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Delays, Forecasting, and Ruining Christmas
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Feb 27, 2023
We filmed this a couple of weeks ago so there has been some developments in the story already, this week we chat about delays to Killteam, why GW might be short of stock lately, and Geoff ruins Christmas #killteam #gamesworkshop Join our Patreon: https://patreon.com/thepaintingphase Help Support the channel with our affiliate links: UK: https://elementgames.co.uk/?d=10835 EUROPE: https://taschengelddieb.de/?affiliate=tpp US: use code paintingphase to get 10% off at https://www.goblinshut.com/ We Print Miniatures: https://weprintminiatures.com/thepaintingphase THEPAINTINGPHASE for 10% off Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/thepaintingphase/ https://www.instagram.com/__peachy_tips__/ https://www.instagram.com/geoffsavory/ https://www.instagram.com/pileofshamepaints/ Where we get our music: https://artlist.io/Patrick-75781
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hi I'm peachy hello my name's Patrick oh hello I'm
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Jeff oh tree today I say ding dong
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started yeah I mean people are used to it now
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yeah I mean we've probably got an idea sorry it's going to go you've joined us on the painting face nighttime Edition
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oh that's where I wear my bikini someone someone in the um I mean the the
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first what 30 seconds of this podcast back it up um someone in the Discord was
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like how come you guys on on the Games Workshop Affiliated program
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someone else commented and they were like realistically you know they maybe had a good chance but when they start
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talking about pegging I just went downhill from there really
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isn't there I mean I did it in the studio and I didn't get taken off any affiliate program when I was there so no
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no or did I um maybe yeah maybe that's why you're here now yeah yeah okay let's go with
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that yeah so we all been all good been good thank you very much yeah yeah been good I sounded quite exasperated
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tell us you're right I've been good but crisis took some efforts
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I'm not good oh so we have a topic we do have a topic
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we might go off tangent what I'm sidetracked oh that would be like I can't uh I can't even remember what the topic is what's your idea or was it
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yours yeah it was um well the question is which will lead
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into the topic are we going to talk about the weather aren't we yeah that's it yes forecasting
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forecasting uh with products yeah how easy have you found it to buy your
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kill team um what is it called Soul shackle Soul shackle and before that don't forget
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Shadow vote Yes yeah that was the same it's happened with both kill teams yeah so that's the subject isn't it yeah why
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are Games Workshop currently making it difficult to buy certain things so I mean I've got a couple of theories
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because I've been experienced enough to have seen the sides of it so Devil's
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Advocate will come on and sometimes it will come up I mean this is interesting because I also have some theories but they're backed up with no expertise
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whatsoever I would say mine's expertise is just like Rumblings and the odd conversation so I think sometimes
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they're they don't expect it to do so well because it is a forecasting Department you do need to like have a
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finger in the air yeah work out in comparison to previous ones how many they've sold make that or make something
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closer or slightly less because you don't want stuff in the warehouse now there is a big thing at the minute where you don't want I mean it's been going on
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for a good decade now where this the prime space in the warehouses is for stock that actually sells and
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okay you want to make sure that you don't have like stuff sat there for years and years and years not doing anything because it could be a product
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that could be being shipped through and sold through which is what I don't understand this one particularly like spray paints there's like a rule of like
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only 12. and it's only a range of 12. and it might have changed but I've only ever seen 12. I remember it being said I
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heard you tell me this yeah because I um I didn't realize that there used to be like an official Avalanche Sunset yeah
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yeah there's incube Darkness Avalon Sunset morning Fang Brown rhinox hide Stormville Fair they were all Mega and
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they no longer exist well the other problems I know back in day when I first thought when I go first Dave's been on
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and we've all got our Yorkshire um it's that um they used to spray
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paints used to be limited edition didn't they when they go like I remember when uh spaceports came out Third Edition like space force came out space Wolf
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Gray came out and then within within less than a year space Wolf Gray was gone and then was death God green you
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when they kept when they came out oh no no death guard green was quite a recent probably the last oh sorry so like did
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death guard green come out with eighth edition I believe so yes yes like Bruno
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brass came out with the um uh necrons so usually yeah it will trigger it and but now
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thankfully they stay lingering along longer than because you know if you think about it if they've been the Old
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Third Edition way yeah death guard green and be gone by now yes it's still going thankfully but um yeah so it used to be
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like because remember like Dark Angels green and then sometimes people I remember back this is like in the late
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90s there'd be a panic on where you'd see people would start a new Army you wouldn't buy about Blum and four cans of
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spray because they knew that it was it was gonna go you know oh that's interesting if death guard green goes like such a
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pain in the ass so the thing for me is it should be Soviet green you'll go with yeah well I mean that's why our army
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painter and Citadel of course dude it's colorful exact matches yeah
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they do exactly because of this alone so you're gonna go well smelly green it's cold
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when I moved over to warmer TV I um did some prep on a Marathi video and it made
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sense to spray her with storms and refer and then I did a little cheeky sort of because she has like a a red recess that
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goes up to Gray a in like all the snake body and wings all right and I was like what I'll do is I'll spray that because
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it's perfect still moving fair and I'll get corn red so before like any contrast available maybe I'll probably use contrast now and then I thinned it down
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and I played it all over the wings and the body and just wiped my thumb and it kind of just give it a nice blend and it looked almost identical I did a bit of a
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dry Bush of the actual paint of stone moving further I think I used a light thing like Carrick Stone Maybe and then finish the video the video went
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out we were then told by Hobby products all that paint's been removed now it's like could you have told this so what
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those storms so we acted then in the feed the Facebook comments go use mechanical standard ground some people
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why don't you use that stuff it was like
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for a short period of time you could have had 13 on the shelves but it was this weird Rule and the weirdest thing for me was the Fang was on there for so
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long and no one used the Fang and the thing was the wrong color to paint Space Wolves because it's like the darkest
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shade yeah but you want like a mid-tone so you can like highlight up and shade down yeah you don't want the darkest color because you have to like as we've
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said before tediously layer up for hours or over brush then like tidy up in the
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center yeah it doesn't speed up your painting at all but the Fang I hate it as a color it was on there for a long time because there's 12. because you're
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peachy the spray paints are yes yeah but so this goes back to things like the um
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the two kill Team sets as someone forecast it because they want to make sure there's enough yeah to go out but
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not to clog up space in the warehouse or have they made enough more than they thought they were going to make that
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they'll like we'll have spares for like a couple of weeks yeah but actually it did Better Than People realize because no one actually sees the numbers right
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yeah I would have sold out yeah but then the scalpers have got in because it's like they're adding 100 quids on yeah
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someone posted enough goddamn scalpers why do that like why let them have that power it loves me yeah someone posted in
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the Discord uh in eBay which was 210 yeah yeah so cheeky 100 quid extra the other thing that hasn't helped is the
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fact that they they they've been not producing enough and then what they did then is rarely
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dragged their Plum and feet releasing the individuals yeah yeah I mean if her mind rightly am I right
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insane the breaches are only just so uh really so the breaches they did like a
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big dropper so what was in box one breaches box one was breaches and Crews yeah yeah so box one and box two
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individual Miniatures have only just come out this Saturday like at the time of recording yeah and the car skins or
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casks yes yeah they went out the same that was the same release so if you think you're a guard player
