Chatting to Eric's Hobby Workshop

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hi I'm pachy hello I'm Patrick and today we are joined by someone from far field
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across the pond Eric from Eric's hobby Workshop hello Eric how are you welcome to the channel welcome to the painting
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phase thank you I'm happy to be here good I'm glad yeah I bet you jet led a little
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bit you flew in yesterday is that right uh yeah yesterday uh um we arrived in
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the morning after an overnight flight so uh yeah feeling the lag a little bit I I
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might have rolled out of bed like 15 minutes before I was supposed to meet you but keep getting your coffee made it here filling it in intravenously get
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your coffee it's like rock and roll style come to Nottingham roll out of bed guest on the painting
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face no big deal it's the way it's the way um so for our viewers we it's I
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think we started doing that a bit because we just go straight in and talk waffle and go on to subjects of Hobby
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and stuff can you tell our viewers a little bit about yourself who is Eric what is Eric's hobby Workshop sure so uh
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the hobby Workshop is where I do uh my hobbying but I was thinking about this yesterday I guess you know people would
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describe me as Eric from Eric's hobby Workshop but it would be neater if they just called me the hobby Workshop if
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they just said oh it's Eric's hobby Workshop you know cuz then you don't have to double up on the Eric um and
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really the The Hobby workshop's in in here and in here oh nice very good very
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good I like that it goes everywhere no matter where you are it's always there yeah uh no but I I um I'm a hobbyist I
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make uh miniature painting videos and terrain videos and uh I guess video
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essay type things sometimes just uh videos I think could be cool you know um that pertain to my interests and I try
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not to put too uh too narrow of a definition on it you know so uh so I can leave myself freedom for a left turn if
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I want to yeah yeah um yeah I think you're doing yourself a disservice you make some amazing touring oh than you do
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awesome hobby builds terrain builds um your um Legion videos was it a
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two-parter every Legion yeah yeah yeah that did well yeah yeah yeah people people like
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Space Marines they do yeah um yeah I mean I uh I try to make things that are
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um entertaining and accessible you know kind of balance those things um uh but
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then sometimes I like to do things that are really big and crazy too you know sort of some stuff that's a little bit I
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guess aspirational where people can say oh I don't have the room or the time for that but I'm glad somebody's doing it and then some things that are like oh I
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can do that that's so you know $5 worth of materials and takes an evening so you
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know both those things I think are important I do yeah I've always found that quite interesting because I've always gone for the mindset of like I'm
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going to help people along the hobby journey and show them things that are achievable or whatever but actually I think it is quite nice to show those big
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things that they might never do themselves so the kind of the box is ticked so you can just watch it right
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exactly see it get done which is always a nice little yeah cuz it's funny like I get all kinds of people in the comments
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saying some people saying um you know you've inspired me to try something for the first time which is really nice and
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then there's other people saying you know I don't even do Warhammer I don't I don't know how I stumbled on this video but this is cool you know I just enjoy
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watching this so I try to I mean I think half of the battle making videos is
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trying to understand who might be watching it and then um you know making it as good as possible so yeah I was
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talking to lacky from Zoro the other week and he was saying that he legend legend absolutely um he did some ble
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reports and they just didn't do very well um and it was all because a lot of the people that viewed it wasn't hobbyists there were like model Builders
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or like model Railway Builders or people that just like seeing diamas and stuff so that was quite an interesting Dynamic
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for for me and oh that' be interesting to see yeah viewer if you always do one
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kind of content and then you change up then you might have an established audience who isn't interested in it so I
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try to keep people guessing with just random stuff all the time then you can't pigeon hole me right yeah that's a good a wise move
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because I've seen people that do keep it to a very strict set of rules and then it becomes not enslaved to that but then
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it's like a train track sort of thing yeah yeah whereas we've done a little bit of uh what one battle report so
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far some random hobby things some things so I think like a worry for me was um
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like in in the chat shows and stuff cuz myself and pachy are like xgw it would be like oh then there was this story and
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this happened and that's something I've tried to shy away from yeah and not like it comes out occasionally but well we
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opinions don't we yeah yeah we allow them yeah absolutely um but yeah it's
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not like a pillar of our content no I don't think yeah not about the drama sometimes I might winge about like a
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particular release or or whatever like why why can't I get these models I really want yeah don't get peachy
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started on war cry cards I love war cry right I like the cards I still use them don't don't don't
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don't you don't you pull me down there um trying to drag you well from from an outside viewer it's fascinating that you
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guys you know you seem to know so much about the inner workings of the the the inner circle of what's going on and like
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you know in North America it kind of just feels so out of the loop and people know all this behind the scenes
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information that's one the things I really liked about you guys you have all these characters on who have inside stories from back in the day and stuff
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it's kind of like uh demystifying it but sometimes you demystify something it becomes less interesting you guys
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demystify it in a way where it's like oh my God that's so cool I want to learn more you know there's so much under the surface that's just not not uh
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accessible if you're like outside of sort of the Inner Circle so you guys bring everyone in I love it well as as
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both fans of mine whether you've played many games or not is irrelevant uh I'd like to get Thomas pirin in at some point and oh talk about like cuz he
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wrote the rules obviously it was aided by other people because a rule writer doesn't always do on his own but um I'd
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love to get him on and chat about like his thoughts about he'd be great yeah yeah he's an interesting guy yeah so
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Eric when he was a small we lad many years ago what got Eric into the hobby
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you know I've thought a lot about this I mean I can tell the first time I saw Warhammer was at a neighbor's house and
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uh we used to have these two Nextdoor neighbors and we just invited ourselves over to their house every day they were
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like older kids and we didn't have a computer at the time and they had a computer with all the best video games so my brother and I would just go over
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there after school and knock on the door and their mom would open the door and she' like oh you guys again like yeah they're upstairs so we just we just
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watch them play video games basically um kid as well
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yeah uh one day we came in and um like you'd come in and go upstairs and then
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the stairs split and go downstairs and downstairs they had a pool table and I could see something set up on the pool
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table and I was like what's it what's that and they had little trees and everything and uh it was um second
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addiction Gretchen and Orcs and a bunch of trees and piles of Pebbles and stuff and I was kind of immediately drawn into
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it and uh and I asked one of the kids about it the the older kid and he said oh he think that's cool check this out
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and he went up to his room and he brought down a box of uh the old wood elves oh amazing and he had you know I
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just remember he had a great eagle and I was just really kind of immediately drawn into it cuz
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the the detail was so crisp and there was sort of a sense of internal scale
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that I really appreciated that was consistent cuz I used to play with micro machines before that oh I remember them
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they're fun right but then it's like you got a guy who's this big and a tank that's that big you know and a aircraft
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carrier that's that big and so I was kind of like well hang on like this the plane's bigger than the aircraft carrier
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like what am I doing here you know someone used to get in touch with micr machines and and have a word about scale
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[Laughter] crepe we were also I don't know if you guys remember there used to be um Star
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Wars action Fleet they were like they were made by Micro Machines but they were a little bit more consistent with
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scale but even then like the X swing was the same size as the Millennium Falcon but you could fit the same pilot in it
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but yeah the Millennium Falcon you couldn't have two pilots sitting a breast it was just a one guy cuz it was only this big cuz it need to fit in the
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same box that's ruin it for me now but they were still you know like uh I think sort of a slippery slope to get into
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Warhammer because it's just little things all toys are little things right
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I mean you I had uh Cowboys and Indians figurines when I was a kid that with the
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log Builder set and you know um it's it's like what's what's the first point
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when I started playing with little guys I mean it's like before I can remember right so um but yeah then I didn't
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actually paint or have any of my own until a few years later maybe a year and a half later a friend of mine was coming
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over for a sleepover and he said you know you're artistic I need your help with something and he had a box of Jean
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Steelers cool and um you know I used to uh paint a little bit cuz my mom paints
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and um so we had acrylic paints and stuff and we tried to paint these Jean Steelers it was a mess we we kind of
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figured out actually how to dry brush though cuz we were looking at the box and I was like okay well there's no way anybody picks out those veins on the
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side of the head by hand so what if we just tried to like just touch him and and we got a real you know sort of
