Bad Habits, Tom Cruise, and Controversial Paints?!

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hello I'm Jeff and I'm Patrick how are you I'm all right how are you I'm all
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right thank you how are you at home hopefully all good or home or at work oh yes yeah we've been we've been reliably
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informed it's great I want to like I want to know where every everyone's listening oh yeah um we've been good as
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well because we have after people I would say telling us I'm going to border on
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saying rightfully harassing us we're up to date now on the podcasts aren't we oh
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hello all right B you're overed it that yeah we're up to date on Spotify uh so
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if you're listening to us on Spotify my apologies for so if you are listening to us on Spotify you've only got another
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two miles on that treadmill go for it yeah yeah yeah yeah somebody somebody said oh look behind you you dogs out a
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poo quick pick up I was just think of about all the people places might be listening to us
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Asos to watch watch out for that duck that was a bit left fi I like it
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though yeah why not okay yeah so wherever you are
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enjoying watching listening let us know yeah we've always geared it haven't we
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that it's while you're painting which is partly the name of the the reason for the name of the channel my my my thanks
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for people listening to this week is specifically only to people um that have was on in their car they've
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turned the volume up loud and just sort of put the phone on the passenger seat or something like that yeah which is generally how I do it I Jam mine I have
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AIT of jamming it between where the seat and the with that bit there yeah oh or
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special shout out to people who got this on really loud in the car with somebody who has no interest
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whatsoever every time I get in this car you got them two bloody idiots on talking about Toy Soldiers yes yeah am I
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going to get tips for painting on this podcast I would have thought so anyway
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talking of that what are we talking about this week you've written in a extensive list we we've made a little
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list someway as always uh which helps with the chaptering um which makes it more convenient for people to listen to
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um you have asked about the emperor children how soon for some additional chaos models Tom
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Cruz uh I've written down 4750 4750 oh that's a
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that's an interesting just little teaser of a thing that's it yeah I should have just said um I might just make the
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chapter the Yorkshire war cry how much um our painting bad habits and then
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whether you guys have any of yourselves yes and then um uh the the the GW
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Creator program has had some uh uh interesting going on there's been some
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mild waves yes they yeah yeah
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um which being on the outside of um is interesting so um certainly is how that
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might uh affect the creators that are involved oh bless you B oh dear oh dear oh dear so do you want to talk about EMP
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Children First yes oh only briefly obviously we all have seen the news that day go up for will be up for pre-order
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now as you watch this so we're recording it the week before um I think it's a really good box I like what's in it uh I
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think it's pretty cool um the thing I'm mostly interested in is we've been
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hovering a bit on when's that going to come out I'm getting the feeling that um from certain sources have said it as
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well and also as well to go are we going to have a bit of a rush now of uh as somebody who has a chaos Army we're
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going to have a little bit of a rush of um of uh releases for for codex's cuz
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you know we've got two more still in the wind yeah so uh all got three more still in the wind Haven we cuz this is Emperor
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children uh yeah Emperor children well eers haven't been done yeah thousand
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Sons haven't been done yet and deaths and then the interesting bit is how much are they going to get CU
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obviously Emperor children have been well well servest with this misses very
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SL roid rep hey have been well saved with this
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new box but then again they've been out in the they've been out in the wild for a very long time so they needed
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yeah whereas you know Emperor children um world eers last last Edition did
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quite well thousand Sons could probably do with a bit more love and you know and
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I have had this weird little rumor that maybe the Thousand Sons may have found
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uh one of the STC facilities and might be having men of iron they might have Robots coming oh interesting that' be
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quite cool some cha cuz that was um spoilers um for gauns ghosts but yeah
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B one or two wasn't it was I think oh KY what was it I can't remember if it was one or two I think it was one yeah they
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found they found a men of IRC yeah they found an STC I think we're all right for spoilers cuz I think that books about
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1999 or something um I think 20 years might be all right yes yes but later on I might
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tell people who who Luke Skywalker's dad is too soon yes yeah maybe too soon for
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them yes yeah they found an STC didn't they and um it was interesting in that one I think there was uh they mentioned
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how somebody somebody found an STC that makes better knives for Space Marines
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and then they were like that's amazing here's your own planet and I like that but I also go what do you meant to do
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with a planet that's a fair point yeah yeah and then what they're like this so
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much walking isn't he you can do really yes and then I wonder I wonder like whether they give you a role on said
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Planet oh yeah oh yeah maybe it's an established planet and they go you're now in charge and they go but my admin's
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awful yeah yeah if if they if they just if they said like right this is your planet by the way you're the planetary
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governor and this that and the other you got loads of money in a mansion have at it you be like woohoo um but if they
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were just like hey this planet's yours but then they just drop you off and then they say if there's already a population
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blah blah blah blah blah you be like this planet's mine like shut the [ __ ] up Steve like I yeah about Barbarian Planet
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your M within about 2 minutes of be in there you know yeah yeah yeah or a planet with nothing on it they go there
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you go you've got this massive ball it's basically The League District go oh now I'm you know I was I was in the guard
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and I was getting fed and now I'm banging Flint together to try and make a fire you know this herdwick sheep
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everywhere this might not have been as good to deal as I thought wish should never found that bloody knife machine
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exactly you know yeah so I don't know how good it would be but um yes so um
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and death guard eighth edition basically had an entirely new Range build for them
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and then in ninth Edition they got one miniature being the Lord of verance I
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think he was called and uh and that's it and we already know the one model that they going to get this yeah we've seen
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the one model you go go God hope it's not just that but it might be you go how
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many codexes can you there's a question tell us how many codexes can you go
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where you just get a Min ature before you go Ang on a minute come on M cuz
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this will be code this potentially could be codex number two for death guard of having one miniature yeah you know and
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you go you know they are creaking at the seams in certain areas the the death guard generally doing okay but certain
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areas where you think they could be doing with more love than that you know everything's Mega slow and you sort of
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go well everything's meant to be Mega slow other than the vehic the the the demon the demon engines because they're
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full of puss and they're not well and this Relentless wave sort of thing so I
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don't know I don't know you I just other version of pox Walkers would be nice you know you know some sort some other
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variant doesn't have to don't have to affect the Marines like if the rumors about thousand sons are true giving them
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some of the support elements would be cool but um yeah so how how many codexes could you go before
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you got a bit annoyed that your army was only getting blatantly token character just to take it over like had adeptus
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mechanicus happened to them they just got like a a character to tide them over I think sisters of battle did the same
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last time they just given them these token characters just to go you can't have a book without anything so we've
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got to yeah you know so what did Jean Steelers get this time Jean Steeler cult
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they got a big brained oh yes some big brained weirdo character I hav't look like a sort of like a deac thing yeah
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which I haven't yet bought um yeah so yeah so how much of that can you put up with before you go oh I'm getting a bit
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bored but me army is a bit dry you know yeah yeah so great stuff that EMP
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Emperor children are on the way I personally really like them won't be playing them but really like them um I
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have mixed feelings I prefer heresy uh emess children yeah which are really cool they are really cool um I tell you
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what I'd be tempted on to scratch the itch further down the line is if um I
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know they've not tried not to do specifics when it comes to the Marines as such but um of either flavor but if
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they did an emperor children kill team I'd be quite tempted yes that'd be quite cool um kill teams are really really
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really appeal to me at the minute um just great thoroughly enjoyed painting my Raptors and you know having oh I
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could pain there's there's this obscure thing I only have to do seven yeah absolutely it's great or up to like a