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and your army is now just filtering through and then you think how long ago blumen your team was out and then it was
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a kill Team box that was then difficult to buy yeah only now you're casting to come yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean it's not
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like they've got enough of the because it seems like it's the the past two kill team boxes have been affected yeah
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um like the first one seemingly was did okay like I still see boxes of that when
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you go into like but they will do because the first one you're required to keep that one on the shelf for a while
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because it's got your starter booking it oh okay because it's with something as well they've started removing the
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Starbucks I noticed that with war cry you'd get like the core book in the set whereas you don't know you just get the
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you have to get the core book separately but I think the price is the same so that that's something I noticed when
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you got the um I think the new box that's called now because we're not I've not done much of war cry for like the last oh yeah yeah we got the latest yeah
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so you know that's a plan somewhere like down the line but yeah so you don't get the core rules in there you just get the
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little additional sort of campaign pack for this stuff yeah so because we didn't get box one like the heart of good yeah
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yeah yeah yeah super interesting so another another thing I'm just going back to my original point which is like you know it could be that it's about
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space in the warehouse it could be that they've actually made loads and just sold through more than expected to because that does happen I mean you
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think again it's finger in the air kind of job or it might be as we've I've experienced in the past a lot of those
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people in forecasting aren't hobbyists and don't really know what people like or want so I know a lot of it as has
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gone by our video and my Instagram post of the kazakin is that's the most successfully yeah Instagram posts I've
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ever had um just showing that one kazakin sergeant and that video did really really well into the early days yeah um
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I know it will do well I know that because the tourist Stormtroopers would do well which is why we pitched it as one of the three options yeah
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um but I'd sometimes wonder if it's just someone that doesn't really do the Hobby and goes nah it's just some more walls in it and some some necrons it's an
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upgrade set and just some dudes with guns so it could be that it could be yeah not knowing what the market wants
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and I think but I think if they do this if this happens again with the next one in two three four five months time you'd
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be like come on it really will be getting silly yeah yeah you need to do it why it's being kill team that's been
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like yeah if you're gonna do this if you're gonna do this speed up the release of the Blum an individual Squad
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box but I get that I mean you want you want to get the you want you want people to buy that box there yeah so you want
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you want to make the money on that box set right and get your costs back I mean I guess this is why it's like you know you've made some nice new internal
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corridors so you want to accrue back the cost of making that mold which I think has probably done that now they probably
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did that in the first one yeah yeah but you don't want like a week or two weeks yeah people just hold fire and and if
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you see patterns where that happens you know yeah in two weeks time it's going to do that so there needs to be a big enough Gap that people will go yeah I
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imagine the people that will have bought that box just for the rbts yeah and then sell everything else yeah yeah yeah it
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needs to be a gap but it but also as well you don't want it to be too big because what will happen is people didn't get this box with the rbts in
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yeah and then what happens is they're thinking do you know I was going to buy that because I was going to have them as say a necrom under team and then they go
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I'll wait and then it's months and months yeah they go oh do you know what to screw it on the end I've got a new
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idea I decided to play Goliath instead oh they got enforces and paid for enforcers
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I'll do something else yeah and you go and it's you know and you think if you leave it too long people's interest will
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wait yeah I mean and also as well you just you just feed the scalpers so yeah
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if I'm being on that side there was that if you give the information and give the build up and tell them which is why they
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they we used to have like quite a gap of releases so we used to talk to the
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managers when I was a retail manager you'd have like your six month plan and you'd see up to six months of what's coming out crazy
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um as a retail managing you could talk about that in the store for a time um but then they obviously really really
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stopped that because all like people won't buy the stuff because they'll wait no they won't sometimes they will generate excitement and build up to that
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excitement but if you give them a thing when it's released and then they can't get the thing then they lose the excitement yeah yeah so that's I mean
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from my experience as a hobbyist I've been building up and building up and building up to get a thing and then when I can't get it because I really want to
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get those enforcers just for myself as well yeah but I'm just gonna wait now I know I might by that point be not
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bothered about that project yeah like you're saying yeah that makes sense I think it's um but it's that fear that
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it's like it will put people off if they didn't get it yeah too early so I I um
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I was in uh in town on Saturday um because we're gonna film some World
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eater stuff this week and I got an email from element games saying we've delayed your order because we're waiting on
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stock from Games Workshop and then I was like oh okay did you not reply don't you know who we are don't you know who I am
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like no no we have an affiliate link you know yeah yeah um no no I uh like trailing your
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mustaches no nobody should know who I am I wander around and somebody would be
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like are you and I'm like no um not because but then that might come off it's like oh he's a brother in real
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life but I'm actually just really Meek happy now I say yes because I'm just telling hungry
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nice I'm just a bold meat suck yeah and I hate myself
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what a great combination yeah yeah um so yeah I I was in a Saturday going
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right I need to get some World eaters because they're delayed and we need to try and paint some this week
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um and then I got an email from element games and uh I got all my days modeled up and I was like it's Friday and then I
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got an email from all the games saying we've been sent a very like very limited amount of stock for this week's releases
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from Games Workshop and I was like oh yeah pre-orders and and they were saying like you can still the pre-orders were
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still open but they would wait until more stock got delivered so because Games Workshop had done it before where
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they've like held back stock for themselves and it worked like I didn't go on uh I didn't go on element games to
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uh to do the pre-order I went straight to Games Workshop um I think it was about 10 past 10. there were still boxes
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available and I just bought one I was like I need it like as much as I want to support
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you yeah your local Friendly Gaming store um and you know it's cheaper
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um from like a filming point of view it'd be like do I risk it coming late and then the video goes out late and the
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interest might not be as high yeah or does it guarantee arrival on that
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Saturday and then we can film like in in that week or yeah yeah um it's interesting but
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um I've only had Warehouse situations because aren't they moving because I know they've got a brand new Warehouse
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up at East Midlands electricity airport yeah and I know the idea was
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apparently they were having a move around on their warehouses yeah yeah some space now there's big developments
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with uh with apparently like with the back end of everything as well like getting the website up to scratch
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because like but on the face of it it looks okay but apparently there's been a lot of issues yeah especially when you go on the official disaster so this is
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something that I was going to talk about with my no experience Tim formatter on
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um and and could partially be linked to like the price Rises that they've announced recently so in the UK is it an
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average of six percent yeah so it's kind of like 36 squared is 37.50 or something
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along those lines so with like the kilting boxes and all that sort of stuff I remember on my first day at Games
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Workshop the head of security lovely chap uh was walking us around the site and he said that they had previously had
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like one Factory and that was at capacity runs all the time
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um and they built a second one and that's at capacity already um so they need a third but they don't
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have the space I think there's those two businesses across the road that they just want to like slowly invade and just like can we have your buildings I am
