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Cursed City, Necromunda, and a load of the usual Waffle
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Dec 28, 2022
We filmed this pre-hack! i.e. filmed before our latest chat show release. The team talk about Cursed City, starting playing Necromunda, and jammy dodgers. Enjoy! Join our Patreon: https://patreon.com/thepaintingphase Help Support the channel with our affiliate links: UK: https://elementgames.co.uk/?d=10835 EUROPE: https://taschengelddieb.de/?affiliate=tpp US: use code paintingphase to get 10% off at https://www.goblinshut.com/ We Print Miniatures: https://weprintminiatures.com/thepaintingphase THEPAINTINGPHASE for 10% off Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/thepaintingphase/ https://www.instagram.com/__peachy_tips__/ https://www.instagram.com/geoffsavory/ https://www.instagram.com/pileofshamepaints/ Where we get our music: https://artlist.io/Patrick-75781
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hi I'm peachy and I am the voice of the mysterons oh that's a nice throwback for
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anybody old enough and after feeling that my ego was dented last week even though I did it myself I'm Jeff and
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welcome to the jeffing face can't go wrong with a good Jeff and
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is that post teaching yeah I like to think I may have fluid the before it goes wherever it wants it is
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[Laughter] got a weird tasting about that [Music]
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Dodgers
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they're an old school favorite since the Jammy Dodger for I'm going to show one because some of our some of our lists
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that our listeners viewers are American yeah not nowhere well with the listener you have to describe it looks like a bum
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hole oh my God no it's it's put me off with me next one now it's a it's a
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biscuit sandwich and the filling is jam and it's gonna cream and jam has been
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injected into the hole in the top of the biscuit which is not making it sounds anything
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it's full of cream with a Jammy hole stop I I like two words battle friendly
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it's got to be challenged I want to describe the biscuit biscuits right biscuits cookies no I I
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was confused I went it was right last trip to Las Vegas open LBA as it's known
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yes and there's something called uh I think Blue Ribbon chicken which is not far from it's a bit like a KFC and I was
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hungry wait for lunch and you could buy a meal deal and at the end was biscuits I was like oh I Like Biscuits I'll get a
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couple of biscuits to go in my you know put in in my head I was in English mode thinking cookies oh no yeah like
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Americans have biscuits and gravy yeah scones only it's like scone kind of style thing like a Steve let's go did
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you do you say scone scarum's gone I say gone it's gone well I don't see Stone I
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say Stone so yeah yeah I don't know
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so the people are just too near we're going to spend the next hour arguing about what's called bread roll yeah
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from people when they they see how uh how angry yeah such a small country yeah
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oh really all around bread thing yeah so it's in the states there but I think it
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was a miles of wilderness before they get angry and the ball Deuce yeah by the time yeah they got angry about it is by
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the time they've actually got to the next city seven hours away that they forgot all about it
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yeah you were like so why did you uh public man into a bloody mess sir well
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he called a bread roll a stotty you're being a cop sir oh don't get
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started on me don't like me don't let me get the bomb kicks out about baked some cakes
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yeah start it in it's just bread it's a Bread's in different sheep yeah so in in
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um slightly old topic um oh God the best dad see that's what we're here for I've been doing well on just on the on the
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topic of you know the English language and different dialects yeah uh I received an email from a chap well it
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it's from Germany and it's Philip with two peas so it's like Philippe Phillip fishery Peas on the knee no just two
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people because he spent some time in Germany yeah yeah um but it's all classified uh
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so uh no he asked some questions um I listened Dusseldorf there we go and
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apparently at one point there was going to be a GW HQ there oh wow
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I don't know any answers if we know anything about it I don't think we did I could say I liked Russellville if we've
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been there entire space Have You Been to Aston have you done yet yes I did speed away yeah because actually down the road
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yeah why not stopped before Dusseldorf on the train far from Wild um you have some questions about
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necromondo which I think maybe we'll be able to shuffle it we'll touch him a little bit but he said um keep up the good work you're the only
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English Channel I can't watch at 1.5 speed just normal speed your accents
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make it impossible yeah that's the way to learn English is
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to delve into the dialects of different Midlands absolutely right I I can't I
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think uh I think if we make poor Phillips watch it at normal speed instead of
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being able to Whisperer yeah I mean the the cumbrian dialect is
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amazing um it's kind of like Yorkshire on steroids but like and it just makes
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it other it's such an amazing story um where like we have all these like rural
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post offices that are just like in the back of someone so yes yeah it's like I'm gonna go to the Post Office like my mum sent me that one so I was like I'm
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just walking in someone's house she's like yeah that's fine um and oh this old lady she was looking for a key
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um because the bin men were after this key so they could take the rubbish away yeah and the key was in a tin
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um and and this old lady so you know you were I'm telling you the story in advance because when I say in the
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language it just doesn't make sense right so she's like Margaret has the same key and she's like no inti Tin Tin
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isn't it it's brilliant I would just like no I didn't Tintin
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yeah and it's like has been men bit this is why the Germans couldn't take
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over during World War II really yeah when I moved to Nottingham
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but I didn't have a lot of money I was trying to find there was this particular shop where is this gonna go no it
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doesn't go there that's a different story um we're trying to find this particular shop to buy second hand uh you know
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equipment for the kitchen and and I'll enter this I went to this shop that was
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too too women around the shop that just sold wall yeah and they were sitting
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there one of them was sitting there with knitting and I wonder if and I had like this rough location for the shop and this is
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gonna sound terrible for people who own English you are from England but I went in other words excuse me I said can you
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tell me where the shop is that sells cookers right and she went sell swap meet up and
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I went cookers and she went no no so I'm not getting that she went what is it that went cookers and she
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literally turned and she went Julie and the woman came up the dark and she went yeah she went do you know where there's
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a shop around here that sounds cuckoo's yes that's what I'm after a small wood
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hovering bed oh man what shops that
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I just like caught just a replacement bed for your clock yeah if that's just it's just got tiny little like yeah yeah
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a quarter inch sized wooden little did you walk in with a monocle and the top and you're like my very intricate Swiss
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cuckoo clock well actually I was in full Australian descent that was a big brother
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I had a Lost in Translation situation in Germany and it was when I went to games
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they play and I was with me um at the time Kevin still works for a workshop I think he works at the concept you know
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he's a very clever guy and he needed some toothpaste and I'd like a little gym in sort of like speech book yeah my
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wife had got old for me and I was like don't worry Kev I've got this I used to I was born here I was born here I know I
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don't know language I am never good and so we went to this little off license
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um sort of like I guess lose agent's place then I went for the lady and I tried to say in the best gym and I could
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do you have any toothpaste and she looked at me go there bear in mind it's cologne uh I I thought I'd do some hand
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gestures to to try and describe so much yeah toothpaste I was like
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she was like [Laughter] you do realize what you've just done I
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was like what it's like no one cleans their teeth like that stick them together of course
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[Music] this is this is me putting the toothbrush down too far
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sorry I'm watching that try to explain this to the children I do apologize dads
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we're normally quite PG well there's a swearing this is nice I'm still I'm I
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still am uh mentally scarred from last week when you said you'd give me two fingers I'm still trying to get over
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that oh yeah well that was well we filmed both those shows at the same time so that was last week for us two weeks
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ago four again yeah foreign
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[Laughter]
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that was just like a box design to get you divorced wasn't it if you were buying Warhammer on the slide oh yeah
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yeah yeah you know I mean because it used to just come in a brow box didn't it well you know when it used to games
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where chop would send you a box or stop it we just used to be in a box and then they started stamping on the bot had the
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Box printed with more Warhammer more often yeah yeah yes you can hide it
