Behind the Scenes, 3D Printing, and Waffle

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hi I'm peachy and I've just returned from fishing in the north scene oh I get the reference
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hi I'm an idiot and apparently that makes me better if
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that makes me Captain bedside oh okay send me comments about this
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jumper they've been fishing in the north city Gotti Fisherman's friend
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I yeah I was trapped on Discord this morning um somebody mentioned uh that they their
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hot water wasn't working this morning uh and I was like oh no and he was like just what you need in the middle of
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winter and um when anybody says middle of winter I always think there was like
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an old advert for like really like extra strong mints yeah it was like oh it's like dinner skipping in the Woodland
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winter and any time I say middle of winter I have to really think about it because I
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just want to go with limited but it just rolls off your tongue back there
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and then and then one of the other guys is like oh yeah I know that one he says oh it makes you dong tizzy
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[Laughter] the silver is so powerful about adverts
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because I still remember the phone number for cold set Windows oh you told me about it being quite an
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angry head didn't you oh oh there I since you bought one oh I want free yeah I've heard yeah Somebody went up to him
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in a club and was like I said your brother once I've got something like a wrestler coming guys something like that I mean
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you look side one I wasn't interested on another contrary thought so I said well I wish to trust like a long man did you
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ever see the I mean I saw it on TV once and I think it was on Talent on TV after that and then it was just on YouTube it
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was banned there was one I think it was Coastal Windows there's a woman in latex red latex and black painted fingernails
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just stroking people are sad about seductive way just like this is weird
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while we're in a broken ship just let them go and speak keeping their nails like that when she's fit in their windows
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and there's some they said yeah typing in band adverts is quite oh funny I remember there's a a condom advert and
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there's this kid just having a tantrum in a supermarket and he's throwing stuff on the floor because the dad's like no
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you can't put the sweets in the trolley and he just goes mental and he's just like looks off into the distance and
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it's just like and then it's like tourists
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and always brings me that photograph of when they chopped false hair shorts and
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cold oh yeah it only gives them that Stanley he gives them that rope he sort of stuff like yeah cool with the gums in
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it and then the uh um as he always walks out we'll go see you
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later I'm like those I'll see you later see you later mad by as he walks outside just as I shut the door here he's just
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go there's a friend from work don't wish any loud I mean look a bit
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disappointed if I forget so
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um I don't play chorus heresy but I do have this thing that I
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because I'm so ridiculously and you know if I was I can't give my death guard new vehicles yeah yeah yeah because if
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they're over is that all the ideas that wasn't allowed to be liners and the new laundry those just slightly freaked me out so and as you can get this one out
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with all of the same Weaponry as a stand of land radar to be fair though that's probably pretty law basil isn't it
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really I mean think about it I mean I spent like I'm getting me don't give me for wrong they don't just rock up to the
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new fetching it right let's just take there but there's the chaos
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the episode to me it just seems right that if they're if they're Armor's old then uh their arm is all then their
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armor is over is always well I I like that I feel that that makes sense like yeah it does to me yeah like maybe death
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guard wouldn't wouldn't go to uh you know a new Rhino Factory and you have to be like uh pardon me the address
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the idea everyone trying to beat their armor before they go away yeah or like maybe even like my Thrift points are
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ultimately gonna We attentive record I've decided it was a yeah yeah like I could could you I don't know paint it in
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like ultramarine colors then and then give it a death card um
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you know what I wanted it what just build that resin no they used to be immersion today yeah
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you know I remember getting old of a valkyrie I saved up for a valkyrie and
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the instructions was his wing here's the interior cockpit is it
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finished
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it's not like the paint instructions on the back of the box oh yeah that's the overall closer whilst it wasn't but yeah
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oh uh the remaining coaches most recent video oh we took the light Colette um
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color wheel CF um anyway and oh it was like five tips about picking color speed Warhammer Army
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and he picks up the um custodies uh
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uh combat Patrol yeah and it's just like no one's painting these in oregoma Gold they understand
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why don't space coating them I used to have to pick those colors at the back yeah I think I'm coming from remember
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because I've talked about stuff all the time I can't remember if I mentioned this on the previous podcast but back in the day when I was in the early burning
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team um Miniatures had their packaging team so the packaging team was Heavy Metal and villagers they're referred to as
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packaging plates but I think they prefer the type weapon Metals it became heavy metal again okay um but the packaging
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team used to do all the artwork for the front of the Box the photography and then all the stuff that goes on there yeah you know all the Spiel that you get
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on there this one is the the paste and they used to get a couple of them come up and go oh have you got an idea for Mr
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paints for this packet and it was more like just as a favor from Tom's titles we're already doing stuff for the Army
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yeah so like no doubt a couple of things and eventually became like a bit of a full-time job and I was like like yeah
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if I can't really do this because yeah I actually got an actual job to do yeah but yeah so for a time we were actually
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trying to go like base shade layer dry brush base coat shade yeah base coat the
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Highlight or whatever yeah I do yeah um but I think in the defensive Workshop the people that do actually probably
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aren't the hobbyists and they just go yeah Dad it was close that's old yeah and I think it's more of a suggestion as
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a bit but yeah really appears if you're doing packaging and you want that to be right yeah and as I remember like airfix
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right epic stickers or yes Revel or Italia they're very like Zelo or British
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soldier you get like a box of like 52 little plastic yeah 20 mil figures right you cut them off the sprue you're
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playing that's what I did you see Zulu War Zulu Warrior don't like them up they don't
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like him up at night and I am the zoologies have separate Spears and shields which was a nightmare fit in
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them all in the amazing it was great though because you still like throw the spears into the red coat they're like they'll die
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um there's fun they used to do all sorts of stuff but whatever sound effects are the same I don't know absolutely that's
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the point they used to actually have at the back of the box the colors that you used to be treatment then it'd be like fire engine red and for the trousers
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it'd be like royal blue okay yeah it'll be like dirt black and stuff like that yeah I knew what colors she'd need yeah
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because it's it's been referenced properly yeah black sauce like a good color what's that do a black oh that was
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something I did black or like dingy black or something yeah yeah old humble color
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um but but yeah I mean you know you'd go to your local hobby store and you find those paints and then look like they do
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on the box oh that's good uh whereas yeah I'm being an ultimately Bad Company hello I'm getting it right and also like
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every metal like you can't no no as I'm sure you found one life as I know you found in in your job as yeah a painting
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presenter for for marketing um and I can imagine that the current painters go through this as well yeah he said it's
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kind of like right that's what everything that looks like and if you if you go yes heavy metal please yeah how
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did you paint this okay well it's a 27 step process so it uses the mixing of 17
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paints yeah um wait no like you can't teach y'all to or leave a ninja point to
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the whole couple of shows on that yeah did one a while ago about death Gaza then he did one reason he comment about
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oh God God yeah and he did that campaign by the exactly man some I mean he made
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out of that someone on the inside to give him the Imperial Guard yes recipe yeah and it
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was with the percentages of what paints to go with what to blend with what he got yeah you know it was easy to buy a
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boxer just had the instructions there to do the paper and it was interesting like how to do the like I I have a lot of
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respect for ninja and how he uh as a YouTuber like packages up his video yeah um because he was like it was a video on
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how to paint um the standard say standard book like box art Canadian yeah Trooper yeah but
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he was like you know this is how heavy metal they Miniatures and it's that in the other and I was like I'm never gonna
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paint Acadian in like those standard things but it was it was interesting deal it was interesting having the base coat and then mixing it
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down and mixing it up and and all that sort of stuff and and they don't use this is something oh yeah we talked
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about a little bit before I think is how like they don't use washes right sometimes they don't even use title
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Cutters that use whatever I don't know that was that was the rumor I know back in the day and I remember chatting
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someone and it was like it kind of it's mainly used to be Citadel colors apart from the metallics so as a
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similar words that were painting I had a couple of Staff who were very fond of Leo Silvers or what um yeah well just
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crumbling or like I'm gonna paint a black or they said you have a nibble like a cup is better than this I'm like