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really surprised that with uh especially with one of them being a woody all day I'm really surprised games where shop hasn't hired someone to Bear them to the
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ground yet
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yeah yeah because the the head of security was like I'd love that because I'd have one entrance that I need to
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keep keep eyes on as opposed to like yeah everywhere else couldn't you yeah yeah so
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um so what I was thinking uh or my line of thinking would be they can only make so much plastic at at a time yeah
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um and they're gonna make us they'll be like right we can print these kill team boxes I mean not print them but
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manufacture them for like I don't know because I don't know how it works they'll be like let's uh we can make
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them for for this week and that's all we can do and they'll make as many as possible and then the forecasting will
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be like right well we have to stop there because now we're making you know the next wave of releases which
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might be like you know be gearing up for like 10th edition weren't they so you've triggered in my head so I say trigger
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not as in like I'm pretty good but so I live to trigger it depends where it's been printed as well so if all the card
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has been printed in um it's got a 19-week window to be made
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shipped yes so when they did the forecasting for
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um Storm Shadow of old yeah they gave it numbers and they thought maybe this one
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could do with a similar set of numbers yeah but by that point it's already been shipped off yes so then they can't make
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that change yeah so maybe it could end up being like a new made toward a kind of thing because I think it's done better than we thought and now we can't
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change the second one because that's already shipping yeah right now so that that's like you know Devil's Advocate
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yeah yeah yeah yeah so like they can only make so much plastic in a certain
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amount of time that they're like this is what you've got yeah yeah but also as well as if else as well uh the the time
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between kill teams has been getting shorter as well it has it weirdly yeah maybe got it back to where it was where
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it was an original forecast yeah to be maybe they wouldn't have this because the first two because it's every quarter
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isn't it or should be yeah and then we we did the first two they were really close together then now there's been
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like a bit more of a decent break it's because it was the paint was barely dry on the breaches yeah yeah and it's like
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oh crap we've got Cask into yeah yeah um yeah yeah so you have a the other so
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sorry I'll let you finish no I've lost my train of thought oh well like I said tired little boy so my other point of view and point of
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view and opinion about this is um and we talked about on uh James Hewitt's episode is they're just making way too
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much stuff it's just so it's something that we used to experience in marketing where you're just bombarded by new
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product and I get that you want to like fan out like a shotgun and hit as many different people as possible yeah but it
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comes to the point where certainly from when I was on that side you can only be excited about this product for a week yeah but I want to
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carry on being excited about that yeah like a narrative campaign nope this is the new shiny thing you've got to be
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excited about that now yeah and I don't know about the rest of hobby center and you know opinions are valid all opinions
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are valid but personally I just think it's just there's just too much too often and I know it's like more Warhammer more often yeah it's like you
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could you could roll back a bit and let people and again they've got investors they've got um uh shareholders and stuff
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like get all that because you know you've got to pay everyone's wages and support these people that invest yeah
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um but you make a lot of money what was it 42 million profit something like that but an example of this oh 100 100
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million does it yeah an example of this as well as the fact that we're now still getting guards release yeah at the same
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point in time as we're getting blood and well details releases are going on back go again back in day
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um it's something to come out for 40K and then it would be like church bells and Tumbleweed first sometimes like a
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couple of months yeah and then when you go spacewalks are on the way a big excitement and it would build yeah and
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now it's like bang well oh going on you still well while you're reading that get ready because there's the next page
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telling you about you know yeah yeah yeah you're going just yeah I thought I never thought I'd say calm down yeah
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yeah even if I'm not buying the toys I love knowing that I'm going seeing them but just from a selfish point of view
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you could more like a Monday more often yeah absolutely oh Christ yeah we all know every model every model you'll be
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like what every every neckerunder game needs a cavalry charge
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retail and uh Studio it was like a month release so your thing will be
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pre-ordered then it will be announced and pre-ordered and then you'd have like four weeks of content dribbling through
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um and that helped make yeah articles for white dwarf because the article mode wolf could showcase all that stuff because it's all been shown yeah talk
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about that stuff and then do like different things based on it and then in retail from that retail point of view you you had these hits each Saturday
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that were the important hits that you worked in you did your big game based around that whereas now it's weekly it's insane it's just like yeah it's so crazy
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and I think like with I'm always I'm conscious of it with YouTube not wanting
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to follow like the weekly releases because there are painters out there say like um like
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War hipster um Duncan to a certain extent but because he's not like the ones that are
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in the affiliate program and when the um uh the announcement goes up that they're
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up for pre-order they've been sent them early and then that's where their painting tutorials come out and it's like thank you for Games Workshop for
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sending us this early um and sort of chasing that weekly thing
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because we're not in like if we were in the influencer program which we won't be because you know we swear pegging
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um it keeps coming up but it's a perfect example uh the fact that both of yous
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work there well yeah I don't know if that is oh that's bloody well I'm sorry I'm sorry to disagree with you yeah it
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definitely feels like a case I've seen you talking to that little boy so I'm taking me balling yeah yeah
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because I can I can understand from from like from a perspective of like Peach is gone he was a big name I was just a
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little now dead to them I was just a little character did some editing and doing more than that to me which is why
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it works and but like if if with yourself because
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you had more of like a public position in the company um I think if if you left and then they
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supported you like the other presenters might be like hmm yeah I know I mean I totally get that side of it I mean I
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even had chat with certain people around the business when I was leaving going yeah is this a thing could it be a thing well you know we don't do it for one
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particular person we won't do it for this particular person so we're probably there yeah so they they support they
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support mediocre Hobbies uh who is X Games Workshop oh of course he is yeah and and he did a video about how they
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were like because because the idea being you can't have a YouTube like dads had to take his down
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um and and that sort of stuff and he did a video about how games are Workshop will like take your channel down and he was like I think I'll just quit instead
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and he did um and he's in the affiliate program yeah so he's like the exception to the
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rules he's in retail I potentially I'm not 100 sure but he wasn't a painting
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presenter yeah yeah a big example of it's got be but if you look at the amount of subscribers and the amount of
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views if they won't support Duncan yeah there's definitely something going on
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isn't he you know what I mean well Duncan cannot confirm or deny
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I mean my first day there I Duncan I remember you saying it yeah it was it was yes contentious uh and I was like
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didn't ask but okay yeah thanks for letting me know you see I'll be really disappointed if I'm not contentious
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about who Chris Peach who his piss Creech who is this yeah I
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didn't recognize the name yeah yeah if if there's any entries for Golden demon under the name of piss Creech yes
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we were talking about that before we went uh live this morning weren't with it yeah be interesting to do like a senior Bill
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video but do it for Amazon parade and then just do like a cool army on Parade as a set of videos and now we go about
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building them and then just take it to the store and probably not get voted yeah yeah no I I think like we should we