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more likely to be single by the end of the year I purchased stuff from Santa I use our
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affiliate links obviously Pat but cold sounds tunnel is a better offer I will buy um some Star Wars figures from uh
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Dark Star designs and they have the option of having like would you like your package and secrets as I know
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that's gonna cost you more and I'll raise eyebrows on the watch she's like even much more Star Wars stuff I think
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yeah telephone because um I didn't wasn't interested style of Legion and
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their friends uh who's interested other Starfighter really in Star Wars it was his bit of awful just work and stuff or
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he's walking around the Darth Vader as they always say dress for the job you want yourself yeah
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and I want to be second in Commander well I mean he was in charge of the
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caretaking team then was in charge of uh their Tech um got Tech DT yeah he was like the guy
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who did all that the code and stuff he also the teacher it was like oh yeah yeah I'm with the uh yeah sort of technician going
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um but yeah she was like we really want to get a really cool present Jeff there's any Star Wars figures could you paint some up for him and I was like
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yeah sure that's what got me a couple we escaped from that place all the time but yeah it's weird that you have the option
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to make it secret so your other half doesn't know yeah it's dangerous it's very dangerous yeah I think that there's
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some companies out there for Geek supplies that will actually do the other thing that I was like has a boxer says
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things like congratulations on within the competition oh yes if you take the deception of your
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other half like real high-end levels do you think there could be an option where it's like would you like us to disguise
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your Miniatures as an and Summer's parcel and then when it comes to Christmas
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there'll be questions asked I mean I have a question what did you buy yourself from anselb as a get word would
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you refer to it as a part of Shame a pilot potential or a spending problem
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had an opportunity oh checked in the fourth sorry I think for me it's pile of Shame
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um because I can I can sling it off as saying hey look we've got this set now and lots of boxes
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um but I didn't need that much yeah I think for me it's definitely spending probably to cut down yeah yeah buy it
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yeah true I'm actually in a weird position with Warhammer is I've got to the point now where I'm actually
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struggling to find out if I'm left to buy oh I've I my soul's Army I think I sat
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down and tallied Isaac's Army up the other day roughly on Battle scribe other Army building programs are
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available maybe not that one you have to pay for but listen about that the better yeah
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fam I'm um he's uh I think I've got Isaac so I think I might I think there has been a
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spending this year at some point in time Isaac Sam space [ __ ] but Space Marine Army is coming in it's just about seven
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thousand points did you did you say to me when I when I nipped in to get my hair cut you got to just on HQ so you
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stop on HQ yeah I've got hqs of 1700 points but how many
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played a single Army and my sister's signal and there's there's more stuff than I'd ever use but it gives you options right yeah yeah that's the point
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it's it's not all you're not I mean you could feel the more in one day I mean the Space Marine chapter boy wouldn't have that many commanders oh well I've
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got well yeah you know what though you think how many variants of Captain there is for just just for Primark that's
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because he doesn't collect Fair sport Marines just primaries and it's like every single Captain option other than
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that one Joey they did that one by primaris Captain where it was done to look like the old like second edition
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one was five on the pistol and he's got the power fist raised oh yes he is based on the whole opponents I think that's
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about the only one of like the captains they probably hasn't got which is like that one's like
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rock and horse poo now to get all that so I'm talking a second edition I've got a second mission Imperial Guard codex
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all of the catches enough of the green oh yeah you have to cool up another and I was looking through it and I was thinking when the Canadians become
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available in the New Year aren't it's a ballsy move Pat but I think I might do an army with goblin Green bases in the
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same style color scheme send to the Canadians like in so I might do a platoon like two Squad to ten Canadians
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in a command Squad that start with Goblin Movie base is red guns and because I've got enough of the forage
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caps oh yeah yeah I can make because that's the plan as well is to to do
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um audience across the Cadia sandbox
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15 16 forage caps I didn't realize yeah
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so you get with the if you equip your audience goes out to you guys with helmets Yeah you sergeants without
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Sergeant looking helmets the Caps are meant to be for the signs because got a little head pieces but if you the skew
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what those you can make it couple of squads of audience so I've gone the crew enough that I might even do a patina
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Morgan's platoon of Canadians a couple of Tanks oh that'd be cool and do a classic
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I might be Goblin green face and then the rim has to be goblin Green as well right yeah it's still right yeah yeah
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still Legion drop no I'll do a goblin Green Oh Oh
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disgustingly I'm only across the ball the black beans guy that was it I think in Ninja's latest
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video he said like friends don't let friends paint their bases in another color them little black I just for me I
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just think I I because my my piles we got to mention all the time Tim he's a
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um he's a brown base guy I always and he always Christian why'd you do blackmails go I was just real black makes whatever
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is immediately on top a bit of pop a bit more yeah I mean when Leary says a black
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beast makes it look like a beast yeah yeah I can see I get his point of view on that but so I if I was to get down
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the mentality how we used to approach it with painting teams is like a lot of the
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board game stuff like silver Tower Blackstone Fortress it's black rims because it's more of a gaming piece yeah
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a centerpiece uh the black ribbon kind of gives it more of a centerpiece Color Vibe um whereas when you do like the steel
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Legion draft it works for most colors that are on top hey it's not as Jarred when it comes to
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um putting them on boards and these if the graphic design is to tweak them if they need to Brad is easy to tweak in
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posts and then gray is or whatever all black and so you can make brown go gray you can make brown go white if you're in an
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inter tooth but the other way around it's a bit difficult apparently this is what the graphic designers told oh right so this would be what in Army shots yeah
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yeah seriously well if it was on a slow base you've got like they could digitally change it oh okay tighten a
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bit yeah um but initially just looked cool anyway but yeah the black bass makes it feel
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more like a centerpiece yeah it'll do a nice and just for me just I just think it'll make it just makes it feel like it
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it makes the the ground on the top of it just yeah pop a little bit more there's a game I always I know you can still buy
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it but it's expensive and I just think I've got enough to do but I do lament not buying Blackstone for you see the
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thing for me and I know there's been a question actually it might would be worth touching on it about the city stuff as well
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um so I really like that simple because I really like silver Tower and silver Tower came out it's cool um and this is
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like the Mantra really for for our Channel as well I was like I remember when that came out people struggled to get that set painted and then I found a
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really quick way of doing it there was this whole plan that we're gonna do Outsource um a load of models to China
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to get more paint up for every store all right as a country and so me and another guy were like cool like really super
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quick ways of like painting so someone in China could just follow our list of things yeah do all that so they did like
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500 sets um to go to all the stores and stuff it was
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it was an idea about so we're thinking about Outsourcing Army painting yeah yeah but really basic piano level was
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saying if you I mean I get six scale figures and they have airbrushed and dry brush like helmets and guns yeah and I
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get them so I'm telling it I could probably do a better job than that yeah yes because I'm an experienced playing it's like a production line yeah yeah
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absolutely so it was that kind of mentality it was like minimal colors um mainly dry brushing washes so it
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would then it occurred to me that most of the people that brought silver Tower hadn't got their sets painted months
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after they bought it yeah which is like our thought process for for the stuff we got the cello which is so I needed
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another weekend fine yeah no it's weird I mean it's not for everyone not everyone wants to spend like an hour painting a squad or a unit you know I I
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do before they get on the table something like that colors after it but yeah I really like silver Tower it's a shame they never had any upgrades so for
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it but you got um Blackstone fortunes my biggest bug there with Blackstone Fortress they did a bunch of cool upgrades or expansions