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cool I don't care yeah you're using Circle yeah because that's what we sell yeah um and certainly if it was like for
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an arm and it was speed based I wasn't that bothered because you know like say we've got like tight deadlines and stuff if it meant that they were saving enough
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time to do an extra unit by using these colors that wasn't that bothered yeah but when it came to paint guides like
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the stage by stages it yes had to be sitting yes otherwise in Lion yes and you can't you can't always say hey this
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black covered in one coat and it covers in like three or four not that I bet damn this is the thing that I always found so
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granted we we use other colors now like AK we've been using all the things we've been using Vallejo Pro grills to find
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that yeah and I'm finding like unlike the white the here I like that gold there yeah but I'm so used to using
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workshops paints for 20 plus years yeah that you become accustomed to that yeah you know the property you know what the
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Kevin can't do and I have never struggled with speed yeah you could argue that quality might
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suffer with like some of the whites because they're quite chalky but again it's just about mixing it in yeah but yeah so I know that um sometimes just
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for better end results that they probably use other company Banks out there and
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yeah then rightly as it was um I remember or it was the first concept contrasts we
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had a load of the guys attend like a thing it was like an event and we were talking through like different colors
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and stuff and I'll say you know rectal ROM is probably one of the best goals out there yeah at that time where he still is nowaday yeah
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um but then they're like saying to the guy who runs the product Department like your wife's rubbish it's snaf and it's
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like he took that boy because it's like well these guys use every white available out there in the market so yeah we need to look up making our way
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better then yeah um so you know it's good that you can get these people that use all these
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different colors and go this is the best kind of white out there this is the best kind of black out there yeah your Gold's fine yeah this red side so you know what
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I found really interesting about because we have like the suitcase of AKA yes um hashtag not sponsored I bought it
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yeah um they did send us some other stuff but they didn't have to send us a paintings because you already have them
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um one thing I liked about them was they have like a range of like single pigment hates
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um but in loads of the different colors so I think they're called like intense color or something like that they have like a yellow yeah is that like the
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label on this and yeah um and that's really cool so like some of the Reds there's like a red that single pigment a black and a white
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um I think that's a cool way of doing it I think I'm sure like every company could have the best
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everything or like something must get in the way like I imagine with GW it'd be
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like no because that paint would have to be 325 that one would be 270 that one would
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have to be 385 because we have to have this much markup and they're like right well put 5p less pigment in it and then
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it can be all be the same Progressive um and then you have that crap paint well I remember they'll try them with recipe to armor because you get two tops
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of metallics you get like metallic flat ones and then like put Less in metallics I feel less metallic some more in layer
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thanks because yeah cover every black particularly well so like origami for instance yes it's more of a thing that when we did the Crusaders video it's
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more as a layer over the gold yes to add that extra bit of spangle and yeah yeah
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um whereas recipe I remember one of the guys I'll call him the paint scientist because that's kind
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of what it was yeah it is um and then I think they were trying to do a mix of both so it was like it covered really well but still had all
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the uh the pearlescent Flex I can't remember what the science behind it and I'm sure someone out there that know the
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list can like you know drop it in the comments but they tried to do like a mix and the two and they had like a a note
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sent out to and then of the chemical reaction and they've all there must have been a build up a pressure inside the parts and they came back after weekend
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there was just gold all up on my head and they just kept open and stuff like that so it was like oh wow so sometimes
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like you know trying to get the best of both worlds actually won't work yeah yeah
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because is it white has to be a bigger pigment it's um why is larger than black
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yeah black yeah so the way um I remember they were like talking about sprays and some black black sprays versus white spray but you don't like corex white was
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enough white yeah I see is an off-white yeah it's the it was explained like if you get a load of like golf balls put
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them into a jar then that's white spray yeah if you get a load of marbles probably to a jar that's black spray oh
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interesting and however if you put a bit of black with white see then it fills again it fills the Gap so that was the
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ideas it was meant to I never had an issue with corex one I heard so many people talk about correct white covering really Frosty and textured and it was
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really fuzzy yeah I was I had to move under characters in Minecraft XY I've never I've never released it I I've only
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sprayed white scarf yeah and I was sad when growing white left because although the pot still exists which hap has its
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downside sometimes because it becomes your your part is like what I heard a Grail of like chorus White uh I don't
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know what he's just terrible some of the like colors and games yeah remember one of my old colleagues used to call pallid
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witch flesh palette witch chalk
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color for the face of my dalak yeah and if you really give it a really good
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rattle it's it's not bad to be fair but it's probably one of the best Pilots which washes around in a while I
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generally think and again this is just you know conjectures and there's no fact is it's just from experience of Music
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System things for so long I I do feel that a lot of the uh the colors I used to use a lot are have changed and have
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become a bit thinner so I got a flesh um used to be a certain tone of this
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sort of like dense sort of trakari kind of Flesh yeah and it's a lot more
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there's a bit more Readiness to it now than what it used to be so yeah like pale quite sort of um
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Stone sort of off-white Stone kind of tune yeah whereas now it's got a bit more reminisce but if it's separated it
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looks like porridge and I Shake It Up loads it looks yeah so I've actually got an original pot still because I've got a
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six-pack and yeah just been working out a lot well yeah I thought I'd buy a six-pack of it and get
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together whole time and all that so colors I use a lot like that like that with some washes some like yeah certain
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base 30 tons I always just get like a bulk of them yeah um I've still got some of the old ones
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and I look at them they're so different in tone so so different and it's like Smooth it looks like milkshake yeah
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thick milkshake yeah I'm sorry where's the new stuff looks like separated porridge it's you know like you get like
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um curdled yeah it's like coagulated yeah yeah it's just horrid it just they're not the same paint anymore so
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I've been thinned down or they'll just change the recipe or what but so we're not too impressive we're saying you're saying we need to start like a make
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Rucker flesh great again yes movement yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know I don't know if we should
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when you formulated null oil yeah yeah it will shun anyone that starts then
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make no oil great again fight them in the Stroud yes I'm doing my neck and I I have this gum
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two skin tone nice which is rakoffish thindale with gullible flesh in the topic because the coast coming flesh
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then tied it back up Rebecca and familiar yeah and then maybe I'd do one more glaze and put them in and then I
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just I'd eventually use two it's your highlights are a bit too see the highlights a bit too started you may see in some of the videos God of Refreshers
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changed rack off flesh has changed so why skin tones are looking Kaka Illuminati that's a better I was about
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to say something really rude but uh my internal police was like no there's children possibly watching okay
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so yeah I don't know what's going on I don't know if it's just like to change supplies or they're just different
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um I heard a rumor uh that like chaos black um was like that was the old black then
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with her black like when I was a kid and I painted it went first like models
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the people that produce that are now like Army painter or something like that for the factory whatever so when I heard
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this I don't know again knows truth isn't it but I know that some other pain completely took yeah and yes those well
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whether it was a sign saw the uh the colors yeah yeah and then um when we
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um we when Workshop um basically brought out the color arranged I've just
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represented it um we went with a different actually same way I can't really please
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just start you know conditioning it yeah so that they you can never leave
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[Laughter] I just called that just in time that's
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all over the cameras well yeah so that or something because we're very different but I'll unbox it I've used
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them loads and I'm very familiar with yes and yes when you get a bit of a change it's like oh so I wasn't too keen
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on the shades when they changed but actually there they are better for what they do yes um because they they don't
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sit on the the flat areas then run into the cracks which is the purpose of the shade yeah slightly tone the surface
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yeah but they're pretty good no nowhere near as much as I'm a big fan of the new shades big fan of all the tones of
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contrast just some of the beige paints that's all I couldn't see over there I've changed them at all yes and I guess I'll just have to adapt to change change
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is the constant apparently yeah the feature is now what man
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when the viewers unfortunate or how easy would it have been to chop that off look at that why is it simple locks would you
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want to join a faster yeah it's a good gluing bit maybe those things that I'd like to go that's got