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should make two and then like you've done both of them yeah one one of them
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one of them you go in is Chris Peach and this is my Army yeah yeah and it probably is just like it's all very
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political I don't think it could win um and then the other one we find a randomer on the street and it's just
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like yeah this is Bob uh yeah this is Ben this is James uh and he made this on
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me it's like the old authors the females they're having like male pseudonym so when they send them to Publishers they got published oh yeah so I can't think
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of it there's some famous ones but are we not sort of lining ourselves up to be the painting face The Naughty Boys of
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Games Workshop YouTuber I don't know about that because we stick up from time to time and today you know it's a bit of
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balanced conversation it's interesting so so uh my other point oh yeah remember nice so um with they can only they say
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more more often uh and the price Rises yeah okay so price rise is a crap like
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it is getting it is was already expensive it's now getting even more expensive so he's now saying less we'll
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have a Leicester yeah so I saw I saw someone post a meme on like the 40K uh
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subreddit and it was uh Games Workshop and I think it was like The Simpsons and
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they had like a notice board and it was like positives of lowering your prices or not raising your prices it was like
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more people can afford a hobby more people play the game people talk about it they enjoy it this
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that and the other literally no negatives which is obviously coming a very biased sort of way of going this is
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getting too expensive for me and and they're probably correct in the if it was cheaper more
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people would do it yeah but if they have two production plants that are at
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capacity they won't want more people to play the game because they're already making as much as humanly possible so if
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they grew to a level that they just couldn't um like cope with where like everything
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sold out all the time then that would be bad I think they've looked at everything and gone right we can only have this
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many customers we need to increase the prices to make more money off of that existing customer base yeah well this is
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like a friend of mine A friend of mine has uh two barber shops yeah and he had
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one and then it started to get too busy and he needed to open a second one he opened his second barber shop and he
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said uh I and he had a vacant position and I said are you going to try and get a local barber because they will often
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bring with a good chunk of their clients with them and he went no I'm gonna try and find a barber from out of area
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because I'm actually at the point I don't want them bringing like 60 people with them yeah because I can't afford or
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I don't really want to open a third Barber Shop which is what would happen and it's the same sort of thing sometimes you you know at one point in
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time I think that because of the popularity Spike four Games Workshop at one point in time there was the terrible
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belief and rumor that they were going we own to some degree as always people go they only care about the new player
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because they're going to sink a loads of money into a new Army yeah where obviously the season player only needs
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to top up every now and again yeah yeah sometimes if the meta changes they go oh do you know what I do need more rhinos
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or I do need more you know Cavalry or whatever so I can see and you go up but now I don't think that even is is a case
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for them now I've gone we only worry about the new player because I just think yeah it's just it's such a level of popularity yeah the amount of people
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that I've seen new year new Army yeah and how that's become a thing um which I think is a bloody terrible
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idea because you do new armies all the time anyways yes sir I mean I've always do new armies
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why should they start the year matter yeah but yeah it's just a nice new Army new new year new armor them
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Jesus Christ I'm still trying to paint the army that was new three years ago you know what I mean yeah it's mad I
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mean I've got that fully paints I had to bloody win the southern thing oh yeah yeah no yeah that's true get Eugene
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Stephen I don't know how long this argument can last but there's still I think elements of small business big
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business yep crossovers yeah but it's been about 15 20 years now I mean there
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must be a point where it's like yeah we are a big Corporation now we should have our own yes CAC together yeah
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um I'm gonna say poop for the German audience because why not well you just said uh CAC didn't you yes that's poop
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in German oh right okay yeah yeah but I was like I was like I thought I never got that job at the UN
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I'd love to see that just peachy wondering just stop bombing each other
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all you need to do to see who owns the territory is Peggy each other just get a peg clothesline you pegged them for
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territory they beg you yeah they took it the wrong way literally yeah
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all the right way okay yeah yeah but yeah I think the those elements of
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um growing and supply and demand yeah um and I think like the worst sort of
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release would win um kerosity because it just didn't make enough yeah
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well yeah but that that was like a clear and I think I remember some previous ones where a few forecasting staff got
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really bogged because of like just poor forecasting but it is guesswork right
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it's like being a weather person you are guessing you look at all the facts that you can yeah not facts the evidence in
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front of you and yeah give your best guess as to what it could be yeah some of those are new some of those have been
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there for years because some of them are experienced enough to know the hobby well but it's a nightmare balancing act
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as well because if if they're making as much plastic as they can make if you make more of one thing you're gonna have
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to make less of another oh wouldn't it be funny wouldn't it be a major big irony grenade throwing in there is if
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they weren't making enough our babies and everyone wants them but I'd made a parish loads of those new desolator squads
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[Music] still in the warehouse that's that's why they didn't have enough because they're all in the warehouse and no one and no
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one has been proud to be part of the team I've not seen anyone say that yet I've looked I've scanned across Facebook
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not Facebook I suppose I could do but it's really I think I can count on one hand the amount of people who are
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actually said the words I like them yeah yeah I really I don't know whether people are just a little bit scared
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because they don't want being piled on on social media so there was a guy I can't remember I can't remember who he
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is um I think someone asked if we could talk about it um which I guess we can touch on but
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um to a point where why people maybe don't put their names to to to being part of the team that knew the dogs
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uncles cousin's nephew that was in the same room that sniffed it or whatever um hold on yeah it was all right though
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it was good um it was uh the chap that designed the rogel dawn
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um and it and and this was pre uh bottom gate
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um yes yeah I was a bit confused so for a second I was thinking
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I mean that's wrong with this bottom that's my other thing about naming conventions but carry on yeah so
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um and uh then it obviously came out that it didn't have a floor panel yeah um and uh hellstone wargaming put a
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funny video up because he designed like a 3D printed like a panel and sold it and then did a video about how it just
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went insanely popular uh and and all the all the stuff that went with it uh it
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was very funny suggest you watch it but anyway um yeah so the the person that either I
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think I think the designer or the one of the painters or something along those lines where it's like you have to
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connect the dots it's like what does it say in their bio oh miniature designer at Games Workshop proud to be part right
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okay they made that so they made that and and then someone said oh I asked them like you know politely like what
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was the reason why it didn't have a bottom on it and and then they said the comment got deleted oh
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um oh so that Designer I guess I I know I know I was looking forward to the answer then yeah yeah that's it so so
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they obviously were just like oh God I'm so sick of this and just just go and deleting comments about flaws yeah um
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because there's probably like as as a creative I bet they wanted to put a floor on but we're probably told that
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they couldn't yeah and then and then even if somebody does really nicely ask I mean I didn't see the comment they
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might have just gone why no floor yeah um yeah and there would have been loads of those comments as well I imagine some