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chalky horrible effect but I was kind of hooked and then it became Warhammer
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became a full-blown Fad in my elementary school where it was like you know Razor scooters died out or whatever and then
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every kid had Warhammer all of a sudden before you could imagine it it's just all of a sudden everybody had a Warhammer Army and um I got like a
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reputation as somebody who was a good painter so kids were lining up how paint my greater demon paint this all their
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best models they' give them to me and I had a big queue of models that I was painting for people commission painter
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at school yeah I was and then and then everybody just lost interest like that
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you know like the F and I said you know you want your greater demon back now you keep it so that's kind of the start of
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like I I have a pretty wild collection of Minis and a lot of them are old
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commission projects that people just didn't want back because it's like I'm in grade seven now I'm not touching that stuff are you nuts like that's well and
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for some reason I've never lost interest like even a little bit like of all I mean I'm just as susceptible to f is the
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next guy but Warhammer is still as interesting to me as it was you know
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when I was a child as it is now so you know yeah I know the the snooker table
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story reminds me of my brother had like a really tiny one it wasn't very big at all but we used to use that as a gaming
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board as well cuz of the green felt look like grass yeah um and we had these sort of like Ikea drawers they go like little
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shelf and they got like a little insert cut out so you can get your finger in and open the drawer okay but you turn
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them upside down they like buildings and that look like a door uh and obviously using things like we didn't have the
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second edition box set but we used uh space Crusade figures cuz gretchin Orcs and stuff like that true but I defin
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remember playing our first war game on a snooker table with Ikea drawers as
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buildings uh that was definitely a A vibe not Pebbles we didn't get Pebbles
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on damage that felt but um but yeah I don't think when I when I was at school it wasn't really a fad and arguably I'm
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probably a bit older than yourself yeah unless you're just really goodlook and in Canada they keep their their youth
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for a long time you're like J I'm actually 87 says Eric they called it's like a Cryo Storage sort of thing cage
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keeps you fresh baath in maple syrup I heard yeah yeah I'll never tell yeah
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great for the skin I've heard yeah so there's there's the hobby journey I guess a lot of us can can relate to you
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know school or or friends and stuff like gain to it but I guess for me you you never worked for Workshop did you no no
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um so what what move from doing like painting like random stuff he makes at school and keeping all that to making a
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YouTube channel how did that all come about okay well I guess I missed a little bit of
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the journey as well is that I started I started collecting Warhammer because you remember that Games Workshop they used
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to have these um free Flyers by the front that had the centerfold was the bonian versus Lizardman
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so I had four brothers and we were in a road trip once and uh it was one of the
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things we were passing around the car we had game boys we had magazines and all of us were like this is so cool and we were going to visit our grandmother and
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she gave us $20 each and we all agreed we'll spend that on Warhammer when we get back so we all started playing at
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the same time and um so I've always been into it with my brothers and um it's
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sort of around the holidays and stuff we always get together and do it and it's kind of kept us all into it over the years and it's one of the things that I
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talk about about why Warhammer is such a good hobby or Miniatures in general is there's so many hobbies packed into one
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like my brother is a very different personality than me he's very analytical um and he's drawn to the rules side of
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it yeah okay and he and I you know haven't had too many things that we've bonded over as a similar interest over
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the years but because he's so into that side and I'm So Into the artistic side the building side painting creating
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things we approach it from two angles where we're both like oh that's so cool that you've done this and then we have something to bond over um so I guess
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that's kind of how I got into building Terrain in the first place is because I had all these brothers like it's if I
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paint something really nice like for my Army they're like okay cool but that's for your army you know but if I make something for the table that we can all
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use then they're they're more excited about it because they can you know my two brothers can play each other and use
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the Fortified Tower of the forest in that battle and it elevates everybody's
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experience um so that's kind of why I was always into building terrain and
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then I just started for some reason I never really knew what necromunda was like I we played wormer fantasy so I
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would be flipping through white dwarf and it'd be the 40K pages and I kind of give him a skim and then there'd be like a necrom be like I don't know what that
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is but that looks cool you know and I just keep flipping and then um a few
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years ago I say a few it's probably like close to 10 now I started looking more into what necromunda was because I dug
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out some old models and for whatever reason there was a codor ju in there with them I don't know where it came
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from to this day I don't know where it came from but I I Googled it and figured out what it was I go oh it's a necromunda model oh cool and then I
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started going down the rabbit hole of what necromunda is it's quiet rabbit open and I was thinking like I could
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build some really cool necromunda terrain and you know what the setting is really interesting like and I started going to thrift shops and seeing like uh
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you know Batman playsets and I'm like you know I could poach that railing there and then this thing over here and
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I started think thinking about that and um so it was just sort of one summer I
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was in a department store with my wife and there was this water gun and I was
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looking at it and I was like you know if you turn it like that I'm so glad I'm not alone that would be pretty cool
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SciFi to I could see as as you mentioned like pilfering bits from Toys just a
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massive grin on Peach's face cuz he does that not for my child it's not great for him yeah yeah you like oh this Castle o
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I'll come to that in a moment but yeah yeah that's that's cool but yeah so I I saw this thing and I was like my wife
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had been encouraging me to make YouTube content because I'd started I dug up some brettonian and I was painting them
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and stuff she's like you should make a YouTube channel and I yeah um so it wasn't really on my radar but then I was
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like you know what I could make a Sci-Fi Tower and then I could make a tutorial for people yeah
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because this stuff used to be in white dwarf all the time and I realized how much of that's kind of gone away for
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people who are just getting into the hobby like they they I I had a conversation with somebody that really kind of opened my eyes where they were
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like oh you could just put sand on the base you don't need like a basing spread or whatever and I was like yeah of
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course you know like that that's what they used to teach us you know and a lot of that's kind of gone away so I I
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thought um wouldn't it be cool if there were like a resource for people to sort
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of enjoy some of these Old Scratch building techniques that there used to be M um
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and and show people this whole side of it cuz I was always more drawn to that a little bit like I would love to open a
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white dwar for an Army's book and think oh look what they've done there you know they've built a windmill and you can recognize one piece of it and then try
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to figure out what the rest of it must be that's balsa wood and that's and and it also kind of makes the world feel
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more more vast in a way to like I you know nothing against the current people who do the terrain for Games Workshop
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and the settings but sometimes like you'll open the spread and it's gorgeous but look at the back and it's like 100 Alemite Stacks or something yeah and
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it's kind of like a it's like well I I recognize that right away as what it is and it's sort
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of it makes the world feel a little bit smaller that there's only so many structures whereas if somebody had done
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something clever with a you know a Pringles tube and and some it's like well that's a structure I've never seen before I want to see more I want to see
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around the corner from that I want to see the rest of this world that they're implying but when they kind of imply that all the world has the same
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structures it shrinks it s a little bit that's the same thing that uh in Harry Potter I don't know if you guys remember
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but they ended up revealing that some of the things that Harry Potter had in the in the first book where like the
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invisibility cloak was actually a much bigger deal to me I think that was a mistake it like Shrunk the world down
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yeah um it's it's better if you keep it a little bit more open-ended and yeah
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and say you know you're just building one tiny corner of this world and somebody else is building another tiny Corner yeah and it implies something so
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much more vast and yeah Limitless like Star Wars has been pretty bad for that recently with like like the Han Solo
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film and and that kind of stuff and it's like oh yeah like the the Falcons hyperdrive is actually the remnants of
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this robot and all that kind of stuff yeah I mean you don't need to tie
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every yeah the World building in the first movie they they they with one sentence allude to something so vast you
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made the Castle Run and however many parts you don't need to know what any of those things are like it just implies
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that there's you know a a route that's well known enough that people know how long it takes and that and that you know
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or or with the solo thing in particular everything he discusses in the three Originals about what he's ever done is
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condensed into a two we journey yeah so instead of having all this
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experience it's like he had one prequel movie kind of cheapens it a little bit what happened after that oh no I mean