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and there was the um what's the amble the traded a yeah the humble there was escalation which
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had like loads of extra cool characters in it and that's where you got the cultures the abyss which came that separate Adventure
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um I never do this it was only short runs yeah why because you got the the
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the ones that are in the Bloods of now you got the ogren and the enforcer yeah yeah it was chaos commission I mean cool
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but that's like what three years now you'd have to wait for that well what were you think it's that way sudden you
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you think they mustn't be they recouping them on young are like them um
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then calls us to say they eventually solved the cultures of the Abyss separately yeah and then but they're now
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enough but they they're still not on the Shelf as the standard the culture study they'll say the extended quotas is the
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same style they're just more I wouldn't say multiply they fit this yeah but yeah I think it's still by the quarter to the
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abyss so you still get the same sort of options all right okay I mean I've got because I've did a blood pack told me I
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was going to do a whole killing it wasn't running that ball of these things to that other cultists and stuff to do it what will happen now to the um the
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tree to guard that way because you could buy I think they did them very briefly on the road as well for the tree to God
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now that the blood doesn't exist you're going they did they've got their life well they did the sprue because it comes
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as one spread because you get um not just the traitor guard on it you get to be smart and you get Ace care Space
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Marine you get to the left all right so they can't really sat on its own no no not unless they're supposed to run I
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must have confused must be thinking about
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what annoyed me is um these cool sets come out and it was a communication that I didn't
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realize they weren't limited so I never got them straight away because I was still building through my
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um Blackstone Fortress set and then I was like cool I've got my cultist and I was paying the set for a guy at work as well because he just wanted to set doing
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so I was hoping about with his cultists and then I couldn't get the Escalade from oh it'll be nice to have known that a
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lot within the blooming Department yeah this is Blackstone looked really cool very mixed
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reports about the actual game itself but it looked it looked really good and there was things in there I would have wanted but I also think
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even though it was 40K X because there was things in there I thought it was above that it had to probably other than
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actually being in a box of playing black silver Fortress I've never done anything else with it it's one of those kind of
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like when you've got your mates around kind of getting isn't it I mean even like it reminds me back in the day when we used to like hero quest in space or
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just to fly about the family is that kind of like level of gay men but clear City yeah I've got Cow City
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yeah well quickly you've got spacehog haven't you unpainted yes yeah we're gonna have to do a video yeah yeah
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because I've got to speak yeah yeah got all this nice because that's a very salt
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actor you can buy I was looking at buying the uh Terminators on me blood Angel too amazing silly money today very
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very expensive or buying a boxed version of the game I think they go for about 500 quid really yeah I apologize for my
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cold by the way I have what I'm covering from them when I met the determinators inside didn't it
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all right it's awesome uh oh sorry because I painted I bought that when I was in my Vlog because like I had 12
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years off and then as always once The copier space well yeah and I got it and started painting the space where indeed
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technically the same latest and thinking I have realized I can't remember how to paint it yeah these are the first the
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best guys to to try and relay not maybe I thought just a box of the standard Space Marines and try and figure that
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out again but yeah and you can buy bio strip from elements I still remember that place Gene Steve
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was in that box Wells glotting stuff caught in my wife coughing courting you like me uh 1400s
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oh no those than 15 states um yeah we used to like walk through
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Derby season to all the total of the way back from college and stuff and I remember the works having like stacks of the old classic spaces
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and obviously at the time it was like a part-time job at quick save stacking show so I didn't really afford it at the
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time this is like is it the 2014 version that's really expensive like today in Edition Spring Hill yeah sorry uh care
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City I mean City yeah that was an interesting I mean we've had a few people saying it'll be really nice to talk about it
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um so to me and at the time I think it was lockdown it was during lockdown the curse city was
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announced uh we on what my life were uh or give it a set to get painted and the
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idea was I was going to you know I did some live stream gaming yeah I'm gonna look up doing some live stream game in
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awesome way of doing it in the office and that was sort of socially distant somehow but what we did was we got sets
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um uh me and Nick would do like some videos as well I painted them like a couple of characters and a couple of bits here and there so a lot of effort
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was put into cursive I think it was two weeks worth of content painting content and we started painting the sets
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um to play the games with and then we found out no more available the house and that was a and that was a
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Communication business where so many people didn't know it was yeah that's so badly humble I have never seen it I've
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never seen something that then I'm gonna say it badly handled in my life in my career at Workshop it was not all
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communicated it no one understood the messaging even the people doing the marketing basically were just like what
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is going on so what you're having to do is like I mean not not me I mean we were just like this is the awkward thing if anyone
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asks questions on life don't address it I'm like that's really weird yeah it was very
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much because I started working at Workshop um just kind of just after
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kind of cursity stuff and when I was applying to the job and doing a bit of research everyone was like where is Cassidy what the hell's going on there
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and it did just seem that they like they were just like no I never existed yeah like they kind of went Scottish stuff
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not even the elephants of the Brew but was the mammoth in the root of that wasn't it I think the worst thing we did
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was not address I don't know sometimes when you address the situation it makes it worse but yes Workshop made some
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interesting choices when the devotion thing but they did the apology video which was quite funny with James Workshop but I think so you needed
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something like that because I wasn't aware and I had a set then I wanted to paint the stuff I was really eager to
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paint the stuff up some people got older the sets were putting up on Instagram I wanted to paint the film up but then I
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felt so guilty that so many people could get this set yeah so I was like well I'm looking to pick this out because that's not fair I've got to say I hope it's
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Gathering dust now I'm obviously uh yeah able to do it because it's been re-released but it just felt like
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someone had Mis sort of judged the numbers yeah and then went oh no we
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called the foot you know whether you've got this amount printed it's going to take age to get it because it does take a long time with the whole previous yeah
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the shippings yeah I suppose to just put it down up and go yeah sorry it's on its way me too yeah yeah it was just so
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weirdly handled ridiculous because I remember it I remember that the stink leak was dark
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it came out on the Monday that all shops reopened after the surfer lockdown which
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was like April 20 something could be another 26 or something because I I'd gone to get my last one of new supplies
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from a barber shop before I opened on the Tuesday and I have to basically drive past Games Workshop to do it and I
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went in and a friend of mine works in the shop um foreign
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thing that I went oh what honey we went over and stood near a cabinet protected through by the
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Avenue and he went it's done
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oh wait what you mean it's done anyway it's gone that's it no my brain must go no this doesn't
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confuse I remember this was going to be fantasy Blackstone Fortress three years and loads of expansions yeah no I'm not
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just full between no you went this is saying and I want more of these and I thought you went nothing this is
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it it's gone and it's gone and I was like no that's happening and he was like yeah I know honestly this is and there's
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loads of different things you saw about the problem was like because of brexit we had like a Union Jack on the box but then things and it
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would actually printed in China and then you can't have you can't have you need Jack on your box if you say it
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everything's made here but then actually run things princess and shine yeah only the prince will stop things being
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printed with slope going back in China yeah so my shipping got yeah all over
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the place doesn't it and um if you just think and these are the biggest the biggest problem now is the fact they've
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now done the expansion the two expansions they've run out of stock they're now doing them on other than
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made to order they do a mate to all that but the bloody we talked about this off air didn't be a while ago the fact that