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people have been so angry about it it's been ridiculous yeah I I mean who has
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their models upside down on the game for a start so so to to someone I think it
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was I think you said like oh yeah I like to model someone said oh I know someone that says they'd like to model their
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tanks like going over a hill uh yeah well this was the guy this was the guy who
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um when he was going on about it and I said the admac players
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with their whatever that hovercraft thing oh yeah Dune writers or something whatever it's called yeah the ad Mech
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players and the Space Marine players with their little Mario Kart thing that they've got
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yeah Invader Invader ATV that's got nobody yeah that's a good fit as well though yeah yeah I said but I said but
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you don't see them I said I don't remember hearing them complain and then this guy immediately went why are you
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defending Games Workshop and I replied I'm not and can you explain to me in my
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previous post where I said I was where where could you point a bit where I was defend the game's wave shop yeah and he
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come back and went well all right you weren't defending Games Workshop but I wanna and then he was like and he was like oh well it's got no bottom he's
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going I I model um and I want to see this extensive diorama of just tanks
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coming over here I mean like I saw uh I think it was in like a a spiky bits article or something that I see the
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thumbnail of and I just scroll past it um and it was like to to accentuate the
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fact that you absolutely 100 needed to put floor on it it was like jumping over a big hill yeah yeah because the thing
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is if you think of it it's still got a flaw to a point to a point yeah and then
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that's like and then you go if you got to the point of a tank where you started to see where the whole Woods of the tank
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would have done that and it you know it's like oh come on we'll hide it but I mean from my point of view it's like
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it's not the end of the world it's it it I can see why people are annoyed but most people don't don't turn the tanks
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upside down they tend to take the toilet on the side well the thing is is in the rules now if we're being utterly if you
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want to go straight down the line on in the reels now you don't leave the you don't leave the wreckage on the table anyway yeah no
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that's why there is a that's why there is a dice roll for it going completely bang and oh of course I would get if you
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wanted to use it in the commander and it was seriously injured you'd have to turn upside down right so I totally understand in the wilderness yeah yeah
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because everything's an upper a month everything everything everything you'd be like oh no it's pinned yeah
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we're talking about the guy deleting the comments and stuff I mean I I wanted that to happen when I we were talking about the spray paint thing with Marathi
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it's just that because it was the same question yeah I've used that I'm like I can't answer these no someone just put
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it in the blooming post at the top just yeah this was free this is what happened yeah you don't do that because it makes
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it look like someone screwed up someone wants someone did yeah someone did screw up and then Games Workshop to a point we're incapable of saying we
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made a mistake no it's not even that it's like because how much money he keeps to cocky wheel and James Workshop out yeah to make apology videos the
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mistake wasn't like like it's a communication yeah if I mean this is the thing I used to say a lot because lots
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of paints will get removed from range and started so like the cut the painting mat we were using that for a year and we
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didn't realize we've been removed from sale and we can't show things in the videos that are no available oh that was the rule wasn't it yeah yeah so so many
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times like the paint Parts this was really nice so the paint Parts had a change of label so it used to have a big shield and it went down to Tiny shield
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with more with the words on it yeah and were told order loads more from the warehouse so we
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already like to stop full up in there oh right okay we had like a an old retail rack of paint so I'll move a favor away
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from like an old retail rack of paints say I had like six drops seven or eight drops can't remember yeah yeah
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um so that was our stock when we're doing painting videos yeah but they were all the old Badges and we were told by
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like the bosses and Community toward the answer warehouse but the warehouse would only pick out of a box so they're not going to look and go oh the guys down in
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marketing want us specific so when we did the order we got loads of the old ones again yeah and I was like I don't
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think we should do is because people are going to get the old ones anyway yeah for a long time yeah because they're still in circulation they're not just
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been them but it was just really weird it was like no you can only have oh new ones on on the videos the hold ones are
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still available the paint's not changed just just just The Shield's got slightly smaller
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it's not the end of the world no pain unless him but yeah I mean you know that happens all the time and it's communication thing and we just wanted
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like a document every month to tell us what's been removed yeah we never got it no so we're doing a video again all
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right so I have to redo that because you can't use those Clippers anymore because they're no longer available of course they're not because no one talks to each
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other no yeah yeah communication communication of like yeah Games Workshop I think I mean like I mean
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you've got to be honest where I went to up to Warhammer world the other week and I nearly tripped over one of them pieces of string between the two cans yeah it's
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when you you can't really work out which strings to what it's like so many cups in there and the Jen's toilet which
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one's that was that is that is that marketing or is that tooling hello
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yeah literally no studio
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now what I'm gonna do is move my chair a little bit so I can actually get this massive box between us
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yeah so this is for our Audio Only listeners uh that box
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is being moved the box is being moved should you do more like so oh so you've got a left you've got a collection
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almost an army is that right it's one of the giveaways uh yes so you explain the the parameters of the oh so yeah so um
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we can't be completely it can't be a raffle on patreon because that could
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potentially technically be gambling yes and and we don't want to get anyone addicted to that so at the end you know
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as a as a criminal underworld that we already are we've got four casinos on the go we can't have much more going if
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we had four kisses bleeding into my real life yeah that's gonna say if we're foxing is on the go we would not be
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filming in my spare room yeah that's it that's it so um the to
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enter into this composition you uh you do have to be a patreon um but you can you need to message as
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your favorite piece of Warhammer art and tell us why well so it's still it is
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your competition yeah it is a competition we have to pick a winner as opposed to being randomly drawn yes so
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it might it might be beneficial to to not go this is my favorite
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full stop uh which I think I have received one of so I will say you know you need to tell us you know tell us why
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go into depth yeah and there's been something that's a hint if I gave a little hint some there has been a couple of times
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people have said the same thing I think that's that's fine that's fine but I mean yeah you know I have a real dig
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deep I think I need to know because then because then you'd be making up why it's your favorite if you have to
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dig deep yeah dig deeper dig deep dig deep inside yourself
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and really get get into it as well we don't want an essay
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got the parameters just tell us your favorite piece of art tell me tell me your life story yes
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we'll start off small start with small what have we got uh I have Columbus I'm
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sorry it is fine cast but it is not a bad quality fine cast uh Marco combo
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2013 games day model oh so you know what I don't want that
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I've never seen that model yeah it's got a um I think that was in my dark times Runner I would say it's a seraphon uh
41:03
Indiana Jones crystal skull in his hand and Treasure Chest full of snakes and other stuff and eggs and I don't even
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know what that is looks like a skink's heart so is that I'm gonna pass that to you yeah go for one of those oh
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we've got Silas Beast Bane so let's be Spain stormcast eternals so so this is
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you could win that and he uh he what was uh what was he uh what was he released
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for uh it's a warmer commemorative I couldn't tell you it's probably a book or something like that age of Sigma Jeff
41:35
yeah stormcast character who's got a big sort of I think it's a minotaur's head yeah that's pretty cool I'm not thinking