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thinking it's a bit of spare written all over it done anyway yeah look at that do you feel like
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there's a person you explain it part of that is too easy would it have been to put put back together
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how easy would it have been to chop that rivet off
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could you see if you turn it back to look at you inside I'm showing it to the the camera but there's a tiny one of the
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rivets is literally I could point if you want yeah on the center points well it would have been so easy to have just
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gone oh that's a little bit of oh my God yeah so if you're not paid essentially you could simply I could
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just live though nothing worse than a half oh God not worse you know not so to see it yeah oh wow
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and then this tank um you looked at the Box yeah and it didn't stop but talk about flipping on a
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box how did how did they film on a box yeah they flipped on a box because they
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should um they show transference that's not on the ship I'm not constantly vary from those shown on the books oh it's
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fine
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to be honest I've never back in retail sometimes you'd have like scenery sets that just came in the cinema but the
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show figures on it oh yeah and they have to say figures yeah but it was so small
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it was like I think it ended up being like there was probably some content yeah legalities that they're eventually
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startling anymore right yeah and then you notice it's just a scenery I think sometimes like with like certain kids
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they might show them but it's like really sort of obvious that it's just a scenery set but yeah yeah I remember that being a bit of an issue where
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parents are coming where the figures my son brought these I know that they're quit it just comes to Syria well it shows them on it otherwise does yeah
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just hang on a separamole okay this microscope to show you where it says
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yeah it can be misleading I can I can appreciate that yeah all plastic glue yeah certainly use the blast I uh I was
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up with no not a plus that you were super committed I used to be uh passive all the time and then that um because I
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get carried away and don't always follow the instructions that then once it's cleared on it's welded I'm like getting
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yeah oh no it's an event tonight I'm like super glue is uh YouTube groupies because I
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like the tips of my fingers I like to wait online stuff remember yourself fingerprints so I think I guess um from
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building because we see resin kits a lot yeah yeah in the openings the Plastics were available and
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and when I'm building Plastics because I'm always like you have to make sure it's a nice cut it's like and fits perfectly once you've got that super
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lady finger it acts as a shield for it so when I'm like they were changing the
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blade as we always found whenever you change the blade obviously you've got to put a lot less pressure on this time because it's not yeah cutting sorry but
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he's like oh I I built my first photo pressing case that happened oh last week
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as I was I said you were just they used to put for our viewers there was just this night of just oh on our WhatsApp
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group of just pure resin based anxiety yeah yeah
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[Laughter]
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like all my fingers together um I was carving away bits of resin so I
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was building the not the telemon Dreadnought but the custodians ones it was like the smaller it's a Gladys with
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the so I feel idea the cotton they can't remember one of them sounds like Hercules but it's not yeah um and yeah
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building some of them and they have this you put the head on and they have like this big slab that goes on top yeah um
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and you look on the photo website and you're like oh it fits perfectly um both of the ones that I had were just
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that now here's a massive Gap yeah um and here I am just being like I didn't study for this test
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[Laughter] um cutting loads of holes in my fingers and in the end I just gave up Ponte on
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the field of Pacific yeah yeah the super glue is good so you hidable shoes yeah it is black and you know and we were all
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grown into Old Man territory here but obviously with you being relatively new to the Hobby pack yeah well back in the
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day when you had a super glue multi-part metal Miniatures together you are
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obviously you go yep yep you get it and he and you go and that's it that's it
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done and then you just move your hand away and come away and they're just beyond your phone with it yeah a bit for me so many things are
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just weren't designed yes so yeah the two ever goes together are my favorite of them all and you probably have to
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deal with you with one do you remember when all the do you remember when all of them external bolsoms were all metal Mandrell Crusade
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oh yeah yeah yeah that the only way it's against the wall yeah the hurricane Bolton's sister they were two baltus
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with a feet and a drum magazine and a flat like um uh oblong sort of sleep
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drum magazine so they they went like that feed around the back and then the the magazine after that that they went
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into the album feed okay race right today they went into all connected to a
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plastic kit and the weight just was marvelous yeah like the sponsors
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yeah it did another one they did a massive big chunky multi-malto that went
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on the plastic on the plastic strut than a plastic storm bolster should have gone on for the Gunner and it had a full
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metal shield rather as well it just wasn't going on that wasn't there every one of them I ever seen was just
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pointing down that sounds so totalitating so so there's an experience of being in retail say that's bad enough
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as you're a knobby but then when you get every customer every week coming in with like that kit for going what's going on
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so it is like this is hell yeah so I've got them up for myself and that was enough but now I feel comfortable I've
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got to do it for this long crap list yeah yeah yeah and it is Dad and then rub out red and support and then they'll
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pick it up and go this is great breathe on it and it'll fall down one of my favorite things I don't know what to do
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with metal bands I I would like to recreate it there's no it goes to show sometimes that we I think the
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instructions are much clearer now but it it was I it's gonna be one of those
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memories that go that goes to the grave and I I always tickle about it there was no no sort of insult towards the young
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hobbyists that tried to build this kit it just it made my it made my life see you in this thing so
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um they got a graph tank I know they did tell a lie they got a wave surfing kit the wave serving kit
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had am I a million a wave serpent is an eldari vehicle and only an extra capacity at the back at the time it was
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very much the same it is the same shape as a graph tank yeah but you could build a graph by the graph tank separately
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yeah which has all the rules and instructions how to build a graph technical you get the wave serpent which has the same instructions the graph tag
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but also as a wave serpent instructions as well so you could hold it as both period to why you'd pay for a wave
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Circle yeah so I suppose evidence only separate instructions the first car was how to
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build a Gruff tank and then the next part was yet how to build a wave Serpent and most of the start of that is
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following the grav tank build yeah building up the biz so this kid has obviously started
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building the gruff tank and continued building the graph tank I got to the end I just went I've got this
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troop sort of like it was like a plastic so it wasn't a large greater capacity yeah basically it was like a thing that
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slotted in the back and all that other bitsy added to it but yeah basically it had this massive chunk of plastic and I had no idea what to do with it so what
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he did was he got this really Sleek like an elder vehicle and then just clued on the top
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my graft tank doesn't look right can you help us that just that's not a pregnant that that is so that is so not right
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what I'm gonna do is we get one off the shelf and I'm gonna build it for you oh I helped him build it basically and as I
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say I could see where he went wrong you followed this path it shook something I was like yeah yeah so this is for the graph tank what would you do is rip them
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off didn't them let's let's build the wave separate ones so sometimes the instructory guards could be hugely
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misleaded yeah now if it was like it was this the box that said graph tank slash wave Serpent and it was like follow
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these steps to build this which is what they do now yes and then stop Do you want to build this one or this one and
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then you slip to a page wherever to continue building it is this day and it'll go to this page to do this variant
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yeah it's a lot clearer these days but yeah just seeing this like really Sleek out diary vehicle is massive lump of
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like plastic I just I think I'll build a graph tank and show you what it looked like because it was yeah it was amazing
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uh we we kept it as a as a thing in the office just like oh when you gave the
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lads like a new one yeah that was always the case I think I said you can keep if you're out too it's like no I don't want
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that I'm sorry is that a way of getting like free
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Warhammer just like fulfilled it terribly if One Direction but help me
29:41
to go they'll never thought to pop through my brain or anything I mean I would like to say that that's still a
29:47
thing now and I think it is but it certainly it was a you're paying a lot money for plastic kits yet if you're
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younger you struggled or even as a parent I mean we have like dads coming into school I'm really struggling with I don't know don't know what to do you
29:58
yeah sit down and just talk through how you'd go about building it the the first most complicated Village I ever built uh
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for but was the one where I really feel tested was when back right back in the day before my team 99 maybe when they
30:11
brought the what was the new land radar out here that was I remember that yesterday and there was like we actually
30:18
covered in the last of band let's try to keep it all together oh criking yeah yeah I I do remember a dad coming in and
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he was like probably my age now or cocky like winning boost with his with his I think
30:30
eight or seven year old he was like what about me for your Bulldog I was like no what because I'll be a bulldog I was
30:36