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just Cherry just flew around for a bit oh okay cool awesome I guess it's like with Workshop like with the scenery
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stuff I guess from their point of view if they did a cool thing with a Pringles tube someone like oh my God that's awesome can I buy it no yeah how how do
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you make it I'm not we can't tell you well you could just put a stack of pringle tubes by the cash you there is
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overlap in that audience like oh yeah you're not wrong yeah absolutely I mean who doesn't like Pringles bloody love
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crisps going back going back to the Pringle thing in itself I mean they used to do these old books like um how to
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make war games terrain and it was using poy [ __ ] car yeah Nigel Steelman yeah I should have brought it cuz it's such a
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good book but my favorite thing was The Silo which was just like a can like a bean can and then some drinking straws
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bit of like cardboard cut on it to make like little hatches and stuff spray black dried with silver oh is this the
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um I saw a video I think it was broad wargaming uh making like retro scenery and it was like the three balls like the
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cactus alien yeah absolutely and I think it's it's fine to show that and then you do like white dwarf articles about how
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that this was made and how that was made um and to a certain point you know like
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Dave Andrews he he makes a lot of the 40K or certainly did at the time made made a lot of the 40K Plastics um and it
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was like most of the battles are fought over Imperial worlds Imperials are like a a parasite across the Galaxy they're
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everywhere so there's going to be ruins there's going to be remnants of that but I still feel like you know having the
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odd because there was like a weird um zigar wrap in this how to make war games terrain that had like pumps in it so I
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was like what does that do what does that what does this power like it's it looks like a temple but it's definitely
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a Sci-Fi Temple that has pumps is it just a water pump but it just looks really mythical people believe the Great
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Pyramid of Giza is a water pump oh do they really don't get me started on that I can go down a hole conspiracy I love
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it for spaceship I thought Landing space for spaceship it's not but I'm not going to not going to get too into it's a tomb
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we know it's a tomb I'll just I'll leave it at that it's no mine it's a tomb exactly this is no water pum this
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is a tomb said sha Bean when he was a pharoh of ancient Egypt in one of his many
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films before he died see we got we got sha Bean in it somehow yeah yeah yeah
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yeah one day he'll be sat day one day he'll be sat where your I'm glad to up you know I I when my son was uh an
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infant that's like in a very short period of time I read about 20 sharp
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novels because he would just he'd fall asleep in my arms and I didn't want to put him down too early cuz then he wakes
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up again so I just sort of flip out my phone onle appp and just read over his shoulder and you know they they just go
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by so quickly cuz they're so dig particular favorite I like his uh the first three
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chronologically where he's in India I really I'm fond of those ones yeah cuz it's tiger Triumph and I forget what the
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other one is I know they did trafala at one point where traler is right after I think traler is the fourth yes yeah I
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can't remember what the the other one is but yeah but I've definitely add tiger and Triumph and they were good is it battle shar's battle one of them battle
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there is definitely battle but I can't if that was a Spain one or not yeah there's a lot there's so many pretty
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pretty much any word after Shar you Shar breakfast cool that's right
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that so it's funny I haven't actually watched much of the BBC show but I'm a big sharp fan just from the books free
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on YouTube um so you I watched Clips like I started getting a lot of sharp clips and I enjoy them he watch the
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compilation where he just says bastard like I mean yeah it was Yorkshire day recently so that that video did the
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rounds yeah and it's Sensational absolutely yeah yeah but um I I agree I
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think scratch seeing like you do the stuff that you do on your channel um like the the necam build and stuff like
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I think definitely that um having that as a as a resource for people to look at
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is just as good as teaching people how to paint the plastic that comes in the Box M um because it is a it could be a
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lost skill I think as as time goes on yeah I also think you know it was that
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was accessible for me when I was a kid and I had no money right and you know I mean there's a huge cohort of people in
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the hobby now who are you know more established in their careers have a bit more disposable income and can spash
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money on kits but you know we want kids to be able to get into this and feel like they can um participate at the same
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level as everybody else and I think that that that a lot of the
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time you need that sort of fresh idea that kids have um to keep things sort of
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fresh and interesting and so those I think those those scratch build techniques were a big important part of
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making it accessible to me at a young age cuz it's expensive hobby you know I mean as as adult Hobbies go if you
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compare it with collecting cars it's not an expensive hobby but as kids Hobbies go if you compare it with I don't know
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whatever else kids do you collect sticks what you know sticks and conquers yeah my my favorite scratch
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Builder I ever did and I was so proud of it um was from that war games how to
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make war games terrain and you know you get your green scaring pads for scrubbing and stuff like that was making
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head Ros out of that oh cool and but what they do is they they fold they basically cut a strip and you fold it so
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it's got like a nice rounded top yeah it just it was so nice and then using like Boler wood or um lollipop sticks to make
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little fences so I did like a bit of few of these headed RS and then one with like a gate and then like couple of a
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bit of fence I think I put them on cardboard or it might have been wood um cuz cardboards not particularly great
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cuz it War a bit um I made a mistake doing that once with a neam under build um I made a really cool building with a
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draw a straw on it on the side and the same cardboard I made the building with and it just had curly bits caught the
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side that's when I learned oh yeah when you put lots of stuff like modeling clay and paint on cardboard it it warps and
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bends wood next sign although you know a good fix is to paint the bottom of it too and warp it back the other way and
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yeah yeah that's a classic wock Armory technique yeah damn it past Peach is now regretting not doing that but no I me I
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me some of those hedr when I was in seventh grade I remember vividly you know and it was uh the sponges were
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already under the sink and you know I'd already spent as much as I could on the
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starter box right and so such a simple yeah it was it was simple and uh there
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was a little card card building you could make as well spent what felt like a year making all the shingles for it
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yes what I really like it's like for like the roof tiles and stuff um cuz my dad built one of the ins that's in there
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and you just did strips of cardboard and just cut into it to to look like you know really wickety old roof tiles and
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then uh you know making our special mix of bird poo um at the time which was just like white and Rotting Flesh uh
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this bird poo isn't white or green it's somewhere in between so I remember Dave Andrews had a drawer and he had like cuz
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he used to paint a lot of the scenery for the Empire buildings that were the plastic kits us have lots of on the top
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he had like a couple of pots like there was like the base coat and then the the Whitey kind of tone that goes over the
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top of it I like have in your drawer Bird poo colors like yeah cuz I paint a lot of bird poo on top of buildings yeah
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always remember that so funny you know what's really funny to me is I was on the train up here from London and I
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always thought um you remember the old Warhammer trees they used to make that are very round bot brush construction
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and very round I just think that doesn't look like a tree and we're passing all these farmer fields on the way up here
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and you guys have these round looking trees my jaw dropped I was like you know
26:39
what those old Warhammer trees are a pretty good representation of the trees that very flat underneath aren't they
26:46
because of all the Sheep just eating away at the yeah yeah there you go so I was like wow I'm wrong that's actually a
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very good but that's not what trees look like where I'm from so but now I get it
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thought about that yeah cuz uh I used to live near a stately home uh wish it was mine it wasn't uh and they used to have
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loads of lot of trees like that and then of course the conifers and um sort of
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yeah pine trees and stuff like that they'll be like the odd one of those because they'd obviously import them because they're rich um wrap them with
27:17
like lots of towels to keep them warm over winter they didn't do that just making them no good yeah speaking of which um I
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learned something really cool recently which is after I booked this trip to Nottingham my mom just casually mentions
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she goes oh uh your great-grandfather's from Nottingham did you know I didn't
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know and then um a few days before we left she dug up this document this like typewritten document someone had taken a
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photo of that has information about that part of the family and his father my great great-grandfather used to be a
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Dairy Farmer on the wallon estate and I was like where's that it's
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like 10 minutes from war so there's something in the blood I guess it draws me over here walk over I
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suppose you know yeah yeah my wife and are going to go check it out um it's a nice park and won the the house there
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was used in Christoph ens Batman man so yeah it's really cool so yeah awesome
28:15
isn't that Co what a what a small world yeah yeah I mean it it's weird how like
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talking to like friends that live in like other countries and were born up there or grew up there or whatever how
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many links back to the UK and you know it's not surprising because obviously at the time people were spreading out to
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get away get away from the tyranny of the UK um but for me that that in my