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maximum of like um I think the about the maximum I think I've seen is and you can Pro tell me wrong obviously haven't
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played against every kill team far from it but I think the maximum I think at the moment I've seen is Death code Creek it's about 14 oh okay and you'll want to
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take less than them because if you take less than them it triggers you another skill but if you if you Max them out you
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don't get access to it but if you take less than you me to a bit like rattlings but if you don't take the augin you get
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access to all strategems but if you do you don't so yeah um yeah I'd be quite tempted to do some uh bright prank emper
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children if they uh if they did them as a kill team that'd be kind of cool oh you people watching will probably go
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well you can go and buy buy the legionaries and just turn and yeah you're true it's true you can do yeah um
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but yeah or just yeah whichever way around you want to do but so yeah I'd like to um I'd like to see what's next I
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will be I feel like I'm disappointed in advance that I feel like I know the death cards are just going to get that
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one guy I hope I'm wrong yeah I really hope I'm wrong could really do like a heavy weapon squad or some bikers or
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something but um yeah so but I think now going to be a bit of a run on isn't it that will I think it'll be I wouldn't be
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surprised if it's chaos bite at the heels of chaos now for a little while yeah yeah which is fine then do you
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think we'll get Space walls at adepticon oh do I think space walls will get announced at adepticon that end of
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March yeah oh that well I think is it end of March early April yeah end of March yeah late yeah late March oh I'm
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not going this year and I really enjoyed it last year really liked it but new year new year new location i' be maybe
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like to Milwaukee I'd like to maybe see what people say about it before uh all I know
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about Milwaukee is the film basball was set there which I've never even seen and
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the basketball team was called the Milwaukee beers um I like the sounds them and uh I
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don't know how you know what I I I want to stop short of saying oh it's an amazing film when I was a young teenager
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I thought it was hilarious because it was made by the South Park gr yeah yeah um I don't know how well it's t Parker
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Mone yes yeah yeah um you know the one in talking just going off that I seen
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the other day was uh and I thought would I still enjoy this as much as I although I was an adles let's be said when I did
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see it originally B thought I seen it flick up somewhere the other day and I thought oh I might need to rewatch
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dodgeball I haven't seen it in quite a while and I remember finding it extraordinarily funny when I yeah I I I
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really liked it I think I think um some of uh patches ohola hands um if you can
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dodge a spanny you can dodge a ball like one or two of his sentences perhaps aren't quite as probably weren't PC then
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definitely not anymore um um but I I think the uh Ben still is still amazing
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oh yeah um and he's just like yeah like nobody makes me bleed my own blood Michelle yeah it's amazing maybe
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need to watch I might need to watch that again Ben Stiller in that film is hilarious yeah um and he's great just at
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the end [ __ ] Chuck Norris um like that was that and Anchor Man were
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essentially like before memes existed we just throw around quotes from dodgeball and anchor man that's I was always um
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majorly a big one for throwaway quotes from um from SPAC yes yeah yeah because
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which is just if you I'm sure most of you have seen spaced if you haven't I think it's all available on Channel 4 on
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demand you know the amount of times I love that you know now for I'm going to have a I'm going to have a paint of I'm
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going to have a paint of the black St you can't drink a Bine of Bal brilant and oh the amount of times I say
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to people skip to the end um yeah dangerous yeah if you haven't seen space please go and give it a look and and you
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know what it's 1990s British C British comedy but it's because so much of it is
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ingrained in science fiction and superheroes and all the rest I just don't think it's Dayton I don't think
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there's nothing in it where you know people go you wouldn't get away with making that now I don't think there's virally anything in space where you
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think oh that would be a bit dodgy no I think it's all really uh been
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really well thought out even at the time yeah so yes so back to it um are we now
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going to have a bit of a run of chaos and how little can you put up with aen
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this basically is basically where I'm going to put that I think yeah yeah we'll see what happens e yeah yeah um oh
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yeah sorry no adepticon um I think we'll definitely see Kil te yeah new interesting ones the moment
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and yes I am going to S after you mentioned the chapter Master valch yes I am sing that you know more than I do
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which is not but he seems to think that they reckon that it's going to be called blood and
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Zeal oh okay after brutal in cunning yeah Bloods and
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Zeal next will have that be sausage and chips is it all going to be like something something yes I I think I
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think I saw that that same video yeah so does it does it mean blood angels or whatever I'll leave all the speculations
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so he's like blood he seems to think blood is mean corn of some flavor yeah
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and Zeal is potentially something Space Marines and he seems to think grey Knights be a good way of bringing grey
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Knights into here's my Val conspiracy um he knows exactly what it is he's just drip
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feeding oh yeah oh yeah we've said this before he's already got he's already got the 11th Edition box yeah uh well the
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11th Edition rules already you know you know what it's like yeah
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um but yeah so I think we'll see that uh whether we'll see space worlds I don't
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know I think we might cuz it's only it's we're banging on the door of March now
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anyway I think we might see the next chaos release or two personally for me and I would like to see Space Wolves
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this summer new addition of heresy I think has to be a must yeah CU that is going to be released this year so um I
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can't believe that it will be like 11th Edition next year I know feels like five
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it's I mean it's over you know what I I don't think I've finished painting the stard veterans from the last
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one still think i' about two or three them left to pain I could maybe do with a year could
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just push it back another year maybe but um yeah I hope with 11th they don't
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batter the rules again I'd like to see them I would imagine all being well at the some of the the changes they've made
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in 10 Edition rules will just I'd like to see the next rule book be a tweak
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things I'd like to see see come back I'd like to see more Point costs on weapons and things I'd like to see it a little bit more not being so set in stone what
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everything is yeah although I have like the lack of thinking with regards to Army building but I think um I think
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Army building is almost part of the art of playing the game for a lot of people not for thick people like me but yeah so
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um yeah so I think that will be from a 40K standpoint I think kill
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team um which will actually unless kill team really follows very quickly on the heels of that that will make Kil team
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quite late cuz Kil team's trying to be like every 3 months or so isn't it meant to be like four a year I think so and we
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had one in December yeah so if we go December to January so like because it was the Saturday before Christmas so
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January February March April so it's still going to by the time it comes out it's going to at
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the very earliest is going to be like a month after it's announced so it's running a little bit later so we'll
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um we'll see kill team is the one I'm probably most interested in finding out what's coming out I am well ke for for
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kilty because I already feel like I've opened me Christmas present early when it comes to death guard yeah yeah I I
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really want the uh orc like tank Busters saw great Min I saw a is it what was it
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brutal and cunning yeah or not Brut like um brutal and tiny people yeah yeah
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brutal and cunning yeah rattling rattlings and yeah they shouldn't be long out till they're out or I saw in
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element games in not they still had a box um and I I uh regret not buying it
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just but I haven't even painted my night Lords that I bought yet so well for people who are saying that they can't get hold of things and yes this is
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specifically a little bit people who lived in Nottingham I've seen Brut and cunning in the Wilds which was at our
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friends and yours element games and I seen and I talk about this Mecca of
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hobbying frequently yeah Boys in Arnold Nottingham had a hive storm box the day
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there's also in Nottingham a a new boys that's opened up in beaston and um and
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are they a 4er it replaced a Warhammer supplier yes they do yeah to the point where my uh my girlfriend she she went
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in cuz I was like we walked past it I think they beast and did like a a light night where they have some people with
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glowy things on and go woo um can't believe missed that I know it's amazing
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um there was some music that was good um I always find there's only so many drumming band that you can listen to
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like we listened to one and it was Burns night as well and they they were drumming and there was a guy with bag pipes we like cool and we walked maybe
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100 meters down the street and then there was another one and we're like well it's a slightly different vibe of drumming still in four four days like