like a bulldog ah there again that that rock is in order because he was like yeah that Bulldog Barrel that does his
30:43
sick thing I was like yeah yeah yeah the whole bug with a picture there's a big metal and it's all metal apart from the
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wings which are plastic and the early ones were all metal Winters around the end but um I was like oh is it for yourself because it's like no somebody
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kills up whoa I was like it's it's 40 quid it's all metal and you need to pin
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all the wings on it needs green stuff there and you need to Super yeah there's quite a complicated case
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um so I probably won't recommend it I will just suddenly was like seven it's very bright for his age I think he'll cope I'm like because so he goes and
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grabs it Scott was a kid's birthday money I I have a kid I understand kids yeah and you don't want to be like no
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you can't be good yeah so the dad gets the key he puts on he got right which is outside because I've gone so I'm giving
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you money as a psych see against a five pound [ __ ] five okay cool I'll tell that I guess 10 pounder goes four and
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we're like oh God this is good if you're struggling to count this oh no he's here and you can see the Dad's face I go oh
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my I'm not my kid car count and now I feel stuck up at least throwing bright for his egg wait he's very breakfast I
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mean we all said about kilos so you're basically paid for it
31:52
I went away I'm no word of a lie the very next day the dad comes back on his head he goes can I get can I get refund
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on this I was and it was like half bill and I was like I did tell you yeah yeah I watched and you ignored me yeah but
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because we believe in good customer service I will refund you yeah and he was like thanks mate and we just
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refunded I was like if you see yourself then Clues oh we can teach it and stuff like that but yeah it's too young to be
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in the store tonight yeah yeah I said they want to learn some skills we can talk yeah and stuff but if this this is
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this plastic kids would you like come as they are yeah that's perfect look
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I'm building loads of my custodies um and I want to have cool bases so I've stuck them all on Cork and I should like
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pin them probably because Cork's not like you could rip it off quite easily bad guy I think if he super glue to core
32:53
yes we're generally all right there's gonna be I mean I do this I'm enough super good to cook and I've knocked it it's cut off a little bit because yeah
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and back I'll decide we're like all in there um but yeah build the building the photo stuff is interesting like like
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because plastically used to it and it's kind of like it because everything's so light usually it sticks on and the
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working time is quite um like it sticks on straight away but you
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can wiggle it around again yeah and it's generally fine and then but then like the um with this thing like sticking on
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its arm is in like five parts yeah um because you've got all of this mobility and this is wonderful and you can do
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this and now I'm just like desperately try and hold everything together to try and get a decent pose
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and then I have to stop pulling my hands away and I'm like I know everything's stuck too yeah like you're saying I'll
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say oh and then I finished it and I was like hated that
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right and but obviously it's gonna be resin because it's cost effective yeah we get that yeah
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um but it's the good side of it I mean I use super glue a lot and like maybe a bit opinion but there's always that kind of like expertise I will die because it
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holds longer but they're all done you've got like one should mix the two bits together you've got five minutes yeah how did you actually you have to do like
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a bit at a time she's like oh I'm gonna build the body and right yes it just sets really quick I mean it sets it
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doesn't properly cure for like 24 hours so it sets you in like five minutes once you mix the two together because the
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camera version and then it gets quite hard because I've done it where I'm like trying to do things like oh my God I can't even get it off now it's good I
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have to get some more yeah but yeah for it to pop on cure it's like 24 hours but yeah I mean
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we've actual that [ __ ] about finecast I I'd always felt I'm not for the customers that they had to learn how to
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sculpt yeah those little speed lines coming out of there because I know V's here but never
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item thankfully I was off I was out the hobby when flying cast started and died so yeah I've not been I've obviously I
34:51
still are out they're still kids so yeah no I really I think I've I've got a few fine cast kits I don't know
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unfortunately uh because there was um they re-released him in plastic now and I bought him but he's like a
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oh the the zinc guy uh Sigma and he's got like flowers Village the cursing
35:09
yeah yeah and meet the arm talks and yeah and how's it so mouthing server and I was like I remember looking pretty
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much other Games Workshop when I was interviewing I was like oh that's a really cool miniature I'd really like that and I think it looked awesome and
35:22
then when I left I was like oh my discount's gonna run out I'll buy it and then it turned up and it was fine cast and I was like wishing it did that yeah
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and then they released the new plastic and then it's to call it failed [ __ ] yeah yeah it's Emerson but fine
35:37
remember there's another problem as well was it like Summons of white people put build them and then put them on there
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there yeah them on their windowsill yeah I was displayed by images
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back before the um the museum had changed me but then some of the lights in there it was super hot still but
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they've been like they read because we we I said we used to always dab stuff like heavy metal Runners would always
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have been resin before we came stick but like the dragon its wings would just melt in the museum and then just see
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after the hairdryer to it again that reshape the lower reshale then yeah yeah it was it was just that's pop and that's
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why you know resin is cool and cheap as it is yeah the downside I mean I had my
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favorite Undead carrots which is a guy called Krell who's like an undead chaos Warrior and he hanged around this guy
36:24
called Heinrich Himmler and he's like a necromancer um and he I loved his model resin one
36:30
even though it was fine cast I still liked it and his ax just kept bending and breaking to the point where I just
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got so sick and tired I was a sight anymore as much as the rest of it looks
36:42
cool it's just relax it's just yeah and it's a very special ax I can't remember always slip his corner like the black axis a lot of black acts of Corel I
36:48
think it's rather even like where we uh just go also swap it out from yeah yeah we've pinned it abrasive and they just
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put it just looked like he was it was like Timmy Mallet with like a
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story was always just flopping around we all have that problem but I feel typed
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and sound adjustable constantly [Laughter] um
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um it's just a bit where you go believe it or not believe about viewers react so you have a subject yeah
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you were saying in the iron painting team you had resin yeah um whitening your Plastics what's going
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on there so uh Plastics takes a long time to make yeah obviously not only have you got to like do what you can and
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you you're 3D designing yeah then got because I used to be sometimes get again so these meters are like let's say it
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was dwarfs like the new dwarf Plastics were being done yeah when I said the new dwarf places at that time that's like 10 years back yeah
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um so like the iron Breakers and stuff like that they'll be like meetings you'll have like a heavy metal painting there and I'll be painting there the
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sculpture in there an artist in there the right the rules writer in there and then the guy from Tool in who would come
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along with like a printout of the sprue and go look we've tried fitting all these hens on you know we can't quite get this on so they're still like
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working on the tool as we're painting the armies so all right okay so so a
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miniature has been designed yeah because I know I like I know from my time there I remember the first time going into the
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photography studio Pat was like look then squats that's the biggest secret in Games Workshop right now you know I was
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like all right
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um so yeah but then they didn't come out until probably over a year like almost a
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year and a half sometimes higher yeah a year and a half to see since the photos have been taken and obviously they've been painted up by heavy metal which
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takes a whole chunk of time as well yeah so yeah tell me about that process someone
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to know about it so you obviously get designer that designs it yep uh so it's all right on a computer down like them
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so it's on this golden yeah and goes I decree this now this next bit is still magic to me yeah and it's still a bit
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alluded to all I remember is there was stuff on the screen and then a guy down
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in uh Miniatures who did a lot of the Buster molded Mo jokes he used to be in there between Master molding would have
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this red sort of like glass sort of print out okay like the parts
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and you'll be putting those in these Master molds suit up like these silicon why you won't even be silicone but you'd
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get like let's say you got like resin chunks you'd be like doing like little bits of resin chunks you know glue this
39:36
thing on it and then go and you get another bit of glue this on it lay him down and then you have like a box and you'd like pour this silicon mold stuff
39:43
in it which then makes the moldy then cuts the mold yeah opens it up yeah takes these glass bits up which then becomes the moles to yeah get resins
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made so it's all very still a processor I don't know 100 but yeah this red glass
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thing was a 3D printed thing yeah it literally will just like build it all up
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so they'd have like all the information I guess from CAD yeah that the computer design stuff yeah and then so well on
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the line there was a guy that would just like have a machine and they're just what they I guess they call grow it they
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used to I used to remember yeah we're just gonna we've got to wait for the minute to be grown um so just sit there like basically I
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guess 3D print this thing yeah then either loose heads so the whole Spruce like grown so like yeah heads are loose
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and so yeah the sculpt has an idea of how he wants to break it down yep obviously they've had conversations with
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like tooling yeah and they've like looked at like how it fits on the sprue but then there was a time when it was
40:36
physical see it up like this um single miniature sprue medium sprue tank spread all these different sizes of
40:43
spring cloth um and you because it's in boxes so it's a very structured sort of
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like this is a clamp-act brew this is a small sprue this is a medium sprue yeah it's a tank spray yeah