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they need so many bloody characters and they don't come in the boxer here says then why that happened I know why
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exactly oh oh so they did have characters in it originally yeah all the
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expansions like escalation like the dreaded animal and because it got turned yeah
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um things like radical the beasts a lot of those collectors sort of vampires yeah
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and there was benedotta where I forget I had surname Oliver something and they
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were all in the expansion sets they were the expansion characters because they got Candice like but we've made all these models and you can appreciate like
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we've got all this this plastic it's good stuff we should probably use it obviously Soul blood came but oh yeah
28:41
because initially you'd have cursed City and have these expansions come out then saw black will come out so they'll like with people like oh they're gonna mean
28:47
that oh yeah yeah I'd use those new book it ended up being like well we've got these models and model they use and stick them in the old book so that's why
28:53
they don't know I mean I don't understand why they couldn't have had those well they move all the way games workshopper Pebble though pedal there
29:00
their ass out of the situation with the within with the new boxes they've gone as you progress by the character
29:08
instead of going go buy all of them it needs and they'll realize that your expansion costs more money than the
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actual game did in the first place it's the expansion so just for the books am I right I'm thinking it's around 80 quid I
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don't remember something I'm gonna I'm gonna look at that now yeah oh he's gonna go and look what's up
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but I also I thought it was mishandled oh yeah it was but the way they're trying to do it is it's to go we realize
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that this expansion will cost you a fortune what we suggest is only by the character as you get for that and you go
29:39
who plays a game like that and don't do it you read the list of what you need and you don't buy all them I mean it's
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like if you played through hero Quest you you would it would be wrong to look ahead and see what happens but then you
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wouldn't know until you've done that scenario right yeah so yeah it's a tricky one you can imagine like in the game you're playing with the immature
29:56
that goes and you open the door and there he was rather Gasco if everyone just said yes the Beast no it was that
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the cards right against the basis yeah possibly streams there just go if
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you all just sit there while I go out and buy him yeah and then quickly Prime him down the stairs and then drive brush
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him and bring him up and go there you go there yeah yeah there's such nice models though so War Hunter City expansion
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70 pounds on eBay so yeah probably already seven seconds
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well the first one you can play on its own the first expansion but the
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second expansion you need the first one to play that oh really I'd like to play the main game won't be
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cold but the weather called Nemesis uh yes I think so yeah one of them you can play on its own what Nemesis you need to
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have got the first expansion to play that yeah which is and then like say and then all of the figures required for it
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it's good job so they're lovely figures though am I right in thinking sorry so they released yep
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incredibly popular I sold out they pretended it didn't exist they they put
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the Miniatures that were set for the expansions into another game yeah yeah and then going to be made into me and
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then maybe so then and then they re-release curse City I'm assuming
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that was popular enough that they thought hey we've already had all of the expansions all the cons still yeah yeah but the game the the Miniatures are
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already there so we'll just release the expansion yeah which are just paper and then the costs are fortune and it costs
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a fortune yeah yeah so that's another thing that sometimes I
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I can be a bit um and grumpy about a language
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it's slightly vexed so if you take Perez periplastics right I wish I had a box on
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me you have on average about somewhere between 30 to 42 plastic figures yeah
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for about 18 to 20 films yeah you can make it you can make two battalions if
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it was like historical napoleonics you can make two battalions better more like medieval game system you play if I make
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three regiments out of like English um all the Roses stuff you can do some melatons to surviven so you can get a
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decent about the stuff um for 20 quid and if you look at the
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sprue it's there's nearly like three chunky sprues so much plastical that's pretty condensed you compare it to
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Workshop stuff and it's like twice the cost for a
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roughly the same amount of plastic yeah I'd argue with me that we're more better sculpted than more but this this is
32:41
where Molly where I get a bit grumpy is like I am as an only pain to most of the people that do the hobby war game yeah
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yeah I would say it's a small percentage not like vastly small but it's it's a probably
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let's say a quarter yeah they're really into high-end paint jobs and education painted wood
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the sculptures are making these models that are pieces of Art and forgetting
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then it's a tabletop war game yeah yeah and as an object we used to it and we usually flip off details when we were
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doing the armies because there's so much detail models we'd cut them off because just like this is unnecessary detail clip this yeah in the server detail clip
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um that it's become now that when you I'm caded less so but a lot of the stuff
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you get it's just too detailed to paint always yeah and this Bob arches biggest unit I love the Bliss Bob Archer look
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they are the worst Rank and file you get to paint it they just Sigma there's so much detailing to the point I remember
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having a conversation with one of being sculpting managers because they're asking about feedback how we can make things a little bit more streamlined you
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know what we got the feedback I was like yeah Bliss Bob arches don't make a rank and file because there's one model where you have to glue his finger and his
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thumb separately to the model that that got lost so out of my squad of 10 I can
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only you know make nine why is that finger and thumb separate went all the original and I get undercuts and I get
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like all these sort of like how it fits of the mold but you've done it with nine others why is this one different or
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because his finger is done slightly more to this kind of angle and looks like he's just let go of the boat don't don't give a damn yeah yeah it's it's a unit
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that's used in the game for most people the tokens right for me they're units and yeah I have a narrative because that
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one plays differently mine is the story driven narrative yeah yeah but the Bliss Barb arches are the prime example of
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like when school to start treating him like oh they're not getting why this is I've said this before is that I love
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them to I love them to death if they are my Army but Christopher plague Marines need that watch oh yeah there's just
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plague honestly I have been I have spent I'm not the quickest playing to as it is
34:47
but I've spent longer pain and some Rank and file played Marines and I have Space Marine characters yeah yeah honey gold I
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don't bother with characters I get it yeah characters they're in charge you can play plague Marie a stanza
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plague Marine I literally am convinced even though they are a small piece of anonymous plastic that they literally
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grow tentacles versus you'll be getting you again more painted then you go what tentacle what coming
35:13
out the back of his ankle really right how do you know you go you know it was you know Bob Lee Smith who you know the the show will
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be or Pro you know if you you'll probably talk right now by the time last week technically yeah
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hit live on it in a second Bob oh you know spoilers for Bob shout said that he
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felt that people who were playing with his figures should have something interesting to look at it from the back
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of it yeah to some degree I agree with that but I think the deaf I think death guards take that to the to the end the
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degree you go yeah I don't need 12 magups individually scorpions
35:51
there's no requirement there's no Hammer power too much bizarre they got with that have you seen the one with
35:58
have you seen the bomb with the enormous Bell above his head yeah yeah
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um I'll clip that off yeah
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and then inside another one you have these like I talked exhaust systems on their back on their power package
36:16
some Maniac on the on the the sculpting team we sculpting them I'm not joking
36:24
with Market inside either the bell in the Bell is it like being mellow
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exhausts the the there is Chico can't even what's he gonna get because it's too powered so
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it'll be like that and sandwich it together but this is because you can does it means a prime example of that is the
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gyrocopter um I remember seeing like heavy metal painting in the gyrocopter in sub-assemblies they'll do all the dashboard at the front yeah and then I
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was like like a couple today I think two bombers to do or two gyrocops to the bomber to do for the Army when we're
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doing it and I just tested till that I'm not available
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because the dwarflight takes up all the space yeah and then you hit you have his head and like a bit of his arm sticking
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out and then this front bit which is what we've got the dials is like one not facing upwards but facing downwards and
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his legs are color covered it and it's just like even what what no it's gonna see that only it's like
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theater and having the sun scooped on the inside of his breastplate now further Hills like but I see this every
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time I go just no one else can but it gives you that sense of like you know like he's he's there he's it feels real