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head that's like centuries yeah whereas a lot of it not that far it was over 100 years ago a couple of like Grand
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grandparents away but still not as long as I would have thought which is yeah like mad like it's weird to think that I
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think I've mentioned it before uh when we I think when we had Pao and we're talking about just how old the UK is
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like the house I grew up in is older than the United States oh yeah like and
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that's just like normal yeah um which is quite bizarre when you think about it
29:08
because you think like oh like you know the US Canada oh superpowers and you know this that and the other and it's like they're quite they're quite new
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still in the grand scheme of oh very new the Earth so I'm I'm from uh Calgary
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Alberta which is in the west of Canada and uh the population of Calgary in I
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think 1905 was like 500 people oh wow so it's like really new you know and then
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even Toronto Toronto has a little bit older Toronto's where I live now um we have some you know Victorian brick
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houses and stuff like that but they'll have a plaque on them cuz it's like a big deal we don't have a lot of them
29:42
whereas here it's just like oh that's an old building it's not special at all it's like no if we had this building
29:47
there' be a black they would be on a walking tour people would be like
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interested yeah my my dad's uh cousin um I found out well was a couple of years ago
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um she lives in Toronto and uh didn't think nothing more of it found out she was like quite high up in the Raw
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Mounted Police so she's like I would imagine to see her in like the standard outfit like
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no no we don't wear that they do sometimes they do something called a
30:17
musical ride that I found out about a few years ago which is basically like a synchronized horse dance it's really
30:23
incredible you guys got to look it up U I've never seen one in person but I was doing research for project and uh came
30:29
across this and it's the most interesting thing about the RCMP as far as I'm concerned I I feel like the the
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Mounted Police in Canada is kind of like our equivalent of I guess now the King's Guard you know with the big like bare
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skins and stood there on ceremony and all that sort of stuff um I don't really know like jurisdictionally I think it's
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like once you're outside of a city the RCMP is kind of like the cops so they just dress like like state trooper kind
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of thing yeah yeah yeah that sort of thing um have that we just different conab don't
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we when you go across like one road you're like I'm long Derby I'm in Nottingham so I might get arrested by different people yeah who have different
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rules and yeah pretty much most the same rules hopefully yeah I think they're all generally the same unless it's Chester
31:13
you have the right to shoot a Welshman with a bow on a certain part of the wall is that right yeah still in the law
31:19
Still Still murder I I read different oh yeah still murder I mean you wouldn't do
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it I read a different Bernard Cornwell book where they're defending the walls of Chester recently oh really one of the
31:32
um uh recognize that one it's the series uh where he's a Saxon but he's raised by
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Danes it's the the the Alfred the Great sort of series I always think he's a bit of a knob that character because he like
31:45
constantly changes sides but then when you start reading it because I got told the story like oh he's he's a Saxon but
31:50
then he's a Daye then he's a sax and he turns on the Danes and he's a Dane again I'm just like this guy sounds like a bit of a dick
31:58
he can't choose who who's hanging around with yeah but yes yeah I forget the the
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trilogy now but winter no no no no that's the arthan trilogy the winter King one that's a great read as well and
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then there's another one that's a Saxon I should know it cuz I series and there
32:15
about 20 of them I I read a lot of them when my son was young as well I think a TV series on BBC or ITV for a time yeah
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I gu I didn't watch it is it UTD utri yeah yeah don't know why I remember that
32:27
probably CU he's a idiot yeah that was good yeah I've got
32:33
no idea what you're on about just just burn a stories of yeah my my other than
32:39
sharp I mean I've read like the starbook um series which is like a civil American Civil War that's all right I've read
32:45
some of I've read the Aran ones although I can't remember much of it now but because the sharp I read a lot I used to
32:52
reread them all the time I don't know why I just really like I was I was into napoleonics as well um but the one I've
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read a couple of times is aan Court's just a standalone on its own that's good really good is it Nick Archer I think
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the guy the character's called Nicholas Archer and he's an Archer I was say joke he's a Cavalry man but it's just so it's
33:11
so well that's not the Thomas of hookton because there's there's ones that are 100 Years War yeah there's a 100 Years
33:16
War and then there which is that one and there's a Trilogy and then there's a standalone for yeah I think it's the
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Standalone I'm thinking maybe I got his name wrong but I'm sure he's like Nicholas something or Nick sounds right
33:28
um but yeah there's there's a really brutal bit when the French are moving towards the the because at that time the
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British had like a handful of Menat arms and like Nobles and just like loads of archers and the French has had like a
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vast amount of like Menat arms and they start going across the the mud it's been raining so um Henry's like deployed his
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forces thinking well they got to trudge across this mud we'll just use the long bowman to to do all the the Dirty Work
33:52
yeah but the French start getting stuck in it and then all the archers are shooting cuz they got quite powerful long bows um so
33:58
getting killed off yeah cuz long and aenor yeah you look at it from like the grand
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scheme like this massive blck of men at Arms lots of armor they nail these guys right you got like a small tiny amount
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in the middle and loads of guys in just like cloth not doing much um but because
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they're in like light clothing um they can go across the mud a lot easier so when it's a horrible scene cuz like some
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of the French are like being pushed face first into the mud and all the mud's pushing through the visor so they're suffocating in the mud so the makes like
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getting shot falling on top of them there's a guy still alive he's like I can't move cuz I'm stuck in armor and I'm like all this mud's just soaking
34:33
into his helmet he's dying horribly but then the um uh The Archers just take off their Wellies or their boots and just go
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across the mud and just start knifing them um and there's a a type of knife it's got like a sort of little ball
34:46
shape at the bottom but it's called a bollock dagger cuz it's they're stabbing down that area cuz main Archer uh it's a
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weak point in the armor CU obviously you need to so these called bollock daggers for stabbing in the B and basically uh
34:59
bleeding out the uh the Frenchman it was horrible I remember reading that thinking damn I need to get a longbow
35:06
here it sounds pretty well you know they talk a lot in the books about like uh
35:12
how strong you have to be to draw it stuff like that and I I I kind of went down a rabbit hole with this looking
35:17
into um like there's there's a ship called uh is the Mary Rose I think that
35:24
sunk in the channel and I guess they had loaded it up with cannons and it an older ship and then they did like a high
35:29
octane turn and this water just splashed through the lower gun decks and just it sank really quickly so there's like
35:35
really well preserved skeletons of like archers and stuff and they can tell from the bones and stuff how like incredibly
35:42
powerful they must have been and they found all these well preserved long bows and I'm just thinking like damn I need
35:47
to get a long bow M because yeah you you you read about it because that that was their job
35:53
um because they I have hunting they weren't just bows weren't just for war I think sword is the only really weapon
35:59
that's designed for war at that time like an ax is for like chopping trees yeah I think some like even like the bills and the hirs are like farming
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equipment at the time um but but yeah so starting off at young age just like your
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job is to keep doing this and as you get older you get a more poundage a bigger
36:17
bow a bigger bow so because you're doing that all day every day like the bone structure and whatever is so you could
36:23
get a nobleman who's like I'm really strong look at my biceps he's like okay draw that and just not designed for his
36:29
body's not adapted to it and they had the the whole culture of it where they'd have these like tournaments all the time of shooting competitions and so all
36:36
everybody was into shooting long bows and stuff cuz it was like and they didn't have that anywhere but England
36:42
which is why they had the big Advantage even though they that anybody could get those bows technically they didn't have
36:47
the people who could shoot them fast and accurately like that it's interesting stuff apparently and this might have
36:53
been is uh the the Duke of Wellington wanted to have longbowman and there just
36:58
there wasn't there weren't enough people that could still fire it yeah yeah apparently he was reading reading up on
37:04
it and he's like damn like we need some of these guys I mean it makes sense cuz I'm wearing any armor I mean you compare to you compare to a musket in terms of
37:11
accuracy how fast you can shoot it and it Stacks up but they just the culture wasn't there anymore where you have these guys who were shooting it from
37:18
Youth and had that level of so I was fantasy getting a bow as
37:24
well cuz when I've done reenactment I'm a man at Tom so I'm probably going to get my face sunk into mud uh whereas
37:29
like some other guys would and you get like different arrowheads for training and doing like reenactment and ones for
37:36
actually doing shooting at targets and stuff but there was one year someone had um put the rubber sleeve over the actual
37:44
Arrowhead he got in so much trouble cuz he didn't want to take all the actual arrowheads off the yeah the uh the
37:50
arrows that's ni so you get like these rubber things that you you put there instead so you take the off and replace
37:55
the rubber thing you just put them over the top and obviously the power it going through it would just poke out the the side um luckily it got caught before
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that happened but yeah we used to when we line up before went onto the field you get like a guy coming along and just
38:07
grabbing your sword and just running his hand up it just to make sure it's not sharp I was like well I hope it's not
38:13
terrible idea yeah I seem to have severed all of my fingers yeah you're
38:19
banned CU you hitting with steel they do get burred quite a bit so you get loose like notches in and stuff and often
38:25
you'd have to like file it down so it's nice and smooth again so obiously it'll be checking just to make sure it's not like a source if he acent hits one of
38:31
the ne but yeah there are you could need check with something else you know yeah yeah a carrot or something a carrot
38:38
that's a better idea actually yeah a sausage yeah I've got a
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sausage in my hand that's fine yeah absolutely well we definitely sidetracked there didn't
38:50
we hey I feel like I learned a lot though yes yeah absolutely I mean do you do other stuff other than like Workshop
38:56
I mean like his IAL based I mean I've not seen much on the channel I've got um I've got some things
39:03
in progress I'm actually hoping to when I go over to Foundry pick up some wild west Miniatures that's something I'm
39:10
cooking up one of my friends wrote a really good set of wild west rules yeah I'm been meaning to give them a try so
39:17
and then uh I have a box of Saxons that I bought when I was reading these Saxon stories and they're still on the sprew
39:23
you know you know how it is I've got some Napoleonic still on the sprew that I might do uh I might do as Red Coats
39:31
but I might also do them as sort of like a turnip yeah sort of thing you seen Napoleonic soldiers and then put
39:38
some you know night Helms on them and then some static grass it's really fun I think it was October we went to the
39:44
event we we did a turnament turnament oh you guys went to yeah it was great Max who who wrote the rules lovely guy very
39:50
eccentric love his mustache the most exceptional mustache yeah absolutely I met him last night actually did amazing
39:57
he's awesome he reminds me of like someone that should be like lifting strong things in a circus yes the