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that street we walked out in Vegas had three concerts on you could do the last concert as you approach the next one
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yeah so um yes yes uh if anyone wants a discount version of uh Las Vegas go to
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beaston on burns night um say it's it's far more middle class you won't find any
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half naked fake nuns oh that's a shame they were great so um so there we go you
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know what what more can we ask for so anyway there's a boys and I walk past it and said oh Jeff says they sell quite a
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lot of Warhammer um and she went in and took a picture of of the stuff that they have um they're really well stocked too
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because they they sell uh all the color Forge range loads of aljo paint humel paints bits of uh things for airbrushes
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I went in the other day and went in to get two pots of paint I'll get to wire
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both them but particularly WBO them in a bit and um and then when I was in there
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and came out also with a bottle of Alo flow improver oh wonderful um I was in a
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Hobbycraft recently uh we went down to see some friends in Kent and the hotel we're staying at had a Hobbycraft like
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right next door I thought you going to say in I was going to say that's an interesting cross yeah so um you you
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have to you have to sew your own dubet before you go to
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bed yeah a small shop that sells chocolate mids to putt on your own pillow yes um and I remember seeing that
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they they stock Warhammer now and and I've gone to the Hobbycraft in Nottingham quite a lot because they have
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the um they have a lot of the Tamia stuff they have all of the Tamia paints and like if you get but they don't have
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Warhammer they do now oh have they cuz they used to and then stopped oh did they and now must have gone back to it
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cuz yeah us they've been big into like their air fixes and air fix kits and all
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that sort of stuff um there I've got loads of spirits and oil paints and all
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that sort of stuff there because there's a crossover there but now they have a GW rack um wonder how that came back to be
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because like I say they stopped yeah it was always very basic yes yes so they have a rack of GW paints it's not the
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full rack um they have a few they have some starter sets it's full price so if
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you're going to get into it you're way better off um going going to element or
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another uh hobby shop because they usually run them at a discount so um but it's getting Warhammer in front of a
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wider audience which is always good yeah but boys is well priced as well they're 20 they run 20% off they're really
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they're really reasonable so yes I've seen a high storm in the wild and I've also seen a Brut and Conor still on the
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Shelf in element games in Nottingham so yeah and they they had um death cor crew boxes left as well oh
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excellent there you go um so that was that was quite sping cool so that's what I think with regards to adepticon and uh
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and local stores yes we somehow started off with 's children yeah go but that's that's
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yeah the the Tamia paints as well like they're I think they're like 260 in yeah they're really well priced Tamia in yeah
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and I remember I think I I went into element games because flat white is the one that generally is always out of
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stock I remember really really wanting some and uh going on to Amazon to get it you have to pay like a Fiverr or
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something like that well you probably can in Hobby Hobbycraft just go can when can you order some of that in for me and
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pH me when it's presume so yeah yeah yeah would imagine it's a sort of stop shop that has to do a lot of ordering
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per customer cuz such a wide range of things within the hobby that people will probably want yeah yeah I I think um
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because I mean they always sell stuff at retail price Hobbycraft is quite expensive um but uh Tamia's relatively
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cheap anyway yeah Tamia is not too expensive I think I'm so used to say like oh I need a new contrast paint
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that's almost five quid um and then being like Oh 260 yeah that's almost
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free which is obviously not uh the best way to think about it but um yeah there
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we go cool so then the next one Tom Cruz baby Tom Cruz or should we keep it on
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models and we should we talk about 47 uh I'll go on then we'll do 4750 before
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we get to the the Tom Cruz story yes so 4750 what are we talking about at 4750
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we're talking about the New Black Library Miniatures which is I was
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banging on about these the other week because I was really impressed although I have no need to buy them because I
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don't collect guards and I'm doing my best not to collect guards I've talked about previously um but £ 4750 for what
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is five Miniatures and and yes they are very cool and yes they Connect into a
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really loved series of books but yeah the Ser the the box is called hell's last and it's the Miniatures that
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accompany captain lesk or as War as Warhammer Community captain lesk and an
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eccentric command Squad ex and he oh sorry eclectic not eccentric or maybe eccentric and
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eclectic they probably all had rejuvenite yeah probably so eclectic command Squad and I've got to honest I
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thought when we went into the upper eons of the 40s for kill team boxers I
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thought had to bit harsh but then I also went oh well did do does come with
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tokens so I am a bit they've thrown a bit of cardboard in there thr a bit of car bears in there and I'm easily pleased value I'm easily pleased oh
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carboard well that that makes up for the price that must have cost a penny and a half you know what I mean but at least
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they've had the decency to apply the lube before yeah before
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that's going dry is it absolutely is 4750 and good old uh gentleman over on
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uh on the channel That his aect tactics yeah because he's anonomous he is orpc tastics aside I
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would absolutely love to have orex on the show um and just sort of like say if
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the camera cuts to this and just nobody sat here and we we have him with the microphone off camera I just think it'd
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be good if the whole we'd have to do a lot of transcribing but if we recorded the whole episode and then the whole episode went out as a power
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points that would be good yeah yeah um but anyway and he rightly pointed out
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because the the um the data cards available for these guys now to be able to see okay yeah and it's not great it's
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not great at all they i't looked at it what's but they just they they are very very basic what they've done is they've
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done um lesk has her own stats okay and then everybody else shares the same
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stats right and then it's just their little bits of the Weaponry that they get basically which is a little bit
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different so other than that they are all the other characters even though it's a very characterful looking team
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yes they all basically behave as this basically behave as the same person just
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with different Weaponry which I think 47 quid 50 I'd be Wan I personally
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be want them to each other D slate of their own even though they were a command Squad yeah and it's a they're
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not going to be they're not in the guard codex are they no no they're not in the guard codec if they've been given their
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they might be in the guard codc for 11th edition if you bought them but I think
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um I think if you know you have to relate that price to some degree back towards kill team because it's the
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nearest thing but you know that's even that's less than the Marines
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when angels of death come out in the Box they won't even cost that or they'll cost that as a maximum and that's still
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more Miniatures than that don't get me wrong each of these mines individually are very very nice especially the
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commissar and the standard Bearer I'm really really I really really like I me
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450s are it's a n it's a niche within a niche isn't it so you're you're going to have I guess those if the rules aren't
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incredible they're generally only appealing to people that have read the books and want the model yes or people
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who just really big Die Hard painters I wouldn't be surprised if I seeing them there I wouldn't be surprised if I seen
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them probably not this year maybe maybe October for Essen for Spiel I wouldn't
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be surprised if seen them turned up on a golden demon they I've got that they've really got if you're big big into your
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painting and you're a competition painter there's a lot to go at with these I think there was a there was a a
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guard command Squad that W know I can't remember which golden demon whether it was Essen or or whatever but they I
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swear there was a guard command squad on a cool base with a backdrop and yeah um maybe I'm thinking of the c one I know
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that was definitely done yeah maybe Birds it was I think it was that cre one where they were looking at that P I
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swear somebody had a flag there was one a flag it's the Imperial God they love a flag yes so but um yeah I kind up
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relating that back to you know a box of Kil team and very characterful uh but I still
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think badly priced for me the starter set is is priced to get people into the hobby so the kill Team Starter Set get
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it from element games it's 55 quid and you get seven what 14
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models and they're all fantastic yeah so like you know on on model count etc
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etc obviously it's a no-brainer maybe we're you know that's comparing apples and oranges or whatever it's um yeah I'm
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not getting them I just think I think it's playing on people's to some degree I think it's playing on people's
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sentimentality to the books yeah personally I think that's a bit I think that's a bit pricey for me yes um and
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there's a rumored price increase soon yes because obviously we we know from uh
