I use dry paints and we as um eye painters had to lie for our Publications
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because if we use the dry paints when you use the macro lens it was coated in
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dust and the cleanup for the like the editors and the graphic designers to
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clean all that lot and you'll be there dusting with like a dry brush to try and remove when I say a driver should be in a clean brush to remove any dust
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particles um I just don't think they're very good I don't think they'd do anything no no they're not still like you can't 10 minutes explanation you
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know five minutes explanation you can do a video because the thing is you've got to watch to get people to be able to dry brushes and you go yeah but then at the
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same point in time you made the range them really all yeah so it's not doing this job yeah so mediation uh one last
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thing as well out the dry paints make golden Griffin an actual paint because it's amazing ah there we go there's no
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color like that as range Chuck in some Lamy medium and mix it yourself you tasty stuff yeah you're right no thank you
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um uh so mediation um somebody might want that specific brown paint yeah you're right yeah um
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the only time I've ever bought a dry paint was by accident uh so I've done that at least twice so
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so for that reason he's absolutely right so Thunderhawk blue dry pain yes into
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room one oh God yeah okay uh how would you have time oh we are
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I've got three minutes okay um so one word answers potentially a tiny
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tiny explanation Army what to go into room one word to room one
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oh why is he not even thinking about that because I think big things fighting everything else just looks weird I I
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don't I don't like it I just think it the idea that the idea is that men are
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meant to move forwards and capture objectives and it's the idea for me Games Workshop starts at a pair of size
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10 leather boots and works and sweeps or ceramic boots and then it's man Big Five
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you playing with five or six big robots on one side you build it's not immersive for me if that's my opponent yeah yeah
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interesting Mr Peach you're rebuttal oh this is this is something I've been
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toying with for a little while and I like some of the models I like the
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designs of some of the models but I find like the cow designs of the lumineff
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just a bit comical they're bizarre who of all of the animals in the in that we
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that we sort of meant to relate to into the fantasy universe who represents a
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live quick fighting force laughs
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beautiful I'd like you know if you had like a honey badger or an otter yeah or
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so I could get behind it or a mongoose yeah on their head you could go bitey
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Glory fighty so quick but you go I've got a war cry warband and I've chosen
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not to on it's mainly the Alaris Stone gone I'm referring to it they they ruin the range for me and I just don't do
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them with the helmets on or if they're because they've got like the helmet which looks like an Elven helmet but it's like flat top then it has this cow
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design on it and I think that's the head of the guy I feel I feel like they've got giraffe necks and like weird cow
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heads but it's not it's just yeah they're they're all very weird and also as well does that mean whenever they go
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at home is they just like a clot of them out of them helmets outside in the rain because no one can be asked trying to
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get into their houseware imagine trying to get through doors whatever they probably have specifically designed
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divisors but think about it when they're all like lying down in the fields you know it's going to rain
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laughs oh Deary May true uh sorry I'm I'm not I
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can't I don't know if I can really judge that one okay because I'm not I'm not as familiar like I know what the nights
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look like um but I I've seen some of the cows um I think I think on that one I think
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it will settle on the draw because I think yeah yeah yeah yours is based on design mine is based on
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just how I perceived the game yeah yeah yeah no that's interesting uh we did have two others on the list but quick we
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are going quick environment uh hobby gimmicks Mr Peach uh I'm gonna I'm gonna get hated for
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this this is gonna be the make or break of Chris Peach now there's there's a there's a there's a movement in in the
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realm of a movement a movement in the realm of 3D painting called non-metallic
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metal I appreciate non-metallic metal I think the style of non-metallic metal is
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very pretty but they are 3D models and it's a 2d design
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3d model but you know who came who pointed that out to me first was um when
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I was in the days of pain rackham's confrontation and they were very much into non-metallic metals and I was
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busting my ass trying to do them really badly and I tell you who it was that
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came and went I don't believe in that and I don't like it and said it in such a way that made perfect sense you may
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remember him do you remember Gandy Gandhi Gandhi came back he came back him and John Lennon
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approached them a Jeff don't like them painted like that doesn't make any sense lad no
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um was he said don't he makes sense if you look
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at them from one way yeah well he does I mean it's you pick the golden angle of a model um it's a 2D art style on a 3D model
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which when you take it or want that one angle it looks fantastic looks beautiful it's definitely a flex but what I've
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noticed it's become sort of like if you can achieve this it means you're a great painter and
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it's just like he's metallic because you can use it at any angle and it looks great I know there's folks out there
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that do true metallics which is the non-metallic star but with actual metallics it's just such a paint metallic I mean if I was to do
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non-metallic metal algebrae I'll paint the metallic and spray varnish it's just not it's not metallic then isn't it oh
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that that could be a Gordon Ramsay paint non-metallic metal custodies video
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gold yeah might vanish done I mean this is not to undermine the artists out
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there that do non-metallic metals because they put a lot of effort in there it's very creative it's very well skilled and well done I just I just
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don't think it it's one of those things we should like almost it's come to the point that we
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get questions all the time even before our show again when are you going to do a non-metallic metal video Never ever
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ever your pairs are here first but yeah I mean I I'm certainly going to try it by all means I'm not yeah all I am I'm
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gonna get you trained race when you'll trade it and vitals rather we'll just sit literally just sit watch
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let's see how you watch that pants yeah that looks shocker so yeah for me it's a
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it's a cool thing but it's a bit of a gimmick and I think people are Miss sort of
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they misunderstand the point of it yeah that sounds fair Jeffrey um I really like you're massively over
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the top horny to the things that stand in for flying bases but you basically still got a man with his foot on the
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ground oh I know flying bases by Games Workshop if
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we're going there for their jetpack Miniatures are really shocker but you can make that base as big as you want
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and you can make it look as cool as you want he's still got a foot on something I'm still basically it's a man balancer
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on this tiptoe on a bit better Rock he's not flying now stop it he's jumping
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so just lace it's not fly basis it's a jump base but it's not it's he's not
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getting much purchase offer no no it's I know what people are doing and I understand it I don't like flying bases
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at the best of times they're an ass there's never a good time when to put it on put it on after you've painted it and
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then it ruins your paint because you need it's weird plastic you end up having to use super glue the super glue
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then Frost stickers it's clear I get it but they always just look ridiculous
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when to me if you manage to make them look goes on you do you and I'm pleased for you but they always just look like a
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gun the The Narrative if it just doesn't work for yeah yeah that's for me is my
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that's my big gimmick and the thing is people seem to do this thing you're going the cooler and cooler and cooler
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and make the base look you won't notice he's just got his tiptoe on a bit of rock no I will I will move
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well that was a Jeff we'll notice yeah yeah that was that was two very interesting arguments I I genuinely
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don't think I could pick between so we'll see what the internet thinks yeah they'll probably help me I mean anybody anybody who plays Raven
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guards are probably at me as well yeah it's because like even the um the death copters in the uh like the orc the new
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ones like they're just like their bellies are scoping a little rock yeah and the hover um the hover bikes with from the squats
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yes yeah and they're doing a similar song I know there's no good way to do it I know them but I just magnets
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two really strong magnets that's a that's a good idea Magna okay so 20 000
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quid later we figured out how to do real flame mix yeah a crikey that would be hard because he'd have to do everything
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with the weight and find like all find the center of gravity or maybe it'll be that difficult hello everyone is similar
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to investigate yeah someone with more time on their hands than us yeah internet YouTube if you do it we'll help
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you on the show oh yeah [Laughter] it'd be hard
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you know somebody might have some really extreme political views and but be really good with magnets
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