40:03
dumbbells that or like pull off an evil plan and
40:11
go but yeah big fan of T I like I like how the so for like um to to scratch the
40:16
itches is some I've started doing a lot more getting into the skirm I've been looking a lot of the Osprey rules because they do a lot of skirmish based
40:23
offsp rule sets Okay so there's like chosen men which is in put onx there's um Rebels and Patriots which could be
40:30
wild west as well as um obviously your friend's got his own rules for dead by it's called yeah but then I'm sure
40:36
there's a sax one I think it's called oh Pax imperior or something like that um
40:41
but there there's a for literally every year because we on the stream last night weren't we and someone talking about like oh do they do for the English Civil
40:47
War and we managed to find it was like the pikeman's lament it's called yeah again just just quick SK Skirmish level
40:53
slightly larger than Skirmish sort of game so if you want to scratch mind for rules and I just can't even like absorb
41:00
them until I immerse myself in like thetic of the space I've got I literally have to build like a table of terrain
41:05
and paint a bunch of stuff and then I'm like okay now I can start to think about rul Painted everything wrong
41:12
no it's not yeah so it's a bit of a catch 22 but I figure was better to just
41:19
get going than than uh worry about that I mean my first proper fet into um uh
41:25
Napoleonic was with Duncan he got some French I got some British and at the time they had flank Victor tricks did
41:31
flank companies and Center companies um cuz they didn't the Peres didn't do British at the time um they they were in
41:38
the workings but they weren't out um and I was waiting for them to come out so I got these vitrix ones and I was like
41:43
what's the difference between a flank company and Center company I don't care I'll just paint them all up because we're doing a sharp themed game anyway
41:49
and then as I got painting more stuff I was like ah so these are the ones that just gone on the end so there's 10 companies in a in a in a battalion and
41:56
two companies are flank companies one on the left one on the right uh so I need more Center companies oh so uh because
42:03
they just have slightly different like Cent compies have pom poms and then the flank compies have what they call the
42:08
bird's nest which is like a big sort of like cross on that goes on the side that is the the challenge with historicals I
42:14
don't want to painstakingly paint them all wrong and then have somebody just correct me yeah exactly it's I know it'
42:22
be so nice to get them right and then but I mean a lot of the historical stuff that
42:28
I read I mean is completely fictionalized like youever read The Guns of naon it's great fun it has no bearing
42:35
on yeah history and you know so there's nothing really I shouldn't be too fussed
42:40
about painting my guys wrong and I said my imaginary regiment whatever but well my favorite documentary World War II is
42:46
Indiana Jones and the Raiders are lost AR so we all know that's stored somewhere in a 51 uh so it's a true
42:53
documentary uh we fight n well he fights Nazis on a on a random Island and recovers the the Ark of the Covenant so
43:00
that happened yeah it is a good documentary I've always wanted to re recreate that as a as a as a game it's
43:07
like Indiana Jones just some random characters and they're just like really mustache twirly evil Nazi guys and the
43:14
Arc of the Covenant and just just do cool games like pop pop that's the era isn't it it's like pop era I think they
43:20
you know game War gods of egyptus I do yes yeah yeah the um the creator of that has a pulp game oh and I saw it at
43:27
adepticon last uh March when I was there is he did a table for it and it was really cool it was like the Valley of
43:33
the Kings and he had it sort of down in a box and then the ends were mirrors so
43:38
it looks like the valley keeps going on and on beautiful table yeah I'm trying to I'm trying to
43:43
remember the name of the pulp game but escapes my mind but there's so many Niche games out there that I would love
43:49
to have the time to just go into all of them but you know the time flies and you
43:55
got to do what you can yeah I was going to ask you a question have you got other things you want to do while you're in the UK while you're here
44:01
other than visit the great Grandad's film yeah um well we're trying to
44:06
balance uh my wife's here with me so I'm trying not to drag her to Too Much board gaming stuff that she's not necessarily
44:13
most interest we are yeah but then we have a lot of nice like
44:19
like restaurants we want to go to and date things planned and I'm hoping to go to some museums when we're in London and
44:24
uh I love good Museum you know yeah and the Wallace collection for like armor and stuff is amazing is that right okay
44:32
I mean the great thing with Nottingham as well is like you're fairly Central so a train trip like 30 minutes this way 30
44:37
minutes that way will get you to like leads or so leads armor is or or whatever so you it's really amazing how
44:45
close everything together yeah yeah yeah like like I I drove um what 9 10 hours up to the top
44:52
of Scotland recently to uh for a filming job and I was like oh my God God oh so
44:57
far and someone was like oh yeah like in Canada we just drive 10 hours to go to the cinema like just how the timings of
45:04
everything is yeah no sometimes people come to visit Canada and they'll have planned out their trip and they'll be
45:09
telling me they'll be like oh yeah and then I you know I start and the May times and then I take a bus to Toronto
45:15
and then I take a bus to Vancouver it's like that's 4day bus ride yeah four day
45:20
bus ride it's a 4-day bus ride and it's just you know what Forest on either side until you're out of Ontario and then
45:26
it's just prairies yeah and there's nothing to look at there's really but it's I mean yeah the distance from like
45:35
Toronto to Vancouver I mean it would get you to like Morocco or something from here like it's like it's really like
45:40
it's probably I didn't look at a map I shouldn't have just throw something out like that another country yeah I mean it
45:48
it was a sense of scale for me cuz I remember when we were flying out way from Chicago and we were over that Lake
45:53
for is it Lake Illinois we're over there it felt like for age and I was like this is like is this the size of the UK this
46:00
lake is the size of the UK it kind of feels like it's the size of England like apparently like Brits go to Chicago and
46:07
they're like oh yeah I didn't I didn't realize it was on the sea because it's like goes to the the water goes to the
46:13
Horizon like it's that big you know what's really interesting is they actually reversed the course of their River at one point in history really
46:20
yeah yeah yeah cuz they they had all these slaughter houses on the Chicago River and it was like stinking up the
46:25
downtown so they just did a bit of engineering and just reversed the river to go back basically the other way and
46:32
down towards the Mississippi and all these farmers down Downstream from them were like what are all these chemicals
46:37
and you know run off from Slaughter it was a huge ecological disaster but just
46:43
crazy the oh wow just going to turn the water around yeah right yeah oh wow but
46:49
yeah the Great Lakes are no joke they're yeah they're a big big deal yeah but
46:55
yeah welcome to tiny country you be like I'd like to go here oh I'm there it is quite nice I love traveling by train I
47:02
think it's like one of the nicest ways to travel you know you got that table in front of you RS by it's
47:09
beautiful yeah yeah like I know you wife want to go for a bit of a walk when we head off to WM soon for lunch and stuff
47:16
um and for me I'm I'm I'm I'm a walker I like walking often like we when I was at
47:21
warmer World um like working at Workshop we' go out into into Notting for drinks and everyone's like oh let's go on the
47:26
ch has gotten the get a cab get an E I was like we could just walk it's like 20
47:32
minutes and it's cheap and it means you know that money using for a cab or a tra you could use for another
47:37
beer beer just you know you can work some of the calories off as well um and you can
47:44
walk back and fall in the canal I was like that when I went to lvo uh so Las Vegas open we were at um I forget the
47:52
um casino at but there was the in the distance like a big needle and there's
47:59
like a sort of a ride on it and like me Dan and another guy called dmit yeah
48:04
like oh that's go to that I was like let's walk it it's not that far away I can see it my God it took us ages yeah
48:09
and then we walk back cuz we're idiots there's a section where you like leave the strip and it's
48:16
just desert and then it goes to like Oldtown and it's like oh or downtown um
48:21
I'm like oh is this why he's walking in the desert are there snakes like I don't care let's just walk we know oh there's
48:27
a saying somebody told me recently I don't want to offend you guys but
48:33
apparently that there's a saying that uh only two people go out in the midday Sun as madmen and Englishmen yes yeah that
48:41
it's very true that's why we're called lobsters because we burn yeah like Brits
48:46
Brits abroad are recognizable because they're binge drinking and they're bright red yeah yeah I mean I'm like
48:54
super paranoid and I'm I'm always putting SPF on and all that sort of stuff just cuz I am like that's like when you know like Brits go to Spain
49:01
there's a reason why they have a siesta EXA like what off a job is
49:08
it go to beach oh I feel really ill yeah yeah what
49:14
sunstroke yeah idiots yeah I remember like my uh my oldest sister she lives in
49:19
Sri Lanka and we went to visit when she got married like 10 years ago and it was a really cloudy day and me and my mom
49:25
were like we're going to the beach and she was like put loads of sunscreen on cuzz you will get sunburnt even though it's cloudy and and I was like my
49:32
English brain at the time was just like but it's cloudy like there is no sun what are you on about and then got the
49:39
worst sunburn of my life I discovered recently why that is is because the Sun Ray bounce off the white of the clouds
49:46
so it intensifies so when it's if there's Cloud if it's a bright blue sky you're less light to get sunburnt than
49:51
with clouds in the sky really yeah because it deflects off the white it was there's a TV show called one show I used
49:57
to educate me quite a l my mom's always telling me about like she'll look up not
50:03
just the weather but what the UV intensity is I didn't know you could do that recently and
50:08
poll oh yeah found out the pollen count cuz when I ride to work or to meet Pat
50:13
I'm just like con that you I can't see oh Christ yeah God on a motor but yeah
50:20
having hay fever on a motorbike I Chang Lane I don't want to like by accident
50:25
yeah yeah oh wow and he's just like oh great I can see s
50:30
now oh dear yeah sneezing on a motorcycle is not fun no that sounds
50:36
wildly dangerous it's fine it's fine you get used to it you just don't open your eyes when you sneeze because they just
50:41
fall out don't they that's what I've heard that's what my mom told me and don't pull faces when the wind changes you'll stay like that forever is this a
50:48
Superstition was what my granny cuz I'll be like like pulling the face at my sister like and she'd be like the wind
50:53
changes you'll stay like that forever and I actually believe you interesting I my wife is Russian and she's introduced
50:59
me to a whole host of new superstitions that I didn't grow up with and I just I can't resist a good superstation like
51:05
once you tell me I'm like well now I got to do that forever you know like like they have one that's like you can't uh
51:11
uh don't whistle indoors or you'll be poor oh which I hate cuz you know you're doing the dishes this right isn't that
51:17
terrible I'm sorry to share it with you cuz now it's in it's in there yeah there's an artist called Kevin Chin who
51:22
still works at Workshop lovely guy um and he had a Superstition I didn't know it was a thing and I think it was when
51:29
we at Germany clone this is the toothbrush incident uh and I think he had a an umbrella for some reason or it
51:36
was talking about some Su Superstition regarding umbrella and it's like you're not allowed to take in like because he's
51:41
from Singapore um and it's a very I guess Chinese Mandarin sort of related
51:47
culture um that if you take a wet umbrella indoors it brings the bad
51:53
spirits the evil spirits in the house so you have to leave a wet umbrella outside until it dries out cuz the evil spirits
51:59
can if it doesn't stop raining it'll never dry out exactly so the evil spirits just hanging on like we're coming
52:05
in ever since I was like I'm leaving would you not have the Superstition of you can't open an umbrella indoors yes
52:11
you've got that one yeah iously I walk under ladders I like to live dangerously yeah don't under ladders you're not
52:17
allowed to step on like cracks in the pavement otherwise you'll break your mother's back that's bluring line bre your
52:24
mother's back between Superstition and Nursery rhy Rhymes are always crazy I think about
52:29
some of cuz I got a little guy and I think about you know I just start singing them I'm like wait a minute this is about like it started raining the
52:35
other day I started singing about the there's Raining It's Pouring old man this is about a guy who gets a concussion and doesn't doesn't wake up
52:42
anymore it's about an old man who dies of a concussion in sleep oh my God that is unbelievably dark well there's the
52:48
that's not even the worst ring ring of poses right right the Black Death We All Fall Down all oh my God
52:56
that no no the the pocket full of posies is cuz they thought it was the miasma
53:01
the ill humors flowers protect um there's a game on um uh on on your phone
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and every time there's like a disease outbreak so during covid um and and oh I
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can't remember what the other one was previously but um and you can like plan you can like start a virus and you have
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to try and infect the world and one of the there's like a bunch of kid sing
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that in a really creepy way and it's just like pocket full of posies and I was like why are they singing that I
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mean I get it's creepy but it's the plague yeah and oh and the game is