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as well the preference of which model they'd like as well uh like your top three yeah we'll do our best yeah then
41:49
we have Space Marines Sergeant castes now he's a sergeant not a lieutenant no
41:54
so that's good it's rare that we get to see sergeants not lieutenants as a separate figure this is interesting see
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in that in that game's Workshop video where they um talked about the pronunciation stuff yeah they said it's
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not Lieutenant it's Lieutenant depends where you are in the world it depends where you are in the world and I was
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like because it is a French word and they say Lieutenant lieutenant and the Americans but then the English were like
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well we're just going to Jumble some letters up left-handed everyone else is wrong oh they say Bill instead of
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Belvoir Castle it's beaver beaver Castle isn't it yeah it's great it sure sounds more exciting
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yeah so we got one tear that would be the place I was hoping yeah that's it when I first came to Nottingham I was
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looking at some places to cycle oh hang around oh look at that angry boy oh yeah
42:42
what anger on as a separate don't we yeah so this this can be angron on his own yeah you could win anger on on his
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own he's an angry boy angry Ron and talking briefly of angron have you seen a Peter War Gamers uh conversion of him
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yes but he turns him into as it what had happened if they've gone uh lemon Russell yes is the battle for separate
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uh battle forces uh yeah I added to the other one uh oh the Battle Force isn't
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in this month sorry that's gone in the box but um so this this I can't pass you some and I'll hold some so we've got
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jackals this is the Army now so yeah so we've got one box of jackals we've got uh space Pig space Pig and uh there's
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two boxes uh two boxes of corny bazarax uh with
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and
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with these voices yeah so it's essentially what will be the the world eaters combat Patrol with anger yeah and
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it could be any level yeah any level of patreon it doesn't matter what level you pick we also have some old art now
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people may remember this the collected visions of Horus heresy a lot of the art mostly a lot of people are really excited about the box so this is the
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collector's game I've seen more people talk about the books than the in the Miniatures yeah because you know what's great about these books the artists are
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credited could you say that louder for the big artists accredited for the people in the back we also have the art
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of warmer 40 000 so this is probably seventh edition before so what's in that box
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very cool and then this is the art of Warhammer I don't I think there's a no I don't think there's any age of Sigma
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stuff it's all warmer fantasy battle so okay if you're after doing a warmer fantasy battle Army for Old World this is the book for you because it's got
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loads of cool art of all the stuff in there that's fantastic so that is a lot of things for this month that is
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favorite piece of art nice bit of storage to why and then top three as to what you'd like yep so messages on
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patreon or uh hit me up with a message on Discord if you're in there
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okay fantastic that's very impressive thank you thank you very much
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I'm not wearing any trousers so anyway we should we should make that a thing on Monday it's just no no
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trouser Mondays no trials on Monday yeah I I I uh I say that jokingly but
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um I uh sat down on the toilet earlier today oh nice I looked down and uh
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through the hole in my boxes and my jeans I was just looking at the floor I need some new clothes
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I get told off by Liz because I I um I'm not sure if it's just because of like
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sitting down a lot and moving back and forth and talking stuff like that but I intend to rub the bit down at the bottom
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okay and after a while I bend over it just goes
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you need to reinforce your gusset because that even though Gus Gus it
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sounds wrong but it is just a like a reinforced part of your trousers yeah it's a great way of course I always used to giggle when I was in Pottery because
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the edge of a plate is called a flange I've been watching um the great Pottery
45:54
Throwdown which is like bake off but for pottery yes uh and that's on channel four and the amount of innuendos and
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everything is just do they ever do like a scene with the Righteous Brothers music going off in the background really
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you're not wrong about them yeah they yeah there was one where it was
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just like oh you have to have a shapely knob on top of your part and all this thing and and then they they look like
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they're milking cows blindfolded sometimes um when when you make the handle sweet
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pots and you just have to hold like a long spindly piece and like and just oh yeah yeah yeah my wife used to work in a
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library uni she used to work out and there was there was a terminology that was used to uh Tech a book uh I can't
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refuse to do like the security on it um and then give it to the person yeah I
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need to satisfy your book before it can be discharged
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and it's like did no one think what that sounded like
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I need to satisfy that before I mean if you weren't paying attention you just heard that I need to satisfy that before it's discharged
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let's go enough in this Library you can't you can't just discharge without no satisfaction
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[Laughter] s laughs oh God I feel even worse now thanks Jeff
47:22
oh dear that's always happy for help yeah well certainly but you know
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oh I have a good stretch I feel good sorry everybody I knew that I need that oh yeah poor peachy a bit under the
47:34
weather I don't know I think just having a son coughing into your face at night time doesn't help with anything
47:39
yeah probably and it's when he's asleep so you know we try and teach him the manners to put your hand over your mouth
47:45
on your car yeah or like look away when you're coughing yeah that's fine when he's asleep oh yeah oh God and you wake
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up like just a child there cut into your face oh God that's that's two days of like sore throat and like runny noses
47:58
yeah yeah just like outside playing in mud yeah putting his fingers in his
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mouth coughing it onto you what I really like is when they do like
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a thing the teachers do like like a an activity like making cakes or making Tarts or something like that yeah and
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they go the children will be making cakes today we'll be bringing one home you won't want to eat it yeah
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we're going anywhere near anybody's mouth yeah this is that because it's full of kids that they they should be
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washing hands but they you know what kids yeah yeah fingers and everything uh so I always used to find that funny like
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yeah he's made he's made a little Jam tart don't eat it that okay so so how how do you does the
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kid go like like does Charlie go like eat this Dad yeah eat it in front of me
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and tell me how good it is he did that and I was like because they had like a picnic at the school and turned sideways and put it on the back yeah
48:57
this is really nice because kids have short attention spans right oh look away
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and do something else I've been well and then he turns around he'll be like where is it nice it was a huge cake
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I ate all of it yeah because I'm amazing because I'm a dad and you're only five so you don't understand you know what
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the world that was the one that was funny and spoilers if you've got anybody watching this who is Young because
49:21
they're about to be I mean we can we can beep stuff I guess no no you can't beat this
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um turn off now when um my eldest thou being the age of years
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gets to stay up a little bit later and he was staying up later on Christmas Eve and my wife had just done the whole
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mince pie and shot of uh I think it was a shot of rum oh first Santa for Santa
49:47
when she'd gone through it with Elijah even though I don't think my nine-year-old still believes but it's too polite to say anything
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um yeah but there we go so there's that and there's a carrot and there's all the rest of it you know and she went no no
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off to bed and he went off to bed and he was upstairs about about half an hour my eldest would sat downstairs with us and
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then I was going out into the kitchen as I went and I was going oh hang on bang knock that one I did through the mid
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drive a month and my elders even though he blatantly knows when if I feel like Christmas has been
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slightly moving Yeah well yeah yeah there's no Santa what yeah
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like he knows but you don't want to see it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
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see my mum and dad sneak presents I think it was like 87 so I was like seven still so I think it was that realization
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that it's probably not true but you still want to hold on to that belief I remember I remember exactly where I was when I figured out Christmas wasn't real
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yeah yeah we're like I was on a dog walk with uh with my mum and my sister and it
50:45
just all I can't remember because how old she's just I'll watch your sister got on you uh two years two years yeah
50:51
so I I was like the the last sort of believer in the household that sounds quite religious now
50:57
um and I can't remember like what triggered it or anything but I just remember exactly where I was like the road I was on where I still would stand