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um so you know what boxes they'll go in you know what how many of those screws you can fit in so if you have like
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um that's this one for instance it probably like fits three sprues and that Bob set so they know how much room they've got to play with
41:09
um and then sometimes you have to make bespoke boxes for certain kids yes but so I remember something somebody's like
41:14
telling me that um you know what what obviously in the design at game store shop is fantastic I think the ninjas are great but you said
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the real magic is how they get all of that oh yeah into the sprue and that's even now it's still yeah it's still
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merging all I can say is like you know a guy would create it someone would magically
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basically make out of thin air yeah with this red stuff James would go off and like make molds so like the heavy metal
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painters have got some bit of paint yeah because it because the mold is still being made they're still mold for like maybe yeah Plastics yeah still being
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designed and that's yeah what takes because that is such a long process yeah uh and even then like like Harlequin was
41:54
a great example we'd get like loads of resins of harlequins and the molds are changing the bake as well would only last six or eight pause yeah like
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residents of course we have to make a new master mold yeah and if we're doing an army of them in every motherboard you
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don't like a bunch oh yeah you're gonna get two or three good casts I know the rest are gonna be pretty in the bike
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pretty dark yeah but you could work around it and stuff with the harlequins as a great example was we were we
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painted up four different collections for these how to paint Army books as well as like the Codex so we did like
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three four different masks they're called as the main box art wand which we added to made our own like extra bits
42:31
and yeah used their Metal characters for some of the shops and there's like three other ones to be made up and then the odd color buried as well so we would
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already work out beforehand before Jones did cast these things how many models were leaned okay yeah he has an idea of
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how many how many piece cast in and he's like dude leave cats and that's wasted time trip if he does like yeah 50 pulls
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and we only use 20 yeah this day um so he'd work out roughly how much you need and it would be there building them
42:57
all up and oh my God you just get a bag of resin they're in stupid yes but yeah said luckily if you if you timed it
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right you'd have like one of the packaging guys that worked on the instructions have you got a PDF done yet we're like not quite we're working on it
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still but also would test work would they be so I guess because I remember on
43:13
the death guard sprue it's their um one that goes like from his left foot and it's just like a bit of a leg a thin bit
43:20
of his back and then he's got his head on yeah like you wouldn't have those parts in resin would you yes you would sometimes yeah because that was designed
43:27
as a push bit figure oh so good get the resins as push fit as well so I I I had
43:32
the resins for the very first Boxer which had death God versus Marie yeah um and you know check the belt off the
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guy which I'm alluded to in the in a previous part again yeah just because I did it for myself and I was like speed painting system but yeah you wear as
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close as you can yeah they would usually mimic the sprue oh right uh but it was but even then like James he would like
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go these two bits are separate but I'll give them together and cast them as well because it's just easy for you guys it's just yeah because it was really hard for
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him to actually make the mold of that because yeah he's not trying to replicate the plastic sprue as such yeah
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he's trying to make it easy so they yeah build with yeah it feels like a teeny tiny like I don't know Einstein that
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went on a gun yeah that's really hard to to pour and make on a little mold saying
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it's like well glue this thing up to that yes and then that's a solid thing then they can make a whole world of that
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then so with the other time when that would happen but yeah the harlequins um so we've done the Army and it was
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like probably a week or two after we it's either a week or two after all like a week or two are into the project so
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you know there's lots of a plates be installed at the same time lower part is going off remember that one of the guys
44:39
coming along going there's a load of masks because the Harlequin would have like the back of the head it would be
44:44
flaps you have like a plume or a bit of a mohawk and then yeah put the face plate on so they have like a variety of
44:50
different faceplates see kind of like a bit of a me a mishmash and there was about 12 I think or 15 on on the sprue
44:57
and the starting was like We'll have to remove three of them because they won't film The sprue and but like because
45:03
obviously it wasn't the spirit at this point we just said but we had a resin yep um and we're like okay let's see if it would go through and as chance would
45:10
have it about 50 of our models had the wrong heads on so there was one another one would make whatever so sometimes you
45:17
can get away with getting content to pay for the boxes we know we had a joke about the start but yeah for the most part if like 50 of your army is got
45:23
heads that don't exist it will never exist yeah you need to slip them off oh that's a bad Talent yeah
45:29
I think the worst kit I ever had and luckily you were next to scoop to the time so this is even before the instructions were out they'd have like a
45:35
bit of a sprue print out on their screen that gets out through the print yeah and then sit with you and go oh this bit
45:40
goes there this bit goes there so sometimes there's a bit of that's all to the actual sculptor but there is someone called the health lay which is a slash
45:47
demon lawn mower yeah different builds when you get like a chariot you can have like a slightly bigger build all like
45:52
this huge you get like two kits worth yeah it's just loads of blades and then
45:58
like a sort of a a chassis for like a chariot with more blades and like some steeds and all I
46:04
got was a bag of these Throne stars for a bit of wood Tina tied me up with friends but I'm just going to say that
46:10
sounds like a pain in the oven but they all fit in a set way no you said you were there like I mean
46:16
like what did you see was like Ping level up late all that and then a lot of it was test fitted yeah um the best kit
46:21
that I've ever built I mean I took ages luckily Seb was helping me out like yeah this is yeah it goes there if you notice
46:27
these blades go that way they've got this thing on this side so they're they're on the left side these ones are the opposite there on the right side and
46:33
they get like a bit bigger and a bit smaller and a bit bigger and a bit smaller now but okay so we'd laid them all out breathe it off like a printable
46:39
all the bits that I'd place them all this pretty yeah yeah I've had a bit of an idea of how it works so that was great but the best one ever did was Ray
46:46
dranfield who I think now he's down in their Forge World specialist games guide and he did the purple son of zeros
46:53
there's like some uh actual physical magic that they made um it was called my importance and for aegisigma they made
47:00
like actual physical magical spells which would do a thing in the game and there's one called the purple son of
47:05
zerus and what he did was he I know I didn't have the instructions of this but I had the plastic but for some reason
47:10
I've called funny instructions and it was so well designed that you literally made this Frame but it goes a on one bit
47:17
and B on the event and another piece would be B and yeah so B goes to B okay and then there'll be a panel it looks
47:23
like a broken egg shell yeah it'll be like a I'm like a even like oh so a goes there and literally all you do is
47:30
following the letters yeah connected all the letters together and it was like yeah I had that on
47:37
um or the the four drill kit so you take some uh like plastic custodies but you put resin arms in the big gun on them
47:43
yeah yeah and that had like a b a b no it's dead the worst bit is but they put them on with resin you get like a chunky
47:49
like thing and it will like go a one a two and C1 scene two she clipped them
47:55
off yes there's no number yeah whereas a lot of them nowadays they're actually doing
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the inside yeah but the flat bit of the old is or whatever so you can see it but yeah we should take them off it's like
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yeah is that C1 or C3 oh so am I am I learning uh that all of the Miniatures
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that um heavy metal pain and quite a lot that
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the Army paint is playing for all just made not designed but like maybe we'd buy one guy
48:26
uh yeah yeah of well actually no it's probably more say Mark Jones would do most of the um the miniature space yeah
48:33
what it's down in villages um and because the capacity at the time the early painters we needed so much
48:39
stuff doing yes we end up getting the molding was a great thing for a room the mold route we also go to the molded
48:44
ourselves Bank his head the guys involving would do a lot of stuff for like yeah Forge World and like them like
48:51
a lot of the metal casts yeah stuff at the time um uh there was a guy there called Peter
48:56
and he would work alongside us and he'd come up and do like extra cast Sports and stuff so I might do like one or two
49:02
I've got a couple of Casper yeah and if you had spare time and he had spare resin yeah I did pour a few extra in
49:07
we've just done like a form like I made like it was sort of Google spreadsheet which was like how many we need and how
49:14
many have already got and how many is left and outstanding yeah so Mark and Peter could see how much more we still
49:19
needed or whatever but sometimes we go we've got some spares do you need any spares he's like you know what Calderon
49:24
in case like a saw breaks or an old rat or one yeah well we get told that all the heads are wrong we have to rip them
49:29
off and replace them so yeah but yeah there was a guy down the boardroom who would do a lot of that as well uh Peter
49:34
I don't know why we started calling him Strider I don't know why let's just come to the Limit
49:40
I clad that stuff in yeah that's so good striker
49:46
I don't know why to this Snappy yeah I've come up we used to chats him loads but he was a great guy I
49:52
mean he was doing a big one green felt coat no no I didn't yeah no man I think you look like me Edward still with the
49:59
opposite it wasn't tall he wasn't like 87 yeah the other night I don't know
50:04
I've been married to an alphabet now yeah but yeah he was a great guy I like pizza I think he's still there now but yeah
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Mark Jones uh no pretty much yeah and it's a job he enjoys doing he I think he likes the
50:16
problem solvent of how he makes the yeah yeah and his casts and stuff like that oh that's really cool no space racing
50:21
but yeah 3D printed because I've seen like um oh I think it was on the when the
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chaos um like War 140k chaos chosen were released and there was a guy with um a
50:36
big ax or it was it was like the upgrades yes two and guilty he was like
50:41
the kill scene yeah and one of them was like hey you can take you know is the base build but you can give him this big ax thing and people are like zooming in
50:48
putting the red circle on and being like I can see 3D print lines yeah um but I feel like you've called well
50:54
that's it because it's always marketed as we got you yeah um and Games Workshop never say we 3D print stuff because they
51:04
never say we jumped but they never say we don't yeah because if they did say I get the impression if they did say like we through you printed this part up then
51:11
everyone would jump on it and be like case workshops over so you could just 3D print stuff and it's just as good
51:16
quality and and like the pritz we got through uh recently from we put oh yeah.com
51:22
um like even just getting them out of the bag and these massive shoulder podrants completely smooth yeah it's all
51:30
no yeah I was so impressed there they are I mean we've got like a bunch of DnD things from John with him yeah we should
51:36
be oh no everyone said everyone's kicking off about DD now oh well then yeah why what's God for DB
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um they don't like Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro okay because they are
52:05
um like there's a oh crikey was it um there's a meme of someone that's about to be hanged and
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someone looks at him and goes like first time oh so yes I've been singing last about the words yeah right so and
52:18
there's lots of crossovers so essentially uh which is the coast Hasbro are clamping down on their IP a bit
52:25
right now and um because they they have I don't think they are people for being creative and like making Fano kind of look around
52:32
could I chip in on it in a second it used to be um it was like an open gaming yeah yeah