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looking at the financial reports that have come out for GW they really are struggling at the moment yes I think they really are they're really really
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having a tough they're only making you know a 100 million profit a quarter just
29:25
bless them you know yeah should we start a fund me for games work maybe yeah maybe I think they yeah bless them well
29:32
they apparently now more they don't they know which which is a damning damning
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praise to some degree is that they now make more money than the Brit than the UK Farm um fishing
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industry really yeah which I don't know which that says more about us about how well games workshops doing or how badly
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the British Fish industri is doing yes one or the other I wouldn't like to I wouldn't like to Haz the guess I did
29:55
like simping again I did I did like valra one where he went yeah yeah when
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valra said Games Workshop now more successful than Greg's and I thought that's such a localized the fact that he
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led with that was such a localized thing because the amount of American fans that I know Val's got he's got enough fans
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that he went over there and put a tournament on in the state oh so you were just going who's Gregs yeah I mean
30:23
yeah that's such a britishism um but also doing better the company sausage rolls and pasties yes
30:30
you see you know Gregs they've they've they've panded to a wider audience and they've made a vegan sausage roll and
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and now company's gone down [ __ ] um no uh the vegan sausage roll is really good it is really good even as a as a
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huge Carnival yes huge Carnival it's well seasoned I will I
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will you know if they go they've already got the vegan ones left I'll go I'll go on then yeah so absolutely
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touch the sides anyway so doesn't matter anyway moving on yes uh there was
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the baseless uh rumor that hello Bella Tom
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Cruz because he's worked with Henry caval before in M possible that
31:19
Fallout I do love um yes I'm a big fan of that one uh it provided us with Henry
31:26
caval reloading his fists well which is always a wi which was a wonderful scene that whole even as a heterosexual man
31:32
that's still a great scene yeah yeah yeah I mean that bathroom fight scene it's great is so good I I it's so good
31:39
and one of the the guy they're fighting yes the uh asan martial artist in it who
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they're fighting was one of the Red Guard from The Last Jedi oh cool so he's obviously quite
31:52
well weapon strained as well yeah yeah cuz he's yeah he's like a renounced no what you think of the last die I don't
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know there is very varying opinions on it that scene's great and no matter what they say that's a great scene I tell you
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what there's a lot of varying opinions just on that scene really I love that scene yeah there's um uh Corridor crew I
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think they pick it apart with a stunk coordinator um because like I remember when it first seeing it in the cinema I
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was very like ah like finally awesome cool fighting um and there was some cool stuff in there um there's there's some
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other bit like there's one scene especially where I think Ray people just not doing anything yeah yes there's lots
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of like where people stand there and maybe the actor was a little bit late and they're sort of like oh I need to
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wait for that guy to get out the way before I go in you see a lot in Jackie Chan movies where people kind of
32:45
go and and and like because they're on camera they have to look like they're doing something so they stand still and
32:51
just be like yep hand still working and go um so there's a bit of that he always just do that thing of you know that know
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that rocking back and forth to doing Street Fighter if you don't do anything with the game yeah yeah
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just just beat just beat a car up while wa yeah yeah they just go really really pixelated and and just rock backwards
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and forwards um and um or was it like in in the space I can't remember the name
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of the game now not space r 2 but the kind of uh Doom ripoff one that came out
33:20
B gun Bol gun yes um if you just stand still he will get the Codex aartis out
33:26
and start flicking to but he's such a great um great thing um and doom
33:31
inspired um yes there's a scene where I think Ray is um she's I don't know been
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like in a in a some kind of Choke kind of thing or whatever and they were like oh this guy has like a weapon in their
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other hand and he doesn't just immediately stab Ray so as as the hand
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goes down they and it passes like it's obscured from camera they just like Photoshop out the weapon it's just like
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oh he's only got one arm now that's ruining that SC yeah and and
34:05
this is the annoying thing because I love all the behind the scenes and how stuff's made and and that's that's like
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really like tickles my brain and after watching that there's loads of stuff that I can't unsee whereas not I'm not
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going to watch the coridor crew now cuz I I like that I like that scene I think there's a lot to be said for just enjoying something just cuz you can and
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you want to um and now that I've gone in into that I'm like oh I kind of ruined
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that a bit for myself um anyway yes I think generally proven to be a bit of a
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sort of a a fake news sort of thing yes um but I think it it caught uh on
34:44
because it would be really cool to have Tom Cruz in Warhammer so like him and heav caval worked together before yeah
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Tom Cruz I'm going to put it out there apart from maybe from War of the Worlds when he does sci-fi he doesn't miss no I
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I and you know what and War of the Worlds I personally I I personally don't have a problem with War of the Worlds
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person personally it is weird that when people die their jeans all survive
35:09
everyone who Gets Zapped seems their TR are FL away I don't know why not shed to jacket just trousers I don't know what I
35:15
don't know what it is that the the Martian laser can't disintegrate denim I don't know why but anyway um and our
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Visions are just military and just massive big denim covered off
35:29
get on to Levis we need more armor building yeah he just everyone they were like the what it they call it doubl
35:35
denim the Canadian tuxedo just denim tanks now with big
35:41
brass rivets all all the yeah but um yeah and I I don't mind world the Wilds
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but yes he generally I think um he is like the
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modern hopefully only in this reference but he is like the modern Charlton hon
35:59
because Charlton hon who like had a reasonable had a strong career and then started doing some quakey science
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fiction you know soil and queen Planet of the Apes um I want to say I am Legend
36:10
but it wasn't called that um the amga man he did querky sence science fiction in the early 70s and Tom Cruz has been a
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bit like that you know because he did Edge of Tomorrow which I really love Minority Report Minority Report which I
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really like yeah you know he's a good he's a good guy for getting involved science fiction and the other one as
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well where he's everyone's left the planet and it's just him and the lady left doing that
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job they're living in the sky oh Oblivion Oblivion thank you very much yeah which I really like as
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well so yes we're probably not going to get Tom Cruz working for Amazon on the
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Telly but do you know what I like from this is the fact that and yes I know
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it's not a wide ranging rumor it's not like it's been report than Vanity Fair or in variety or anything like that but
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I like the fact that it shows people are taking interest in going oh this is happening it probably isn't but um
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because I I quite quite happy to have Tom Cruz in the 40K I know loads of
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people don't like him and I know for a whole range of reasons yes yeah and all that side I think I think like he he's
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kind of generally known more for like the mission impossible films in like sort of like the Twilight of his career yeah like when I immediately sort of saw
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it I was like no but he doesn't really star in anything that he like doesn't produce
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like he's very involved like Tom Cruz stars in Tom Cruz movies you know the
37:39
interesting thing is is if you had Tom Cruz in science fiction if you had Tom Cruz in in in in 40K Telly and then made
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him a Space Marine that would be twice he was playing a character that he was Far smaller than you know what I um I did watch the
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uh T Cruz's Jack Reacher movies don't like second one but I like the first one and the thing is is having read some
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Reacher character yes he's Bang onone Yes he just bless hims a bit having
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watched like the TV series because the season 3 is out now so I bless him I love it's it's really brains out tell
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you know it's you know dinner on your knee or Pizza in a beer but I still really love Rich TV show yeah yeah yeah
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but yeah so yeah I but um you said to me off Camp that he said you quite like him
38:26
to be Eisen yeah I think he'd be an all right Eisen horn I I think he'd be all right cuz I
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think like a lot of Eisen horn you though is is [ __ ] eating grin that he does well yes that he does well would be
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great for Kane yes yeah as a as a commissar Kane I
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because I think because Kane is kind of like Christ because Tom C is like he is
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great I think he's a very very very good actor like in in the earlier days like when he was in was he in Magnolia and
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love Magnolia big fan of magn and all that sort of stuff like he's the guy's got range yeah um but I think like yeah
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he could do that that sort of [ __ ] eating grin and all that sort of stuff but I I think like with um you know
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Ethan Hunt mission possible he's or you know lots of his his films he's someone
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that's kind of like pushed the boundaries a little bit gone Rogue a little bit and and that's sort of Eisen
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horn not over really I know prob I have and I know he probably won't take the probably won't be the man who plays it
39:26
but and I know he I don't know my LEAP to why I think so is partly based on him voicing him in a video game but I just
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can't get Eisen hn being Mark Strong out my head just Mark Strong for me all day
39:39
long kaen Hall but I you know I don't top Cruisers I don't think Tom Cruz is
39:44
going to join the universe but but it'd be nice if he did I think it would be I'd be interested to see um but it's
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quite funny isn't it because he has that thing that Tom Cruz I think at times likes to surround himself with people that he knows are solid yeah because you
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think then you could you could have him you could then um you could then put do