37:34
yeah to know it doesn't add anything to the model the one of them I tried or you know when you try to cook corners
37:41
Isaac for his Marine Army that I paid for him he's a big believer and rightly
37:46
so that everyone wears a helmet okay great well if you've got it if you don't
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necessarily said yeah but I mean you know for being for Space Marine if you've got a helmet why wouldn't you
37:58
wear it sort of thing yeah and I've said some look you know for certain guys it just makes it easier for sometimes when he's trying to put a squad together if
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the you had a glance the the guy you know hasn't got a helmet on the military sergeant and I said and then I'm trying
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to explain and it brings a bit of color to your army if there's the odd face here and there you know and he begrudgingly source of agreed with me
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and that I bought him back flying thunderstorm brother tinnitus Brothers
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the death Marie whatever what is that called it's a storm Stonehouse speeder
38:30
someone like that stop speeder whatever it's called wolf it's got the two pilots in it yeah
38:36
and there is a company called uh I don't know I've seen as a company called pop goes the monkey I've heard it yeah
38:41
they're a 3D company and they they do like add-ons for stuff okay and though and behold didn't they do a canopy for
38:48
that uh I said to crack off this will def that will really appeal to Isaac's idea of armament and I went because I
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looked at it and it just had loads of screens and buttons on the dash and I went foreign
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canopy for that I said you just got like slits in it and I'll make him look you know
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and then he went no I think it'd look really good if the Marines could you could see the Marines looking like where they'll fly dogs like that I feel like
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just terrified that's painted for it yeah this is the bit where you give him the brush and the pot and say do it yourself
39:21
we've tried them you want them do it yeah yourself I tried this it didn't go
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away what other problem being is um if you put a button or a screen on something I will paint the [ __ ] thing
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yeah yeah if you don't I can't ignore it that's what I was trying to desperately sort of try to manipulate my child and
39:40
to go another an armored canopy would look really good here once and go so that's why the only painting TVC like
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we've done a vote on taking the OSL which is just painted green and the driver should light agree so it was like it's like nine-time lights yes yeah so
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it was um yeah that that botan um those Sagittarius what's that we'll do it that
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you do um was yeah you were like cool I'm just gonna dry brush it greens so it's like LED some like glow yeah and then you put
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the canopy on and see if you think of it barely see them anyway yeah yeah and I I looked at the after that I looked at the
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heavy metal um pictures on on uh workshop and
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they to show the driver they take the canopy off and they're like look at this driver and look at these screens and
40:21
then it's like look at the whole tank and now you can't see it wasn't until you highlighted that because I was like
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oh you know it's nice to paint the crew it's not like to do so yeah because I I just I made up I made a beaver in the
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video because there's a bit at the top where there's like one of those little Android robotics behind guys and I thought it was like a half canopy like a
40:38
like a windshield because I wasn't paying attention so I painted him all up and then it wasn't until after I looked
40:43
at the actual kind of oh no I should do it if I'm doing it that way I should do all that green so that I mentioned the
40:49
video that yeah I screwed up and I'm just going to repaint that black right yeah you know I don't like it myself but hats off to anybody that just painted
40:56
canopies oh yeah no no no I mean I've seen people ever do uh now I'm on this show look it gives you that kind of
41:02
screen tone yeah and some people I always remember the because like the real first not probably someone of Paul
41:08
longer no it wasn't something I I apologize but for me the first real glass canopy that ever sticks in my head
41:14
was the eldorf album yeah I guess so I'm trying to think back past that yeah I think what is this like
41:21
I smoldering plastic yeah yeah and then the problem being is it's not done it's just so it's more than clear plastic it
41:27
means then you then have to paint the support straw yes yeah I'm not get the
41:32
one though around yeah ah now there's a really good uh video about like coming soon to sleep yes I mean it might it
41:39
might be out already but also might not be I'm not gonna oh yeah then the other
41:44
problem being is if you just get a double super glue wrong oh oh it failed yourself that's why it's pvai
41:51
yeah but the amount on I'm I'm sure Chris has
41:57
seen even fall ball before his ass sorry just give you a secret neighborhood yes
42:03
you could show me I'm like yeah you know what happened yeah but you
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must have seen it probably more than me the amount of people are just in the day just used to paint dumb Eldar kind of pieces yeah yeah let's go oh we just
42:16
painting the glass yeah and then what would that they're quite a cool part the hail the head for the pilot was quite
42:21
cool so they then end up seeing that in someone's ranking fire a lot because
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yeah yeah and go back to other units and stuff for that um sorry slightly segued
42:32
a bit but no could you sleep um where it was the Empire yeah right those
42:38
are weird things so someone let's go up to the Empire uh State troops and there was you could have built him as
42:43
swordsman how would they experiment really they had every detail possible on
42:48
them those are like skulls playing cards egg timers parchment it's just it was
42:53
molded on you couldn't get rid of it oh right the easier rank of fire right Paul and it was no need for that but it's
42:58
just it was just over the top it was a song so I used to this as well but I used to spray things back dry brush them all brown and then just pick out details
43:05
and then if I couldn't be both to take the skull it just looked like a dirty old maybe bit of pouch or something but
43:10
then on the flip side my favorite kit was the greatswords you could add stuff so it was quite a it was a brass play
43:17
pantaloons I was holding the great sword yeah yeah that was a kick because you'd only have like one or two units is where
43:22
you'd put all the extra detail but that what I did like with like the Canadians and these guys is you could add things
43:28
it wasn't molded on so if you wanted to add a Scabbard we ought to add like pouches and candies and grenades the
43:35
option was there I I don't like it when it's all on there you don't get a choice and never paint it so yeah but I'd
43:42
rather be in pouches on I'd have all that webbing I just wanted to have like his fatigues and his armor it's it's that that's the thing that that bothers
43:49
me is when the choice is removed when you're so used to like paying the stuff faster and all these extra things
43:55
slow down your baiting oh it's a weird form it's a weird one for me with cultures because you know what I said
44:00
how did they said something you know bro it's like you know because it my real world understand them of the fact of how
44:06
and you you know you've You've Won you you've been on the military side of things well and you know your web and is
44:12
you you live out of it and you know how many rounds and you know you have to have this awesome with Marines after
44:18
obviously don't you wear the idea is you don't see them but the conservators and
44:24
um Servo skulls and all kinds of things just whizzle around the battlefield literally hand them more ammo because they're not carrying any oh is it like
44:31
the um the guys in uh The Matrix running out with wheelbarrows and ammo to the uh
44:37
yeah basically that's what you're meant to do because they they touched on it in um they touched on it in the sisters of
44:45
battleboxes that they started doing yeah characters Dragon they yeah but they're Sheriff system yeah carrying stuff
44:50
around on the idea but you know but then Space Marines never have enough gear I don't have any cultures that are big
44:56
enough for a bloody magazine and you have to do that thing where you go look you've got to separate reality well want
45:02
it don't lies is when people put pouches more pouches on Marines but in a way that makes no sense
45:09
yeah my favorite when I say favorite I really hate which remember the old three
45:15
pouch that used to come with the mark eight yes yeah yeah the three pouches that you put around there their hip yeah
45:20
and then people used to put them around the pauldron okay around the shoulder pad okay and I just used to look at them
45:26
and go that looks cool how's he getting it yeah yeah trying to go do some favor
45:31
brother could you just no not the second one the third one it's just gone yeah it's got my eyeliner sticking out I want
45:37
to smoke yeah and there's nothing of going you know it's like what people you know people used to do them with them
45:42
they would try and make their k teams look really cool and they would put the um would put the the bayonets like up
45:49
here oh yeah yeah and they're going I mean drawer in there yeah yeah not take
45:54
your ear you know turn it upside down you know what I mean it's tough It's like the real world with me and the real
46:01
world game is like fall down the rabbit hole because with the Cadence set you could add those pouches if like this is
46:07
where my head if I'm doing a huge on me I'd want to spend hours available all these extra details whereas if I do the
46:12
kill team and you got the reactions on the kit then you could go a bit man yeah but I'd still if I was like doing some
46:18
pouches I would make sure that the one with the knife missing he's got the way yeah so little things like that I don't
46:25
care about but um Markley ball pistol holster that couldn't fit the bolt yeah and for the bolts with lists of the magazine
46:31
I've got to draw this pistol quickly and put a magazine on it and with like the
46:37
Canadians we used to build of those in like um the blooded and the death core
46:42
Creek you could tell that it's a kill team yeah I love it they they they they
46:47
are got lots of cool details on it and I'm I'm happy with that even like the Deathcore Queen you can add a lot of the
46:52
stuff we used to make an army album if you want to because they're separate and to these two essentially only they've
46:58
got pouches and the rucksack attached but they've got me there's Neil and there's neon Deathcore isn't he in that
47:03
there is a deal and go here at least yeah at least warnings they may be two so you go there's your there's your weapons teams absolutely but you can add
47:11
most of the time you can add the stuff which is why I like that but it's when you don't get the choice of yourself the bouquetings have got this whole like
47:17
almost like a chess week thing going on as well couches yeah so they've got straps yeah out there they're um armor
47:23
they're flat their Fleck arm and then yeah shoulder pads they've gone down the death core Creek version where they've got an extra little bit underneath oh
47:28
yeah yeah which is quite nice because if you you could probably mix those arms a bit as yeah actually quote I'm going to be playing around doing that but you
47:36
have straps with some good but like some of the characters like if it's the command Squad have like extra webinar
47:41
across the front extra pouches so they've got like a um a best rig
47:46
system going on yeah what's funny is that because telling me things that would be cool if every one of them had
47:52
it and then they'd think yeah I wonder you're like seven in a pain in the mid thinking Jesus I hate these yes but it's like reavers they have to say which is
47:58
that what you're probably a little uh well I on on Jeff's um you know hard stance on way way
48:05
pouches and your knives are um because I'm I'm probably in the opposite Camp of just like it's all
48:11
pretend anyway does it look cool yeah I think but rule of call for me is is kind
48:17
of above everything else I remember watching a p the wargamer video and um yeah he's he's kick bashed some hero
48:23
videos um yeah he's kick bash some Zella intercessor and medicareless Adept
48:30
um and he's got um yeah like Raptors I think on it they're Raptors yeah and yeah they've