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stop still and just being like but then so you you just put the carrots
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back in the bag and then you eat the mince pie yeah and I'm like my whole life was
51:16
alive that was that was an event we had that it was um my wife had gone to get a
51:22
cinnamon tea from a um from a Costa we were in Manchester we'd we'd been up shopping and then we were going to have
51:28
an early um Christmas dinner with some of our family who live in Manchester because they weren't going to be about for Christmas they were yeah they were
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going to be elsewhere so um we were walking back to the car and Hayley so I'm just going to go over there and as
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you're walking along and I've got Elijah's only got very young and is in the prom and I'm talking to my eldest
51:44
boy and I'm going you know when for Santa coming and he went dad he said I'm
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gonna have to say this I don't I don't believe in Father Christmas and I went and I thought I'm not going to argue it
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and I went okay me and then I said well now you're now part of the story that you have to keep it going um yeah you're
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now part of the LIE basically you know yeah and you have to keep it going for him and he was like okay and then the
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second thing that happened on that story which is not really Christmas related but it was quite amusing uh when we got to our vans we parked in
52:17
the street where all of our all your vehicles were parked on a slight diagonal it's just down from Manchester University and
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um I I generally I I genuinely am wherever possible a helpful person and as I got
52:29
to the car I'm loading the kids while they're getting started our van as I'm loading the kids in and I look I can see a guy's
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head pop up from behind the car and then disappear again and then a little and then I'm like look
52:42
and then he comes up again and then it disappears again and I was like poor guys obviously searching for his car key
52:49
so I go into the bottom of the van and I've got a big torch and I grabbed the big torch and went I'm gone mate I'm
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shout on a rundown towards I've got this big torch on and I go I'll
52:59
help you lock mate and there's a swing like that the guy is praying oh really okay it's obviously yeah chap you know
53:06
and he's praying and he's obviously got his angle for you know for for the direction to pray and I come down with a
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big tour shined on like the back of his head I mean big Scouts Gob
53:19
so I have that two things you know you were saying about remembering where you were what he didn't believe in Santa
53:24
where it was when my elders stopped leaving in Santa and then I can remember the fact that I interrupted somebody while they were trying to mind their own
53:30
business [Laughter] just just trying to be helpful just
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trying to be here that's it I mean that's sometimes where it's like I could be helpful in this situation but they
53:41
also might just not want my help yeah oh I always forget it's a tough balance so
53:46
I think about it too it's the way I've been brought up I like to think I'm polite and I'll offer help when needed and same appears and q's and stuff like
53:53
that we're talking about the last show about the custodies being smashed in the doorway and that was only James because
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one of the photographs dropped it twice and there was this weird etiquette at the doors and I used to have a rule
54:06
which was like my my three strikes if someone never said thank you for you open the door for him yeah I was like
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you're a knob yeah yeah because I've done it first time you're like you're probably busy second time probably
54:17
stressed third time unforgivable you're now or not you're dead to me yeah fourth time I will literally yeah yeah that's
54:25
where James didn't explain the other half of that story was the fact that that army that was smashed was peachy
54:31
yeah yeah booting it from the other side but on the flip side so there was like an
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annoying etiquette when you got to doors everyone would feel that they need to open the door for you because that was really polite it's really nice and you'll be
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like if you're just walking through with a cup of tea and someone opens to me oh cheers that's fine but the ones that used to get me were the ones that would
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awkwardly open the door so let's say you're the door come on come through the door right and what they're doing is the
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door swings
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this is weird this feels weird I'm touching Jeff's here so I'm now holding the door for you so this person's out
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holding the door for me I've got a tray of models I've now got to Lombardo underneath his arm oh yeah because what
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they've done see you after taking they've not had those sort of like sense of awareness they're just going I'm gonna be really polite and open this door for you like I can get because I'm
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so used to carrying the door open the model oh sorry carry model's name in the door on my own yeah um I'll be like dude
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I've got it it's fine I've got my elbows like no no no it's fine I've gone I've got I am not that small yeah I am not
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going to fit without dropping this stuff and I'm going to drop loads of really yeah so many people like drop stuff because people are trying to be overly
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polite and no one wanted to question it and say it but you get to the point where you're just like no I've got it mate it's fine you have to be like a bit
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firm about it but then when you're a bit firm everyone's like not like super happy chilled yeah that moment you just
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go no I've got it's okay they're like why is he why is it I'm not yeah yeah going oh do you know what I just tried
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to open the door for that picture I didn't realize yeah yeah but I always say thank you so I appreciate it no but you know I'm really sure
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yeah I don't want to do this every day no no there's always that one guy that was just like every time we're just like
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don't worry I've got the door for you it's the same guys how many times I have to have a conversation with this guy and then you you end up like just like
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giving up and just like trying to like Lombard her underneath is it Lombardo we have the no it's um
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someone props the door open and you like not again you just drop the models reach
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for your miraculous we're getting broke yeah
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it's an involuntary response it just happens yeah they'd be like nobody hold the door
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open for Christmas yeah it gets weird and then maybe that's why people wouldn't do it no no no so um there's
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still people still hold doors it was more I had this rule which was like you know if you hold the doors that was just a bit of a random secret I do this I
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start story and start from the beginning of time oh it's fine I do this with my wife she's just like You Can Tell She's Like skip to the end please because this
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is taking ages what what is the point of this so I was telling her about a journey into work the other day where I had like a bit of an incident with a car
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and it started off when I was explaining about a paramedic being in front of me and she's thinking what's going to happen I was like oh by the way the
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paramedic has no relevance because about four minutes in I realized
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I've been going on about this paramedic that had no relevance to the story because I overtake him yeah yeah and
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then he turned left oh yeah yeah
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my favorite one of them in space is when uh daisy saying something oh she said so
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oh where do I start near the end I'd love space yeah I loved it so much
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yeah yeah was it tires it was used to like yeah and he's like right I'm home for a pain
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in the black stuff and he's like you can't drink a bunch of overall oh yeah
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oh he's so good oh so many so quotable yeah so what was it with tires uh
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because obviously it was like a terrible speed addict wasn't it yeah from doing it on the club what was it how was last
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night last night uh foreign last night was A1 Tip Top clubbing Jam
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Fair it was a sandwich of fun wrapped up in ecstasy bread now if I could just get rid of these daisies
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yeah oh and then like the kettle goes yeah yeah it's so good so many good
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characters if you've never seen spaced um Simon Pegg before he went Nick roster
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right before they all really went big time um it's all on uh on demand on
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channel 4. so there we go because it feels like you just did a plug then yeah yeah and if you're in the US you could
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download a VPN and watch it which we may be doing an Android for soon yeah I won't say anything but we've signed
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stuff did you read did you read the script I've not yet I've been meaning to because you sent it and I was like I
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think I can't remember if it was late I know I was busy yeah but I was gonna have a look at it the next day and then like I've sent away I've sent it off to
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the lady so this is your tweaks in she'll probably review it and then no and then she'll be like no it's really
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bad I'll never read I'll tell you if it's going to be really bad or not yeah no I think like it's gonna be it's gonna
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be wordy because you have to get all this information in there um but hopefully it's funny yeah
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hopefully all right I'm I'm never like it's it's really interesting like uh having I made
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a joke earlier about hating myself but um I always think like I'm not
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I'm just going to change that um but yeah like like when we had Dave on I was like oh it's really funny he's
1:00:12
great at camera work and I was just like I'm just inferior yeah yeah same so he's
1:00:17
like oh what what what guy yeah he was a great chatting too and I haven't laughed
1:00:23
quite that hard uh well I know exactly I haven't laughed that hard since he told me your Pagan story uh with his foreign
1:00:31
book oh yellow balls seen it by now but that
1:00:37
story the last minute and a half of the Dave Walker Ms paints episode if you haven't