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called plague in there you go yes I know what you mean yeah um yeah it's dark dark as heck yeah wow yeah it's funny
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though how all those things are like a a horror Trope now too like I wonder 100 years from now a ghost will just be a
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kid flossing in the
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hallway I need to to see that oh yeah like doing the fortnite dances and stuff
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exactly yeah just like oh my God yeah cuz that's so funny like yeah like
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ghosts from like oh victorians and they all do this and it's like ghosts from like our age be so rubbish they just
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yeah just be like oh my God don't talk to me about inflation so um I I I have a big fear
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and as a as a father right when I found out Liz was pregnant she knows his fear well my biggest fear was twin
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daughters right okay twin twin boys not a problem twin daughters and the reason
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being The Shining ever ever since I was a kid right I I watched it a lot cuz my
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Mom liked it and stuff and I probably shouldn't have watched it that age but I enjoyed it I didn't like freak out
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anything other than the two girls stood in the corridor at any given moment when the two girls were in the corridor hand
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together like I forget what the kid's called now but U Tommy is that hello Tommy I actually like go behind the safe
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like high behind the cushion you know the weird I don't know rotten lady in the bath fine with that I'm okay with
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hag lady coming naked out the bath problem well how about cuz the one that really got me as a kid I mean I wasn't
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even a kid I was like maybe 12 13 at the time was the ring where you have a rotten little girl coming out of the well that's kind of yeah all that
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together and the people the fa it's the faces people pull when they've died and they found oh yeah and they just show
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you just a little jump scare of it that's the ring and The Grudge the grudge made me jump a little bit I can't
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remember horror is not my it's it's buff of the Vampire Slayer gets killed by weird Japanese lad Gil thing oh um in an
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attic uh anyone goes in the murder house dies basically yeah I mean why you going
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split split up terrible idea I forgot what the the movie is oh is it the cabin
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where they they do all those trapes like every I was like we should split up that was actually quite good CU there's like
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an underground laboratory full of like all the evil baddies spirits and stuff
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and they've got like these teenagers and youth and stuff at a cabin and they're slowly introducing like horror things to
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them and I think um Chris em characters is like um maybe we should split up and was like that's a stupid idea let's just
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all stay together and then the guy that it goes to like the scientists in the laboratory going damn yeah quick press
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this button they like some weird influence gas out gases out makes they're like no that's a great
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idea yeah is a Well Done It is Well Done my wife is really smart cuz when we're
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watching anything remotely scary she'll pull up a website that says exactly when the jump scares are coming oh wow genius
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and she'll she'll she always she'll pull up she'll find the script for a movie We're watching and read ahead so nothing
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can ever surprise you and she'll you know it'll like set something up and she's also just got a real uncanny knack
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for the second they drop a hint to foreshadowing she goes oh yeah he's the guy and and she just sniffed the whole
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thing out right away that's the wife thing cuz my wife ruins movies like that a lot yeah and my favorite one I was
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watching was uh lost in New York or lost in La whichever the first one was um escape from esap from Escape From New
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York lost same difference I suppose you all lost a little bit and uh she was like she came in I was watching it I was like a snake pin love it she's like oh
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don't tell me he's like X Special Forces he's got to rescue the president something like that I was like have you seen this before she's like no why would
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I watch this they walked off I was like no you know what Ty something is so groundbreaking it doesn't age as well
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because it becomes a Trope right like you watch Bullet with Steve McQueen and it's kind of a snoozer now because
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everybody was like yeah we need a badass car chase and they kept upping the anti to the point where the original doesn't
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stand up like I mean I'm sure like there are kids today who would watch and I know this cuz I watched with my wife's
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younger brother we watched The Matrix yeah and he was kind of like all right like what's it's like no you don't
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understand the context of how different this was you know when the when the bullet time happened and then slowed
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down and changed angles it's like now that's just noral like uh yeah it's been done so much that it doesn't hit the
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same but I think the matrix it's still it's still stands up like really really well I think Oh I thought so too and
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like the Kung Fu and everything that's in there is amazing like you say it's groundbreaking for the time but then
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yeah Los I mean the plot still is stands up really well the action scenes AR
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aren't groundbreaking anymore like well I mean they still are groundbreaking in the Goa things but they weren't
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impressive to I also think you know in general I used to watch a lot of kung fu movies and stuff like that and now it's
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like maybe it's cuz the the UFC is so popular or something but it's just I can't suspend my disbelief anymore like
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watch and maybe it's just cuz I've gotten old but now it's like action scenes are the most boring part of a movie to me it's like give me some more
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dialogue I I do miss the old classic like Bruce Lee kung fu movies there's one called Fist of Fury me and M Dad we
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watched that a lot because you can tell when they punch someone is hitting a pan cuz it's just
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like just like is he made of metal no but Bruce Lee was also he was Notorious for hitting the stunt
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doubles get surrounded by eight guys and he'd really be booting them in the face and yeah yeah like the was it the Hong
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Kong like like action films like Jackie Chan and and all that sort of stuff like Jackie Chan's amazing Jackie Chan got
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his start getting kicked in the face by Bru Lee really Aunt double I reck he assimilated some of Bruce Lee in that
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face Jackie Chan is amazing he's so good the the the choreography and the you
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know he he make a comedy scene out of a fight scene the Jackie Chan is an exception I'll still watch Jackie Chan action scene any day you know he he'll
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hand you a vase punch you take it back jump through a ladder you know I was like Armor of God I watched and we
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watched it on like it was like a VHS from Blockbuster back in the day as you do ni um and it had an extended bit at
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the end uh and there's a bit where he jumps from a balloon onto a onto a mountain where there's a cave where he has to fight
1:00:01
like some other baddies and they had to break filming for like six months cuz he
1:00:07
missed and fell and broke his back yeah I was like there's so many of those
1:00:14
stories they're like oh yeah we're a bit worried because we thought we might not be able to finish this movie because he might die but he managed to you know
1:00:20
pull through and get back on the TR I that's insane that's because Sean Bean did the same thing with Patriot Games
1:00:26
he's got scar here yeah and you know Harrison Ford ends up in Patriot Games he whacks him with this um because he's
1:00:31
on a speedboat and the're fighting it's when sha Bean plays like an Irish terrorist and they going to get ready to
1:00:37
crash into like some rocks he ends up getting hit with the anchor from the speedboat and he actually gets hit with the anchor from the speed boat and gets
1:00:43
knocked out um I hope they used that yeah they Ed the take yeah um but yeah
1:00:49
he's got scar when he he likes to do his own sort of uh stunting sharp and stuff like that but yeah that's how he how we
1:00:55
got that big go on the side of his head I love that you're able to bring it back to shti I can't help it back to Shar
1:01:02
back to Sean being in someone show me a picture of like some heartthrob picture of sha bingo I bet you had this on your wall I was like no I had that in the
1:01:13
wardrobe Mrs Peach can tell you stories I'm sure oh dear me lovely um we have
1:01:20
some questions from our patrons oh tremendous uh if if you're happy to uh to answer some course our uh our patreon
1:01:27
community is um notoriously silly because they take our their inspiration
1:01:32
from us um or we take it from them yeah yeah uh so someone has asked what brings
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you to the UK oh well the the Warhammer
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Warhammer um no I mean I've got some some English background we talked a little bit about it and um uh my wife
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and I this is our first trip away from our son yeah since has been born so it's
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a amazing you know um things just came together that uh that made me want to
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come out here at this time um sorry for a disappointing answer
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trying to think of a way to answer that that's fun and silly but yeah you should be like to party and play Warhammer yeah
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that's the best way it's a good answer um uh Katherine has asked quite a
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pointed question is the Titan finished the Titan is not finished but but there is a big update coming so um yeah I get
1:02:30
a lot of questions about the Titan obviously people are very excited about that project and I'm very happy about that and uh you know it's one of these
1:02:36
things I just I've always jumped between projects it's how I keep things fresh it's how I keep my interest High and the
1:02:43
Titan is one that I don't want like if I don't feel like I can execute a part of it exactly how I want to then I need to
1:02:49
sort of iterate on smaller projects develop the techniques and come back to it so I'm not I'm not trying to turn it
1:02:56
around in your typical YouTube Project schedule obviously it's already been a year and a half since I started it um
1:03:02
it's it's taller than me already and it keeps getting better and it will be finished I'm not going to forget
1:03:10
about it or abandon it and um and sometimes yes the time does fly in between installments but uh it's always
1:03:17
being worked on it's always being worked on and uh and an update is coming soon what's out the Mona Lisa it took a long
1:03:25
time to payt the mon so is that right I think so I believe so if my art history is right you heard the theory it's
1:03:31
actually a self-portrait yeah if you superimpose Da Vinci's self-portrait over the month I I
1:03:36
don't really understand how that it was early face app I reckon then yeah you
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go amazing um witl has said best and worst
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cheese best and wears cheese if you're a fan of cheese oh good question we get
1:03:54
the cheese question cheese is probably the one that you get on the airplane I can tell you from recent experience that's a bad cheese I
1:04:01
don't know what they call it I ate it in the dark wasn't good um the to what to
1:04:06
hide the shame yeah what's that what's the bird that you eat with the thing Oreland you
1:04:12
guys heard about this they had it on succession on HBO succession it's like a delicacy it's like a swallow or something and
1:04:19
you I guess there was some taboo around it so you eat it with a towel over your head and you crunch down on this bird
1:04:25