48:35
got they're awesome and and they're awesome uh but I was just looking at this nice 360 and uh one
48:43
the sniper that's got pouches he's got grenades on his polish and haven't he got to get their option oh
48:49
no so we'll love it we love you Bob yeah we
48:57
love you and you are you sculpt them and you're converting and your painting is amazing well you're still wrong
49:04
wait till you get about the show we'll I'll when when when Pete little spoilers
49:10
hopefully covered on early next year we'll have that up I'll just go back then Pete explain yourself yeah we've
49:16
seen I I look at that because I think he talks about hell yeah Marines don't have enough patches on yes
49:23
um but you're limited where you can put yeah yeah so I think you know like a kill team
49:29
operating on their ass Marines are going grenades on chests as well yeah you
49:34
wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't do it in the real world you know it looks great job one of the best designs I've seen for this this stuff right I mean it
49:41
was I well it wasn't until Waypoint foreign forces and because we did this thing
49:47
called claw and Order where I used do you see the courts who use the permanent forces yeah to get the neighbors Greg very good what I didn't realize until he
49:55
observed it is on their backs is equipment that the people behind use that so they have like extra ammo extra
50:01
good AIDS so when you're lying buried into like NECA well you know that under hives and stuff like that so it needs a grenade he takes the grenade off the guy
50:08
in the wood yeah um like swatted because of that SAS counter the SAS console Revolution
50:14
Warfare do that they have um they have whether they still do now or don't know but they used to have a
50:21
strap system so the the guy would reload his MP5 hackerel and [ __ ] offers offers
50:26
me to back now this what they would feed off his mind yeah that's really cool yeah
50:31
that's what mistake or the other one as well was pistol um pistols were um strapped on pistol magazines were
50:37
strapped on the inside of your wrist because no matter how dark a room is a human being can always find one hand
50:43
with the other yes so you just put your hands to your piston yeah slide down like you might be yeah that's interesting and so you stop them so if
50:50
Pete if you listen to this you need to kick bash green stuff sleeves
50:56
onto your Raptors yeah and sort your life outside
51:03
well I think these guys the wicked thing now they are awesome when he done these I was blowing away I hope I'll see what
51:09
they were so narratively they all stand in a straight line um and they reload off of each other's
51:15
shoulders you know um so here's a question could
51:20
you but Raptors up I only have a new Raptors as green but they know um because that's how forgot did them yeah
51:26
yeah but originally they were doing yellow really remember why which is the
51:31
right one who were the um that are second found enough oh they're the second father of um Raven God ravength
51:37
it makes sense because it's a Buddhist I managed to get um because GW don't produce any Raptor decals do they no but
51:45
I managed to get some of the last ones from um oh like Mighty brush obviously
51:51
but you stopped too well yeah he stopped selling them because he was asked where he didn't say why but he was like you
51:56
can probably guess why he's so suddenly like a company that might think that you know hey there's
52:03
the bird they did a set of um transfers uh it was an A4 sheet yeah and uh it was
52:09
when we first started doing the upgrade sets for like firstborn yeah um so you'd
52:14
have like dark angel upgrade sets a really nice little blister pack sets that were coming out the plastic ones so
52:20
you have like Dark Angels do an angel Space Wolves um what else would we have a couple of
52:26
us can't remember off the topic at Ultra rings for sure but they did a range of A4 transfer sheets and the transfer
52:33
sheets were amazing they had like every company Marketplace yeah every Banner for each company or to the
52:41
fact that they even had little transfers for the all specs so you could drop a transfer into your face and text that went on the like all
52:49
other true or GW yeah it was able you know but like you stopped it was like why did you just I think of those are
52:55
amazing Mikey brush does a decal sheet that has the display system to go on the
53:03
front of the binoculars for the Space Marines I mean I've seen transfers to eyes right and at first it wasn't sold
53:09
on it until I saw someone do it and I was like if you don't want to paint noise that's not a bad way of doing yeah that's interesting yeah Mighty brush
53:15
does so amazing Toronto's as does worth pointing out sorry um Mighty brush support faith and
53:21
Damnation and do a discount code to join your group also as well we're talking on decals or um our friends our Dutchman in
53:30
Japan you're Dutchman in Japan yes Ireland he is scumbag Customs
53:37
done some lovely stickers for us has done does some absolutely beautiful and
53:43
tell you what he's just on he does some lovely decals and what he has just done is um he's just done all the tackles for
53:51
all of the hazard strike sections and computer displays for the Goliath trucks
53:57
on the Rock right the rock rides around so you see what you need all the jackals it's just a sheet of just different
54:03
heads-up displays and then you can just cut them to size and put them on all the different yeah sort of like because I never want to have like so many consoles
54:09
and like but I just think I think it's just
54:16
ridiculous this just goes back to the whole thing we were talking about with Bob is about we we've created this history of these
54:24
things but now we won't support it and then we'll tell you off if you turn up on a tournament with with 3D 3D variants
54:30
to say to potentially reading between the lines Mighty Bush got told to stop through and wrap the decals
54:37
so then what Games Workshop with you know some what games workshops on should go or should do is either do jackals
54:43
yourself now if you're not going to do jackals never ever mention the Raptors ever again because what you're
54:49
effectively saying is if you want your arm into look like decals you better learn how to Spain to Bear's head yeah yeah yeah yeah
54:56
that's what I'm saying isn't it going he's allowed to make him we're not making them well you know what here's a
55:03
short story about the Raptors yeah yeah okay routers I do look amazing I love
55:08
that yeah um and precipated in the the glow short story you got like the empress Spears
55:14
decal sheep forever half an hour fell over the big yeah and the same for the token Keepers which is white dwarfs in
55:20
oh God yeah yeah so but like a Sandbox release just a splash release is fine
55:27
let's like fight them other plumbing transfers that now blub and change hands up hundreds
55:33
a lot of money the silver templates uh of course they were um you know that
55:38
Mike that Weekly Magazine Conquest Conquest well they they did it so they could have your own arm you know oh real
55:45
special Army was made just for and then the very last episode the very last issue or I think near the last issue
55:51
came with transfers for this Army yeah and now they're like
55:56
the rabbist had his teeth and on everyone people playing like 20 30 quid for a little deep sheets of decals on
56:02
we've had hedden's teeth and a rocking horse poo today yeah rare things again
56:08
next to the Unicorn we yeah
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I bet you didn't lead that's my brother's hair yeah but the good thing is is that when
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you are better than a bit
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yeah so decals is the same thing for me with Games Workshop keep making them
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yeah yeah or stop making them and if you're going to stop me this concept of and it's I remember it
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Miniatures early days was but I don't know if it's something like one or two people didn't like decals or it was just
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it was the cost of it but making plastic Alternatives so like
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different banners different hence why didn't got lots of space between upgrade sets but then where does that when you go with that because then if you wanted
57:12
like generic looking Imperial guards and or generic looking towel then you need all different sort of shoulder pads to
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support those we kind of did it with uh stormcast where it was like different Storm hosts but then they had like a
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couple of different shoulder pads and shield designs that they went off say after a while because not many people bought them because against the boy but
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they didn't know they're all there or so all the the heresy um the upgrades or they're all made to
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order aren't they I think so um and the ultramarine uh like upgrade
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kits for heresy I think of going on pre-order this week
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um in in like a few days would I be right in thinking that if you bought
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the um the heresy startup box like months and months ago
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and you wanted to have your ultramarine upgrades you'd have to wait on the island to do it yeah yeah yeah no see
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the problem what yeah what people didn't talk about is the bloody costume oh yeah it's if you went right my my whole Army
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is gonna have a detailed shoulder parts and then any of the other sexy little
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bits that makes them whatever chapter they are be it like dead schools if you're playing as yeah and guards and
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the little feathers and all the Clockwork stuff if you do an iron iron hands and yeah well I go if you wanted
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to make the Army as it is it would cost you bloody lily as watching operate Spruce and especially that's the only
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way to get it it's the only way to get your decals is there in there oh right okay so you
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know or if you like if you unless your arm usually like the black Temple to the first Imperial Fists in the um in the
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Box wasn't it yeah and they attract those transfers and don't get me wrong if you play the Black Templars of the
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first of the primaries to get flavored Marines yeah in the Crusade Crusaders Crusade squads ones where you
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get Scouts can't get yeah yeah and then um you have
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to because it wasn't any black Temple no sir yeah I can file them and then um and
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then you saw Brethren and all like you you know they're the first barely speaking of stuff their first primarus
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to to get flavored art and stuff but then they come with you they come attract with decal shoots in there yeah
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and the proper shoulder Parts but you gotta it costs your bloody Fortune if you were trying to yeah I was talking
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about the Paris sets like for 20 quid you get 40 figures and yeah you could argue they're not as well scored I I
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would argue I think but further stale the opposite 28 mil not 35 or 13 mil but
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I do think the cost to go to the point of saying this to bat many times like um when I would go to the shop to buy
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stuff and I go uh 50 discount yeah if you know there's an issue right yeah no you've got a big
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Market I know you've got to make money you're a business but there comes a point when hobbies are expensive so there's this argument of like it's a
1:00:02
hobby people always find whatever Hobbies yes but there comes a point where you're gonna get to the it's gonna
1:00:07
be so expensive this only for the ridge and I was into the hobby as a child and we were my mom and dad went well off my
1:00:15
dad had been made redundantly Modern words as an a nursing assistant for retirement like some old people's house
1:00:20
so we were on benefits and stuff but yes we were lucky to get like a space awk
1:00:26
for Christmas or NECA Monday because mum and dad would work hard to get to get things one of this increasingly becoming
1:00:32
a professional person's hobby isn't it oh yeah yeah I'm and it's weird for me because I I find
1:00:39
myself against my better judgment often defending the price because
1:00:45