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you think you could have um Tom Cruz is commas Arcane and then Simon Peg could
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be could be um his sidekick oh my God why I can't remember his
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name can't remember Jen yes yay or yeah Tom crues Eisen horn SI Simon Peg
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underloads of makeup could be his Sant the old man yeah yeah yeah that's great
40:30
that's a great sh and then you'd have uh what's a face who's been in the last few oh Rebecca Ferguson Rebecca Ferguson
40:37
could be um oh oh yeah no oh yeah sorry she's only dead in Mission imp possible she
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not dead in real life she's not dead in real life that's not that's not how films were wait it was a documentary know
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work yeah I'm G yeah been put vodka in again instead of the water yeah Rebecca
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Ferguson would be a good i' have for beIN oh she'd be a great bequin yeah
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yeah oh there you go there you could just make just use the Miss impossible
41:10
cast and you just yeah so we make we take Mission imposs and then we move them all
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into um Warhammer but yeah but the quirky rumor from a long from a good
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while ago about cast members and it was said and then dropped and I also thought she would also be a brilliant choice for
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her I can't remember her name utterly but the young lady who is
41:34
extraordinarily attractive who was in the last Bond Anna something oh yeah
41:42
anaus she was mentioned many many moons ago for being beckin and again would be great for that yeah she'd be really good
41:48
like in the most recent she her character in the most recent Bond was really fun and I like the twist because
41:55
they she plays it you assume like oh she's new to the job and she's bubbly
42:00
and fun and she's just gonna bullets start flying and she's gonna be useless and then she's amazing yeah but I think
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uh I think where Rebecca Ferguson would work well for beckin is the fact that daging hair for season one wouldn't be
42:16
particularly difficult because she's not she's not an older lady by stretched imagination I don't even know if she's in her 40s yet but in season one you
42:23
could play ha young and then season two which has jumped 100 years is yeah she
42:28
could just then a little little bit could let her let her just the she is a
42:34
they don't not age at all when they when they're important enough they just age a lot slower by the drugs they use yeah
42:40
all the rejuvenate treatments yes yeah I think yeah folks I'm now we're not even
42:45
bothered about Tom Cruz being Eisen Horner just now just one Simon Peg and Rebecca and we're assuming it's Eisen HW
42:51
CU I I guess that that's kind of like the the the first training at the station is yeah it's I think it's
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because everyone says oh a book is in one yeah because it's it's the one that drip feeds you the 40K Universe slowly
43:03
yes and and it does such an incredible job I think yeah and and and I think you know and also to some degree I think um
43:10
G um G does as well because you know it mainly sticks to only the the the one
43:16
type of bad guy it's like chaos guys who are once human yeah and you know and that's pretty much it in one of the in
43:23
one of the books they mention a Dark Eldar assassin yeah and gaunt mentions that he has fought the
43:29
dark elar in the past but that's pretty much it yeah you know so uh you know I think you could come in go ghost
43:36
Direction you know doing you know sharp in space or yeah you know or Band of
43:41
Brothers in space whichever you know take the pick of your own flavor there's so many I think like I guess similar to
43:48
is what they're doing with Star Wars apart from you wouldn't get a kids TV show out of it in in the waram universe
43:55
is yeah you could have yeah you wouldn't have a show called The cherubs yes oh
44:03
God cherub was meant to be given an important mission to a sisters of Battle Commander he seems to have lost the
44:09
hilarity ensued oh yeah he brought along his skull-faced baby baby chubby baby
44:14
friend yes yeah and one of his wings is a bit smaller so he just flies around in circles um and their mate Sammy the
44:22
servo scho see I would watch that yeah I would and
44:29
no it has I think that should be a sitcom and it has an intro like friends but yeah so yeah yeah you're
44:36
right Star Wars is Star Wars but yeah so different different genres within the
44:42
same Universe um you know like you have your general sort of Epic
44:48
sci-fi fantasy thing but then all the bits underneath it like solo was a bit
44:54
of a western yeah um and you got your sort of heist Escape movies with like
45:00
Andor movies TV show whatever um I rewatched Andor recently and I really
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really like it well I watched uh I was out making breakfast yesterday morning and and I glanced into the the the
45:15
living room through the glass door and I thought oh and I went in and my eldest was watching Rogue one yeah so I then
45:21
finished making breakfast on watch Rogue one just all the way through to the end and uh and I said to him then I said he
45:28
hadn't watched Andor but he's now 17 I think he was probably only about 15 when Andor came out as a show but I said to
45:34
him I think you should probably now with the age you are and your interest and and attention span yeah being that of an
45:41
adult virtually I said you know you should probably give Andor a watch now and get it watched because then I said you're in time for season two in April
45:48
because is that is that this year is it a April TR yeah April so good so I'm
45:54
really excited that and also from the trailer I'm really excited about the new season of De yeah and I'm liking the fact that
46:00
Disney haven't Disney F no they haven't slapped the 12 certificat on it which I'm really pleased about so good they've
46:07
gone yeah keeping it very much in the same vein as the Netflix ones which is great I did enjoy the Netflix to yeah
46:14
yeah so yeah some good stuff this year yeah yeah excited but you know what would be really funny is if Amazon go
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right your 40K story is your 40K show and it's nobody we know not a book nothing just when bang it's this yeah
46:27
team of Imperial Commandos or it's this or it's that or it's you know it be
46:32
really interesting if they didn't follow a book yes who don't have to no new books get written all the time in 4k and
46:38
introduce brand new characters you've never heard of you know so you could do easily do that I'm I'm really intrigued
46:43
to see where it goes I Hope they've got the bottle to do what they said they were going to do is is to also make it
46:51
in films not not necessarily on the cinema although that would be great because the idea of seeing a load of
46:57
cool things bouncing around on a big screen would be wonderful but I hope at the very least they do Amazon movies as
47:04
well cuz obviously Amazon produces a load of films of its own yeah to varying degrees of success and and and quality
47:10
but you know um maybe I don't know maybe they'll go at the TV show first that does well go
47:17
right well the next story we're going to tell will be a cinema story you know okay Disney have done it in the fact
47:22
that Disney have done the Mandalorian and the Mandalorian story is going to be capped off by we finish on the cinema season 3 was a
47:29
bit of a let down for me I think I wasn't there yeah it was decidedly average in Parts Bor so yeah it be interesting in a
47:38
few time we like yeah season 3 of Warhammer just uh yeah yeah I was really disappointed
47:45
with the introduction of the character Jimmy space um but I found it a bit on the nose when
47:52
he said yes this is my Warhammer 4,000 smash or whatever um yes so I yeah I'm
48:00
still super excited I can't I can't wait for all of the the casting news and
48:07
rumors I love that and I'm like the first photograph of somebody in costume
48:12
yeah like the the build that's always great the buildup for it like I it will
48:18
probably be like I remember the buildup for um episode seven yeah uh Star Wars I
48:25
remember when the first trailer came out and it had the really epic music and you'd see the Millennium Falcon and and
48:31
all that sort of stuff and just seeing the characters in costume for the first time and blah blah blah blah blah like that was incredible and and just being
48:39
as excited um as I was then just being like oh [ __ ] yeah um yeah I can't it's I
48:45
can't yeah the hype once the hype gets rolling for me that I think the the hype is almost like more exciting than
48:51
sitting down and watching it um oh I remember the very very first photograph I've seen on Mandalorian M and I was
48:57
just like I cannot wait you know what I mean so yeah but yeah so I don't think
49:04
we'll be getting Tom Cruz but it's nice that people are interested they starting to build their even if they're even even
49:10
if it's building their own hype not real hype even if he had like a cameo like in Tropic Thunder
49:16
um probably not as that character but if he just worked in the administratum and
49:22
and somebody's like oh we need to get in touch with uh Earth and well holy teror
49:28
and run this past and then he's just like yeah if you filled out this form and that form and that form and this
49:33
form and a [ __ ] it let's just do a war crime um yeah um yeah that that could be really
49:41
really interesting yes I don't think we're getting T Cruz I'd love it if we did have Tom Cruz yes um we'll settle
49:46
for rebec we'll settle for Rebecca Ferguson and we'll have Simon Peg if they're available yes I I think Simon
49:52
Peg would make a great saon yeah he would do wouldn't he yeah yeah um yeah
49:57
but he would be I also do now think I do now think he would be a oh do you know now now I want Simon Peg to be Kane and
50:04
now I want Nick Frost to be J to be Jurgen yes oh we just had just had the same thought I think yeah that that
50:10
would be hilarious and and I I think I yeah Simon Peg would be a better Kane than Tom Cruz you could imagine you
50:16
could imagine Nick fros going more tasar be you oh I could easily imagine
50:22
Nick Frost as Jen yes even if you don't have tyen Peg i' now just want Nick Frost beur yeah cuz I think he I think
50:28
he's I don't think he's that expensive so and he's done a TV show for Amazon once before already he did that one
50:34
where they were like hun ghost hunters or something like that yeah sool yeah we that but yeah I even though um the news
50:43
was kind of generally fake still really exciting still all aboard well it like
50:49
it said this it sparked me brain over thing people I would like to see within the universe and not just do nothing go
50:54
well I want Shawn Bean to be Rogan Rogan joshh I nearly said
51:00
that yeah Sean be just to be a curry obsessed I don't want Tim Curry to be a
51:05
bean yes you know what I you know what how I think could' be a great Kane Rowan
51:12
Atkinson oh well well there's lots of Black Adder in there already isn't it yeah and and it imagine if they just
51:19
played it literally as going it's the next Black ader Series in the Warhammer 40,000 Universe we can't call him commas
51:26
black ad but he blatantly is Kar black other that' be so fun wouldn't it be good that would be really good and Tony
51:32
Robinson is Jurgen which is blatantly is already because when you seen him in the in the
51:38
first world war ones he always had a rash and would looked a bit Ry around yes had some kind of I was making
51:43
horrendous tea out of like bits of rat or something yeah so uh um yes I'll I'll
51:49
take U I would definitely take that I think that would be hilarious I think Ry Atkinson is is he's like he's not
51:58
somebody like Mark Strong is like too heroic to be to to be Kane yeah but the
52:04
problem is they always on the cover of the books make him look massively heroic hilarious like Henry on the yeah he'd be
52:10
like reaching out and his triceps are like absolutely massive um yeah it's
52:16
it's hilarious um but I yeah I I love the K Books I think I need to start listening to them again yeah I did three
52:22
and I thought I like them but I need to have a bit of a bre yes yes and um cuz oh I was
52:28
on cuz I I've had a bit of a break from Warhammer novels at the minute I just need to open my audible cuz what was I
52:34
listening to I think it was pexis um but I might be oh no indomitus
52:41
yeah um and it's loads and loads and loads and loads of ultramarines doing
52:47
ultramarine things yeah a lot in a very ultramarine mana and um yeah I've got
52:52
five hours left um and I was just sort of like struggling with it just to little bit yeah um so I I uh see I I I
52:59
went a bit of an I've got two credits on me Audible and it's like am I just going to do the next two G ghosts I'm
53:05
currently listening to Tracer general which is really good and I'm going to just do the next two and if I do the
53:12
next two it then brings me up to where I finished on the books many many many years ago so I will be in new tery where
53:17
I go I now don't remember any I have no memory to fall back on this there new books for me which would be cool but I'm
53:23
also thinking I really want to read uh I work well listen to I really want to
53:28
listen to heat too remember the the movie Heat yes or Micha on man has written that as a
53:35
sequel but the problem being is I also know they're going to make it as a movie and I normally prefer a book after the