1:00:42
it's all worth a watch yeah but the last minute and a half is just like such an amazing end to that episode skip to the
1:00:49
end yeah yeah yeah no no Dave's a legend yeah yeah
1:00:56
like I don't think we'll uh and any any AD revenue from that episode yes thanks
1:01:02
Dave well I gave up censoring him it's just like because it's the Space Marine Science machine well I will have used it
1:01:09
already what maybe four or five times yeah in an hour like it's fine and you hear a grown man go ever seen you're
1:01:16
like that's it that's funny yeah um but the the frequency that I was having to use it I was just like I don't
1:01:23
like this yeah uh this is actually a bit annoying yeah um but it's worth him to have him on definitely like and and
1:01:30
people know what Dave's like in in these videos and everything so I wasn't bothered I just put a little warning at the start yeah
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um
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um and and hopefully if people don't know Dave they do know about him now there was one comment on on Discord was
1:01:48
like oh for my sins I didn't know who Dave was but now I've subscribed and watched loads of stuff I mean I'm the same since leaving Workshop there's a
1:01:54
lot of people I never knew existed yeah I mean I've seen like faces and heard names banded around the office usually
1:02:00
good sometimes not so and then yeah you go you leave and then you're gonna like who's this person again I recognize the
1:02:06
name oh yeah I've seen this stuff yeah I've seen some of his stuff yeah okay yeah so Dave was quite a new one to me it wasn't until like yeah you two used
1:02:13
to plug him a lot in your early shows when I was watching those when I was still working in a quick shop you talk about him the painting coach and stuff I was like these sound like great people
1:02:19
sound like people up my alley I'll follow these And subscribe to him so but yeah there's some Wicked people out
1:02:25
there I mean I'm very uh unhappy that he came on because uh I bought a new lens
1:02:31
because he told me about it and I was like I just have to have that in my life yeah and then I have to have the accessory that goes with it so I can
1:02:37
make shots like this and it's all I can think about now um and I've just got to do it and then I
1:02:42
do it and then I calm down I've got necomunder to to continue filming so there's lots of opportunities to use your uh your new attachment to your lens
1:02:51
I don't know you well because because it's strangely sexual I mean I mean the
1:02:56
the lens itself is pretty phallic um it's it's it it does look a bit dodgy
1:03:02
yeah yeah um so so that's completely understandable the entire Barrel light
1:03:07
rotates it's awesome yeah it's really cool so um but yeah no Dave Dave did a video uh
1:03:13
it was called like the future of War gaming scenery I think it was cool but it just had so many cool shots in it and
1:03:18
I was just like I messaged him on Instagram because you know we're really tight now um I mean we're not and I was just like
1:03:24
Dave Dave I can't I can't think about anything else how did you do that shot I need to know because I couldn't figure
1:03:30
it out and then he was like Dave is part of peer pressure yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's good I like I I
1:03:37
was I'm I was watching his video and I was like God he's done that well he's done that well he's done that well like
1:03:44
so many good uh good bits to sort of draw inspiration from uh about how like
1:03:50
that we can bring into our own painting videos and stuff like that super interesting yeah absolutely cool it's it's uh always developing yes well
1:03:58
that's the thing isn't really we we tweak we don't stay that's it I don't want to lose that I don't want to have
1:04:03
like we do things this way yeah and then and then in five years time touchwood if
1:04:09
we're big enough to ever have like employees and stuff they'd be like why do you do it like that and if I go well
1:04:15
we've always done it like that that's when I need to shoot myself in the head and uh yeah and and quit because and
1:04:21
that's when we start telling them that they're they're part of a team yeah our
1:04:26
employees will be yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely get your hands back in shot
1:04:31
yeah my faces yeah yeah oh actually I
1:04:36
won't be there because I would have left by that point yeah because I just got bigger again right and then I was just about too good for this I need to be an
1:04:42
actor yes no that would happen because thespian my butthole
1:04:48
speaking of the [Laughter]
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witchfield where's that going did you see them I shared the meme of like my
1:04:59
Morpheus uh I got a couple of people because I've put on Instagram so that was from this is the point I
1:05:05
want to clarify here so a few people are gone Ah that's interesting that photoshop's your face even more feels like no it's actually a video that was
1:05:11
made and I was dressed up as Morpheus because it was for contrast it was like there was three videos all right okay it's just really funny because it's
1:05:17
talking about like um it's the Morpheus quote but instead of yeah yeah it's about like doing dry brushing or whatever
1:05:22
and uh yeah a few people have just gone that's really you know weird that they've photoshopped your face and I was
1:05:28
like that's not Photoshop that's me actually you oh oh I don't know I'll probably talk about off camera because I
1:05:33
don't know if it will be like not seen as being politically correct or anything like that but that was an issue about the colors of the chair
1:05:41
um on the actual show when we did the video so they've got green chairs in the background um
1:05:48
yeah well they're red in the movie oh they're red in the movie and uh a couple
1:05:54
of people are like the color of the chairs is wrong and one of the editors went and that's the color bomb you have
1:05:59
just carried up oh yeah Laurence Fishburne Junior yeah yeah it
1:06:06
was a weird video I must admit and the the strange thing about that video was they hide an actor in who did
1:06:12
um he I think he did acting he did like other like modeling things as well he was like an underwear model and he did
1:06:18
the first one which was 50 shelves of gray um because it was available to contrast then they did three year models which is
1:06:24
like take the red the painted model the unpainted model and then the third one was like Conan yeah what is best in life
1:06:29
oh I'd seen the Kona I think I've seen the Conan one so um he was he was in it so he's an actor he's done acting uh he
1:06:35
gave me some teachers at the start of that that shoot and it was a pretty dangerous shoe because in the middle of works with them we had all these like camera things but like cable to gaffer
1:06:41
tape and they could have fallen down at any point so I was just like but um I was told that I didn't need to
1:06:47
rehearse we would just do sections of script yeah at the time yeah you would just turn up the rock up and you'll just
1:06:53
do a section to camera and then we'll do the same one to another camera and the same with another camera and I was like
1:06:58
just for my own security just so I'm familiar with it I'll just rehearse the whole thing so like for two weeks as the buildup would be referencing it to um on
1:07:05
my bike drive to work and my bike drive back from work it was the most I've ever rehearsed and I don't know how I'm active dude I've got like you know take
1:07:11
my hat off there must be like some special technique they used yeah remember lines and stuff but my recourse terrible and I got there and they're
1:07:19
like yep just go and I'm like what they're like yep do the whole thing I'm like oh that's a really good job it's a
1:07:25
bloody good job yeah the worst thing about it was this guy's a trained actor they've paid for him to come in I do and
1:07:30
you did all the Talking I did all the Talking apart from him obviously his reaction was top-notch it was the best reaction ever oh yeah contrast
1:07:38
question mark at his head obviously it's like I'm there yeah yeah and it was just like so weird that you got like a paid
1:07:44
actor to to just respond and the guy who doesn't who does painting videos yeah
1:07:50
that's hilarious so if you ever watched that video it was fun to do a little bit uh anxiety driven when I'm filming oh I
1:07:57
can imagine yeah I mean as many reasons as I was um leaving GW at the end of
1:08:04
2021 I think so November 21 and um they were filming a Christmas video
1:08:10
with James Workshop like all over there oh yes all over the campus part of that as well remember and uh and it never got
1:08:16
released yeah um because apparently it was of a questionable quality oh yeah or
1:08:21
something along those lines like it was it was pretty bad but they spent so much money on that video yeah it was a lot of money yeah and
1:08:28
um some of the footage was stock footage from like Nottingham Trent University yeah University which has nothing to do
1:08:33
with games because I think it was like oh we need like like nightclub footage or something
1:08:39
like that and and the stock foot up that yeah I mean I've never seen it but yeah no I saw it I heard Tales yeah yeah her
1:08:46
those that have watched it rumors and shenanigans they were like no one else can see this yeah yeah oh I'm stretching
1:08:53
again sorry yeah it was good no I think well I think we've been going for over an hour oh wow time has flown by bedtime
1:08:58
now that's just all drowned down power down yeah so yes I mean as we always say uh don't
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1:09:17
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1:09:23
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1:09:28
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1:09:35
be at a loose end of like oh I haven't brought them today but I will include
1:09:40
them uh I'll bring them for next week is that are as I like to call them are man in Japan
1:09:46
who uh oh yes who does our uh who's been working on some stickers for us as
1:09:52
centers are loads of really nice decals or decals from a whole range of different uh a whole range of different
1:09:58
armies so when you're in um when you if if you are one of the people lucky enough to win it tell us
1:10:04
what you collect and we'll do our best to match some decals to what you collect and we'll stick them in there for you as
1:10:09
well along with a little cheap and what way do you mean because if they're okay well if they collect like um well I'll
1:10:15
give you some examples yeah yeah yeah yeah and I'll show them next time if you collect um chaos yeah sandal is very
1:10:22
kindly done um he's got a decal sheet which is loads of chaos symbols nice and he's got one which is um
1:10:29
checkerboards which you can use for Orcs but then there's also stuff on them that look like um they can be used as like um
1:10:35
campaign badges for uh Space Marines they've got loads of Gothic scripts yeah and things like that and uh so anyone
1:10:41
wins tell us what you collect and we'll try and get something Imperial guards it isn't something that's going to be in
1:10:48
there because he's only he's only sent he's only really sent just a couple but is for those who are jeans still call
1:10:54
collectors he's now done the decal sheet that does all those Hazard stripes for uh Rock Grinders and all of the digital
1:11:02
displays that can go on the ground as well so that's scumbag Customs sander in
1:11:07
Japan excellent ever since you talked about eye transfers I've always wanted to find them yeah I don't know how to
1:11:13
find them again yeah I've been looking on eBay and so because someone said I found something like dolls like like
1:11:18
bigger ones no there was a small group because I did um when we did the Cassian
1:11:24
and k2so there was yeah Empire uh decals you can't get the money eBay anymore you can get all the others yeah all the
1:11:30
other factions apart from Empire so they've just disappeared maybe they sold out because of watching our tutorial
1:11:35
maybe maybe they're still going to make it but yeah the Island's not seen again I've seen people use them and I saw them on some like um DND figures people have
1:11:42
done them because they want to paint figures fantastic because yeah I can't be that's pretty nice yeah I'm not good
1:11:49
enough do an eye to them yeah yeah blasphemy is it is very good uh helping
1:11:55
out with ideas that's a good idea sorry sorry
1:12:03
yeah I think we should call it he's a real expert he's the sort of guy to be uh good to be
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a pupil of okay okay bye everyone