even though stupidly because I think you know you know what a box of intercessors 35 quids it's what is so yeah puggler
1:00:53
yeah so like there was ten no five Empire noise to 35 quid and then like
1:01:01
ten thought as a cane for like 20 quid yeah it's the same level of plastic same level of detail yeah why is that one
1:01:08
like 15 well it's not a lot of it meant to be how many you need I don't care
1:01:14
they gave the trade jungle with this thing don't do the going if you're only gonna need a couple of them we'll charge
1:01:20
you through the ass for it or if you need lots of them they won't be as expensive so is it like um
1:01:26
Bible Terminators you get three in the Box three stones but yes yes right 35 quid player Marines you get ten seven so
1:01:36
that balances out with like the tool obviously you've all right steel boards right and if there's less than being bought then you've got to sort of get
1:01:42
that money back somehow really because I know like the Beyblade itself uh that was an expensive mold but they've made
1:01:48
that Bloody women oh yeah Excellence yeah um so yes I get it it's a business you've
1:01:54
got to pay and make sure whatever's profitable but there comes a point when
1:01:59
your staff they're at a 50 discount are like still when sucking through their teeth yeah yeah that that that's that's
1:02:05
an alarm Bell on the red flag I think for me I like I say right there on me a loads of people probably sometimes I've
1:02:12
done the full even playing full price doesn't bother me because well it bothers me it really hits
1:02:18
me but what I'm going to say is is the way I look at it is a Cinema ticket is 11 or 12 quid yeah and you're in there
1:02:26
anywhere between an hour and a half and if you're lucky three hours depends on what it is you're watching
1:02:31
and then that's it and you come out and you go so three trips to the cinema it's
1:02:37
still for me personally a lot less money is a lot less time than me enjoying
1:02:43
painting the box and something would be and then also all of the hours of enjoyment when I actually play 40K near
1:02:50
that thing and then also I know it sounds ridiculous to say when we think about how we're always bombards with new
1:02:56
stuff if I my first other box of Space Marines came in the third edition starter box
1:03:02
what were they eighth I think that was Marquis armor I think realistically even to this day if I
1:03:09
still own them I could field them if I bought them in 1988 there is not many
1:03:14
hobbies yeah where the thing you bought in 1998 Well for now Jeff and yeah yeah
1:03:24
yeah I know what do you mean but even if you either firstborn dropped off the plumber today to think I could have been
1:03:30
still playing yeah Marines in 1998 all the way up to 2022. how many fishing
1:03:35
rods would you have bought or had to have had repaired or real shoulder bought yeah probably they could obvious
1:03:41
for some reason how many how many times do your mountain bike would have been trashed in that
1:03:46
many years I was very much behind it anyway I understood but it I think there are some things that just are too
1:03:52
expensive yeah I think that's the point is like the the enjoyment creativity you
1:03:57
get out of it um the things you look because it is a very tactile fobby and you like I said
1:04:03
you can have a girl for decades yeah the the only you I mean you know we talked about on the wall where people would buy
1:04:08
it all be of um older woman only ever use that and that's fine um you know you could build an army and
1:04:14
then use it till the day you die Jeff that I get it it's a it's a business It's gotta make money but there are
1:04:20
sometimes when there are some other artists just totally expensive like that's that new thing I I really
1:04:26
practiced it and then I had to shop and take a breath and thought no that's what happened that new um the hybrid necromon
1:04:33
the kit they've now released with the the track thing
1:04:38
which folder is it well you know the um well you know they had that one that was on wheels that was carrying cardiac and
1:04:45
cargo yeah well you know they took the bare ass of that kid yeah and there's now a resin add-on to turn it into a
1:04:50
track 90 quid oh wow that's residue it's more
1:04:55
it's a mixture of well it's a mixture of resin on the pre-existing kit okay they blend the other things together you go
1:05:01
90 quid that's just not going to be happening and you know what annoyed me about it was a thought I'm a bit of my brain I was looking around last night
1:05:07
thinking that'd be a great standing for a Goliath yeah Gene Circle and then weirdly when all the games where chop
1:05:13
sites it told me how white it was and it told me how tall it was wouldn't tell me how long it was
1:05:32
is you need to work out like visually so if that's that what with and that's that
1:05:37
Holy then you need to like add that I don't know yourself
1:05:44
just a bit of fun Jeff you know today that's right that's that's
1:05:49
um added into the price you know yeah kitchen you're from the kitchen when I
1:05:55
need you to uh I'll still need to The Copper Fit allegian to fit the carpet for me go well the room is seven and a
1:06:03
half feet high yes um you know and it's this wide well how long is it I don't worry about that you
1:06:08
can figure I already back already does it
1:06:14
hey so you well you were gonna use that model to proxy for blue glio yeah does
1:06:20
it matter how long he is depends are you playing okay be going like that yeah I suppose
1:06:26
yeah and if you get like proper tournament I don't think probably but my body jumps later I took a few Mexican says guys get any mates yeah
1:06:34
it doesn't hugely matter but I like to try and play Within the okay especially
1:06:39
you know you know especially if if it meant I know chance ridiculous but if somebody wouldn't have made a charge on
1:06:45
a Goliath but they can make a charge on this thing because it's bloody enormous oh right you know what I mean okay
1:06:51
better I'll be like would that only matter if it was like right at the board Edge and it was like an inch longer or
1:06:58
something but normally like yeah you just see where it's you measure from like the center of the model or the edge
1:07:05
of the model to the edge of the model so it makes no diff because there was a sigma came out because there was no sort of like bass rules because you can base
1:07:11
them whatever you want to people like oh they're based on the biggest thing still wherever you pick from yeah to wherever
1:07:17
it's gonna go is gonna be in the distance yeah the edge of this thing if this thing's you know twice the length
1:07:22
of a Goliath yeah I'm someone who going to charge you from behind then you wouldn't have made it if it had been
1:07:27
gone you don't make it because of this you know I mean it becomes an easier thing to get into contact with but um
1:07:33
yeah but I just thought what was the point that I put the measurements of the width and the height of it and then upper middle on the bloody thing was it
1:07:39
was really slightly but why bothering the first place are we
1:07:44
not the first person yeah somebody had pouches on the outside
1:07:50
the driver couldn't reach yeah yeah yeah look all those deck of other sets that are coming in the spider was off the
1:07:56
bottom yeah because I mean uh you could proper do Mad Max
1:08:02
yeah someone said have you read the rules rusheries no I I was the one thing
1:08:07
so the sets have come out and stuff and the other guys in the teams were doing stuff
1:08:14
the the board moves doesn't it as far as I saw somebody else other because I was saying to somebody the boards for
1:08:20
necromondo's not massive it's not six by four Like It Is by play whatever so yeah for me generally by
1:08:26
playing like 40K and I don't know if this is true because I've not played but someone said I said but you know if
1:08:32
you've got that big truck it'll be across the ball to him you know they'd like a moose you know what I mean and
1:08:38
someone said to me no you you take the idea that the the boards the boards is moving not the yeah
1:08:45
not the vehicle so the idea that you get the idea that every time it's you it's moved along so something's chasing me oh
1:08:52
so that could be quite interesting I really am really getting quite happy about the idea of getting pull your finger on getting into that for a month
1:08:59
what we should do is it a thing for the year yeah pick it again I've got loads of stuff you know it's hard to do anything is um
1:09:05
everything's getting to be everything is getting a motorbike or an equivalent there of Artie is I really want to do
1:09:12
the delac but I want to see what it is they're riding before a big-eyed snakeland I don't know probably that's
1:09:18
it foreign
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back in the day you have six games to pick from uh each gang had its own little Quirk like the ashes or pink
1:09:48
rocker ladies oh yeah Goliath's on like the Hedge looking
1:09:54
bodybuilders yeah a bit sort of like not as intelligent as some of the other
1:09:59
gangas they they tend to hit things before they ask questions then you have like All Odds which a bit more like your
1:10:04
Grease Monkeys and biking look like traditional sort of bike again yeah brothers or they had some goals on their
1:10:10
heads but found that object yeah yeah and then yeah cold always and when it just does then you had uh Advanced
1:10:17
sausage or high-tech guy so they made lots of the high-tech gear and then you had uh Delux which are like the
1:10:22
Assassins the Sleek Espionage and all that would contribute to necaunder so I
1:10:27
didn't know who you didn't mention I'm the really sad thing is they haven't brought back the spiers oh no I was
1:10:33
going to get to those yeah I just talked about the first six games yeah foreign
1:10:49
Society in different ways like the ashes make toxins and like good guns for the
1:10:54
the military forces though like um and like everything I can't remember
1:10:59
they bought our series of books for each of them like a house and chips the house of blades this is quite a narrative
1:11:05
driven absolutely yeah so if I was like is it a narrative driven skirt so it's yes it's a scary game where you watch
1:11:12
your gang grow you get attached to members of your gang and then you watch them horribly Dart a mission no oh I
1:11:19
would really know because I'd name all oh yeah that's the points you give them names you give them backstories okay mold them and even to the point like
1:11:27
you've Advanced so much you go because you can have like different weapon cards yeah like you know I'm gonna go for this
1:11:33
weapon option today or this weapon option that a lot of people build different versions yeah model all that
1:11:38
different if they can magnetize and different weapons they can stick on yeah so um see I used to get quite attached to
1:11:44
some of mine I had like a they it was I can't I recorded Now tricks this one
1:11:49
like that it's just traditional one I've tried to make a new one using the new plastic spot like there's a plug pink hair Shadow Alaskan she was like my
1:11:56
sniper I used to foreign building and then just sit there and
1:12:02
just snipe away at people and she got luckily hit one day by stump pistol silk
1:12:08
pistols being like the worst like weapon of air and because she was so close to the edge she fell and then she got taken
1:12:14
out of action because he probably get like take it out and then at the end of the game you roll on injuries to see
1:12:20
what happened to your people they might have been captured they might have broken a leg but I've had a recovery well they might have died
1:12:27
Trixie Bell from a greater hide and died oh never mind actually from boy roster
1:12:32
so you get so attached to some of your characters that the chanting might die if they lose an eye in your model eye patches on them or like giving away
1:12:38
digital cool so that that's like the six Mabel that sounds really fun then
1:12:43
originally there was like spiers which was like the Nobles because they're both like necabunda in the old days it was
1:12:50
one Hive that was focused on hive promise and you have like the six gangs
1:12:55
houses that were like the workers this then you have the underhive where they used to Duke it out and like deal with
1:13:00
garages and stuff yeah the noble hails is those six layers and yeah but the ruler the Lord
1:13:06
um and it was that was as much information really as you had like a paragraph on each of the gangs and the spiers were from the noble houses
1:13:13
they've had alien Tech they had alien tech for races in the game but had before the game they'd invented them
1:13:19
beat they had stuff for basically for like the tower yeah because the air also they were Tower yeah racist even
1:13:24
existence oh why not cool yeah I didn't further down you know like you're Outcast seed of like you redemptionists
1:13:29
you'd have like your rat skin Scouts and yeah yeah you're um what are they called schemas
1:13:35
um which were like just mutated people because the sub was like all the crap flows down the spire and sells at the
1:13:42
bottom yeah and if you're a bottom feeder and you're gonna be a bit mutated but with a loose stuff for their
1:13:47
Commander is you get a book for each of the games and then they start exploring it's not just one city high city yeah it
1:13:53
says then they're going out so you've got the ash waves which is between all the hives you get the gene silicon
1:13:58