and it's crazy thing oh wow yeah um and then the towels to hide the shame of
1:04:30
eating the oroline oh so you do that with the cheese no no it was just it was a Redeye flight and the lights were off
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so I just was eating in but okay best cheese um I like a a crumbly blue cheese
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but you know um some people might say the worst cheese is American cheese but American cheese is the best cheese for
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Hamburger because it doesn't split when it melts yeah so
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situational thing yeah and I know that's uh not a very it's a a very uh
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diplomatic answer maybe but I like I like every cheese has its place everything has its place yeah so so
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you're a Stilton kind of guy yeah I like s yeah get some Stilton and cheese gives
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you dreams e you guys I love cheesy dreams my favorite things it's my go-to before bed before bed snack I eat a
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piece of cheese and then uh my wife watches this cheese get smaller and smaller who h a little bit before I go
1:05:24
to bed cuz I love cheese drink did you cut it off you just pinch it off oh I cut it off I go I go for a SL I'm a
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slab pincher slab pincher it's all this weird ragged Edge always on the cheese
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that's me there we go I I I've never had a Cheesy dream you got some amazing ones
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yeah may maybe I'll try it that that can be you know 33y old me getting adventur
1:05:46
a quick of a cheese dream I was running away in spondon Village which is where I live from Anakin and Obi-Wan cuz they
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wanted to arrest me uh I mean that sounds amazing should deconstruct that a
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little yeah Peach's been playing a lot of shatter Point recently a lot of sh a lot of watching a lot of clay War say
1:06:05
it's definitely in the yeah um Ricky has asked do fish know
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they are in water they sure do because they know when they're out of water and some fish
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as you know can jump out out of water they know something's going on when they going upstream and stuff yeah yeah oh
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yeah they they they'll know for sure I mean we know we're in space yeah I mean kind of yeah maybe animals have pretty
1:06:31
high level of awareness of these things you know they I'm sure they can tell differences in temperature of water when
1:06:37
another stream's coming in when this water is poorly oxygenated or not they know what's going on very good answer
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there we go um Stephen asks um is there anything you're particularly excited or
1:06:51
nervous about when it comes to the old world re-releasing do you hope it'll lead to a more time
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Resurgence um I really want that I'm nervous that it'll suck I mean honestly like I don't care I
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really don't I I my my expectations are pegged very very low because not because I don't think that the studio is capable
1:07:11
of doing something really great I know they are but because that way I can be pleasantly surprised and not disappointed right
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um I think the fact that we've seen you know just a small amount of resin stuff
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so far is certainly gives one signal about the direction they're going to go with it and the amount of resources they might
1:07:30
be committing to it and things like that but I think the these things
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are I always use this example where it's like if if if you've got Monopoly on the
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Shelf at home and Milton Bradley you know Nerfs Boardwalk or something and
1:07:47
they say now it cost $1,000 and it only gives this much rent you don't have to play it differently you know like I like
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I'm not going to rebase any my guys for the old world cuz I wouldn't rebase them for age of Sigmar I'm not necessarily
1:07:59
going to use the rules if the other person that I'm playing with is more familiar with sixth edition or something like that so I'm really not concerned
1:08:06
very much about what they're going to do I think it's just all upside we're going to get some cool new models yeah and we're going to see more people who are
1:08:13
interested in square based gameplay and and whatever GW does is kind of a bonus
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right it's kind of a bonus and I don't want to say an afterthought cuz it's you know it's a big deal and it's exciting
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but um I don't think there's much that could go wrong really yeah the the worst you
1:08:31
could do is re-release the game and re-release all the Plastics yeah yeah absolutely people are happy with that the first time around so yeah I mean all
1:08:38
I care about is getting those plutonium manats cuz I love their heads uh they've got some great sort of like helmets and
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oh the new SCS look great too more of that M yeah and apparently
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actually I saw some on Reddit maybe um where somebody bought a kit recently and it came with squares and rounds
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already yeah so so that's a bonus I mean the more options they give you that's good if they started just including
1:09:03
Square bases with everything that's it's just a bonus that could also be an old set um if it's like Warhammer age of
1:09:09
Sigma set so it was that new looking box that's got the vertical pictures of once it was a very new looking box yeah maybe
1:09:16
in preparation I uh I wish there was more guidance over the base size cuz it seems like I don't know how soon it's
1:09:22
going to come out but no I'm not I'm I'm not concerned I think it'll be cool to have that reemerge as sort of a game
1:09:30
style yeah yeah awesome um Keith has asked what is your dream project if you
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had unlimited resources oh I would do like a fullsize
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hive City oh yeah like something I just I love like for me I mean this is maybe
1:09:49
one of the reasons why I always build terrain and stuff is like I want to have um foreground Middle Ground background
1:09:56
all be immersive when you look at it right and the more that you're able to
1:10:02
turn your head and still be immersed the better you know so I it always goes to like a large scale project of some sort
1:10:09
like that I'm actually really excited I'm going to Warhammer world this afternoon I'm excited to see some of the big diaramas they've done there and see
1:10:14
if I can get some ideas from that but um one of the things that's actually interesting me is they're doing the new
1:10:20
small scale stuff with the um epic 30k what what call that I should remember
1:10:27
imper arst isn't it yeah yeah something teeny tiny Horus heresy yeah
1:10:33
but yeah I mean that kind of when I think about big scale terrain projects is a lot less intimidating if you bring
1:10:39
the scale down a little bit so it's exciting from that perspective to me as a Terrain Builder you can yeah yeah that
1:10:44
would be really interesting get a little crazy that way cuz I've never made um like scenery building or diar arm or
1:10:50
anything like that and I think I'd really like to try something and I was reading the nightlord's book and there was like a cool scene in there where
1:10:56
they're like one of the guys goes insane and is just like shooting up at a Titan and I'm like that would be really
1:11:02
expensive but oh I could make a miniature version of it right so that would be fun um and cheaper
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hopefully smart Mo yeah absolutely um yeah that'll be fun uh alist ask what's
1:11:15
your favorite necromunda gang and favorite necromunda miniature o good question okay that's a good question
1:11:21
that is a good question my favorite gang the gang I've played the most with is Dak because I have the old metal delx
1:11:27
and um um but I'm actually now more and more drawn to the ashers because I've been
1:11:34
trying to convince my wife to play with me and she's on board it's just we for some reason haven't done it yet and so
1:11:40
I've been making her gang better and better and better her gang is the Esters and she named them all and then I'm
1:11:45
giving them little bits of personality and um and my painting keeps getting better so I keep revisiting them and
1:11:50
touching them up and uh some of the like some my favorite models um are maybe the
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old eer jues cuz they're really like look like young women and I love the
1:12:02
contrast of of a small je that actually looks like a youngster yeah cuz I mean that's I mean that's what real gangs do
1:12:09
right like real baddies they they're used children soldiers right with Little
1:12:14
ponytail auto gun or is it yeah and then the girl with a wrench and everything
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I've got I've got those um but I think if I had to put choose a single miniature that's my favorite would be BR Carley Avenger who's a ratkin hero and
1:12:28
he's got just that classic sort of 8s action star holding the heavy stubber in
1:12:35
his Rippling Muses imagine mixing um Dwayne The Rock Johnson from Scorpion King um and given a given a massive like
1:12:43
machine gun exactly it's it's just a fun only improved yeah uh skinnyman just says Eric
1:12:52
question mark oh my go so this is a from when I did some streams a few years ago I said people okay I told this anecdote
1:13:00
I shouldn't even tell it again but I was on one of those things is like uh maybe
1:13:05
it's Omega now but it's Chat Roulette at the time you chat with a random person and you know I was I was on that nudity
1:13:11
I wasn't nud I wasn't nude or anything I was just checking it out with of mine I was wearing a shirt okay and uh there
1:13:19
was just a black screen and in the chat someone did said Eric question mark and
1:13:25
and then they they quit the convo so I I like it bothered me because it could have been literally anyone I've ever met
1:13:32
right and it's like an unanswered question that sort of nagged at me so then people started doing that in the
1:13:38
chat because I was streaming they said Eric question mark and I said okay look if you put Eric question mark I'm going to ban you and then people of course
1:13:45
started doing more and more so that's send me their name I'll make sure they're banned from my
1:13:52
channel yes uh well congratulations skinny man you have uh you're a lifelong
1:13:57
ban you have been banned man SP with two ends at the end uh he's like know what you're doing stop I remember
1:14:07
that um amazing um Daniel has asked what's your favorite tea to drink if if
1:14:13
you do drink tea you're a coffee man is that right yeah I'm a coffee man but I like a good tea from time to time um I'm
1:14:21
going to throw it in the correct answer is you or your tea but what is that just tea from
1:14:26
yire I like English breakfast is a hint was that burgut that's in there that's
1:14:32
um oh that might be ill gray could be yeah that's bit big sorry I'm I'm not an expert but I do like a good cup of tea
1:14:38
my grandma was very she used to do like a proper tea and it was it was really nice she'd yeah you know when I was
1:14:44
young I understood that you could you could put as much sugar and cream in as you want and then you could really have
1:14:50
a party you know yeah um but nowadays I it's just a good
1:14:55
option when uh when you've already had too much coffee yeah yeah yeah I like
1:15:01
tea kid yourself who got less caffeine in it or yeah I do drink too much something along those lines I I don't
1:15:06
know which one's got more or less people complain about it or debate about it and all that sort of stuff you know what I do have a handful of herbal teas that
1:15:13
I'll drink after dinner cuz yeah some of them do have no caffeine and that's a
1:15:18
big help sometimes yeah my favorite um video that I watched recently on Tik Tok
1:15:24
I think is in the us people don't really have kettles um there this microwaving tea yeah and and I presume it was done
1:15:30
on purpose um and someone was like oh I'm going to show you how to make a British tea so first you put it in the
1:15:36
microwave and just everyone goes insane oh the comments were hilarious um I wish
1:15:43
I ask for tea instead of coffee for the authentic experience but do you guys okay do you guys have to hot the pot
1:15:49
before you brew the if I'm doing a a pot of tea um I will pour a little bit of boiling water and S it so it warms it up
1:15:55
and then te and then put the tea My grandmother used to swear that it tastes horrible if you didn't do that yeah yeah
1:16:02
just cool yeah I can see that I don't like tea in thermos flasks because it gives it a horrible plasticky taste
1:16:09
never that everything tastes of thermos flask does it oh yeah yeah I'm not into reusable water bottles I mean I
1:16:16
figure of all the things you know it's like you can when you can taste the bottle something's something's wrong you
1:16:21
know like I I want a neutral tasting water thing tasting yeah taste the plastic there we
1:16:28
go um oh wow Peppa the Sheba oh Sheba enu
1:16:35
that's kind of dog uh they kind of look like foxes one of my friends has got one but Peppa the Sheba enu um is a very
1:16:42
well- read dog because they've said um thanks to your two videos where you painted all 18 Space Marine Legions for
1:16:48
the Horus heresy I now have a fully painted world eaters Army amazing um how does it make you feel when you see/
1:16:55
that your own creative output directly influencing oh that of other hobbyists
1:17:01
it's a wonderful feeling it really is it's really special um it's kind of surreal you know
1:17:07
sometimes I I'm not one to shy away from a conspiracy theory here and there um so
1:17:13