52:37
basically you know like Ninja on again it's a great example you go there's this guy that he's a budgie that's a pirate
52:45
you know I didn't go there and he go and so-and-so and Miniatures has made them and you go and he comes with all of his
52:51
stats for Dungeons and Dragons yeah they give I'm fifth edition yeah yeah they go for him and now that's like oh we're so
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so it's kind of like you you can still do it but if you make over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
53:04
I think from your album your Endeavor you have to give them 25 royalties
53:09
um so it's kind of like if you're an individual I don't think it will affect you you know
53:15
um because I mean maybe maybe layered all these designers on patreon that are running
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Mega Bucks every month and then which like Fair plays up um so they've had a meeting and gone D
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D's insanely popular why aren't we making as much money out of it as we could be yeah uh oh it's because we've
53:33
said all these third-part companies can kind of do whatever they want we're going to change that now but I so so
53:40
yeah we have doctors and Dragons as a as a set of rules that's been around for a long time right yeah for a long time
53:45
they didn't make up elves and dwarves and goblins and horse did they no so is it because people are putting Dungeons
53:51
and Dragons rules with thing or is it because they're making a goblin or a Cobalt no no no no so so I
53:57
think it's kind of like um sort of like Crystal roll uh he's only an example like yeah they do actual
54:05
like little live play like um yeah kind of like podcasts that could say that if
54:10
they're making money from that and they and they may and a heck of a lot of money and they have an animated show on
54:15
Amazon yeah which is amazed here um God forbid that they're you know like really promoting D things yeah
54:24
because they house if they have official d d books maybe they're making d d look cool yes
54:29
I think critical role um like arguably I'm I'm more into D
54:35
than I am Warhammer yeah um like through lockdown we did a campaign with my mates
54:40
and on Lake zoom and stuff um and it was amazing and got into listening to critical role of it started
54:47
getting in because it's me I'm stupid um like the kind of there's one called dungeons in dad East can I um which is
54:55
And the tagline is not a BDSM podcast it's so funny because that's where my
55:01
brainer means yeah yeah and that is uh a champ of like X YouTube frame called
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Freddy one and um and he did loads of gaming like good use and and that kind of thing
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um and they're so fun set up so fun um and that's why I think I really like neck one day um from what we've been doing it because
55:18
it got like narrative Basics and all that sort of stuff but yeah so I was like yes we finally got these miniature series we want to do like a habit an
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adventuring pump and then it's like oh no Deborah Hayes did you know did they just say yeah
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is they always gets me this thing of like you know many moons ago it was this
55:37
whole thing was me that and you'll remember it four drills used to release Imperial Armor books and then and they go here's
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a turret that that you can put on an Imperial Guard Chimera that's double this or whatever like it's twin
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McDonald's just you know ripped from here and they'll describe it and the Italian
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how many points it was and tell you what it did but they never made it they just told you that you could have
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one and then what happened was another company oh right yes we'll make them and then games Rachel oh yeah stealing our
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stuff yeah and then you put the bit of at the end of it was as you think ultimately you still gotta go and buy a bloody Chimera it's a book of bloody
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tourist spot to put thing on all right yeah you could maybe take it off one you already own but that's generally not likely what happens people go and buy
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another kit so they were getting upset that another company was making the thing they'd written about but never made a model of yeah and then that it
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was a strong like you know that and 65 sets of people who bought that sort would probably wander off the game's
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wedge up and buy another time time to put it all yeah you know what I mean on the book because and that's because
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yeah yeah you know that just shoot myself in the fox yeah I'm buying myself
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a new shoe
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I'm also in the US that prompted all the change to like this is a dude
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I mean I was going back in years now yeah that's and that's what that whole kit thing was wrong was like the bed the
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American as far as I haven't stunned it and somebody can put me right there from wrong but I am talking for mild folklore
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knowledge of it was yeah like the judge went were rulered in favor of Games Workshop like you can't do this but at
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the same point in time Games Workshop if you're gonna write about a model you got to make the model yes yeah yeah you know
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what I mean yeah maybe like things like them I think it was chapped out said like uh different aspect Warriors and
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they just looked very similar but they weren't identical yeah and I remember like a bunch of the
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um I'm not going to go to all the details but I remember like a bunch of the designers and stuff would have to go
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to court and explain whilst theirs is unique uh yeah because you have to have like so many different yeah yeah and I
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remember there was a time where we weren't allowed to have any other like books I'd like Osprey books and I've known people I'd like just random like I
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got Star Wars coming lake or like Star Wars book and stuff like that like on your desk somebody guessed it was like that we had to remove everything because
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that could influence because they would say well yours is influence from Star Wars and stuff for your design is even though
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it wasn't it was just a book I read at lunchtime well we all know more on the 40 000 isn't influenced by
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June at all do you know Starship Troopers no because the starter Troopers I always referred to it up Sister
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warlock in 2000 BD mobile no no Gothic medieval one real world was inspired by
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you know the Medieval World yet lots of like tropes I didn't get into a show
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back a day it sold it was the UK distributor for does yeah yeah yeah yeah so I mean I'm when like I'm looking back
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at my old Publications I've got an old sort of uh Warhammer fantasy role play army book Wonder it was one of the
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fantasy battle but it was very role players yeah you could even like take tests for being drunk that's that's how I love it but it's like oh have you know
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the night before let's find out yes they did yeah there's some Games Workshop as well as if they they would do the same
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sorts of things to some degree was the fact they made they used to make a rule book for playing a game set in a while
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West yeah yeah oh yeah one did like Soul hell boys old west they did great War because
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David and Ali did Great War Miniatures and they used a lot of their Miniatures in the books the other whole section
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which was warham historical I thought why was that sharp died no idea but yeah in days of War Hammer
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um like when the Perrys were like 16 17 when they were working for Workshop yeah you know they were uh War Gamers so they
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had like Agincourt French and Asian core British yeah and they were like well use those
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as protonians uh I mean for a lot of it like early days it was like using stuff they already had painted and then
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started doing the Subscribe yeah that's called like yeah orbs and stuff so a lot
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of it was early days photography The only days playing was just using historical story give it a head swap
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yeah um yeah and counts out so like the Empire that's why the Empire very sort of land snake sort of uh Century it was
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more you know 17 1700s 1500s 1600s kind of style yeah uniforms where it's like
1:00:04
the britannians are very much the Knights of old yeah yeah imagine course still I feel like we're sort of
1:00:10
like at a point with these kind of like d d like Warhammer that the companies yes they're in Heavenly inspired by each
1:00:19
other and other source material but it's gotten to a point now with copyright law or not such stuff like that so like nope
1:00:24
this is us and defense mode yeah yeah which like no I can understand from a
1:00:31
certain degree because if they don't is it if they don't um protect their IP then it kind of goes
1:00:36
probably the main sort of thing if you can I guess so yeah people still have the best yeah yeah I mean yeah we've
1:00:42
seen that weird and I remember um where people would actually start copying Workshop stuff as in like they
1:00:49
were making molds of Workshop stuff over in their own homes and then fill in them
1:00:54
with plaster yeah um and you know selling them on eBay and stuff like a plaster of Paris dreading
1:01:00
yeah yeah I mean I I remember having a mom coming and I bought these off eBay they just don't feel right can you help
1:01:06
me out I was like yeah these are plastic casts that yeah yeah for a Dodgers site don't go to that site again yeah
1:01:12
um literally with like some ring race it was a ring Rush said it was just like they're all just like they've obviously got like a two-part molding yeah so
1:01:19
they're just yeah plaster the absolute Scholars but you know where there's like a fun
1:01:26
hobby there's always gonna miss all that takes advantages yeah and trying to make something yeah yeah I mean it comes
1:01:31
everywhere always belongs to the top as well [Laughter] and slippers floats the top mate you
1:01:39
don't wish you can do about it yeah go to a different moment all right because yeah people talk about recasting or like
1:01:46
um I watched a video about somebody 3D printing they got images where the new Cadia stance box yes announced
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um I can't remember the name of the chat but um it he did a video about
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um can he print Cadia stands from the images uh and paint it before the box is released
1:02:08
um and he did some interviews with like he didn't design the Miniatures himself but he found people that did and put
1:02:14
them online and these with these designers he was like so why did you decide to do this and and one of them
1:02:21
was just like I like money yeah yeah because people are going to go light game is very adjusted off one of
1:02:27
the cheaper yeah let's do that yeah um if somebody will remain me myself or maybe one here but I know somebody who
1:02:33
bought uh what's the thing the add McFly around the owner oh yeah all this stuff
1:02:39
oh yeah yeah you've bought one of them from uh from a Japanese mother in China I wanted to end up it turned up with two
1:02:47
left Wings nice right they just keep getting the same time
1:02:52
it turns up with uh Freaks and it's a break the greatest bit of marketing ever
1:02:59
was attention to that frequently got in touch with the the Chinese Chapel he said my plane will stand up but it's got two
1:03:07
left Wings he says can you send me another one I'll watch the Chinese chapstick yeah I'll stick it in with you
1:03:12
next door
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what makes you holding you right wait until around soon but
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um what I'll say and we talked about this previously and it doesn't make it right but the Chinese chap is is custom
1:03:31
things at Games Workshop don't make anymore yeah not God designed me cast lots of things against my job still make
1:03:38
yeah but then lots of things the games were actually got rid of oh like this signature I don't I mean
1:03:45
the website in question you have showed me before yes I helped and the Jeff showed me naughty websites yeah
1:03:52
it's my favorite pastime oh yeah the hobby right yeah
1:03:57
you know no matter what people say um from their website there is some very very sexy looking sheep
1:04:04
then what's going on Miranda I feel a little comfortable just tapping into uh uh
1:04:10
I'll stop that [Laughter] hey girls yeah you can get recasts for
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like half of us there's something Bob on the show he was talking about 3D printing stuff and yeah I definitely
1:04:25
think it's going to be something that everyone has to yes to look at him yeah it's the future and yeah