53:41
film but rather watch the film not knowing there loads of inconsistencies to the book and then enjoy the book and
53:47
going oh the book is better but I enjoyed the film as it was there and then cuz I think if you go in and you've read the book you always going to sit
53:53
there go well that's like you know it's one of the things that killed The Walking Dead for me it was I you know I was bang I read I was up to date all the
53:59
way through it with the comic book so it was a bit I I I like ignorance as Bliss with a movie or a TV series and then
54:05
I'll fill in the blanks later on with a book so I'm a bit like do I listen to he too or wait till he made it see my my
54:12
audible credits at the moment well actually before I get into that uh my girlfriend went to go and see deil W
54:17
Prada the musical when she was working down in London recently and and she was like oh I preferred that bit from the
54:23
movie but then that bit from the book like you imagine 15 years time yeah I went to go and see Warhammer the musical
54:30
and I I it really departed from the TV show and uh I actually genuinely prefer
54:35
the lead model um and from third edas
54:47
yes yeah God yeah you like oh it's so sad and it's two and a half hours forces
54:53
of Chaos let's K ress
54:59
that's yeah if they don't make that [ __ ] idiots I'm got to get straight onto the phone now
55:07
we oh dear me that was funny um yes what what am I going to do um I I'm thinking
55:14
of uh death cor Creek Books oh yeah they're meant to be good as well yes yeah I've heard good things um can
55:20
somebody please tell me cuz I don't know you might know uh which one I need to CU I think there's two I just seen them on
55:27
the shelves there's one that's just called C and then the siege of VX I
55:32
think it's called um and I'm not sure like I've just briefly looked at them I don't know if they're a series or um if
55:38
there's one you're supposed to list to first or whatever I think Siege of Rax is a bit old oh right um oh we're
55:45
greeted with you twice in one show in the middle anyway she you've been up like three times now um so comes up for
55:51
a stretch yeah yeah uh big Str it's important it's very important you need
55:57
to stretch oh oh we're having a play fight now um yes so uh yeah I'm I'm I'm
56:03
Keen to get on some uh I think like yeah human stories they're they're my sort of
56:08
Interest really but saying that I I really really did like the night LW Trilogy and there's but that's from
56:15
quite a few human perspectives as well so yeah with the TV shows yeah I hope the lead character or a few of them are
56:21
human yeah yeah I think that's that's the most important thing for me right then what we've got next
56:26
um painting painting bad habits oh yes this is a thing yeah this is a bit where
56:33
we audience participation we'd like to put you in the we'd like to put in the comments because we want to put it
56:38
together for a future show is want to do a show about things you're doing that
56:43
you know you shouldn't be no not I don't mean your next door neighbor I mean I mean when it comes to the Hobby
56:52
so uh we want you to confess your deepest darkest sins with regards to things that you're doing when you're
56:58
painting that even though you're a grownup you know you shouldn't be doing
57:03
and start the ball roll it because I've got a few oh I've got so many that I almost feel embarrassed now thinking I
57:10
think this I thought this was a really good segment for the show and I'm now thinking and I'm going to expose myself to that yeah I am I'm not very good at
57:19
mixing me paints I can be a bit I can be a bit bad for it sometimes especially if
57:25
I just go oh a DOT of that would look great there I do have a habit of just ripping the lid off and just going
57:31
straight in and I can be a bit bad for you know when people go oh you know
57:36
which is the best best type of Vortex mixer on the market and I'm thinking I barely shake them with me Mark one hand
57:42
oh right so yeah when you're like mixing your paints I'm P shaking paint right okay yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah I'm a
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bit bad for that if it's just a little dot of something I don't think that's the worst
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thing in the world I was trying to I was trying to make it sound better it can be sometimes quite a
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lot I always like to think that the weet Pet's doing the work oh okay fair enough yeah and the other one as well which is
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talking about palette I will eek the life out of that palette to the fact that I'm then working on about a quarter
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of an inch of of square left of the corner try to instead of just going just change the bloody
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thing I'm I'm pretty bad for changing it quite regularly like say if I've got like a big patch of black or something
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and I'm like oh well I couldn't possibly and throw it in the bin and then chug another one on um my I think the first
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one that comes to my mind is I'm horrific
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for I think overloading my brush say if I'm Edge highlighting yeah but I now
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know that I'm doing it which I think makes it worse yeah I'll go oh I've I've overloaded that oh it's s right I'll
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just be really careful and I [ __ ] it up every time yeah and it's like oh they go oh
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the there's a big ball of paint on the end I'm sure it be all right oh no look how it was um I I I every single time I'll do
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it and I'll be like no this time it'll be different and it never is my terrible
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one and I know so and I scream at myself and I do it all the time and I do scream
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at myself because I'm not using the world's cheapest brushes and I'm you know me and you both with him with with
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being involved with them we we all we both work with arop brushes yeah because
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uh you know we work alongside Byron and also Byron uh and his lovely company produced our box set of brushes for us
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as well um painting me
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faral can be really bad for it or also going I know really I should use a
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crappy brush that's on the end of its life to use metallics and I just used a brush that got to be hand somebody um
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some somebody pulled me up on that in a painting video actually um using cuz contrast paints are like really heavy on
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your on your bristles um and and as well as metallics and they were like oh you're going to trash those lovely
1:00:04
brushes I remember chatting to Byron and Pete and they were like oh I just wait until a brush is kind of at the end of its life and then I'll I'll paint the
1:00:11
end of it like yellow and then I know that it's my metallics brush um and the worst thing I did was I bought um a size
1:00:21
six okay Hefty brush yeah and they're not cheap no they're not
1:00:26
oh about 25 quid I think a six I think more than that oh my god um I think
1:00:32
definitely more than that and now whenever I use it CU I I'm just sort of like yeah Big Brush wo um I've used it
1:00:38
on quite a lot of metallics like painting dread knots and stuff like that I'm like I'd like to get this done really quick um and I've I've not taken
1:00:46
care of it and now it it sits in a point But as soon as I use it it just be like
1:00:51
two points um and it's a bit of a nightmare and it's all completely my own fault one which is related to metallics
1:00:58
is terrible for not emptying me U me water emping me water pot oh yes awful
1:01:05
for cuz yes I mean yes you're meant to change it every time you use metallics mine mine looks like mine looks like
1:01:12
stagnant water at chobble honest to God it's awful and I just think to myself you've just done a load of lead belt CH
1:01:18
and washed that brush out and now you're going in to paint something yellow yes I do I'm terrible just to give it that
1:01:24
exra shine you and yeah basically it's just like am I just careless or am I
1:01:30
just I think utterly lazy or or do I get in so much of a zone of going oh I'm on
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a roll that I oh oh yeah I had metalic oh it doesn't matter I need to do and I don't know which of the you know
1:01:42
potentially three categories I I fall in like it's like am I too focused am I utterly lazy or do I just not care
1:01:50
enough or and I don't know which one it is but oh yeah I I was the other day it's how it came to me the other day I
1:01:55
was sitting painting and I counted about five things where I just thought what
1:02:00
are you doing and and a lot of it comes down to not looking after my brushes very well yeah like the other day and
1:02:07
this probably is probably one of the worst to admit to I think I used a relatively large DST brush brush the
1:02:14
other day and I watered down some PVA glue and used that to put it on the base see I I did that with some uh and I
1:02:22
actually thought what are you doing mm cuz if it dries you're boogers aren't
1:02:28
you I did that with some um matte varnish and I didn't wash my brush off correctly uh and the brush is [ __ ] um
1:02:36
so that's a size three that's asff love the size three brush as stiff as a board
1:02:41
um well well now you've got one of them brushes that you can paint the end of and use it for something that's your basing brush now there absolutely um
1:02:49
every yeah it's on my desk and occasionally I pick it up and go oh um just remember said I sit there
1:02:56
sometimes thinking oh this brush could really do with sort out oh look there's one of them tubs of shampoo anyway this brush could really do with being sorted
1:03:02
out thinger shampoo there for the love of gods when you go to finally empty that rotting bluming coffee mug that is
1:03:08
standing in as your pot yeah for the love of God go go and shampoo that brush while you're there and it's just like no
1:03:15
cuz I've got to finish this you know thing you know so and and I think that's
1:03:20
the the more I paint the more I think you know cuz the Pro painters and it's
1:03:25
wonderful seeing someone that's incredible at painting do it in front of you yes um because you realize that
1:03:33
quite often they will have the same brushes same wet palette same model um there's obviously the knowledge
1:03:40
Gap yes um which is generally considerable for me yeah yeah um you
1:03:46
know skill Gap years of of Home practice and all that sort of stuff um but as well I think just the adherance
1:03:53
to you know if you're doing an heavy metal piece or whatever like you're not
1:03:59
going to make those mistakes of overloading your brush and this that and the other and it's like going oh mine
1:04:05
looks a bit patchy and and like Christ with my Raptors um there's a a a shot
1:04:11
where I'm I'm painting a stripe down um a yellow stripe down down a white
1:04:16
shoulder pad um and I just look at this really overloaded brush really close up
1:04:22
and I'm just I'm just watching myself going oh you massive dildo no no dildos have a yeast um and I just there just
1:04:29
like and then there's a big pool of yellow at the end I'm like no wonder it looks [ __ ] like I needed to dab my brush
1:04:36
off on some paper towel and just commit to doing more layers because I think one yeah one thing I really [ __ ] up is and
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against I think it's cuz I overload my brush or I go in um too early and the
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paint's not dry um is is just getting those really really really smooth base
1:04:54
coats yeah um and I'll do something and I'll be like oh why is it patchy and [ __ ] and I know exactly why it's patchy
1:05:00
and [ __ ] I just don't do anything about it youd rather you'd rather pretend it's a problem that you can't you can't
1:05:07
figure out the answer to yeah like oh no what a shame we'll never know why I was
1:05:14
yeah and I'm just like Burying my head in the sand I think well no I know exactly why um well or I like to think
1:05:21
that I do I may not know I'm probably making mistakes that uh but there we go
1:05:26
think how many things am I doing wrong just because I'm not smart enough to know the difference but yes so please
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there's a few of ours we'd like to cover this in a in a not too distant from now
1:05:37
episode come and talk to priest Jeff and priest Pat and get in
1:05:43
the box and confess your sins for painting yeah or model building it can be more than anything within the hobby
1:05:50
come and confess what it is you're doing wrong and we'll uh we'll do a whole segment about it you can can remain
1:05:56
anonymous if you want to well you can't really if you put it on on on if you put it as a public comment if you put on YouTube as a public comment you can't
1:06:02
but um no you could message the peny Instagram yes you could do that if you want yeah please get in touch and uh let
1:06:10
us know your sins and we'll uh we'll cover them in a not too distant episode I think I think my
1:06:16
sins I think definitely have another sin we'd like brands of paints and things like that cuz I I think um you know
1:06:23