risings you get chaos uprisings there are you can you could you could literally go to town modern anything if
1:14:04
you remember the Decker and the spiders which is something we're going to do as a paint guide they are a regiment from necromunda they're recruited from
1:14:11
necromunda so a lot of the gangas could potentially get recruited from there
1:14:16
yeah except the lives because they counted as AB humans not acceptable app humans like rattlings with other little
1:14:21
hobby guys yeah and ogarings for some reason their lives aren't accepted so they're not fielded in the armies
1:14:28
weirdly but I've added like an Escher kind of hair so you you'd have necromunda residents joining yeah yeah I
1:14:35
have like a little like fetish or some kind of thing yeah presents what gang they might be from they might not be gang because they might have been the
1:14:40
hivers workers because it's true against up and that could be quite if you made an entire Army of necromona spiders you
1:14:46
have to buy loads of kits and put all the heads up well that's what redwood that's the eight a neck of the A's have known as they're coming the spiders yeah
1:14:52
there's probably like hundreds of arrangements so you can eat what you want really yeah but then you've got enforces came out then you had things
1:14:57
literally two forces were cops or the cops yeah then you had the uh cops
1:15:03
Grinders which are like chaos corny worshipers that um when you die you get turned into
1:15:08
starch cup starch nice and then you fed back into the system oh it's like the uh
1:15:13
I'm sorry I would agree like yeah let's go see any um oh uh the train
1:15:19
um Chris Evans and it should be here yeah yeah yeah and then they um
1:15:24
all the deaf people and yeah cockroaches and stuff and yeah it's like yep eat your food but yeah that sounds like
1:15:30
Michael pretty um like I would name so say if I watch battle report like the warhand Blaster
1:15:35
and you have like the presenters on there now they they they're like this is
1:15:41
Squad Annihilator and all of these serious names and I'm just like
1:15:47
um you sing in a game like that there's unless you're doing Crusade there's not much attachment it's just yeah I like to
1:15:53
give names the backgrounds to all the things but in their Commander even like War cried and certainly more time if it
1:15:58
ever comes back um and I'm sorry
1:16:03
come on come on Forge Wall Express gay I have faith in you you've done it with Equity
1:16:10
you can do it more damage but yes you get you you will get a heavily attached yeah I know because I think I I like I
1:16:18
don't know I don't I don't think I would say gaming necessarily like really seriously I
1:16:23
think I'd be liking it for the fun oh dude right so I just love it what's your amazing so massive Commander
1:16:31
who's done all this stuff about his names blob so they all locked up named after motorbikes so I've got Harley and
1:16:37
Davidson oh man I got Sue and then Zuki oh and they're all power Cup balls
1:16:46
my third favorite so they first came out as the metal sets back in the day I believe so initially I never got behind
1:16:52
the new plastic stuff when it first came out I never touched it yes but I remember the old days much better then I
1:16:58
got the silver Plastics I did a video for uh Mormon TV and start playing the game and I fell in love straight away and I was like why didn't I do this
1:17:04
earlier so I literally went mad and I brought every gang while as the senior I
1:17:09
got still loads of senior to work through and then all those gangs get extra sets so you can be having a bit more peripheral stuff as well
1:17:15
um so I went to town and the intention was to build the main six gangs for or a
1:17:20
couple of Christmases ago and I'll have my dad over me two brothers and pretending my sister she's up for it and do an old family game like we used to
1:17:26
because my dad had Dell actually brother Adventures however I could use what I was around which was all up to go live
1:17:32
so I had um ashes and stuff so I was like plan on doing that so I've got all these loads
1:17:37
of bits at home but my ashes which are my Film Favorites are all like named after I think my leaders called jewel is
1:17:43
called Jules jewels um I'll let you color the hair I'm like that's Sapphire that's rude no that's
1:17:50
that's aberrald [Laughter]
1:18:01
I wonder what I would like what my theme would be on as make it obviously yeah
1:18:06
just like old guitars that I've owned previously or that'll be good my favorite oh that's that's 50 ml that's
1:18:13
100 Mil macro well you know what we could do for the next chat right is I could bring my neck and under sets pull
1:18:18
them in the middle and then you just pick what we're gonna do for the new year yeah because a lot of people got
1:18:23
all the scenery built painted yeah people have asked for gaming content yeah yeah and well I'm off the back room under out there as well yeah I'd like
1:18:29
and and um yeah because if we do anything I mean let's face it it's not gonna be
1:18:40
yeah we could do that with it I don't I I saw that coming I don't know what it is but so in white dwarf you'd have like
1:18:47
across several months like four staff yeah build up an orbit I play games so the first one to be like you've got this
1:18:53
budget you need to buy some units yeah and then play a game yeah with what you've bought painted so by the end of
1:19:00
the month you've painted everything and you've played a couple of games with them yeah and then the next one so you get another budget and then you add to
1:19:06
that um and across like four or five months you you build up this Army you're playing games is this gonna end in a few
1:19:12
years with like us renting out a warehouse well because I've got all of
1:19:17
that never get it never get there well you see this is the thing with nickel Monday you build a gang yeah you a gang
1:19:24
but box standard box set of guys we all have a box done yes sir and then next month we gave them so yeah I don't truly
1:19:30
just one box yeah then his adults and then there's like weird just weirdo specialists what is this is what I was thinking about the adults like ashes you
1:19:37
get like the weird um the wild sisters and like the death Maiden so I'll be like I'm gonna have one of these and one of those to my gang
1:19:42
because you might do some weird like fraudible and stuff a lot of Delux oh yeah they only got the weird photo thing
1:19:48
they've got the weird photo thing and the one that is really who are pushing me towards dalaka is that brand about a new Psycho oh yeah the unspiken must be
1:19:55
with enormous head yeah is it a spy and a psycho if it's what it's called a Spiker ah sure but yeah so what you can
1:20:03
do is you do your main box set to start off with yeah I hope you guys are getting Beyond this because this is what we're gonna do so you get your main box
1:20:09
set we all build up 10 figures each we're getting them oh I'll start a new gang because I've got all six already done so I'm not gonna get it and they
1:20:15
could be we could use it as as bad as if we wanted to like do other stuff okay so we have a Gand each and again with the
1:20:21
next one till we get the extra set so we can have like if you're doing your weird ones or yeah yeah you pick whichever
1:20:26
ones like if you do the end courses you can get your hands on if you do the right [ __ ] you get you can get your hands on by chills and you can get your
1:20:32
hands on dogs uh you can go to box games go to box
1:20:38
games there's all plastic on the tab there okay and then after we've done like a couple
1:20:44
of games using those we could do like add-ons like guns and then we could do like uh ashway stuff so then you start
1:20:50
getting the vehicle then you start getting by Boys laying outside in the actual extra bikes that's your bike oh I want to get some of those this is the
1:20:56
reason to get them oh you got squats as well actually squats there's a squat or Prospectors you've got their robots
1:21:02
already oh I do have the robot I thought the ambles yeah because they work for anybody yeah yeah I've painted one up as
1:21:08
a national Wilderness I've got those got a load of those at home I think I've got everything
1:21:15
um so I'll bring them in and we can just pick and we can make it as a thing for the next show oh sure sure
1:21:22
that I'm also thinking but I also like the roswell's as well yeah but the other thing is if the higher guns this is
1:21:27
where it gets even more fun is like you could hire a bounty hunter took a higher height just convert what you want if you wanted a jeans to the cultists in your
1:21:33
army yeah hide scope half the crane original it's just a weird mutation from living down there and then you can start
1:21:39
introducing into your story that you're asked even firewall off front or just thought you could just turn all your
1:21:45
guys into uh just so I'm so sorry Jeff and I'm just thinking of ways I can just talk to you with modeling
1:21:52
the answer Cutters the bikes they're on flying bases yeah I could put loads of pouches on the outside
1:21:59
and put them on rocks yeah or at least you have one time yeah
1:22:06
I wouldn't trigger it I'm gonna start just not saying enough of it that's never gonna happen
1:22:14
um yeah no those are really cool should we do that as a new year thing yeah yeah I think that's very sensible
1:22:19
yeah cool so you're thinking yeah sorts of stuff between dialects and the
1:22:25
enforced so the other thing as well is I've got a lot of the upgrade sets because not only do you get like the main box set the secondary box ever you
1:22:31
get like a full box full of like extra weapons extra yeah I've seen some
1:22:45
yeah but everything I was looking at their head separately as an easy way to do Talons if you didn't want to sculpt
1:22:51
anything or use masking tape I know they've got like weird Albertson I mean she would be like your new way of doing town let me see what they rise
1:22:58
yeah like big books yeah yeah no three yes yeah please yeah
1:23:03
sorry yes there we go mads the true size the dog the bed off
1:23:09
yeah it'd be great just to do something different Outcast as well so if you want to like
1:23:15
hide skill we can get a bunch of those pain too I tell you you're a lovely model sure that the uh the Water cost
1:23:21
oh yes yeah they look really good oh and this is everything as well Pat depending which uh house you pick there's also the
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noble houses that support certain houses So like um Goliath house Grime supports
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mainly support housing life and that's the military one so you can get like a military advisor oh it's basically such
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such a cruel mom yeah that one which is the origin Riser where he's got the lions like uh I think that's the one
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yeah of the cane yes you know yeah his bionically the reality have you seen
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completely have you seen the video on YouTube that is just Sean Bean as sharp going
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bastards but yeah which I love so winning first is introduced to the chosen men and uh one of them goes which
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it was this White Band is that oh chosen men is that chosen man but I didn't
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chewy here and then later on at Waterloo when two of his mates get killed he's like nachos are they
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lovely right we've been going for like an hour and a half wow there you go I
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have to put a pause on it uh we need to thank someone for sending us well oh yes sir oh yeah dark blade Workshop queen of
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him he picks lots of Star Wars legally stuff stickers ads of Welsh cakes which we're
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gonna delve into in a bit yeah thank you very much Ian for doing that yeah we've appreciate it so where was it dark dark
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blade Workshop yeah let's go and go follow them on Instagram oh you're awesome leader I mean there's a whole
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load of um Warhammer base so I say warmer base so if he's used other stuff that's not um like Workshop based
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whatever but they look Mega is a really cool of dead Alby but yeah you're uh
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um I was rage and stuff it's just so good it really is so you're so phenomenally well pink there's a scene
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he did a diorama which is a load of Stormtroopers like Medics recovering
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guys from the battlefield and also a lot of guys rooting officers like this Mission cool because there's load of like Remnant 3D prints you can get out
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you know if you know your your law after like from Return the Jedi they're called The Remnant and yeah some to town doing
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a really cool diorama by that stuff thank you for the uh Welsh kicks thank you very much you yeah uh thank you to
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