1:04:30
um we've seen like with John and we print Miniatures the quality because they don't sell STL files they sell the
1:04:37
actual print Champions they they want to control the quality yeah
1:04:42
um so they're not going hey it's a digital fighter then you print it outside it doesn't look like that because you've got enough printer yeah we'll get a good print yeah and we'll
1:04:48
send you the actual Finance but the Thai it's a great go between ideas you've got your own 3D printer great good one yeah
1:04:54
and if you have happened I mean I've got uh I'm looking to making a six scale
1:05:00
eventually Noble uh and a needs at the moment I've got um a Tuscan Raider a
1:05:05
psycho rifle at the moment as his as his Alaskan um but there's a guy I know who has made
1:05:11
some digital files of alaskans and not pistols and he was like I've sent you he sent me Dropbox with the STL files yeah
1:05:17
I just need to find a printer yeah someone who might be able to
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um do that for you yeah yeah cool but yeah so I mean I want to make this there's a guy in China
1:05:30
was a company called greenwolf I don't think they're still called Greenwood for the change today but they
1:05:35
um I've never seen it I've been after it for ages and I never saw it on sale but they did the sixth scale Canadian
1:05:48
looking at greenwolf it's still like not available I remember that yeah and it's
1:05:53
like they got asking the last pistols and they have holsters they have extra mags and stuff like that which is why I love like taking the Maga and put them
1:05:58
here baby do they do um like joy toy or no they all do these were like these
1:06:04
were like in cloth they were like oh but like oh right so actually a bad stuff yeah you see my my action figures I've
1:06:10
got the large scale was it's basically that um and uh greenwolf have done that they've all they've done like a lot of
1:06:15
Modern Warfare style kits and like they do like sets of like I don't know honey badger machine guns and like vector
1:06:22
Chris's and stuff like that all the different types of machines you can get they've all like got loads of mags and loads of eye insights into attachments
1:06:28
classic classic piece of Internet history apologies for interrupting have you ever seen the the
1:06:33
somebody's taking documentary footage of a honey badger and there's like a very Camp gentleman talking over the top of
1:06:39
it because honey badgers are just like vicious and this guy's just like honey badger
1:06:46
doesn't care honey badger fish brilliant and show it to you after yeah please do yeah but yeah I mean you know
1:06:54
I've I've wanted to get that three different so it's about I want there to be a shot I'll go down to get I've got these files could you print those out
1:07:00
for us yeah yeah no they're like I would say you know like the old you know yes yes um there's a 3D printer place in in
1:07:06
Nottingham since they say yeah yeah I think John Wright I think it is I think bg3 oh Johnny rose look at these did
1:07:12
lots of art equivalent stuff yeah I think we still I think so yeah because I think it will like I would
1:07:19
I like the idea of having a 3D printer we don't have here absolutely don't have
1:07:26
the space oh yeah absolutely and from watching found that chaps video about printing the Cadian Army that was again
1:07:33
about how we packaged this video because it got a ton of views he did really really well and deservedly so because I
1:07:39
watched a half an hour video about calibrating 3D printers to certain kinds
1:07:46
of resin yeah but um it's a hobby that's a right three yeah yeah and and for the majority of the time maybe we've printed
1:07:52
these little cones out and making sure that they all touched each other and yeah the other news just like the cones
1:07:57
of calibration um I was just like I don't have the time for that yeah no well I saw a yeah on
1:08:03
Etsy there's a guy who does all 3D printing it was like Star Wars stuff it was like some Star Wars 3 and he does like Star Wars vehicles and he got like
1:08:11
League speeder you got like TIE fighter you got like the Tie Fighter interior oh right and I was like that looks cool you
1:08:17
got the Millennium Falcon interior and it's like do you want it as one to eight tube scale which isn't which one I think is the joy toy stuff yeah would you like
1:08:24
it a one to twelve scale which is like kind of backside would you like it one six would you like your one to one as a picture of a lance an actual land speed
1:08:31
consoles guarded I was sorry I was just gonna try and make a joke about open your wallet and make do it one to one
1:08:38
someone stuck hard over it so it was like a land speed in the garden just right right the Millennium Falcon one to
1:08:44
one yeah I bet you could yeah but you could see yeah which is a one 3D printer
1:08:50
it'll be ready in 10 years and inside the pan with a gray and it's
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yeah I mean it's like that gray sort of stuff that you get when you get the threading like resin or whatever but yeah I mean
1:09:01
it is the future and you know it'll be it'll be it'll be interesting to see where if Workshop goes with down that
1:09:06
route well they've got upgrade sets and stuff that are three I don't know how they're gonna go They're gonna have to at some point in try and giving up yeah
1:09:12
you know they might not give in for 10 years they might give it in five years I don't know but I think I think what Bob
1:09:19
was talking about um when we treated him and Bob was saying you should games where chop needs
1:09:24
to basically Harper like a bike 3D printers and you're going to buy the fair shots yeah and then you come back
1:09:29
later that day if you're lucky or the next day yeah this thing it makes sense because you don't own the STL Workshop
1:09:35
owns this still you're just getting a physical print out while flying upgrade you should go basically going there go I'd like a box of Dark Angels and they
1:09:41
go well we won't they won't be a box available until tomorrow afternoon you go okay yeah I'll show them back on the spot so it's exactly the same thing
1:09:47
because this is why all those in the warehouse so probably like before I was
1:09:52
manager with Stephen Austin painter they had a massive sort of overhaul off the
1:09:58
um and on the museum what you call it just store it big stories in Factory where
1:10:03
you store with Warehouse words I was I just had a complete blank then as well I
1:10:10
was just like these same words but I'm not gonna help well it could happen was a name for a lunch box just called it a sandwich
1:10:16
suitcase sandwich suitcase are like right I know what you mean yeah so they're sort of a
1:10:22
terrible habits of calling I've called them Airport Station
1:10:27
we had a bad issue with like a storage because the semi-like metal components yet you know every single no well let's
1:10:34
just say much they have to have an overhaul which is why things became made to order so they still had the molds but
1:10:40
they just didn't have them in stock anymore so you'd go to the store and go can I get this head can I get that on oh
1:10:45
there was one of the happiest days and while I got it got so reduced to the point that there was this does not
1:10:50
existence where having all that stuff digital yeah and then being able to just
1:10:57
go to a shop and go until the other printed out yes sure yeah in an hour can I have a kid in a bit yeah we'll go back
1:11:03
come back tomorrow oh I can say well it's not I've been said not a warehouse just full of it is the yeah because you
1:11:08
go because there's probably only 15 000 people at any point in time one that particular upgrade spring yeah yeah I
1:11:16
mean I'm not suggesting you do it for every single blob of the thing no but you know they could I mean they could but what else you said by time
1:11:27
as you said that time did the GC looks upgrades Brew for 13 year Garden to into
1:11:33
uh Jesse um he did that in a day didn't it was a
1:11:38
day or two it was a real good turnaround it was like I remember talking to him and saying yeah it'll be really cool to have like other upgrades was like
1:11:43
merging hence and Talon heads and they said any other normal volume well some people bum so there's no point tool in
1:11:49
it but actually this is like 3D print is the perfect place for that yeah well you know if it takes you like a day to
1:11:55
sculpt 10 morning heads and then yeah and photo around in the cloud and yeah and then those that want them can bring
1:12:00
them out and it might be 20 people but all it's done is it's taken someone to
1:12:05
cover it out with a design cost yes so well it's 20 people who then Really Love
1:12:11
Games Workshop for doing that but also 20 people are just gonna buy 10 because if they're doing an awesome lot they're
1:12:16
going to buy like a bit of a d yeah so yeah absolutely right um I don't know if we talked about this poor so it does designed an upgrades
1:12:23
through in Z yeah I'll I'll tell if it was a day it was a day or two it was a quick tour so the gene silica upgrade
1:12:29
set which was then became a comeback on its own yeah um it was put into things
1:12:34
like a sentinel Chimera and Lima Ross and Acadian box at the time and to turn all those into Gene cine
1:12:41
courses because you had the brood infantry which was yeah because yeah so I remember we used only Peters we
1:12:46
painted the box packaging stuff for that yeah helped out yeah so because we did the death watch the uh blood angels and
1:12:52
and the cheese and Cool Stuff um because it was just like I don't know if he just did it because he could or
1:12:57
yeah he was just like I'm military I'll cover the reasons for him yeah yeah but it didn't take it I remember him saying
1:13:03
it didn't take him very long to do and it was either a couple of days or a day it was it was very quick for hair because all you've got is like 10 12
1:13:09
heads on there and a nail of like pouches yeah pouches yeah tiger and if you've got like a GC they're called Head
1:13:15
already in place what what you do yeah I didn't like some gold on yeah I didn't yeah I'm asking me yeah make the cream a
1:13:21
bit bigger old war yes but you know what I mean but like saying
1:13:28
especially if you think that if you play genes too well to pad that I play genes to call for lots of ways to
1:13:33
play but it's generally unavoidably quite a heavy Infantry great sorts of army yeah and you know um
1:13:41
you play quite you can play quite a lot of Imperial guards in it yeah that's the thing it does is an amazing personality
1:13:47
really because he could paint really well quite fast yeah yeah and you can sculpt quite well he's been um I feel
1:13:53
like he's been building his YouTube dancing and he's cooking no
1:14:28
[Laughter]
1:14:45
upgrades through whilst riding a dolphin before we go back to dad there's something that always made me laugh like
1:14:51
near the studio when it was like the design series which are Miniatures and Painters and everybody in it like the
1:14:57
rules writers yeah there was the gents toilets bought four cubicles a couple of urinals although a good temperature zone
1:15:03
cubicle attributes I think the parries that definitely had a favorite cubicle or at least the sculpted it because there's
1:15:09
always green stuff on the floor on the walls so they go for a poo and they're just there
1:15:17
skunked you while stabbing a pig that is next level Madness
1:15:22
always is like at least two cubicles that just have bits of green stuff on the floor but it just obviously wiped
1:15:27
off the knee They carried on a car that's something that's genius yes sir I
1:15:32
feel sorry for whoever it's like handle those molds afterwards yeah give him a washed me
1:15:38
um but yeah uh what was it Larry a couple of things what before Darren I think with the this 3D printing and how
1:15:44
quickly could Games Workshop I feel like on quick early adopters of Technology no
1:15:50
um I think they're well into their it and they're doing a big update or something like apparently they need it but like
1:15:57
everyone's been saying digital already rules for years uh and which they've still got books yeah and they do have
1:16:03
the digital rules but it's not like it's a bit of a weird system you have to and and they're dragging their feet with it because they make loads of money on
1:16:09
books oh yeah um and and apparently again rumors
1:16:15
um with with someone it was gonna go a while ago but then when like I'd like
1:16:21
maybe like when Kev Roundtree came in he was like no you we made this many millions on books we're gonna
1:16:28
keep doing books um and then it all got reintroduced um so I think they'll drag the feed with 3D printing and they'll
1:16:34
only change when they absolutely have to yeah yeah there's no options left um and then bye to Daz
1:16:40
been posting quite a bit on social media recently yeah and I'm amazed trying to increase this first off I mean he's got
1:16:45
a good profile already he's yeah it looks a little bit of a little bit of uh not uh only hands for dogs talking about
1:16:52
what he's actually sculpted without righteously yes yes I saw his first I
1:16:57
think his first post on like Warhammer 40K read it yes yeah and that kind of
1:17:02
thing because I know like when Duncan left he was like he still is the profile
1:17:07
picture of grim dank no it's like the Dank memes
1:17:13
um I mean I don't want to I mean I did that too far I built my profile a bit more
1:17:18
because I was a bit lazy with social media from yeah yeah it's like I had a twitch I didn't really tweet that much
1:17:23
on that Instagram every now and again I'd put a poster and a bit of that was I'd must have nailed it enough for painting and playing and that was during
1:17:30
yeah the Hiatus of me being sort of like down in the dorms yeah um but yeah you
1:17:35
know I can yeah I'm not well we should be at least what's the words uh projecting if he is
1:17:43
going to hurt me or not because I think he likes to do what he does yes well that's good for him if he doesn't Michael if I don't think Darren's going
1:17:48
anywhere no he does I think you know be really different I think does he do the light key up I think he also even could go out on his own oh well if your
1:17:55
grandchild's on his own it would be the entirely from Studios with that he would look oh yeah yeah he wouldn't be like but why why would you call it anything
1:18:01
else yeah yeah you know I mean yeah you can have a patreon house because oh he's what I think Kate's designer I don't
1:18:08
know he just deserve his heads yeah all right we've seen the sprue yeah they're