rightly or wrongly Games Workshop paints um would get quite a lot of stick like their whites especially and you know
1:06:30
they it's brand new and it's all separated into like the raw materials it's made from you know oh you see the
1:06:36
Earth crust in there yeah um and the beetle that used whatever um you know
1:06:42
they they really did get a lot of stick um you know I I bought the AK um like
1:06:48
briefcase years ago yes and right when we first started yeah and and spent a lot of time um in the AK system
1:06:56
um and then I was just like oh like they cover really well yeah absolutely but I
1:07:02
think um you know I I spent a lot of time in that system so I got used to a
1:07:07
lot of the paints yeah I think they are very consistent but then I think like the my lack of work with
1:07:15
Citadel over AK made me dislike Citadel a lot more and like a paint is a paint
1:07:22
um you know all of these yeah they all have their different uses and properties and all and it's funny though isn't it
1:07:29
because there some paint you know and I don't want this discussion to become about paint but on the painting face yeah on the painting face yes I know but
1:07:35
yeah but I don't go into the goods and the bads of paint here and now but like um you know people talk about anything
1:07:41
that's pale and color and Games Workshop makes them are an absolute blumber nightmare but you know yeah I had to
1:07:47
work a little bit the other day I I I was spraying I've been improving hopefully improving my airbrushing and I
1:07:53
was using some rakar flash m and it's a blumber nightmare but you know as well though but you know once you get it
1:07:58
where it's meant to be it's a great looking paint it's a great color it tick so many boxes and you go yeah you know
1:08:07
we we they're very easy to slag them off board I think also as well you put a little bit of work into them you end up with really good yeah so the when I sort
1:08:14
of was like right let SC of faces and going to pain a load of them pretty much all of those were GW paints cuz I I went
1:08:21
with tutorials that were online and they do their flesh variants are really strong yes yeah like probably about the
1:08:27
widest I think amongst yeah pretty much most of the paint Rangers Kad and flesh tone awesome yeah um and I'm intrigued
1:08:34
to try painting a face just with AK yeah um but I think I'd probably find it like
1:08:39
trickier because they're really pigmented you have to really water them down yeah um and say like the black for
1:08:45
example you can if you put as much water into that as you would with um another
1:08:51
black it' almost be a wash but you can still get one coat coverage um it's probably a bit of an overe exaggeration
1:08:56
but just try and get the point across I guess it's it's exceptional so I think like i' now like with kti and FL I be
1:09:03
like okay blah blah and then um yeah and actually on a face where you're using
1:09:09
such essentially minute amounts of paint for painting such a small thing um I
1:09:15
really liked the open top and just pulling a little bit out yeah and I I would still be using too much whereas a
1:09:21
dropper bottle I think it's very easy to to just go Swit don't know whether it's just my claw like hands now but I am at
1:09:28
the moment with I don't have much paint on um and I know everyone loves them and I do get it but I don't know how much
1:09:34
paint I'm wasting at the moment with dropper bottles like off of it across the table he seems to be more paint on
1:09:41
there than he actually was in the bottle just begin with yeah but I I yeah so um I I know there's a lot of you know a lot
1:09:48
of moaning and and yes I the other day wanted I got a load of paints out that I needed to use to do something and I got
1:09:55
all the mouse in advance for the Citadel paints that you wear and I opened them up and I ended up my the the Gap I had
1:10:01
between customers in the barber shop turned into let clean all of these pots
1:10:08
and I took all the lids off and turned them inside out and got the scalp which extremely satisfying but also at the
1:10:13
same point in time it all comes off in yeah and you it comes off in a ring and you go hey and then I got to the end of
1:10:19
it and then I was like oh and me client is in in five minutes and you know didn't do any painting but so I know
1:10:25
they are there's a multitudes of things wrong with them but as well but at the same point in time I just find sometimes
1:10:31
with a drop a bottle I just the amount of paint I waste just trying to you know me brain's going just a drop Jeff just a
1:10:38
drop just a oh and look now I've got enough to paint a land Raider you know yeah so yes so
1:10:44
anyway confess your sins and we'll talk about them on a future episode in future
1:10:50
what have we got left um the
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uh going on with um The Games Workshop Creator program yes we've um we've sadly
1:11:04
had uh one of our wider crew if you will from within YouTube our Austrian friend
1:11:12
Travian has just been taken off the program yes um he's made a video about it and um he's been very levelheaded
1:11:20
about why it happened and uh with we've sort of surmised on
1:11:26
certain areas and one of them being we've been talking about is uh the John blanch PL paints with yeah so yeah like
1:11:34
definitely like I don't want to say like what whether terrarian right or wrong or or whatever no um because I don't like
1:11:43
necessarily uh specula speculating on on other creators um but you know we could speculate on
1:11:50
Games Workshop cuz our big faceless Cy um so that's all good um yeah he's put out his video and um sort of he doesn't
1:11:58
necessarily go into why but uh says um you can speculate and then shows
1:12:05
screenshots so it's uh he has I couldn't dream of saying yes yes um exhibit not a
1:12:13
um yes so what's sort of um potentially more interesting is um games workshops sort
1:12:21
of um stance with their Creator so they don't
1:12:27
as far as I'm aware don't necessarily pay um those that are on the creative program I mean I know that they've
1:12:33
sponsored other videos and and um and that kind of thing before um but they send creators free product and in return
1:12:42
they get the publicity of it you know relatively speaking works well for both
1:12:48
people Games Workshop product gets shown to a lot of people and those that are on it get to show models unreleased models
1:12:55
and that will bring more attention to their videos yeah um I think
1:13:02
the It's relatively safe to assume that this would probably involve the John blanch paint set yes um because that
1:13:09
seems to be the uh the cataly for what's gone on yeah I think can I just
1:13:15
interject as well later I think there's been been videos lately about the jump
1:13:21
blanch paint set where people seem to be suggesting The Games Workshop of missed
1:13:26
the mark yes going he worked for them for lots and lots of years and then Army
1:13:32
painter have released this set and why haven't Games Workshop released this set and a lot of people sort to suggest on
1:13:38
the Games Workshop have missed out through their own ignorance but I didn't ever feel like that at all because yes I
1:13:46
think to have done something to honor the legacy of John blanch even though they've released books about John John
1:13:51
blanche's work and they've shown shown John blanchers uh um Design Concepts for
1:13:57
things in many many things that they've done um they go oh well games workshops
1:14:02
should have been making this paint set but the problem being I think is there is that Aames Workshop don't
1:14:10
make paint sets other than starter paint sets for people who are just getting into the hobby yes here's how here's a
1:14:16
box get like three Space Marines and the paint required here to make a SP here to paint a Space Marine here's to paint a
1:14:23
tyranid or what I think they did them as well and you go that's about it really
1:14:29
yeah they don't you know and they don't do specialist paints other than they do a number of colors within the air range
1:14:36
which people forget about which I always really like um um I buy them even if
1:14:42
they're not going through I used to buy them before I had an airbrush because I just go I am going to use that color a
1:14:47
lot they're pre-thinned and they're pre-thinned and they're in a bigger to a bigger B yeah you know you're not getting it not getting it the same
1:14:52
you're going well I got this for the same price as a smaller one one guess it cost more but I'm going to use a lot of that color yeah but they don't do a
1:14:59
specialist thing and also as well the bit that I think the people Miss is the fact that John blanch and blanchitsu and
1:15:08
this whole Grim dark thing I love it I think it's great I paint sometimes a
1:15:14
little bit in that way myself but I really like it but Games Workshop when
1:15:20
it comes to releasing Miniatures go with a very clevy a very a very standardized
1:15:28
heavy metal paint Scheme yes it's designed to to look good on a box in codec shots it's that looks good from
1:15:35
every Ang you know generally three highlights and that's the way they do it and that's it and then if Games Workshop
1:15:42
then started going well there's this more slightly more erratic dirtier Battlefield color scheme which I
1:15:49
completely understand is more realistic I've been covered in mud and a trench myself it but you're going You're then
1:15:57
sort of then trying to sell two styles of of what they do at once and and
1:16:03
that's Games Workshop can't really do that yeah and then this thing of going well you know we're doing a paint
1:16:09
dedicated to our artist I wholeheartedly get how important John blanch has been
1:16:14
for Games Workshop yeah he's he's massively formed how that the 40K
1:16:21
Universe looks and also old world as well but 40K he's really he's really
1:16:27
been the eye the the creative eye of that sort of feel to him you know a lot of I think that also lands with jez
1:16:33
Goodwin as well and how he designed the Marines later on and so on but that's not that's not how they are
1:16:41
presented on the box and Games Workshop increasingly is pushing everything towards the Box the Miniatures in the
1:16:48
rules reflect how you buy them in a box yeah you know all these things are
1:16:53
reflective of the plastic and I think to then go oh Games Workshop Mr trick it's
1:17:00
a great clickbait well clickbait a bit strong it's a great title for a thumbnail yes
1:17:05
yeah like playing playing the YouTube game um I think it it it seems like a
1:17:12
it's such like a has been such a well-received product yeah like Army painter actually I think would have
1:17:19
brilliant bit of foresight to credit to them I think they're on a roll at the minute like The Fanatic paints have been really well received paint 2.0 I think
1:17:26
is fantastic um and then coming out with the blanch paint set I'm like awesome
1:17:31
like that makes business sense um and on the the the the good reaction when you
1:17:38
see something like that is oh Cy yeah Games Workshop are really [ __ ] up with that haven't they like they've like John
1:17:44
blanch has retired yes um but you know he can still you can't copyright paint colors and he can put his name to Army
1:17:51
painter like absolutely credit credit to him for why wouldn't for making that bread um but I I I agree with you to the
1:17:59
extent that I think a specific paint set of a specific art style even though it's
1:18:07
a Games Workshop artist is too far down the hobby trumpet yeah for Games
1:18:14
Workshop it's not a Games Workshop product that and other companies are doing it you know um Pro acel you know
1:18:20
they you know they make they do ninj on paint there's Lou SU ps's flame on Miniatures paints and
1:18:28
there's probably many more than that and they can do that because proac being Monument Hobbies who are lovely lovely
1:18:35
people I really enjoy any time I spend with them they're great guys they can do that because they don't have there's not
1:18:42
the pro roll style they just make paints yeah well and brushes and but peripherals you know what I'm getting
1:18:48
but they don't make Miniatures no and they don't have Miniatures on boxers so to support artists they do have I see it
1:18:53
every time I open my boot they do make they do makei hobby hobby trainer they
1:18:58
do make Miniatures but not little busts yeah but they're not you know but they are there for allowing you to learn to
1:19:05
paint better but they don't make Rank and file soldiers that need to be sold and shown on the front of a box as
1:19:11
brilliant as I as much as I love their paints and I love the people that make them that's not what they do so they can
1:19:16
do paints named after they can do boxes of paints named after people and I'm glad they do I think it's quite cool and
1:19:22
the same goes again for um colorful yeah starting to do sprays that where
1:19:27
they go this one isn't directly mimicking a Games Workshop paint or
1:19:34
existing rattle can yeah it's we're doing a did a bit color that's not been covered before but we're going to tap
1:19:40
into the YouTube into the YouTubers for like your friend and mine being Pete the
1:19:46
war gamer and even valra who's got a yellow yes I'm simping yeah but you know
1:19:51
um three times now what more you're going to have to propose I know yeah um to tell you what happens when I go and say it five times hey but um
1:19:59
so you know I understand how other companies can do it and how it allows them the flexibility to do it but Games
1:20:06
Workshop I think sort of saying to them oh well you missed a trick they didn't miss a trick it's not a trick that they
1:20:11
could have in their no in their show think if but if that's and which makes the
1:20:20
reaction to saran's video potentially worse because if it
1:20:25
was never a product that they were going to make if they've been annoyed that CU my you know my interpretation of it
1:20:32
is you're you've got a direct competitors's paint used on a a Games