sometimes I I think that YouTube views are all fake it's not real people you know and then it's just a you know the
1:17:20
Matrix trying to keep me in my house or something like that I don't know but but to see that it is real people like that's one of the
1:17:26
reasons I really like going to like adepticon or or and getting out there and then real people come up to me and
1:17:31
they say I really like this video I did this and that's that's too cool to me like or or or I'll see somebody's built
1:17:38
something a really cool piece of necromunda terrain and I go that's incredible great work and I'm thinking man that guy's so much better than me
1:17:44
that's and then he'll go I was inspired by you get out of here that's it's so cool it's really such a cool feeling to
1:17:50
think that that I am maybe you know planting some seeds out there for people's creative energies to grow it
1:17:58
makes me really happy in a weird way you're kind of like the old guard of
1:18:03
white dwarf and those books at the time but in a current sort of like new digital format that's like YouTube as
1:18:09
opposed to to books so like you know 20 years from now people be talking about the the Erics the trents the guys the
1:18:16
squid Mars that's cool think about yeah the sugs you know I remember that crazy
1:18:21
girl who's from Scotland who paints things with rainbows yeah we remember her she's
1:18:27
great yeah yeah I always wonder what um cuz say say like I feel like YouTube is
1:18:33
is having like a like the hobby channels are certainly like growing um and we're
1:18:39
perhaps in like the the newer wave of that like us and sugs and and bits and
1:18:45
Bobs I wonder what it's going to like when we're all old like what we're going to do and just be like y we're still hobbying and we're in our 60s well I
1:18:52
mean that's I don't know about you but that's definitely my tension is because I want to then hit different age groups
1:18:59
yeah so you know as I get older my eyesight's going to fail my hands are going to get shaky um I can only have
1:19:04
the strength to do certain things so how do I do my hobby at that so how can I help other people well as your eyesight gets worse and you get older that's when
1:19:10
you go to smaller scale historicals isn't that crazy that the reverse correlation people get smaller
1:19:17
scale as they get older and their eyes it gets worse nobody goes the other way which you would think yeah but but it's
1:19:23
weird yeah I guess the detail is not there so you you just put like black for the Hat I think Warhammer is the model
1:19:30
trains of the Gen X and and and millennial generation right and um you
1:19:35
know I knew plenty of old folks that had model train sets when I was a kid and it'll be I think perfectly normal it's
1:19:41
for an older person to have a world leaders army or something yeah you know young kids will see it and go still in
1:19:49
Derby where Games Workshop is in Derby's little little road little old sort of street called saddlegate and just around
1:19:55
the corners of the cathedral mhh and there was one day I was in the shop working priest comes in we used to get
1:20:01
some folks come in and just spout us about how horrible we are because it's like demons and wizards and it's like
1:20:07
heretical and this that the other this priest comes in I'm like oh no what's going to happen and he just walks down
1:20:13
gets the demon onto codex comes to the T like oh no it's like you collect demon on his then he was like yeah I love
1:20:20
them and I was like cool he's like nothing better than smarting the witch before I go to bed I was like
1:20:27
cool that's hilarious that amazing that guy yeah oh that's awesome you think he
1:20:33
was maybe just I hope he was doing a seminar or like some kind of like you just doing a bit for for your enjoyment
1:20:39
maybe I I like I like giving Games Workshop employees a hard time when I go
1:20:44
in this is what I do honestly like uh I go in and they say you know can I help you cuz they're always very helpful and
1:20:50
I say uh yeah I'm looking for uh an Xbox for my niece and they go oh we don't hack I okay okay
1:20:56
no problem PS4 and then they start oh I got to
1:21:02
explain I go I'm just kidding I've been collecting for 20 years you know you have no idea how often we get that I go yeah I do that's
1:21:09
that's the joke that didn't even cross my mind that you just go in and be like games like what games do you have was me
1:21:15
Chris prit we had someone come into the shop come in and uh literally they went
1:21:21
straight up to the till cuz the till was quite close to the door and it was like right got his Xbox or Playstation can't
1:21:26
remember it was I old wanted to return it he was like I want to return this um it's rubbish I just want my money back
1:21:32
and we're like sorry we don't we can't return that he was like my wife said you were going to say that I'm sick and
1:21:38
tired of people like you and he start Shou out his like Ean and blind I was like honestly if if just just look
1:21:44
around the shop if you can find another Xbox or a PS4 you can have it for free yeah and he was like you what and he
1:21:50
look was like oh my wife's an idiot and then walks up like no your wife is not
1:21:57
the idiot yeah and no like oh I'm really sorry yeah yeah like cuz we had all
1:22:02
sorts of people asking for things like my favorite one was someone came in I was like do you do double glazing mate I
1:22:08
like other than those stuff that is in front of the window how have like cuz it says Workshop maybe I don't know yeah
1:22:16
glazing is a painting technique yes glaz a painting Tech you're not wrong yeah
1:22:21
we'll have to ask Richard Gray yeah can you double glaze
1:22:27
smart but yeah I can't wait until I'm old playing Warhammer yeah um I mean if I have grandkids I'll be like super old
1:22:35
um and then they be like Oh Daddy can I see your granddad whatever can I see your figur this I'm like yes blood for
1:22:40
the blood C like how great will that be I'm going to record that happens yeah
1:22:49
it' be amazing uh lovely two more questions to go uh Robert says honestly what does your storage look like for all
1:22:57
of your terrain projects do you have an entire Warehouse somewhere full of awesome castles and stuff
1:23:04
um no I wish um one of my uh I I read these books
1:23:11
when I was younger Clive kussler is the author and one of his characters is uh
1:23:16
he collects classic cars so he lives in an old Hangar yeah and I think one day that's the direction I'm going but
1:23:22
currently currently I just have a Suburban house with a basement and and closets and there's luckily a big space
1:23:29
under the stairs most of my things is in big plastic tubs totes and uh then just
1:23:36
squirreled away in every corner I can I've got some stuff up up in the garage above there's sort of a loft in the
1:23:41
garage yeah um although recently raccoons broke in there got muddy footprints on everything so God damn
1:23:48
raccoons that's that's not great but really it's um it's just everywhere it's
1:23:53
everywhere there's no um and it keeps growing do you reuse stuff like break up
1:23:59
old projects and reuse them in no I've never broken up anything I've never got I still have all the minis from when I
1:24:04
was a kid I'm uh I believe the term is hoarder yeah yeah yeah I'm uh I'm a hoarder and um
1:24:12
but it's your job so it's fine well I'll tell that to my wife she yeah she's uh
1:24:19
she's convinced me to to to cut down on my other hordes like my my my uh
1:24:24
my book collection I thinned it down quite heavily and but the Warhammer collection is yeah still growing and uh
1:24:34
alarmingly large um and yeah so I mean the way I look at
1:24:41
it too is my projects are not necessarily Standalone you know if I have some desert rocks and then I build
1:24:48
a desert Fortress it's cumulative right you know what I mean like there's a so I can't I can't possibly get rid of my old
1:24:53
projects or then I wouldn't be able to recombine them with the new projects and make something even yeah you know that's
1:24:59
greater than the Su of its parts so that's kind of how I how I think about it um but unfortunately I mean my
1:25:05
brother and I were doing something recently where we were bringing out a bunch of old models and we realized that some of the first projects are no longer
1:25:10
up to Snuff and so I have gotten rid of a few things over the years had a pretty shabby zigurat that I made when I was 12
1:25:16
that we just kind of you know we have a better zigarette now and um some old Hills had aged pretty po poorly so yeah
1:25:24
but mostly it's just stuffed in every corner of my large basement and garage is the answer yeah sweet nice good
1:25:32
gaming Club you you could make a gaming Club of all the senior a bit I thought of that yeah
1:25:38
yeah again try I do I love to have people over for a game you know like uh I'll join a league and someone say which
1:25:44
game shop which we meet at I said why don't you just you know come by and we'll play we'll set it up and then
1:25:50
amazing yeah yeah is this the the last question yes uh from rusted Bol gun oh
1:25:56
nice uh and they say uh do you have a favorite modeling tool and if so what makes it special modeling tool
1:26:05
favorite um now I don't have like special sentimental attachments to any of my
1:26:10
tools cuz I abuse them so badly that I just couldn't couldn't possibly but I have a very trusty glue gun that's
1:26:15
worked really well for a really long time dual setting um so you know um like
1:26:21
are we both just o some glue guns get so hot that if you
1:26:26
leave it unattended it'll dump the whole glue stick this is not one of those this one has um the hot temperature is very
1:26:34
hot but also will just stay on its own so I can leave it under a pile of papers go away for the weekend very good not
1:26:42
recommended by the way but I've done that um and yeah I really love hot glue
1:26:48
because when you're building something improvisationally um you can just it cools so quickly yeah and and um yeah
1:26:55
you can just bang bang bang and and and it's one of those things that if you don't like it you can just rip it off oh
1:27:02
absolutely away redo it and then stick it back on yeah and it's also it's got a bit of rubberiness to it so it's not as
1:27:09
brittle as sometimes especially I kind I've been thinking about doing this I'm not sure there's wide enough interest
1:27:14
but there are some Plastics that are just awful to glue like uh I like uh I
1:27:20
know like Tech Deck um Tech Deck like half pipes I know this plastic it's kind of an oilier plastic that um and there's
1:27:28
several like Plastics that just won't there are no glues essentially that work on them and and those those things uh
1:27:36
apart from just totally avoiding them for modeling purposes they're like there's you have to be quite crafty
1:27:41
about adhering them to things a big pile of hot glue in behind something will always help so yeah yeah um yeah it's
1:27:49
like a g out Gil free card yeah it's certainly uh and you can use it you can use it inject into something Hollow to
1:27:55
give it strength like a paper straw or something like that there's there's all sorts of uses for hot glue it's a
1:28:01
fun building a rock face out cork bark and there was just like some big gaps I didn't like I was like get in there
1:28:06
right I just had a little bit of broken Cork and went at the top just to fill that hole oh very good yeah perfect
1:28:13
that's yeah I'm just going to say thank you to Eric for sending us some maple syrup there's one for me and Patrick so
1:28:20
they look like little whiskey bottles as well I quite like that yeah yeah yeah that's a shot of maple
1:28:25
syrup yes well I mean it's customary now that you you got to chug it on camera I
1:28:30
will yeah some dice uh at first I was like oh do I go white or black but you gave us all a set of white and black so
1:28:37
thank you very much for that phenomenal you guys deser it you guys good job we just we just waffle and talk nonsense as
1:28:43
you can probably tell yeah I don't know how we survived talked a little bit about Hobby and then we went on a
1:28:48
history and film tangent and then and then brought it back at the end with the patreon question there you go yeah well
1:28:53
thank for coming on the show uh we're going to go off to bugman's in a minute and have some food I'm really excited
1:28:59
yeah it's like again from someone who's like in North America and a little bit more detached if it's like uh like Willy
1:29:05
Wonka's chocolate factory or something it's there's so much mystique and it's like I'm just really excited to go over
1:29:10
there and see what's going on you haven't been before get see the rhino in the car park
1:29:17
the closest I've been is when I was young um my mom was trying to take me and my
1:29:24
brothers to a Games Workshop in Miss Saga and actually accidentally took us to the Canadian headquarters which is
1:29:30
just a a warehouse um but they were super friendly and they welcomed Us in and gave us yeah and they gave they gave
1:29:38
me like a stack of old uh magazines and books including uh the modeling guide
1:29:44
and uh how to make war games terrain by Nigel still yeah so you know those guys
1:29:49
being so friendly was maybe a big influence on me as well cuz that I think that I don't know if that book was even
1:29:54
in print at the time that they did that but it was very kind and very very lovely move that that era Workshop was
1:30:00
very different cuz they used to like all sorts of Tours in the studios CU I was on a tour and when I pass my um manager
1:30:07
training and you get shown around and look through the studio very less
1:30:12
stringent on their ndas and you know leaks didn't really care about that kind of stuff it was just all for the love of
1:30:18
the hobby whereas now it's a bit more like the leaks will damage us us money it doesn't really
1:30:24
the the top comment on our chat with Tom was like oh you're going to be the
1:30:29
reason for a new NDA 25 year long year yeah apparently yeah cuz he talked about
1:30:35
stuff that's just normal business practice but yeah sure absolutely yeah yeah there we go
1:30:44
excellent well thank you for having me on no thank well it would be rude not toer this side of the pond so um thank
1:30:50
you for making the the small Journey from your hotel to here good to see Patrick's driving thank you Patrick for
1:30:56
Pat's taxis Pat's taxis nice yeah I like it in a new car which is quite nice that
1:31:01
have to be self really muddy the confectioning cake route and have P of cake as well but
1:31:07
maybe maybe next time we'll make some cakes but yeah there you go we're going to go off to war buy some NEC

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