1:18:13
great yeah it's pretty good too all the lead design he just designs
1:18:23
wait
1:18:38
yeah um yeah I think he absolutely could could go out on his own as one of the guys to
1:18:44
ask the profile to do oh God yeah and then you would nail it but what you could paint the stuff he's made yeah
1:18:50
before too yeah you could literally be a one-man CDO but like if you always
1:18:56
like if you're designing stuff he he would he would design great stuff and that would look very similar to Workshop
1:19:02
because he's obviously been there for so long but like there's that that thing of
1:19:07
like um do you make your own game that people don't necessarily care about or to
1:19:13
do you say these could be proxies for for yeah for well the temple top games
1:19:19
um and that kind of thing so let me tell the story about a chaos Warrior painted so it's one of the probably the first
1:19:25
month I've turned up today in the studio and it was chaos Warriors so at the time of the demon plastic demon Prince of
1:19:31
that time came out and burgundy Knights that chaos Knights were new at the time as well this is not the newer versions
1:19:37
it's just like the previous Plastics and um he was doing color variants in the day so like night's all four sorry uh
1:19:45
keswarism for his idea knights was taking like in two days today and he was in that he was me Pace it was it was
1:19:52
lead heavy metal painting at the time oh crap and I remember he had done a chaos
1:19:57
Warrior and it was like a green tonight if I could find the book called Sean find the picture and you're done all the
1:20:03
armor on the chaos warrior with oh it was it was mad it was all the same skull shape and done was all free handed so on
1:20:10
the Army was like a skull yeah it was like a pattern of skulls across the armor he also developed the shield and
1:20:17
had seen it and he came back the next day and I was like oh where's I thought you didn't want audio it was like yeah I didn't like it so I planted over him he
1:20:24
looks better just on the shield I was like I feel like I could be like Darren
1:20:30
Darren Layton left heavy metal because he just completed painting yeah
1:20:37
I think he has like the original place there's some games you Platinum the yeah yeah he was like I've I've a hundred
1:20:42
percented painting there yes it's like in Skyrim isn't it he's at the top yeah
1:20:48
I've got to start a new game I'm gonna be a designer oh look at that I'm the lead designer at Games Workshop like
1:20:54
where can you go now or presenter designer painter yeah and then artists oh crikey if he got him well no because
1:21:00
Master Class master class is going only hands surely never know that was in like
1:21:05
it'd be his own presenter presenting oh three yeah yeah sorry yeah that'll be his next level I've got him on presenting level probably I'd say at the
1:21:12
moment because of this channel stuff he's done already it's quite yeah and I suspoken 50 percent 56 so he's just gone I'm about 40 to
1:21:19
build up before he completes presented yeah yeah
1:21:25
and let them be present would need just be him going hi I'm John Latham and the
1:21:30
guy said next you're good hi I'm Henry Cavill I feel like that and we've solved the world hunger I always remember someone saying that uh
1:21:38
when does and uh cover was there were quite big names in the studio went for their appraisals it would be like not
1:21:44
like Thief does so let's let's talk about everybody like I am Daryl even you
1:22:03
there's so many stories and and such an insight into the hobby oh yeah he's he's
1:22:08
such a positive guy I mean I remember he came over he was he was the first every metal page to come over and talk to me
1:22:15
um you made me feel welcome I've always got a lot of love for dads yeah uh sometimes you can come across the league but he's not he's just thinking yeah
1:22:22
just a bit deep thinker um but he's always been kind he's always been really helpful he's told there's a stuff like
1:22:27
yeah I was a time when I was painting an orc and I was struggling he was just like I'll talk to you about glaze and show you some glaze and show me how to
1:22:32
do glazing I mean I've never been dance levels of glazing for sure but he's always mesmerized by speed the speed of
1:22:37
that dude yeah absolutely yeah and he submarried well I did and like yeah absolute genius than what he did yeah
1:22:44
everything has its place exactly I remember him setting up as the um turn up as the young ladder I fly like no
1:22:51
yeah yeah but um I I used to play foreign
1:22:59
and it was literally like short getting a lot to start next week
1:23:06
and he come in and it was like at the minute he literally he was like it must have made like the minute he walked
1:23:11
through the door of his first night he was just obviously the cabinets have been empty to just come straight in there mate just put it straight they had
1:23:18
this beautiful beautiful uh special family really nice and it just run in the cabinet straight
1:23:25
away and he was lovely Mr friendly I've gone really well with him and the moment when
1:23:33
I I thought and I was bothering it but I I was a really young guy I was probably kicking nearly 30 by then and um I
1:23:40
painted their the very first Logan Grim knot
1:23:45
I had done a reasonably good job for my level of painting him and I've bottled
1:23:50
it on the face and I couldn't paint the whole thing was painted This Ginger fiery Ginger hair I'd given him and
1:23:57
everything I just this black face I know when you know one day listen to doubt I said you know people get really
1:24:02
tired when you tell each other could you could you better replace this place because I don't want to steer it you
1:24:07
know anyways and yeah you're getting swimming just rolled out like five or six like
1:24:13
flesh colors and brows and you just went right okay he went AB I never but I'm literally about 15 20 minutes
1:24:20
later there was a face she could have put a white too off they were bigger but he's on the lights I was like
1:24:26
do you still have that I love you never have to die jumped I sold the big space
1:24:31
so far sorry I was such a Shameless
1:24:36
salted Jeff Savory with ability yes
1:24:42
[Laughter] but it was lovely really really nice
1:24:48
yeah I was Mega Goods on it yeah and he was eating he's a really nice guy oh you know what it didn't stay there very long
1:24:53
time to the shop I'll put Warhammer well in
1:24:59
the end and then he went to a Warhammer World shop wasn't there very long and then it was maybe metal in it and then
1:25:04
he was uh so he did a little real Tick Tock of doing cables has a strap games
1:25:09
so the other night I've got Channel putting my ashes like Crimson Queens yeah all creams as I've been calling
1:25:15
them and I'll steal my eyes really stuck in my eyes off that didn't over here now and I can't remember why
1:25:21
at the time I was just like putting up and that that's enough again and he's just there just going straight straight
1:25:28
it's just like all right but we're winning those well [ __ ] brush
1:25:33
his pulse there's a few people that I watch when I really want to hate myself and Darren
1:25:39
left into one of them I think Richard Grayson oh yeah yeah it's a casual owner server with Richard
1:25:44
Gray yeah yes and what I did is I just stippled this bit
1:25:51
yeah so yeah we've got like an interesting I think it'll come out just shortly will be the next like tutorial
1:25:57
after this yeah uh on lots of different ways how to paint yellow yeah Richard Gray's and uh
1:26:03
wow I was just like interestingly that was the first one that Jeff picked up was it I was like oh I like that
1:26:10
so I think like we had our favorite to put then yeah yeah yeah it was it was interesting video it's almost yeah I I
1:26:16
learned a lot from that they research and stuff got a favorite yeah we had some fun filming it we did it we're not
1:26:23
gonna say say that for the film oh yeah yeah save it for the episode that was fun yeah
1:26:32
I've got beside Lewis so it's a reusable Stars
1:26:40
and um well I really like a child coming over
1:26:49
oh we need to tell you something really tear your body
1:26:55
oh and she's the form of the cosplayers are going to be buying or cerecy land
1:27:01
right is awesome the save of the head but yeah but awesome character never said anything never did yeah but it did
1:27:06
yeah but he did that great bit with the guard to be what he basically the guards were now going to try and stop the storm sorry I just went
1:27:14
the jamway button yeah well done good job and that's like where the not low bot but similar scene that guy running
1:27:20
with the ice cream um the ice cream maker yes yeah yeah and do you ever see a lot of the convictions
1:27:26
where there was like about that and they were all running the race but there's a
1:27:32
there's a guy as they evacuate Cloud City he's just basically like in an orange jumpsuit and he's carrying this
1:27:37
what looks like this big technical piece of equipment and he's running on somebody basically that's just an Ice Cream Mason but in its defense it became
1:27:46
more important to be because in mandalori because it was in the Mandalorian season 2 when the sheriff is
1:27:51
explaining yeah rubbing away from the tower then coming back he left with the loads of jewels of that thing yeah yeah
1:27:57
always to have all the best cars and I also our best style yeah I've always best car in it and he had one with yeah
1:28:02
something which he then traded with the Jowers to get there because an interview with Joe Favreau where they were like
1:28:07
you know we know the heritage of this we brought it back and so they call their cam turned it was already
1:28:14
yeah you can buy them as a figure running out screen carrying map yeah the actual carrying thing is called a
1:28:19
cameltoe yeah yeah yeah but I mean you can buy it they did there was a figure for a while that's pretty late at these
1:28:25
conventions they have a certain time where they all get together and like negative with their ice cream which is like
1:28:32
obviously somebody he said like um if you want to build oh yeah lightsabers here lightsabers you have to
1:28:39
get like a really old camera flash or something that's right yeah I remember that I remember read about it all of the
1:28:44
camera enthusiasts are really annoyed with Star Wars cosplayers because it's like they're they're trying to buy on
1:28:50
eBay it's like a wall this way like people want it for two very different I said no I wonder if it's like who are
1:28:56
all these kids like gritting on these retro ice cream mates
1:29:03
I have a 3D printer now you can just print uh yeah yeah but it's not the same
1:29:08
not the same no no not the same no I never realized the E11 Stone Stormtrooper Blaster obviously based off
1:29:13
the Sterling still in my head but it's windscreen wiper blades that's right never do that that's cheap
1:29:21
the good guy for that think his name is Jonathan something there's a dish does
1:29:28
he work for Alton glass I think they'd get you with screwd the
1:29:34
um he's one of the main curators of the Leeds Armory oh okay and he does um
1:29:40
I also does shows for Game Spot the uh the video game channel yeah and what he
1:29:45
does as our Mage he really knows his stuff he'll be going he'll be like we look up the games of Modern Warfare
1:29:54
and he'll go yeah that's pretty right but don't leave the reload's not right and if you look at the bullets so that
1:29:59
lights up and it's and he he will rarely take a time because he does that either the Star Wars episode I did make him
1:30:05
under hide guns they did all the guns and then he got him back and he did all the guns for a job typed yes yeah I
1:30:11
didn't no I think I think I saw that and yeah he's always had a suit with the T-shirt oh right yeah it's really cool
1:30:17
it goes to the Star Wars yeah he's in the Star Wars he did the Star Wars episode of girl and that's this and he's
1:30:23
a bit off that but yeah and I bet Darren Lathan could pull off a jacket and T-shirt oh I think so unless they just
1:30:29
pull them off probably go up or never even look him you know
1:30:35
what that does no that happened never I know what he looks like I think um what he would do because you'd see the
1:30:41
glow of gold behind him as he was walking around yeah no we we were sat down at big ones yeah just kind of like on a seawood they walked through it's
1:30:47
like oh my God there's God yeah well not far we haven't found voices
1:30:56
I mean yeah we've been going this is probably our longest podcast is an hour and 32 books wow that was probably call
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it the gym and bubbly shows so but yeah before we call it so we've got to run through prizes again
1:31:09
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1:31:20
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1:31:38
people have like John Adams this is really fun it's not as um yeah any and I feel like it's a nice supportive little
1:31:43
place in the world chats and it wasn't nice as well there's been a lot of times where people ask questions about painting and I want to buy every now and
1:31:50
again like oh I missed that was like a day ago and I started everyone's answered and helping them out but I try
1:31:55
like what a great Community yeah yeah no email I'll just go yeah not just go you
1:32:01
don't need me yeah that's right but it's not all about um we saw all about painting nice neat
1:32:08
there's a lot of things in some ways we I feel like it's like that many sheds thing I clean pits they're like it's
1:32:13
just a nice I'd enjoy it yeah I enjoy it so we we touched on our subject which was good we talked about the film a
1:32:19
little bit we'll give it a little give a little tickle yeah I have 3D printing which is what Aryan was wasn't it I'm kind of thing and with chords just right
1:32:25
out of everything else OMG games always actually the 3D print stuff oh we're all gaming news
1:32:31
yeah let's Workshop the title yeah or Worse on the top in the show I like him
1:32:38
King's worship hates 3D printing this game Games Workshop Its Own Worst Enemy
1:32:44
does Lathan the prime minister [Laughter] yes
1:32:51
I think he could write he could just run um like he's an independent and then
1:32:57
um and then princess government tells all the 3D printer they print his cabinet
1:33:04
that's if you say oh I'm left or right and you know you want to annoy a lot of people so if he's just like no I'm not
1:33:09
liberal conservative I'm just as and yeah all right man that is white so
1:33:15
white and then white when it comes to uh oh that's an old ad for them
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