1:20:38
Workshop PR leas model that they've sent you for fre nothing yes um but where's
1:20:44
like where's the line how like you know is there something in the contract that they would have had to sign I I haven't
1:20:50
seen it I can't imagine they would force you to paint the models with only
1:20:56
Citadel pants and they haven't in the past and amount you look at you know NJ for example njan uses a lot of AK a lot
1:21:03
of Vallejo um squid M especially at the moment because he's all got his own again there's another company doing
1:21:10
ranges with people's names attached them being valo um putting paints out who are still
1:21:17
painting you know mainly painting miniatures that are their own Miniatures
1:21:23
at the moment but you know I've just watched I've just watched Lucas Paint um
1:21:29
something that was blatantly a um was blatantly GW money was an age of sigar
1:21:34
whatever it was and he painted all of that using using their their own pain
1:21:41
you know so he's promoting Games Workshop but doing also doing an amazingly good job of promoting their their own SL valo paints my personal
1:21:49
impression of the of of of the situation happy be wrong um is is that it's never
1:21:56
been an issue before it's only an issue now because the fact that John blanch is
1:22:03
attached to it kind of makes workshop look bad yes and I think it makes Games Workshop
1:22:10
look worse because of the aformentioned videos that more than one YouTuber has released going Games Workshop Mr trick
1:22:17
yes and and doing doing like it's such an open goal as far as a YouTube video
1:22:22
goes doing Blan shitsu like you wouldn't do that on a third party model you'd do it on a Warhammer
1:22:28
model excuse me you would fight a flying over do apologize
1:22:34
so that makes a great deal of sense and especially with c yeah and the way it's
1:22:39
like a perfect stor than being released at the same time from a workshop perspective yes you could argue you're
1:22:47
doing this this and this you're directly promoting a competitor's paints and so on and so forth but then also you know
1:22:54
YouTube videos are sponsored we have Squarespace sponsorships like you know it's not necessarily like there's not
1:22:59
really the crossover there um but you know if if they could go oh well we're
1:23:06
giving you free product like how far where's the line yes like how far how far the Games Workshop go into
1:23:12
everything and and is it is it on the Creator to know exactly where that is
1:23:18
does it is it someone at Workshop I imagine it came from quite high up um
1:23:24
does it depend on just what video they've seen and go oh I didn't like that kick him off yeah is or has it been
1:23:32
a number of strikes because travor and who I would like to point out now I'm a big fan of um I've I've been a patron of
1:23:40
his in the past as well uh he's been he's been there from not the very
1:23:46
beginning by any stretch of imagination but he's been a steady Rock within you the YouTube painting side of things for
1:23:52
a long time I love his painting style he's got quite a full shelf on a c with to Golden demons the boy knows exactly
1:23:58
what he's talking about I have a lot of time for him and I do love his very very dry Austrian sense of
1:24:04
humor one of his gags that he made many many moons ago about basement was Still Remains one of my favorite remarks I
1:24:11
already know I thought was great and I'm not going to say it but it was it was one of those te tea out me nose moments
1:24:17
when I when he said it so have a lot of time for him but at the same point in time torian isn't shy from saying
1:24:24
I thought golden demon was poor this year or I thought the judging was poor this year or I didn't like this I didn't like that miniature was better received
1:24:31
than that and he and he's got a Lo lot of golden demons on his shelf behind him so he has more
1:24:39
right to say about any of this than I do by especially you know like I say I'm I'm a man that puts the paint up to the
1:24:45
feral on the brush so you know he's got a lot more opportunity to he's got more right shall we go with she's got more
1:24:52
right to be able to a good sculptor yeah um and looking at you know the um uh The
1:24:59
Inquisitor like that he resculpted excent that got a lot of stick uh like the original model yeah yeah and and he
1:25:05
his go of it was excellent yeah so you know so he I think he he can be allowed
1:25:11
to hold Court quite a bit but I think has he just done so much that has now but you know
1:25:19
it was he already a lot of Nails in the coffin and this was the last one because ninj did the same thing he painted yes
1:25:26
paint the basically the same model even the same with the same paints and and they both look very different which is really cool yeah so um you know where I
1:25:35
don't know whether do right travor if you want a DM please do is the a line
1:25:41
that got crossed that they knew they were crossing or was the line just put in and then they told they crossed it
1:25:48
you know I don't know what I don't know how it had gone I think it's a shame more the second one than the first yeah
1:25:54
I think it's a shame that Travian isn't going to be producing Miniatures in advance because I think getting your
1:26:00
brand new especially if you can paint to a good standard to follow a lot torian does a lot of good low medium and quite
1:26:08
high level tips with regards how he paints 100% if you go and buy your brand new box from your friendly local gaming
1:26:15
store maybe element or wherever Games Workshop wherever it is you come you come home with
1:26:20
it what have you got on today I've I've even got my uh I haven't wor a shirt in
1:26:25
ag oh you who you who are you simping for today on your T-shirt g r on your
1:26:34
T-shirt gamescape yeah so our friends in San Francisco yes we have a discount
1:26:39
code now for people in the US so uh that's in the description I'm going to suit back we've had on the show Good Old
1:26:45
Blue Hair sge you them lovely Lely man that he is so yeah you know and it's I
1:26:51
think it's a shame that Travian won't be out there having is painted for when you come running home with your box yeah
1:26:57
ready to go go for his video and they won't be one there I think he a real shame yes you know um and and um yeah he
1:27:04
said before like he's previously absolutely shat on Army painter when they've released stuff that's been not very good yeah um and I think they
1:27:10
comments he does massive doses of honesty yes is and he like I
1:27:15
say honesty sometimes with a side with a side s of blunt yeah you know them I
1:27:23
think it's a shame yeah I think for for for everybody it's just a bit [ __ ] um
1:27:29
you um like games work won't be happy ton won't be happy um you know the the
1:27:35
viewers of the community uh won't necessarily be happy that much either um
1:27:40
it's been less of a a controversy than than because I gu he's been booted off
1:27:45
he's announced it the video was very measured and just like hey this happened this is maybe why I'll let you make your
1:27:51
own minds up I'm going to crack on as normal you're like great yeah um so it's not not so oh my god
1:27:59
um it perhaps could have been which I don't think it's a bad thing um but uh
1:28:05
yeah I I I just uh with with for the creators involved I guess it's going to
1:28:10
make people think yeah or force them to think like like how much control did DW
1:28:16
exert over people's channels and the thing is as well you know and and look if if if Games Workshop exit loads of
1:28:24
control over your channel and you signed that paperwork and they send you that plastic
1:28:31
then it it all depends what's in the contract yeah exactly right if you if you didn't do your job of sticking to
1:28:39
your contract then you know yeah I guess like a certain but if if the if the goal
1:28:45
posts are moving and it wasn't massively put down in your contract with regards moving the
1:28:51
goalpost and then I think there's yeah like yeah I think like you know it is unfair perhaps could be argued as I I
1:28:58
would argue that it it potentially would be just be like hey that
1:29:04
happened maybe we're not as much of a fan of that trying to avoid it in the future yeah perhaps but then also um
1:29:11
well we're in a a social media world where sort of these
1:29:16
platforms you you know people that are angry are engaged and they're typing and and and it that is um
1:29:24
more of a thing you know when when Neil's on and and and and everything um
1:29:29
you know that's probably our most dislike video um it was a contentious topic and it certainly educated us like
1:29:37
no we need to pay that a bit more juice anyway all that was going on we were getting loads of stick and um YouTube
1:29:44
says your audience is responding to this you should do more like it I'm like no
1:29:50
we should no should no I no thank you um I've lost enough hair already um and and
1:29:57
you know it it's an algorithm it doesn't necessarily know but it's like oh people
1:30:03
people are engaging with this they're hitting a a thumb down or a thumb up or
1:30:08
U they're typing a comment they're doing this like it's happening more than usual whatever you're doing keep doing go for
1:30:15
it and um even if the comments are saying that you you're the three of you are [ __ ]
1:30:22
then great it's a comment fair enough um and and and I think you know having C
1:30:29
John blanch now with a different company and you like you'd look at these two things and you'd be like oh wow this is
1:30:36
Creator Heaven yeah this is a the perfect sandwich yeah um how could you not and I don't think anybody in the
1:30:43
comments like I don't think it's particularly controversial like people go oh really nice well painted model I
1:30:50
like those paints yes um it's not like that much of a thing yeah um but see
1:30:57
it's hard isn't it because you think you know if you know I think I think if games this is the thing and I often
1:31:04
relate this back to many things with like bits that people make that add onto Games Workshop products and so on is the
1:31:09
fact you still ultimately buy The Games Workshop product don't you yeah even if you're going to cover your death cor of
1:31:15
cre minat is in John blanch PL paint youve still gone and bought the plastic yes and that's I think and is it
1:31:22
unrealistic to think you can own every bit of that and we only want GW Clippers
1:31:27
to cut them off the spru and GW brushes and GW paintting GW glue you're just
1:31:33
never going to get that if they do that they have to pay people yeah for for each video gamees Workshop are gone hang
1:31:40
on a minute you used John blanch paint on a 3D printed resin miniature that
1:31:46
looked a lot like a death core or cre on a horse then I could maybe go we're not
1:31:53
massively Keen on how close that miniature looked but to go and use your
1:31:58
John blanch paints on death cor cre you've still got to go and buy death cor cre yeah and you know what's more
1:32:04
important being upset about somebody else's paints or the fact that that
1:32:09
person then did a really good video showing you that your your your horsey your horsey trench man yes is is is
1:32:16
available to buy cuz I guess like if um you know YouTube I believe is trone's
1:32:22
full-time job so you know it's he needs the views he needs the clicks um you
1:32:27
have to yeah you really have to play the game yeah um so I I don't think what he did was um was too much of a
1:32:35
stretch like I can also on the other hand go oh it's not a great look for
1:32:40
Workshop yeah they're it's it's not a product that they'd make it still makes them look a bit silly um and then yeah
1:32:48
if you don't want the Clause of a corporation sort of controlling what you do then I think you you you do have to sort of part ways with it TR will still
1:32:54
be painting Warhammer yeah he will do I'm sure he will yeah um it would be interesting if they took him off but
1:33:01
then he still got sent the [Laughter] Miniatures that' be great but you know
1:33:07
good luck to shorian an carrying on without GW and you know yeah he'd be
1:33:12
fine yeah I like to think he would because uh you know I still really enjoy his work and but you know if you if you're not
1:33:20
playing the game you've got to play the game and if the game is Shi around you have to maybe decide about whether you
1:33:25
want to stay on still playing that game it's it's a bit you know that ended up sounding like a a very sitting on the
1:33:31
fence decision but it's a comment but it was never our we never decided with this we were going to blame anybody but we
1:33:37
just thought the subject of it was worth talking about really yeah I think so I I think g g a bit like the fact that the
1:33:46
product exists Yeah well yeah I'm just regurgitating everything that we've already talked about yeah um it's it's
1:33:51
all just a bit [ __ ] um and I I side with a Creator over a company that makes
1:33:58
millions of pounds profit every day back again yeah what do you
1:34:04
think don't care no okay yeah food please yeah until games workshops start
1:34:09
making doggy treats I don't give a monkeys yeah there we go uh and I believe that's everything we covered
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1:34:40
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1:34:47
so I think that's about it isn't it I think that is about it oh can just say as well sorry again no Ross he uh his
1:34:52
children on an inset day so uh yeah so they've got like a teacher working day without children if you uh don't use
1:34:58
that terminology wherever you are in the world but hopefully it'll be in soon and next week all being well we hopefully
1:35:05
all being well we'll be having the wonderful wonderful Tommy suon who may
1:35:11
be teaching one of us morons how to paint all being well yes yes so until
1:35:18
then woof woof woof that's how I would end until then woof woof woof there you go that's it done
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